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UPDATE: Malkin “do[es] not think it’s out of bounds” to make analogies comparing Obama to Hitler

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From Colorado Media Matters:

Conservative author and Fox News contributor Michelle Malkin, appearing as a guest on KHOW’s The Caplis & Silverman Show, asserted it is not “out of bounds” to analogize President Obama to Adolf Hitler. During a discussion about a photo taken in Denver of her posing with a person holding a sign showing a circled swastika as the “O” in Obama, she claimed without providing evidence that a progressive group conspired to capture the image and asserted it is “the M.O. of the left” to “play [ ] the Hitler card.” Neither host pointed out that numerous conservative radio hosts — including some on KHOW and sister station KOA — have used Hitler or Nazi references and allusions in criticizing Obama and other Democrats.

Above: No apology said to be due for ape cartoon

Cf. The Snotcho

 

Comments: 339

 
 
Bruce (GayPatriot)
 

LOL! You communists still haven’t been able to refute how I caught you in your LIES about being banned from my site! Thanks for teh hits! I’m awesome!

 
 

She’ll go ape at you monkeying arou… oh forget it.

 
 

With Caplis and Silverman, Malkin has finally found her intellectual equals.

 
 

From the second link:

SILVERMAN: Michelle, I accept you at your word. And even if you look at the picture, the swastika is not in your line of sight. So I believe you. And I believe that —

MALKIN: But, but —

SILVERMAN: I —

MALKIN: — but Craig, you’re missing the point. Why am I under interrogation here?

SILVERMAN: Well, you’re not under interrogation. I’ll tell you what —

MALKIN: Yes, but you didn’t call me to talk about the protests —

SILVERMAN: Well, first of all, you’re an interesting —

MALKIN: I love you, but look, this is buying into the Soros-funded agenda.

Poor Michelle Malkin. Everybody’s trying to keep her down.

 
 

Wazzat little rectangle in “play the Hitler Card?”

 
 

Here I am funding my agenda myself like a sucker. How can I get me some of that sweet Soros money?

 
 

So wait, comparing the creation of specific camps for the express purpose of unlawfully detaining anyone the government likes and torturing them, targeting leftists, queers, and an undesirable racial group as un-this country and deserving of elimination, while simultaneously removing as many constitutional protections as they can to “unfortunately fascistic and nazi-like tactics” : OMG LIEberals are over-sensitive irrational Bush haters

Comparing black president to nazis in first weeks for at worst proposing mild capitalist reform to undo the massive depression level damage of the last guy: The proper and right response. Anyone who says otherwise are over-sensitive poo-poo pants.

Well ok, then. Please continue.

 
 

I think it’s a pair of square brackets that fell in on themselves.

It would probably be ok if I went in and changed the quoted text to fix it…

 
 

They chopped off an “ing.” Here’s the original:

MALKIN: It’s playing the Hitler card. It’s using the Hitler card and Hitler analogies to attack people with which you disagree

Again, from that second link.

 
 

We’ve been watching the video to Lemon Jelly’s “The Shouty Track” over and over all day, and somehow it just feels right.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=shouty&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

 
 

The empty brackets are in the original at Colorado Media Matters.

 
 

Took another look at that picture. I’d have to guess that were it a set-up the guy holding the sign would have made it completely visible.

Michelle was more than happy to have her picture taken w/ him. She couldn’t not have seen it, unless he approached her from behind & she agreed to the photo.

Isn’t that guy Poopypundit who lives in her basement supposed to be watching her, since her disabled rage-o-holic hubby can’t leave the county or whatever?

 
 

Ah ha! Didn’t think it was the fault of anybody here.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

How soon before Malkin becomes totally unhinged and has a giant meltdown on-air?

 
 

What BBBB said. I’m a bit flabbergasted that she hasn’t tried to actually kill anyone yet. Has anyone checked on Jesse or the kids to make sure she hasn’t eaten them at some point?

 
 

How soon before Malkin becomes totally unhinged and has a giant meltdown on-air?

A couple of years ago, I think.

 
 

How soon before Malkin becomes totally unhinged and has a giant meltdown on-air?

That train has already left the station.

 
 

Fucking marsupials. I thought marsupials were supposed to be slow, damnit.

 
 

Not kangaroos, assuming they’re marsupials.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

A couple of years ago, I think.

That did count enough to have her kicked off Fox for a while (isn’t she back on there now?) but I think the intent of asking about a “giant meltdown” was referring to some kind of major ‘sode that involves convulsions, foaming, cutting-to-commercial and calling out the big men with the clean white coats. AFAIK she hasn’t actually done that on the air.

 
 

Michelle was more than happy to have her picture taken w/ him. She couldn’t not have seen it, unless he approached her from behind & she agreed to the photo.

She wrote a book defending Japanese Internment Camps and has repeatedly called for the mass imprisonment of illegal aliens. We could get pictures of her physically violating a swastika and it wouldn’t make her more of a Nazi.

I don’t even know how getting a photo-op with one of her fascist buddies makes her “more” right-wing authoritarian than she already is.

 
Teh M.O. of the Left
 

Yo Michelle. I can’t play that fucking card unless you fucking let go of it.

 
donchajustlovelibrulhypocrisy?
 

What’s funny is that, after eight years of using every Nazi allusion in the book to describe Bush, you kids would take offense at the same being cast at YOUR president.

Such thin skins…tsk tsk. WAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

 
 

How soon before Malkin becomes totally unhinged and has a giant meltdown on-air?

Well, getting all snappish and defensive with a friendly host who was basically tossing her salad is pretty close.

 
 

after eight years of using every Nazi allusion in the book to describe Bush

Um…sadly no. Provide an example. No, since you said “every…allusion in the book”, provide 5 examples.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Textbook BDS, eh?

Let’s ask the Pantload.

 
 

I don’t seem to recall any of the DFHs trying to build dirty bombs as a direct response to Bush being elected president, but that might be because they’re not delicate little flowers who cry themselves to bed at night over the idea of darkies holding positions of power.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Doughy’s closing thoughts, back in 2003:

George Bush can’t simply be someone I disagree with. No, his popularity must be an indication of mass hysteria, of Nuremberg-style devotion to evil.

So desperate are these people to live in interesting times and play the hero, that they are willing — eager — to topple every significant moral and historical category so they can role play as the Heroes who Would Not Stay Silent. That would be fine if these losers were playing some multisided dice game in their basements. But they’re not. There’s a war going on and these guys are acting like we’re the real enemy. That’s not just shameful and stupid, it’s unhelpful.

I’m looking forward to his 2009 update. I wonder if it’ll be Monday, or Tuesday?

 
 

I spent the better part of yesterday asking them to do just that, in vain

‘In vain’ mostly because it was a transparent attempt to throw the vapors over the Horrible Blacks and as such you were only answered by half-wits and loud-mouths, and even they had answers – you just didn’t like them.

‘Fascist’ has a concrete definition: the combination of a palingenetic narrative with a far-reaching spite for civil methods of obtaining or exercising power, usually in the form of a party brought into power by a right-wing establishment which feels threatened by contemporary politics. ‘Nazi’ is just a slur, although I have to say your brilliant arguments about the “innocent” Jews being the kith and kin of violent thugs who undermine German civilization and butcher good Aryans have earned you the name in spades, so to speak.

But ‘fascist’ means something specific, and it applies only very specifically. Bush was just a simple puppet; McCain was an opportunistic reactionary; Palin was a fascist (and Giuliani was as well, although much less nationally successful at it).

On the other hand, blacks – so take this with a grain of salt.

 
 

You have to understand that to a liberal, anyone who disagrees with them is a “Nazi” or a “racist.”

You left out the one that applies to you – bore.

 
 

They don’t have to define what they mean by those terms – I spent the better part of yesterday asking them to do just that, in vain

It’s only in vain because nobody cares enough to tangle with you. Any discussion with you lately turns into an interminable series of Scary Black Peoples for which you demand your opponent take responsibility.

 
 

You have to understand that to a liberal, anyone who disagrees with them is a “Nazi”

Wait. Jonah’s a liberal?

 
 

I’m looking forward to his 2009 update. I wonder if it’ll be Monday, or Tuesday?

I haven’t really looked into this, and haven’t had the time to do any research. If someone would like to email me some specifics, I’ll be happy to post them.

 
 

I can’t remember what it was, but I remeber a picture of her on Sadly, No!, where she looked absolutely possessed and about to go physically, bugshit, nuts. I don’t know what was going on that day, but I don’t know where you go for a meltdown after that

 
 

On the other other hand, fags. On the other other other hand, bookmark this, libs.

 
 

Hey, “The Authentic”, you are authentically defensive, which is pleasing to me. Continue to spend all your time defending yourself from people you affect to despise and not take seriously. This brings me great amusement.

Okay, I’m lying a little. You’re actually boring as fuck. But the defensiveness part is awesome.

 
 

Clearly, Malkin is the Jew of Liberal Fascism.

 
 

Hey, “The Authentic”, you are authentically defensive, which is pleasing to me. Continue to spend all your time defending yourself from people you affect to despise and not take seriously. This brings me great amusement.

Okay, I’m lying a little. You’re actually boring as fuck. But the defensiveness part is awesome.

You’d be defensive too if race-traitors had handed over the office of Supreme Authority Jesus to a hybrid of the Zimbabwe shilling, the ANC, and Nat Turner. And then the Great White Hope was also seized by a known black.

Blacks are everywhere, blacks, blacks!

 
 

BTW, I’m not saying Obama is hitler. I’m saying his followers are acting like the crowds did back then. It’s you guys that are scary.
Rightwingsparkle | 02.17.09 – 6:46 am | #

Comedy gold.

 
 

what with pointing out facts and all.

sorry. No facts there. Everything in your comment was an opinion, and interpretation or an allusion. No facts. You could bring some facts to back up your opinions, interpretations, and allusions, but – sadly, you haven’t.

 
 

Hitler:Poland::Bush:Iraq

Got it now, people?

 
 

I’m so glad that when Republicans lose the Presidency, they don’t resort to militia-style movements and threats of violence.

The way the libruls whine it’s almost like some crazed right wing radio shouted all through the Clinton years that black helicopters and socialism was coming and they wuzza gonna take our guns and we’d better stop ’em now, and then as if some right wing dude blew up a building or something.

 
 

Um…sadly no. Provide an example. No, since you said “every…allusion in the book”, provide 5 examples.

Dude? G?

I’ve heard Iraq compared to Poland.
I’ve heard Bush wiretapping compared to SS secret police eavesdropping.
I’ve heard the old Bush the First laundered money for the Nazis thing.
I’ve heard various iterations on the Nazi anti-Semetism compared to the Bush-era immigrant xenophobia.
And we could get more nuanced with the authoritarian aristocracy angle. I’m not going to look them all up because I’m lazy, but they’re out there.

There are no shortage of Bush-Hitler analogies. They have diagrams and everything.
http://raenergy.igc.org/bushadmin.gif

 
 

You have to understand that to a liberal, anyone who disagrees with them is a “Nazi” or a “racist.”

I’ll bite. On what basis are you making that assertion?

…as such you were only answered by half-wits and loud-mouths, and even they had answers – you just didn’t like them.

Wait? Gavin’s a half-wit? 😀

 
 

Wait? Gavin’s a half-wit? 😀

I spend most of my time loud-mouthing. Ain’t nothing wrong with it, nor half-witting nor -assing neither, but it’s not what you’d call intellectual.

And there’s a reason for that. There’s not really any intellectual response to someone suggesting that Bernie Goetz’s muggers brought being shot in New Orleans on themselves by kicking the settlers out of Rhodeeeeeejya. It’s asinine, and merits only an asinine response.

 
 

You could bring some facts to back up your opinions, interpretations, and allusions, but – sadly, you haven’t.

Actually, I suspect he couldn’t and that’s why he hasn’t.

 
 

Actually, I suspect he couldn’t and that’s why he hasn’t.

Well, he has plenty of facts, it’s just that they’re mainly there to support a racialized idea of self-defense, which only works if you assume that group X is a hive-mind unified in desire and thought towards group Y. Which, again, works great if what you’re after is Auschwitz, but…

 
 

BTW, I’m not saying Obama is hitler. I’m saying his followers are acting like the crowds did back then. It’s you guys that are scary.
Rightwingsparkle | 02.17.09 – 6:46 am | #

Says someone whose breath still smells like Bush.

 
 

Also, let it be said that the dullest asshole I’ve ever seen at S,N! could tie the CSS Negro-Monitor in knots.

 
 

It is a fact that blacks commit a far more violent crimes against whites than vice versa.

You keep saying things like this, but it’s begging the question. “Far more” as compared to what? The last time I checked any statistics on this, blacks were seven times likely to be victims of violent crimes than whites. So are you talking about?

 
 

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/cnbc_editor_the_people_are_rev.php

The fact is, liberal media bias. The commentators make more sense and use facts and logic more than the supposedly educated biased author.

The productive classes have had enough of the leeches and socislism.

 
 

You keep saying things like this, but it’s begging the question. “Far more” as compared to what? The last time I checked any statistics on this, blacks were seven times likely to be victims of violent crimes than whites. So are you talking about?

Using non-averaged numbers allows him to act like more white people being victimized by crime (which he uniformly associates with blacks to keep the numbers up) is a huge surprise instead of being an obvious result of whites comprising between 60 and 80% of the population.

 
 

Thanks Saint Jesus, that’s exactly what I was getting at, but you actually make the point better.

 
National Socialism for All!
 

You just voted the most liberal member of the Senate in as President and now he is nationalizing the unionized auto industry. Next week they will start the process of replacing the secret ballot for union votes with a system where the union puts a card in front of you and you sign it.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Says someone whose breath still smells like Bush.

Hey, I never said that!

Oh, and as far as my musing about when MM will become unhinged, I’m talking about “leaping over a desk at FOX and biting Geraldo’s nose off” unhinged.

I give it three months.

 
 

And it’s instructive to see him still carping about the vile dangers of the hated nigaro; he just can’t leave it a-fucking-lone. Which is why Palin wound up losing McCain the suburbs – any idiot can tell that screeching about the awful bwacks while your Madoffs run rampant is a transparent and patronizing attempt at distraction.

 
 

I think if Bayh had won the primary he’d have spent most of a year being the Most Liberal Member of the Senate. It’s funny how being a mix of over-eager and uncreative results in completely discrediting yourself over time.

Hell, I think if he had won Richardson would be the Most Liberal Member Of The Senate. You know, because of amnesty and all.

 
 

Hey, how many of those Bush=Hitler analogies came within the first few weeks of his presidency? Or for that matter, how many came before the Iraq invasion? Or Gitmo? Or Abu-Ghraib? Or habeus corpus?

Yeah, we liberals were all calling Bush Hitler in his first month in office. I remember that clearly.

 
A Nation of Cowards?
 

A Nation of Cowards?
By Matthew May
Of course, Eric Holder is correct.

When it comes to race we Americans are, for the most part, a nation of cowards. This cowardice was on full display during the most recent presidential election and continues today.

As they are in so many other areas of life, chief among our American cowards are the representatives of the national political media. During the presidential campaign, there was a maniacal effort on the part of the national media to find whites who would not vote for Barack Obama, never mind the reasoning for choosing so. Whites who were not for Mr. Obama were automatically racist in outlook and action, you see.

No major media network or national newspaper attempted to investigate the associations of Barack Obama with William Ayres and the Annenberg Project in Chicago. No major media network or national newspaper launched an investigation as to the release of Barack Obama’s grades in college, the lack of legal scholarship that somehow landed him as president of the Harvard Law Review, or any other aspect of his mysterious academic record. Think back to how resolute and determined that same media were in smoking out the academic record of George W. Bush to prove he is a dolt.

What is the difference? It is the difference between the incurious or deliberate ignoring of the seemingly endless and disturbing associations and utterances of Barack Obama and the deliberate attempts at smashing anything and everything associated with Sarah Palin. Because Palin is white, she was fair game. Because Barack Obama is sort of black, anything said against him or an honest inquiry into his past was automatically deemed racist – literally no questions asked.

While such cowardice is to be expected from the national media, there is, however, an element of cowardice among too many of us who blanch at the thought of fighting back when accused of racism or an unwillingness to “discuss race,” whatever that means. We are reluctant to inflame or we think that perhaps it is understandable that some black Americans believe that all white Americans are inherently racist in thought and action and, as such, those who prattle on about white racism are not checked and required to defend their statements.

Too many of us are unwilling to risk the censure of our self-proclaimed betters, or risk being labeled racists for fear of retribution in the workplace or the neighborhood. Too many of us are unwilling to say out loud that we truly live by the credo laid down so eloquently by Martin Luther King, Jr., on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in 1963 and demand that it be proved otherwise. Too many of us are reluctant to remind others that the “salient datum,” as William F. Buckley, Jr., observed in Tennessee shortly after Dr. King was murdered, was not that the United States bred the murderer but that “we bred the most widely shared and the most intensely felt grief…as if felt over the loss of one’s own sons.”

Too many of us are unwilling to respond to real racism perpetrated by the likes of Eric Holder, Barack Obama, and Jeremiah Wright by repudiating their bigotry in loud, bold language. Instead we slink to diversity awareness programs at work and school and pretend they are useful. We yield to the propaganda our children – all of our children – are fed in government schools at the expense of the canons of Western civilization without standing up to demand better of our educators. When reluctant to stand up for our children against the onslaught of illiberal education, it is difficult to imagine how much more cowardly we could be.

Yes, there are rabid racists about in the land. They come in all shades. But they are few in relative number. Yet too many of us have cowered in the face of these racial bullies. No more. Americans of good faith, Americans who live our lives with love in our hearts, charity in our actions, and malice toward only those who seek to destroy us must stand up for ourselves and resist these baseless charges and worthless observations. It is obvious that our acts alone do not satisfy the race-warmongers among us, and it behooves us to conclude that they never will.

We, Americans of goodwill, must push back and declare that the sentiments of people like the attorney general are invalid, untrue, and unacceptable. We must stand up and demand that our president state clearly if he endorses the remarks of the attorney general who, it must be remembered, serves at the pleasure of the president. Anything else and we truly are cowards. Yet we know in our hearts that we are not. Let us prove it once and for all, no matter what anyone might say.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Hey, would Malkin scream about librul racism or hypocrisy if someone were to… oh, photoshop her face on the cartoon chimp?

Inquiring bastards want to know!

 
 

“I’ve heard Iraq compared to Poland.”

Wiemar Germany was in desperate need of oil

“I’ve heard Bush wiretapping compared to SS secret police eavesdropping.”

Wiretapping does equal eavesdropping so that’s accurate.

“I’ve heard the old Bush the First laundered money for the Nazis thing.”

Prescot Bush attempted a coup d’état in the US and backed the Nazi regime.

“I’ve heard various iterations on the Nazi anti-Semetism compared to the Bush-era immigrant xenophobia.”

Yeah, Extreme Nationalism is a lot like anti-immigrant xenophobia.

“There are no shortage of Bush-Hitler analogies.”

If something truly is like some other thing then pointing it out is really a service so that one can avoid a catastrophe. You’re welcome.

 
Smiling Mortician
 

Shorter Jacob Singer: How many of those Bush=Hitler analogies came without solid supporting evidence?

Also, Zifnab: at least one of your analogies isn’t an analogy. See if you can find it.

 
 

malice toward only those who seek to destroy us

That would be just great if you didn’t think that every single non-white non-Xian were out to destroy you.

 
 

Hey, would Malkin scream about librul racism or hypocrisy if someone were to… oh, photoshop her face on the cartoon chimp?

That’s disgusting and perverse. You could have guilt-free sex with a chimp.

 
Smiling Mortician
 

Hm. noen is apparently not as lazy as I am. And is just slightly quicker at the keyboard as well.

 
 

White racists in an overwhelmingly white country? Too few to worry about, marginalized, fringe, etc..

Black racists in an overwhelmingly white country? ZOMG they’re tearing our country apart and are comin’ to get our wimmin and put us re-education camps!!!!!!one11 etc..

 
 

When it comes to race we Americans are, for the most part, a nation of cowards.

yeah, like those wimpy Unitarians who charged a gun-wielding madman, while themselves unarmed; one of them even sacrificing himself to preserve the lives of his fellows.

Shit what a tool. Tonguejack my shitbox, sir.

 
 

Some moran said:
“It is a fact that blacks commit a far more violent crimes against whites than vice versa.”

And Handy replied:
” …The last time I checked any statistics on this, blacks were seven times likely to be victims of violent crimes than whites”

If you correlate to class then most violence is among the poor, who are mostly black. Most violence is black on black violence because if you’re a violent asshole and black most of the people around you are going to be black too.

Whites also commit a lot of crime but it does tend to be white collar crime. If you have power and position it’s much safer to embezzle a million or set up a boiler room and cheat the elderly out of their life saves. If you are poor and black you don’t have access to those kinds or resources and it is easier to rob a liqueur store.

 
 

OK, I screwed up and ignored the ‘race’ part of that stupid, stupid post.

But, here’s the thing; I was raised in a lily-white suburb in the Midwest. i have al the weird and disgusting racial attitudes you would expect from that background. But I now live in an urban environment, and live and work with people of a wide variety of racial backgrounds. I have worked in areas of the city that make other white folks gasp in horror, wondering how I survived.

I freely admit to plenty of racial baggage; but it is less than it used to be and every day, as I work with my friends and neighbors, it gets reduced, little by little.

And it seems to me that this scares the hell out of people who like to use those fears to control others…

 
 

erm… should be: “cheat the elderly out of their life savings”

 
A Nation of Cowards?
 

Blacks commit more white collar crime per capita, too!

 
 

yeah, Bernie Madoff was victimized by a cab driver!!

 
 

people unwilling to be victims

By which of course you mean black people standing up to their oppressors, right?

 
 

“Yes, I realize this is shocking narrative for you liberals to read. “Racist nazi” you are shrieking at me. And yet all I am doing is recounting the tales of people unwilling to be victims, unwilling to star in your narrative of “hmm, it’s all caused by poverty and white racism.””

No, you are constructing your narrative. These things don’t exist out there, you have to create them. There is an important part of the story that you are either unaware of or are leaving out in order to further your racist narrative.

 
 

to rob a liqueur store

Man, what decadent yuppified neighborhood do you live in? And is there more money in robbing a liqueur store than a plain old beer-selling liquor store?

 
 

“Again we have this correlation of “white person = someone with power, influence, and money.” What on Earth does any of this have to do with the average white person, who (if you don’t know, now you know) doesn’t have any of these things?”

It’s called sampling bias on your part. The average white person is financially much better off than the average person of color.

 
 

Why don’t you just drop the pretense of politics and admit that you think blacks are inferior to whites and be done with it? Have the courage of your (misplaced) convictions, at least. Stop trying to dress it up as “liberals are using subtle patriarchal racism to some imagined nefarious end”. You’re not fooling anyone.

 
 

Aimed at Authentic, obviously.

 
 

M. Bouffant – Sorry, I did kind of just throw the liqueur store analogy in there. I was typing fast. What I mean is that if you are a poor person, white or black, you don’t have the means to embezzle or set up a ponzi scheme and con people out of 50 billion. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity.

 
 

university placement and hiring

The Authentic’s gripe is here. Sadly, No! is a surrogate.

 
 

What on Earth does any of this have to do with the average white person, who (if you don’t know, now you know) doesn’t have any of these things?

What on earth do your statistical rants have to do w/ the average black person, who isn’t committing crimes against anyone?

The point/fact is, white-collar criminals do much more harm to America & Americans than street criminals do. Why isn’t your head about to explode in anger about this?

 
 

Man, what decadent yuppified neighborhood do you live in? And is there more money in robbing a liqueur store than a plain old beer-selling liquor store?

Hand over the De Kuyper Crème de Café or I’ll blow your fooking head off.

 
A Nation of Cowards?
 

“The point/fact is, white-collar criminals do much more harm to America & Americans than street criminals do.”

Blacks also commit more white collar crime than whites, per capita.

 
 

“Bernie Goetz shooting the predicate felons”

The subjunctive felons challenge you to a rumble.

 
 

Blacks also commit more white collar crime than whites, per capita.

Funny how you continue to post that claim, without linking to any facts, statistics, evidence, etc.

 
 

Shorter Zifnab: “Liberals call the dude who led Nazi Germany ‘Hitler’ all the time, so it’s totally ok to call Obama ‘Hitler’.”

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Boring troll is boring… let’s get back to Malkin!

That’s disgusting and perverse. You could have guilt-free sex with a chimp.

Too bad the Liberal Confessional is a thing of the past- I’ve been having these… uh, daydreams about Megan McArdle.

 
 

The Russian Mafia is all black, true fact!

 
 

Funny how you continue to post that claim, without linking to any facts, statistics, evidence, etc.

It’s because insinuating it allows him to avoid the statistic inevitably being ferreted out and discredited (as it does every time he cites one specifically).

And ‘blacks are more likely to commit black collar crime per capita’ is a meaningless statement – white-collar crimes involve a statistically insignificant number of people, and the actors involved are much less individually significant than the amounts. Black crime all together probably amounts to less than Madoff personally stole from his victims, and he’s only the disgusting face of a largely impersonal phenomenon. Of course, what can you say about someone who supported an effort to essentially rob him of his retirement money and yet trembles in fear that someone the same color as a passing teenager might steal whatever he has in his wallet?

 
 

Too bad the Liberal Confessional is a thing of the past- I’ve been having these… uh, daydreams about Megan McArdle.

Only natural. Have you tried imagining Orlando Bloom as a woman? Probably an effective substitute.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

The Russian Mafia is all black, true fact!

Don’t scoff, once a whole bunch of Black Russians snuck up on me and gave me a whalloping… my head was sore for days!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Have you tried imagining Orlando Bloom as a woman?

Whoa! WHOA! ORLANDO BLOOM’S NOT A WOMAN???!!!

There go my hawt elf chix fantasies.

 
Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale
 

The Russian Mafia is all black, true fact!

Get moose and squirrel, yo.

 
 

Fun fact: elephants have an extremely large hippocampus compared to other animals; this has been linked to the animals displaying an extreme breadth and depth of emotional response. They’re known to display altruistic behavior towards not just relatives but elephants they know to be unrelated strangers, and even non-elephants. They mourn their dead by gentle touching, silent vigil, and branch burial at the place of death (sometimes going to great trouble to remove portable bones, such as the scapula and long bones, to a known site); they have been seen to do this for human corpses as well. They go to a great deal of trouble to feed and physically support their wounded, and often do the same for wounded humans — even after attacking them for threatening the herd.

 
 

Yes, there are rabid racists about in the land. They come in all shades. But they are few in relative number

B-b-b-but, The Inauthentic told me that all black people were racists! I don’t know who to believe now.

 
 

B-b-b-but, The Inauthentic told me that all black people were racists! I don’t know who to believe now.

Look, it’s simple. Racism is dead, and also only blacks are racist, and also it’s just Sharpton and King and Keyes and other race-pimps stirring up trouble, and also it’s in their black, black genes to hate Whitey.

Also, blacks stayed home on 9/11. Conspiracy??? You decide.

 
 

Where does Malkin end and Coulter begin? I’ve never seen them in the same place at the same time so I wonder if the actress that plays them both must get confused at times and thus have to swing her head around to see what colour her wig is so as to stay in character.
It can’t be easy to remember what accent to use so it is lucky that the dialog is pretty much identical and nonsensical. You know you just got some standard spewl and you just chop it up in different ways.

 
 

Don’t scoff, once a whole bunch of Black Russians snuck up on me and gave me a whalloping… my head was sore for days!

Win!

 
 

Too bad the Liberal Confessional is a thing of the past- I’ve been having these… uh, daydreams about Megan McArdle.

I will admit to having had improper thoughts about Atlas Juggs. I accept whatever punishment that is deemed necessary for this admission.

 
 

Why isn’t your head about to explode in anger about this?

Because conservatives are all about speaking truth to the powerless. White collar criminals are the authoritarian figures they most admire.

 
 

“Don’t scoff, once a whole bunch of Black Russians snuck up on me and gave me a whalloping…”

Then they went and robbed a liqueur store of all it’s Kahlua, broke into my home and peed on my rug. That rug really tied the room together man.

Fuckin’ nihilists.

 
 

I will admit to having had improper thoughts about Atlas Juggs.

What does it for you? Consider this a legitimate question – I’ve heard people describe both her and Coulter as sexy, and outside of the fact that they both obviously have breasts I’ve always found them to be horrid hatchet-faced boner-killers, the way I imagine Joe Pesci would be for people who go for guys. Only even worse – kind of like Joe Pesci’s face, George Cameron’s ass, and Geert Wilders’s personality. And I don’t mean young Pesci, either.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Man, I would love it if Obama went on national television and said,

“I wish to assure white Americans that I will treat them with the same courtesy they have traditionally shown to black people, both in the U.S. and abroad.”

 
 

Saint Jesus, I ‘m betting it’s the crazy.

Many guys believe that crazy is conducive to mind-blowing sex.

 
 

Well, S.J., Atlas Juggs reminds me of the mother of a friend I had while growing up in Brooklyn who I had a serious crush on – she was a real yenta, for sure, but I had this weird revulsion/fascination with her which made my pre-pubescent hormones get all excited somehow. I know, TMI, but there you go.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Many guys believe that crazy is conducive to mind-blowing sex.

Yeah, but I was cured of that when the young lady almost took my head off with a “janitor sized” keychain- and I mean the keychain was the size of a janitor, not a janitor’s keychain.

 
 

No, the crazy doesn’t do it for me. And whenever I think that Juggs is at all attractive I just read one of her idiotic screeds and I am disabused of the notion toot sweet.

 
 

commie atheist said,

February 21, 2009 at 3:41

Too bad the Liberal Confessional is a thing of the past- I’ve been having these… uh, daydreams about Megan McArdle.

I will admit to having had improper thoughts about Atlas Juggs. I accept whatever punishment that is deemed necessary for this admission

You are sentenced to reading “Atlas Shrugged” for the rest of your life (or until cured). You will need to make regular speeches about “Atlas Shrugged”, and also explain to the enthralled crowds how this book has improved your life.

Eventually, you will be cured. But this will not be official until an entire seminar full of earnest marks who have enrolled in “Get Rich Quick In Real Estate With No Money Down” have voted you off the island.

 
 

No, the crazy doesn’t do it for me. And whenever I think that Juggs is at all attractive I just read one of her idiotic screeds and I am disabused of the notion toot sweet.

I dunno, there’s something at least vaguely charming about the dogged misgnosis in the anti-jihadis’ jargon – ‘dhimmitude’ is just the most famous and fatuous example, but a thing where they’ve been exaggerating Wilders’s either deliberate or incidental mistranslation of the Arabic word for ‘peace’ as ‘cease-fire’ steadily is rather amusing. Sad clown kind of amusing, but still amusing.

Lex could probably share Greatest Hits in that department and also in the horrid crazy department. It all just melts together for me, but there must be a thought process at work, however twisted.

 
 

Thank you sir, may I have another?

 
 

an obvious result of whites comprising between 60 and 80% of the population.

Yah maybe. Maybe it’s ‘cuz dat’s where da money is. Dem niggers aint got shit, y’know?

 
 

I’ve heard people describe both her and Coulter as sexy

Pam? When she is cleaned up, she’s not hard on the eyes. There may also be some dominance tropes playing out in my psyche there to. My occasional mental Pamela mini-porn is rough.

Coulter I don’t get at all. I’m trying to think of a way to make her sexy and can’t.

McMegan is too tall. I’m six foot, but if a woman is approaching my height the mechanics of sex get wierd. If I’ve got your legs over my shoulders and your heels are touching the middle of my back it’s distracting and feels strange. Maybe that’s just me.

Probably waaaay too much info, and I’m zonked out out on five flavors of cold medicine but I guess the worst I could do is offend sadly, no! and that’s a tour de force anyway.

 
 

You chauvinist pigs won’t get me to mention which wingette might get me going.

(No, not the one I occasionally take down a few pegs at another site.)

 
 

Many guys believe that crazy is conducive to mind-blowing sex.

That crossed my mind.

 
 

Many guys believe that crazy is conducive to mind-blowing sex.

I’m having trouble with cause and effect here, if you know what I mean.

BYWP
BYWP
BYWP

 
 


M. Bouffant said,

February 21, 2009 at 4:18

You chauvinist pigs won’t get me to mention which wingette might get me going.

(No, not the one I occasionally take down a few pegs at another site.)

I have psychotic powers. It’s Debbie Schlüssel, isn’t it!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

McMegan is too tall.

Don’t think of it as “climbing a mountain”, think of it as “traversing a plain”.

 
 

You have no idea what height difficulties are. I’m somewhere between 6’4″ and 6’6″, and one of my exes was 4’11”.

McMegan ain’t got shit on that unless Verne Troyer has been handing out Objectivist pity-fuckin’ lately.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

You have no idea what height difficulties are. I’m somewhere between 6?4? and 6?6?, and one of my exes was 4?11?.

In other words, you were nuts over the girl.

 
 

Whoa! WHOA! ORLANDO BLOOM’S NOT A WOMAN???!!!
I am disillusioned and will never again believe what IVirginia Woolf tells me.

In other words, you were nuts over the girl.
Actual conversation transcribed from the sort of low-life people I hang out with:
LLP#1: I’m sorry… I do’t know what came over me.
LLP#2: Don’t worry, it’ll wash off.

 
 

Hey, Smut, congrats on the Linebarger reference (Alpha-Ralpha Blvd.) on a recently previous thread.

No, not Debbie S. I hadn’t even thought of her, & intend to stop thinking of her now!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

It’s funny, I was going to post a comment about how certain wingnettes make me feel like a Tex Avery Wolf, but the real takeaway lesson is that the two wolves in the cartoon I had in mind perfectly encapsulate the two wings of teh kunsurvutiv movement… minus the typical conservative’s hypocrisy, of course.

 
 

Have you tried imagining Orlando Bloom as a woman?
Eeeww. Icky icky!

 
 

Hey, Smut, congrats on the Linebarger reference (Alpha-Ralpha Blvd.) on a recently previous thread.

Ahem. That is all.

 
 

Who’s the next to fist
This inane Objectivist?

 
 

The reference was PeeJ’s; I merely recognised it.

The empty brackets are in the vault copy at Colorado Media Matters.
Fecksed.

I admire MM’s line of self-exculpatory argument and intend to use it myself, next time I am caught in any kind of shameful behaviour.

Frau Doktorin Penny: What time did you get home last night, you pissed wally?
Me: It is the M.O. of the S.O. to play the pissed wally card.

 
 

And to PeeJ who made reference numero uno. (Didn’t remember that.)

 
 

Smut, don’t complain. It’s when the Fraus wait for your return that you’re in real trouble.

 
 

These ape cartoons are entirely inoffensive of course, but they’d be still less offensive if they butted up against the left-hand margin instead of centered where they wind up under the right-side marginalia.

 
 

Peforming the obligatory googlation of “pissed wally card” leads to nothing much. There was this which I have no idea what to make of.

BYWP

update as WP was fucking me over: http://www.wallywine.com offers gift cards.

 
 

The Authentic’s gripe is here. Sadly, No! is a surrogate.

Precisely, J—.

And please, don’t get him started on the iniquities of Miss Black Teen USA.

 
 

under the right-side marginalia.

Decent people provide undercovers for their marginalia. Also, the “offensive” bits are always worn left by gentlemen.

 
 

Frau Doktorin Penny: What time did you get home last night, you pissed wally?
Me: It is the M.O. of the S.O. to play the pissed wally card.

You just better hope Frau Doktorin Penny never plays the angry Emu card.
~

 
 

I know the thread isn’t over yet but I am announcing the winners because no one has a chance of beating them:

Big Bad Bald Bastard wins the gold for:

Don’t scoff, once a whole bunch of Black Russians snuck up on me and gave me a whalloping… my head was sore for days!

The silver goes to Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale for:

Get moose and squirrel, yo.

Congratulations. Your prizes are being kept cool in Michele Malkin’s refrigerator. Feel free to drop by her house any time to pick them up.

 
 

Your prizes are being kept cool in Michele Malkin’s refrigerator.

I’m only interested in the composition of her counter-tops.

 
 

You kids and your cute euphemisms.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Your prizes are being kept cool in Michele Malkin’s refrigerator.

Oh boy, I hope it’s lumpia!

Ugh, I just got an email from a rightard I used to work with (haven’t spoken to him in over two years-cue TMBG), this “White Victimization Under Obama” meme is abysmally stupid.

 
 

Many guys believe that crazy is conducive to mind-blowing sex.

“Put this on,” she panted. “Put this on and take me!”
“What is it?” he said as he took the piece of cardboard with an elastic band attached. There were two holes cut in it, and even in the dim light of the bedroom there was an unsettling familiarity about the object.
“A … a George Bush face mask,” she moaned.

 
 

Hey, y’all want to hear something about the show my band’s playing tomorrow night that I, personally, find somewhat ironically humorous? It’s even almost on-topic, give the discussions of American racism that’s been on folks’ mind lately? It might be not funny at all and I’m just stoned, so I don’t want to bother anyone.

 
 

I’m only interested in the composition of her counter-tops.

If she has stainless steel sinks, I am interested.

 
 

“A … a George Bush face mask,” she moaned.

Back in 2003 or so, a seriously lefty-feminist-tree-hugging-break-Starbucks-windows friend of mine confided in me she had a serious lust for Dick Cheney. Said he was just so evil it went completely went through her to the other side, from loathing to desire. I told her I lived by the creed “It takes all kinds to make a world” but she’d effectively assured I’d never have sex with her which, admittedly, didn’t really bother anyone involved.

 
 

Decent people provide undercovers for their marginalia.
There seem to be very few cases of a single marginalium. Clearly it is hard to stop at just one.

 
 

Also, the “offensive” bits are always worn left by gentlemen.

Tailors advise that some 90% “dress to the right.” I wonder if it has to do w/ handedness.

 
 

Humorous? Heh, indeed.

Michelle “Marble Countertops” Malkin earnestly pulling a reverse-Godwin with a half-twist while squatting Gollumlike in the tall shadow of her internment-camp-love = Irony Jackpot!

Erm, hokay, I can see having some wood for the Jon lady – even minus the apostrophe (although I strongly suspect you may as well just go shove your junk into a copy of Photoshop on that one) … but Coulter? Malkin? McArdle? EW EW EW. Instant tapioca-dick alert!

As for Debbie Anschlussel, I’m just way too much of a sensitive new-age guy to make any jovial references to manning the harpoons … so I won’t.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Matt, you came this close to destroying the internet…

jim, I always thought that Marie Jon was cooked up by ILM, kinda like Jar Jar Binks, but slightly sexxayer.

 
 

Further research reveals that it is possible to have a single apocryphum, even though they are usually encountered in groups of two or more, like busses.

 
 

Fine. But what’s the point in throwing someone under the apocryphum?

 
 

Liberals threw George Orwell under the apocryphum!

 
 

Single apocryphumes are playing the field, and such as.

 
 

Your prizes are being kept cool in Michele Malkin’s refrigerator.

I’m afraid you’re going to have to show your work on this, Bouffant.

Most men are right-handed. Reaching into the fly toward the left is easier for right-handed men (and most flies are designed that way.) Thus most men dress to the left.

My grandfather was a tailor. A terrible, terrible tailor — but he knew the rules even if he couldn’t execute the moves.

 
 

Of course I meant to quote (and was responsing to) this:

Tailors advise that some 90% “dress to the right.” I wonder if it has to do w/ handedness.

Sorry, it was margarita night in Hell’s Kitchen.

 
George Lucas's Id
 

…kinda like Jar Jar Binks, but slightly sexxayer.

There is nothing sexier than Jar Jar. Mesa think me love him long time.

 
 

I apologize in advance for the length, but I feel proper context is important and, as I said, I’m stoned. The inner Faulkner comes out when I’m high, and the gabby bastard won’t shut up. So here’s your invitation to just scroll on by if that’s how you wish to spend your evening.

Okay, so for the past year, I’ve been playing bass in a cover band that concentrates on classic country music. We play a lot of Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, a lot of songs Gram Parsons covered (this being Georgia and all) and a lot of late ’70s/early ’80s cheeseball country tunes, which means we do a lot of Conway Twitty. It’s me, my old drummer, a singer/rhythm guitar player and a pair of multi-instrumentalists who alternate keys and guitar, one in his mid ’30s and the other a senior at UGA.

We formed specifically to make money, particularly playing fraternities. This sort of country is popular with both the greek kids and the townie hipsters, though some shows we do our David Allen Coe and Hank Williams Jr. and some shows we don’t, as you can well imagine. Playing frat parties is sorta terrifying – a room full of the flower of yuppie Georgia manhood drunk as friggin’ monkeys – but they pay well (eight bills last show) and they fucking love us. Part of it’s because, well, we’re good and, but a lot of it is there is just no crowd more appreciative of a band kickin’ out familiar jams than a bunch of frat boys drink cheap beer. And lord, it’s embarrassing the cheap beer they drink, Natty Light and MGD Light and whatnot. Not even PBR.

Now, one of the reasons it’s such a “here be dragons” thing for us to play frat parties is we’re, one, all rapidly approaching middle age and, two, almost stereotypical tree-huggin’, peace-lovin’, multi-culturalin’, religion-scoffin’, gay-friendly, Obama-lovin’, NPR-listenin’ liberals. Well, almost. The younger instrumentalist is the only one not in his mid ’30s and the older instrumentalists has that “vaguely liberal but really can’t be bothered thinking about anything but how awesome his next solo is going to be and is there anymore booze” apolitical bent I’ve seen in so many musicians.

Really, though, it’s amusing. The band started when the drummer and lead singer met at the county Democrats meeting, and the younger multi-instrumentalist is a big man in the state College Democrats and was an alternate delegate to this last Democratic Convention. One guy’s wife kept her last name and another’s is black, and they both kick serious ass. And then there’s me, and the only reason I ain’t burnin’ shit in the street and gutting capitalists is I’m too much of a “violence solves nothing” weenie, and y’all know what kind of sandy butthole I get when there’s a whiff of bigotry in the air, and I’ve dated a number of non-white women, probably more than I have women who were the same skin tone as me.

We call ourselves the most politically correct country band in the world, and I’ll almost guarantee you we’re one of the few country acts that regularly has African-American women in its audience. We won’t do songs that glorify rednecks or are too far anti-feminism, which is fucking tougher than you might think, sad to say.

Alright, I said all that and I apologize again for rattling on, but here’s the gist. We’re playing a sorority’s “Father/Daughter” event. They’re paying us $500, and being vaguely uneasy about the implications of a “father/daughter” event in sort of a Purity Ball way ’cause I read Pandagon regularly, I decided to do a little googling on the sorority.

Now, no names and I want everyone to know that I’m optimistic about human nature and do think we can change, both as individuals and as a species. I also think greek kids are no more irritating and thick-headed than non-greeks and, as likely as not, my experience with sorority girls is no less pleasant than regular college kids. At the very worst, you know they don’t know no better, being dumbass white kids from suburban Georgia. You just try to imagine.

Back in 2001, the sorority we’re playing for was suspended by the college for discriminating against non-white pledges, instances of racial insensitivity around non-white sisters, and ostracizing white sisters who dated black guys. I looked on their website for info on the “father/daughter” thing – which I still haven’t found – and there’s not a non-white girl in the whole thing.

Bwah. Hah. Hah. Again, maybe I’m just stoned -and I’ve been sick for the past two weeks, just now getting over, so I am stoned – but that fucking cracked me up.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Goodnight you sexy animals! I’d stick around, but I have to go home and sleep. I have to get up early tomorrow for a volunteering gig.

It’s really too bad, because I believe that Bruce (GP) will stumble home drunk in about five hours (when is last call in LA?) and start posting here in a desparate bid for attention because he couldn’t find himself a “bear” who resembles DP.

 
 

There is nothing sexier than Jar Jar.
Then why is he not a right-wing author & columnist?

 
 

Matt, you came this close to destroying the internet…

But I hadn’t even done anything yet. How’d you know?

 
 

Thanks for the story Matt. Good luck with sorority girls and so forth.

 
 

I ain’t you showing you nuthin’, as all my research has been done on me personally, & I’m no Pat Boone.

 
 

Matt types terribly goddamn well for a baked mofo, doanie?

Also, I have no idea what “classic country” could be but any group that covers David Allen Coe can’t be all bad.

 
 

Last call in the whole friggin state of Cali is 0200. But you can start again at 0600. Legally. Not that many bars open then.

 
 

Cerberus pretty much nailed it early on here.

So wait, comparing the creation of specific camps for the express purpose of unlawfully detaining anyone the government likes and torturing them, targeting leftists, queers, and an undesirable racial group as un-this country and deserving of elimination, while simultaneously removing as many constitutional protections as they can to “unfortunately fascistic and nazi-like tactics” : OMG LIEberals are over-sensitive irrational Bush haters

Comparing black president to nazis in first weeks for at worst proposing mild capitalist reform to undo the massive depression level damage of the last guy: The proper and right response. Anyone who says otherwise are over-sensitive poo-poo pants.

Well ok, then. Please continue.

 
 

Matt, don’t worry, I think “Purity Balls” (!??!!) are pretty much reserved for high schoolers. Once they’re away from home, all bets are off.

“Classic country” is when it was still good, before Nashville became Hollywood East, & the music became brain-dead pop w/ just a bit more nasality & twang, & maybe a token steel solo once in a while.

 
 

Don’t get me wrong – you caint but love Bob Wills! (or isn’t that country?)

Also, I have a small problem. While the Ho and I were having a smoke outside (cause you can’t smoke in Portland except outside) with our martinis, he pointed out that it was 9:00. Which made me realize it was tomorrow on the east coast. So the problem is, does that mean it’s the day after tomorrow in the antipodes? It’s always tomorrow there isn’t it? Do I need a time cube to get this right?

 
 

RB,

The very best thing about playing greek functions is that they always pay you first thing before you play, because everyone expects to be too blasted by the end of the evening to make that difficult financial transaction. That’s so awesome most people just don’t understand.

 
 

I always found the greeks to be especially……greek after the beer was mostly gone.

 
 

Bob Wills is “Western Swing,” technically. Bob put a little of that urban jazzbo stuff in, which is part of why the Texas Playboys are so fine.

PeeJ, do you fucking have to smoke terbaccy outside in Portland? I hope & assume that only applies to apt. dwellers. I mean, you can still smoke in your house if you & the bank own it, right?

Are there laws applying to the smoking of better stuff inside the landlord’s digs as well?

And Matt, I am led to understand that hoors always insist on getting paid first.

Seriously, more power to ya for playing music you like (even if it isn’t your originals or whatever) & getting paid (well) for it.

 
 

We call ourselves the most politically correct country band in the world, and I’ll almost guarantee you we’re one of the few country acts that regularly has African-American women in its audience. We won’t do songs that glorify rednecks or are too far anti-feminism, which is fucking tougher than you might think, sad to say.

My understanding has always been that, while modern country is full of assholes and getting Sam Wurzelbacher to cut a record makes a depressing sort of sense, it was always hobo and driver music; there’s money in promoting the Foxworthy horseshit right now, but it hasn’t always been that way and it probably won’t stay that way forever.

And as for the sorority – I think this might be partially a generation gap thing. The Win Friends Influence People set were the ones who spent the 90s trying to turn back the clock on integration, but the average pledge right now is just someone for whom paying money to make friends makes sense. But still, frickin’ father/daughter events? Yow.

 
 

So the problem is, does that mean it’s the day after tomorrow in the antipodes?

In the figurative antipodes, they are six hours behind but a day ahead. The real antipodes are in the Indian Ocean.

 
 

When the Ho informed his coworkers we were moving to Portland, one woman said “No they aren’t. You can’t smoke in Portland.”

We chose our building for may reasons including the fantabulous view and also because we could afford it and it’s pet friendly. Many places have anti-smoking covenants – doan matter who owns the place, jou caint smoke dere nohow.

The more they marginalize us drug addicts and make it an anti-social thang, the more I smoke. Go figure.

 
 

“many” reasons. Even in an unbaked state, I can’t type as well as Mattt.

 
 

Mr. Soros, if you’re reading this, and there really is a conspiracy . . . I want in!

 
 

I’m trying to remember what and where my pictures page is so I can show y’all but pphtphpt. This web thing has gone beyond me.

hokay – I found my photos but apparetnly all that’s there is a bunch of shots from one of our motorcycle trips – no fantabulous city views. Sorry.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/weenie98/

But trust me, the view is infuckingcredible!

Also, I aint baked but I’ve had three martinis now….. maybe four…

 
 

Well, they still can’t keep you from smoking in your own, not an apt., single family dwelling, can they?

I’m staying in a no-smoking motel & it’s cut my puffing considerably.

 
 

I’ve really never seen the point of tobacco, but that’s partially because (a) I have asthma and a family history of emphysema and addiction and (b) I have better drugs anyway. But really, considering you live in Portland, don’t you, too?

You live in the pot and casual restaurant capital of the world and you smoke tobacco. Madness, sez I.

 
 

Uh-oh, gay biker dudes. I’m getting nervous. (Joke.)

After checking the pix out, I am reminded of how I miss the Pac NW though.

 
 

I just got through talking with a friend of mine who’s in the college with these girls. She says they’re known as a fairly well-to-do bunch and some say pretty snobby. I’m forseeing a bunch of middle-age, solidly middle-class guys like my uncle that keeps asking me when I’m gonna make something of myself and quit being a bum.

And Peej, I’ve been writing stoned for years. You get used to it after a while.

 
 

Ummmm, smoking good. The true gateway drug. And it doesn’t matter if you have a family history or not, you will be addicted.

Nothing like a good smoke after one of those casual restaurant meals. On the street. Where every welfare-stealing low-life crazy person will hit you up for a butt.

 
 

You just have to be extra-careful editing when you’re letting the reefer help your flow.

 
 

Well, they still can’t keep you from smoking in your own, not an apt., single family dwelling, can they?
Yes, they can. Well, they can try.

Uh-oh, gay biker dudes.
Look at http://gsrorca.blogspot.com/ if you want to get really nervous. Buncha crotch-rocket riding boa-wearing knee draggers, we are. C’mon, Gay sportbike riders? How fucking ridiculous is that?

And Peej, I’ve been writing stoned for years. You get used to it after a while.
I’ve only been trashed once in my life. That was from 1975 until now.

 
 

PS to Saint Jeebus: Yeah, but they’re all so “ooohh oooh how can you do that?!?!?” when all my chef friends and I are standing around outside having a smoke.

Damn the dining is good here. The only time in the last 30 or so years that we’re as likely to eat out as dine at home.

Alas, being old and tired (but not as tired as some people we know (and note that I am not naming GPW here) really good drugs would proably kill me at this point. I’m, left to my old friend gin. And tabac. And sometimes a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

 
 

Gay sportbike riders? How fucking ridiculous is that?

Zackly. That’s why I typed “(Joke.)”

And I went 13.5 yrs. once w/o smoking reefer.

 
 

And I went 13.5 yrs. once w/o smoking reefer.

Oh you poor child! I hope you’ve gotten over it?

 
 

I know this is way after the fact, but…

Dude? G?

I’ve heard Iraq compared to Poland.
I’ve heard Bush wiretapping compared to SS secret police eavesdropping.
I’ve heard the old Bush the First laundered money for the Nazis thing.
I’ve heard various iterations on the Nazi anti-Semetism compared to the Bush-era immigrant xenophobia.
And we could get more nuanced with the authoritarian aristocracy angle. I’m not going to look them all up because I’m lazy, but they’re out there.

Dude. I asked for facts. You’re giving me the same stupid unsupported bullshit you posted before. Thanks for the clear and unambiguous example of stupidity.

 
 

G,

It is a fact that blacks commit a far more violent crimes against whites than vice versa. It is a fact that affirmative action legalizes discrimination in university placement and hiring.

Cite, it, asshole. Cite the stats, cite the studies.For that matter, you stupid FUCK, why don’t you take a few moments to actually define what affirmative action really IS, and how its practices are realized in policy, huh?

It is not a FACT that affirmative action does anything – you need to cite the actual data, and then draw a conclusion, and only if the data supports the conclusion, then you have a THEORY, not a FACT.

[again, I know I am responding after the fact. I just can’t STFU].

 
 

g, I am guessing you may have had as many martoonis as PeeJ above. Hope you’re safe at home.

And yes, PeeJ, I got over it. Very well. But forty some yrs. later, it’s not working like it used to. May be the meds.

 
 

Ron Paul sounded totally crazy on Real Time tonight. He believes financial institutions are going bankrupt because of too much regulation and sniffing around by gov’t, that if they’d just been left alone the collapse wouldn’t have happened or they wouldn’t have been corrupt or some such shit. His solution: let everything fail and leave the free market to sort itself out.

Batshit, I tell you.

 
 

Just if there’s still anybody around, being as how I’m all chronologically cockeyed down here in Oz.

But PeeJ and Smut: thanks ever so for the Abba-Dingo/Alpha Ralpha memory jogger – I had to go and read all those old short stories again. Man, what a talent that guy had. And plenty of brains under his hat as well. But a complete genius at the melancholy slice of life.

PeeJ, viz the bike thing – that’s some pretty damn stunning scenery, and yes, it is a shame that the mountain didn’t show up in the pic. Found the post-accident pics scary, but I’m always scared of pain and blood and imminent death. Friend of mine emailed last week to say he’d been knocked off his bike. When I asked if he was hurt, his response was “Not much, broken wrist and foot, but the bike is totaled. They’re delivering it today and I plan to go out and shed a tear or two over the corpse”. This is a guy who did most of his own maintenance and repair, on an old BMW that he’d been nursing for as long as I’ve known him. Some dickhead in a car crosses against the lights and it’s hands, knees, and boomps-a-daisy.

Oh, I’ve also got an emu story: my mother was once chased across a field by one in her yoof. If you’ve seen the size of their feet (great big dinner plates made mostly of claws, not sharp but fucking strong), you’d know why she virtually levitated.

And to round out the Oz animal stories, there was the one (apparently true) about the bloke who was attacked by a male big red (the biggest, about the size of a human). They’re pretty fearsome fighters, and the red was going hammer and tongs, while the guy was pretty close to getting eviscerated, so he grabbed the opportunity when it presented itself. Basically, he grabbed the roo’s goolies and squeezed. Hard. The big red dropped like a stone, allowing the bloke to escape indoors.

Have a look at what the smaller greys can do if you’re not the flinching type, at least.

 
 

It doesn’t matter if a few newspaper people in New York City compare Obama to a chimpanzee in a comic strip. Obama expands Bush policies of war in Afghanistan and secret torture prisons. Thousands die from these policies. You turn a blind eye to these crimes, because you’re invested in the concept of Obama as force for change.

Obama is an artifact of propaganda. Most of you know this, but are afraid to face your friends with an inconvenient truth.

Especially the writer of this post.

 
 

It doesn’t matter if a few newspaper people in New York City compare Obama to a chimpanzee in a comic strip. Obama expands Bush policies of war in Afghanistan and secret torture prisons. Thousands die from these policies. You turn a blind eye to these crimes, because you’re invested in the concept of Obama as force for change.

As Chomsky said, (a) even though both parties are basically the Business Party, there is in fact a major difference between the Republicans and Democrats and (b) the lesser of two evils is still a good.

American politics is such that until a significant period of sane domestic and foreign governance takes place, the debate is going to be between a dirty war in Afghanistan and turning Georgia into Hezbollah. Neither option is good, but one of them is far better than the other, and to throw up your hands and call them all worthless fuckwits is to turn your back in imperial dudgeon on the people Tweedledum has pledged to murder and disinherit above and beyond the victims he and Tweedledee agree on.

 
 

Chomsky rarely and very reluctantly admits that voting Democrat is better, only because when the scale is so huge, any tiny difference counts.

More importantly – these things you say have some merit. Unfortunately, 99% of sadlyno.com, including EVERYTHING on the front page, is something else entirely. It’s all free, base propaganda, written for the benefit of the “good cop” wing of the capitalist party of America, sponsored by Wall Street.

If sadlyno.com were more like what you’re saying, and less a propaganda mill of Malkin photoshops and Obama deification, the world could be a better place.

 
 

>until a significant period of sane domestic and foreign governance takes place

America has no place governing foreign countries. They are sovereign. Why would you imply otherwise?

You may not know that all governance in our culture, for hundreds and thousands of years, has been environmentally unsustainable (i.e. insane.) Humans moved into Europe, hunted its large animals to extinction, and then deforested it. Once that was over, Europeans colonized America and deforested it, too. Now we’re busy deforesting South America.

When you speak of sane governance, which period do you refer to? In which period did we not draw down natural resources at the expense of future generations? I’d like to know.

 
 

More importantly – these things you say have some merit. Unfortunately, 99% of sadlyno.com, including EVERYTHING on the front page, is something else entirely.

Are you going to address the point made, or not?

 
 

>Are you going to address the point made, or not?

What point? Most of the message was written in some kind of code. Who are Tweedledee and Tweedledum? I don’t know offhand. What does it mean to have Hezbollah in Georgia? Never heard of that before. Can we talk frankly? Can we drop all this Obama worship and Malkin hate, and actually talk about something real, without code?

I think Obama is a television character whose purpose is to distract us from being ass-raped by the megarich. He may be the nicest guy on earth, but he is very serious about escalating Afghanistan. Why is that, really? I don’t think it’s right to say “9/11 changed everything, shut up.” Let’s discuss why Obama needs to escalate Afghanistan right now, in practical terms.

 
 

The very best thing about playing greek functions is that they always pay you first thing before you play, because everyone expects to be too blasted by the end of the evening to make that difficult financial transaction. That’s so awesome most people just don’t understand.

I worked in this rock club in the early 80s – back in the days when all these hair metal cover bands, many from the Southern Talent agency in Fl. for some reason, used to travel country-wide playing clubs and military bases – and the club owner was a real cheap prick. (About ten years later he went to prison for running a chop shop supplied with stolen cars from the clients of their bail bond business. I think they were dealing meth out of there too. That kind of guy. Also ran a strip club for a while.) Anyway, he allowed the bands one free pitcher of beer or pop per set, and that was it for the perks.

So there was this local blues band that was kind of a really big deal in the local blues scene, had this rabid fan base that went to all their shows, so even though they weren’t this bar’s regular music sound, Bob (teh owner) liked to book them because they brought in lots of bucks.

I liked to work their shows for the same reason. Their fans were total assholes – got drunk and stupid, one night a girl jumped off the table onto my drinks tray, which was fortunately loaded with empties at the time and not full drinks – but they tipped better than your average young rock fan.

The band was pretty much made up of drunken assholes. One guy in particular was always ‘faced by the end of the night. Since they did so much drinking and Bob was so stingy with the free libations, they always ran up a hefty bar tab by the end of the night. So on one particular night, the show had ended and we were kicking out the crowd and happily but wearily getting ready to close. The worst drunk of the bunch, as I recall he was the keyboard player, claimed he’d layed the bar tab of about $200 on the keyboard and oh my god! it was gone!!!11!

Of course, we sweet young cocktail servers were the only non-band personnel who’d been on the stage, removing the cans and glasses. He was right quick to accuse us of stealing the money. Fortunately Bob, who didn’t like these dicks even though he made money off them, saw right through it immediately. I don’t remember the upshot of this but I don’t think they ever paid the tab and I’m pretty sure they never did a show there again.

Let that be a lesson to cheap bastard club owners like Bob: Don’t be stingy with the freebies when you have crowd-drawing talent in the house, and don’t try to do business with the Seriously Inebriated. If there’s money involved, bidness is best done when everyone can think clearly.

Speaking of thinking clearly, I’ve had a ton of cold medicine and my ears are ringing so loud I couldn’t hear fucking Ministry over it. I’m going back to bed.

 
 

the lesser of two evils is still a good.

The lesser of two evils is still evil, only less so.

Lesser evilism is one of the reason the Democratic Party is so dysfunctional. There is simply no incentive for them to change.

 
 

“Let’s discuss why Obama needs to escalate Afghanistan right now, in practical terms.”

I don’t agree with the escalation for practical reasons (they don’t call Afghanistan the place where empires go to die for nothing) but maybe because Afghanistan is providing a base for a destabilizing force on the border of an unstable country with a nuclear weapons?

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

The rest of y’all can EAT STEVEN CREEDER!

Doooooooood

 
 

Hey everyone – this is off-topic but I just have to share:

Remember the asshole I was working for until he broke the contract in December? The job I almost quit back in July because he was doing illegal shit like trying to make me function as a full-time employee without hourly pay while calling me an “independent contractor”?

Well, his business is, I’m guessing, within 2 months of folding, if not sooner. I found out from my friend the bookkeeper that he hasn’t made tax deposits for two months now. Meanwhile, the busboy kid he picked up at the bar and hired, ostensibly to build a website (7 months later – still no website) and eventually to take over MY job (funny – hiring a kid who doesn’t know a soffit from a sole plate), is still there and drawing $2500 a month for doing nothing other than kiss the boss’ ass (he had to hire him because I wouldn’t kiss it) – and – he’s also been paying this kid, who is a full-time office employee with set hours – as a contractor.

I wouldn’t rule out criminal charges when the shit finally hits the fan.

Honestly, as sorry as I am for the other people I used to work with who are about to be unemployed, I have to say that a huge karmic debt is about to be revisited upon my asshole ex-boss. He’s such an asshole that there’s not a chance he could work for anyone else, and because he’s self-employed, he’s not going to be eligible for unemployment (as I haven’t been either). And everyone has been telling him for years that he had a choice to either make money or run the business as an ego trip – and he decided at every turn that “ego trip” was the way to go. I know of at least $100K in profit he pissed away in the last year alone, and at least that much for each of the previous years I worked with him. I have to imagine that at this point in time, he’s gotta be thinking about how that $300K + would have come in handy right about now.

 
 

Unfortunately, 99% of sadlyno.com, including EVERYTHING on the front page, is something else entirely.

If it were something other than what it is, a place to come and make fun of the kind of people that fight any kind of positive change and in fact want to make everything far worse, the people who hang out here so we don’t have to go out and choke a motherfucker wouldn’t be here to read what you have to say. I guess you’re disappointed that people don’t like racist cartoons and that this blog is not the place where revolutionary political change in the western world is generated. That makes me sad for you, comrade, so go find the blog where that does happen and report back. Don’t just sit there, people are dying out there. MOVE, MOVE!

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Jennifer – what goes around comes around. Guy sounds like a real dick.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

Honestly, as sorry as I am for the other people I used to work with who are about to be unemployed, I have to say that a huge karmic debt is about to be revisited upon my asshole ex-boss.

What Rusty said.

This guy sounds much worse than my worst boss, who bankrupted the company and threw us all out of work because he set up a branch office of the company in another state so he could have an excuse to jet over and be with his mistress.

Enjoy the schadenfreude.

 
 

Hey, want to know what’s even better? I’m the one getting the calls from all of our subcontractors, asking if I can help find them projects. While I’m not prepared to open a contracting business (huge risk, especially now – I could probably get the license but couldn’t afford the insurance I’d be required to carry to do big jobs), I’m starting to make the rounds of all the realtors, banks, and others who are sitting on/trying to sell foreclosed or vacant houses. It’s not as big an opportunity here as it would be in a lot of places, since no one really did much sub-prime lending here and there wasn’t as much overbuilding and we’ve not had a huge number of foreclosures, but still, there are a lot of empty houses around due to the state of the housing market. Anyway, the guys who have been calling me are on board with paying me a percentage as a finder’s fee, so I’m making the rounds offering to survey and maintain vacant homes – light work such as lawn care, power washing, minor carpentry repairs, painting. I may end up representing and coordinating the services of most of the people who used to answer to my boss. It’s ironic, though perhaps not in a fully Alanis Morrisette kind of way.

 
 

My Creme de minthe/Hitler/tobacco/country swing/Poland Venn diagram is just not fucking connecting at all.

 
 

I know I’m late with this and I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but I can’t leave the simple math alone.

“When blacks commit crimes, their victims are white 45% of the time; the reverse happens only 3% of the time.” That means that when whites commit crimes their victims are white 97% of the time.

OMFG it’s the WHITES that are really out to get us!!!!!!one!! This country won’t be safe till we ship them all back to Europe where they came from!

 
 

More importantly – waaaaahhhh 99% of sadlyno.com, including EVERYTHING on the front page, is waaaahhhhh waaahhh capitalist waaaahhh party of America

Here’s a tip for ya, dumbfuck: this is a humor blog. The only thing we’re serious about is snark and kicking the shit out of brain dead hateful shits such as yourself. It’s for our benefit and ours alone. phtphptphtttt

Thanks for playing!

 
 

The state of Florida slaps the invisible hand that holds the tiny fishies. Further proof that Charlie Crist is certainly not a fiscal conservative.

 
 

Chomsky rarely and very reluctantly admits that voting Democrat is better, only because when the scale is so huge, any tiny difference counts.

Chimpsky is also a Nadroid, which means he too sucks from the wingnut tit. Fuck him.

 
 

It doesn’t matter if a few newspaper people in New York City compare Obama to a chimpanzee in a comic strip. Obama expands Bush policies of war in Afghanistan and secret torture prisons. Thousands die from these policies. You turn a blind eye to these crimes, because you’re invested in the concept of Obama as force for change.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

 
 

If we compare Gore to Bush, as in 2000, we can see that the Lesser Evil comes down to picking your seat, getting fair wages, and a lifejacket.

As opposed to being chained to an oar and going down the ship.

Yes, in both cases we are just rowing the big ship, as opposed to swinging in a hammock on the deck, the Best Case Scenario.

But I know which Lesser Evil I would choose.

 
 

Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. I’m not sure Gore would have even stayed out of Iraq had he been President–look who he chose as his VP for God’s sake!

 
 

Rick Astley’s courageous and principled stand on behalf of (?) and his fearless refusal to succumb to the forces of (?) have inspired me to pledge to devote my life to (?) in support of (?)-loving peoples everywhere.

Meanwhile, I demand that Sadly, No cease posting any humor-oriented entries or comments, lest we detract from the gravity of the ongoing struggle against (?).

Thank you, and poop.

 
 

Or look at who Obama chose for Secretary of State. Someone who says human rights in China “shouldn’t interfere” with our relationship. Just shameless.

 
 

And, Socks the White House Cat passes on. Almost 20; that’s a good run.

I always found him to be an extraordinary cat; calm, easy with attention, obviously affectionate, and a wonderful Goodwill Ambassador for cats everywhere.

He will be missed.

I even put up a tribute.

 
 

I’m not sure Gore would have even stayed out of Iraq

Congratulations. That is high on the list of infinitely idiotic statements ever made. Stayed out of Iraq? That’s some world class stoopid™ there bub.

 
 

Yeah picking Neocon Lieberman has VP was just telling us how anti-war he was, huh PeeJ?

 
 

Keep bending over for the Democrats, Israel, and the AIPAC agenda PeeJ.

Remember, they only hit you because they love you so much!

 
 

“Oh, and as far as my musing about when MM will become unhinged, I’m talking about “leaping over a desk at FOX and biting Geraldo’s nose off” unhinged.”

Hot damn! I’d pay to see that!

 
 

Where, I wonder, does Florida stand on anal bleaching?

BYWP

 
 

Those wacky liberal media masters at the LA LA Times just can’t get enough. Chief Editor Alan Keyes has a rant demanding the VAULT COPY!!!!

The controversy will not go away!

 
 

Where, I wonder, does Florida stand on anal bleaching?

I think it’s a green light, but not with little proctologist fish.

 
 

How much do you mass, Green? Your density is in neutron start territory. The only thing worse than a stoopid™ twit is a stoopid™ sociopathic twit. You’ve hit the mark again.

 
 

Keep making those ad hominem attacks against me. I hope they make you feel better about being hoodwinked by slick marketing into voting for a corporate tool.

 
 

An ad hominem attack would be a fallacious attack against your “argument”. These are just observations on you personally.

 
 

Keep making those ad hominem attacks against me.

You know what? I seriously want to hug whoever brought this to my attention first, because it is a great way to salt the wound once you’ve pwned someone. Usually the cry of last resort is “OMG AD HOMINEM I am not talking to u ever again!!!!11eleventy!!1” Then you can say, “yeah, no.”

 
 

Making a point and having someone replay to it as “LOLZ U R A STOOPID TWIT” is an ad hominem.

 
 

Making a point and having someone replay to it as “LOLZ U R A STOOPID TWIT” is an ad hominem.

You didn’t even read that link did you?

 
 

and posting up telling everyone they are fools for voting for PRESIDENT Obama is…

 
 

But like I said it must be hard to vote for someone who turned out to be a right wing tool wrapped in left-wing marketing, controlled by the corporations and the PNAC/AIPAC agenda. So I almost feel sorry for you all.

If you had voted for McKinney, you wouldn’t feel so angry/scammed.

 
 

A swing and a miss! But, ckc, let’s note his perseverence and “ability” to be obtuse in every single comment. He’s batting 1000 in the world series of stoopid™

Ob. BYWP

 
 

Nope not all Greed cuz it really pisses Republican Bigots off to NO END..

kiss kiss coward.

 
 

Obama/McCain….mostly the same. Not a dime’s worth of difference, and the last month has proved it.

 
 

Good morning!

Thought I’d check in with my old buds at Sadly, No!. See, last time I was here, few days ago, it was pretty boring, what with the arguing with idiots being pretty much all that was going on.

So let’s see. What’s going on around here this morning? Oh! What a surprise. Arguing with idiots.

Welp, have fun.

See you guys later…

mikey

 
 

See ya Mikey, sorry people aren’t living up to your expectations.

 
 

Someday you will find out that the puppet on the right and the puppet on the left are..wait for it…controlled by the same puppeteer!

 
 

same puppeteer?

Which one? Jim Henson? Shari Lewis? Edgar Bergen?

 
 

The same corporate masters.

 
 

Ford, GE, or Sony?

 
 

Making a point and having someone replay to it as “LOLZ U R A STOOPID TWIT” is an ad hominem.

That wouldn’t be true even if you had made a point.*

*Having at the idjit is technically ad hominem if you take ad hominem transliterally. But, certainly the contextual use of the phrase which refers to rhetorical device is the commonly understood sense. So one could argue that he’s correct in some sense but in practice, that was yet another swing and yet another miss.

 
 

Do they have special costumes?

Masks and big cloaks?

 
 

So let’s see. What’s going on around here this morning? Oh! What a surprise. Arguing with idiots.

Actually, I’m pretty sure they’re arguing with a parody troll.

 
 

mikey, we’re not arguing with him, we’re slapping him around. Totally different. Blart.

 
 

Come on Greed, we need specifics or this whole thing is gonna get lost in committee.

Big Cloaks or NOT?

 
 

Not even one blog post here about the genocide against the Afghan people Obama is expanding.

 
 

Shalom, gentlemen.

 
 

Get that one from Raimundo?

 
 

You know, I ran on the Green Party ticket once.

 
 

“#Ralph Nader said,

February 21, 2009 at 21:48

You know, I ran on the Green Party ticket once.”

Yes and? I voted for you, and I would do it again.

 
 

Awful quick to reply to that one, eh?

 
 

Still a Nader voter?

You do understand (haha) that statement alone (haha) is enough to discredit any credibility(hahahahaha) you may have had?

 
 

In regards to Mikey’s post, I’m a relative newcomer here myself, but I gotta ask: Was Sadly, No ever an intellectual meeting ground where Gentlemen of Leisure would engage in the traditions of high-minded Socratic Debate, politely applauding one another, with pinkies extended on their white-gloved hands while sipping tea and nibbling watercress sandwiches?

 
 

Come on, Greed. You accuse Obama of Genocide then slink away? People might think you NEVER had anything to say but just wanted to be verbally abused for 5 minutes.

Shouldn’t that be your family’s job?

 
 

In regards to Mikey’s post, I’m a relative newcomer here myself, but I gotta ask: Was Sadly, No ever an intellectual meeting ground

No, but the troll thing is pretty new. We’ve always been about buttsex jokes and going too far in the humor department. That every new thread manages to attract a troll that derails it is the problem.

 
 

But let me clarify/go further—there are a lot of wildly intelligent people here and some of them are being alienated by the crap that’s going on. So that, in a nutshell, is mikey’s problem I think.

 
 

It will keep happening to because there are very few places left that allow this type of open commenting.

 
 

You can ignore the Trolls or you can abuse them, but they are NOT going away.

 
 

It will keep happening to because there are very few places left that allow this type of open commenting.

Maybe, but a lot of this crowd’s fellow travelers—I’m thinking of Roy, TBogg (at least at his old place), The Editors, and a few others, do. They do not, as far as I know, have this magnitude of a troll problem.

 
 

Tbogg has registration now, I think most of them never get The Editors jokes, and Ed just scares the hell out of them.

Ultimately, tho I think its those stupid weblog awards that attracts the Trolls to Sadly, No.

 
 

Sorry, Roy

 
 

Pandagon was forced to adopt registration just recently, as well.

I realize that my previous comment may have come off as a tad more flippant than I’d intended; I don’t want to sound like I’m unsympathetic to this particular problem, because I’m not. I’ve seen several good forums go under entirely due to asshole trolls desperate for attention.

 
 

I realize that my previous comment may have come off as a tad more flippant than I’d intended

No, you asked a perfectly valid question. Let me put it this way—this blog has been, and largely continues to be, smart. Polite, is what we have never been.

 
 

You can ignore the Trolls or you can abuse them, but they are NOT going away.

This place has always had trolls. The current problem isn’t so much the trolls themselves, it’s our response to them. Threadjackings occur when commenters give in to the temptation to start seriously arguing with trolls instead of just ignoring or ridiculing them, thereby allowing the trolls to determine what’s being discussed. That’s how we’ve wound up with thread after thread of endless, mind-numbingly dull spit-spats over the Jena Six and similar bullshit.

 
 

The “seriously arguing with” part is the the kicker here. I think some that stems from wishing and hoping the next one (haha) might actually TRY to put something, ANYTHING, up that is thoughtful or new. (pipedreams, 2 for penny).

 
 

Thanks to the fine Firefox add-ons, I can tune out any given arsehole who’s shouting out the same inflammatory paragraph over and over in the hope of getting a bite. It is harder to tune out the regulars who reply to that paragraph (with the waste-of-pixels words repeated in blockquotes), or try to convince the troll that he has been pwned, or quote his even-stupider-than-usual comments from months earlier.

 
 

try to convince the troll that he has been pwned

There is no greater self-pwnage.

 
 

RB demonstrates my point about WASTE-OF-PIXEL WORDS REPEATED IN BLOCKQUOTES.

 
 

Man, the plan I’m on let’s me have all the pixels I want for free.

 
 

Still a Nader voter?

Yup. Dubya and Al Gore were just two sides of the same coin.

 
 

Thinking that Al Gore was anything close to being a liberal is what is worthy of being laughed at.

 
 

RB demonstrates my point about WASTE-OF-PIXEL WORDS REPEATED IN BLOCKQUOTES.

Pwned.

 
 

Again, listen to Chomsky. We do better under Democratic rule; this is consistent, and an inevitable feature of the Republicans being utterly devoted to militarily destabilizing the Third World and then flooding it with arms and mercenaries.

The Naderite line about the two parties being two sides of the same coin is subtly wrong. In 2000 they were both centrist corporatist authoritarians; starting in 2001 one party went completely over to the military-industrial complex and has been busily smashing every other tie it has to the business community.

And (a) by ‘foreign governance’ I meant foreign policy, nothing more or less innocent than that, and (b) I have to agree that suggesting Gore might have invaded Iraq is asinine. Iraq was a neocon/Likudnik bagatelle, and the Clintonites were perfectly happy to resort to a murderous diplomatic solution — which, horrifyingly, actually took fewer lives than the current fucking occupation — instead of calling up GE and Bechtel and suggesting a hootenanny. Afghanistan was an ill-conceived war, but as of right now all the arguments used in Iraq actually apply there – we’ve left no faction in actual control of the country and our allies are as unacceptable in power as our enemies. Bribing the Northern Alliance in 2002 essentially tied any President’s hands in 2009.

Again, the lesser of two evils might still be evil, but it’s a positive step, and just flat-out denying that doesn’t fucking do anything. As Americans, we inhabit a political world which is firmly set into a bipartisan mold – even extremely popular third-party candidates rarely produce any more than a couple of coattail governors and state senators. You want to change that, change the parties or change the Constitution. You want to find a Dunkin Donuts, get a cop win everything right now? Move to Japan. They’ve got a viable Communist party and proportional representation.

 
 

Green said,
February 21, 2009 at 21:44

Obama is expanding.

No, you’re thinking of Al Gore, or maybe Rush Limbaugh.

 
 

copy and paste much?

 
 

It is harder to tune out the regulars who reply to that paragraph (with the waste-of-pixels words repeated in blockquotes)

Are you against quoting as a firm policy, or just where trolls are concerned? Because I find it easier to read when someone quotes what they’re replying to, rather than my trying to remember or scroll back and find it.

Plus, I wanted to get your goat.

 
 

self-pwnage

Or, borrowing from soccer (own goal), pwn pwnage.

 
 

Owlbear, I get rollover pixels.

 
 

And (a) by ‘foreign governance’ I meant foreign policy, nothing more or less innocent than that, and (b) I have to agree that suggesting Gore might have invaded Iraq is asinine. Iraq was a neocon/Likudnik bagatelle

Like Lieberman, Gore’s handpicked VP, wasn’t a Likudnik? I think you underestimate how much influence they had over Gore circa 2000.

Of course once Gore was out of power he could position himself as a peacenik because he didn’t need their funding/support anymore, but that was only AFTER he left politics.

 
 

two sides of the same coin
There’s your problem right there. In NZ we use D&D dice for currency, and everyone is much happier.

 
 

From back in ’92, btw, there’s a video of Gore accosting H.W. Bush for being “too soft” on Saddam and “ignoring his ties to terror”. Look it up on YouTube.

 
 

Plus, I wanted to get your goat.
That will cost a 20-sided die. Do you mind getting your change in octahedra?

 
 

I wasn’t trying to buy it, it was a straight-up theft. Hey, look over there! *swipes dice, too… rides away in purloined-goat drawn* sleigh*

*Yes, it DOES look terrible.

 
 

From back in ’92

Here’s where you begin to wonder if this moron isn’t for real. ONLY a Republican would hold the EXACT same opinion for 17 years.

And assume everyone else does the same…

 
Desperately Seek Snark
 

The octahedra hurt like Hell when stepped on. Honestly they hurt as bad as the tetrahedron. There’s some video of Gore stepping on an octahedra once when he gave a presentation wearing only a suit and socks. It was back in 1992 I think. Look it up on youtube.

Republican dice and Democratic dice are just the same dice being rolled for the corporate Dungeon Master.

 
 

Are you against quoting as a firm policy?
I have to say that the Pie filter does not handle nested blockquotes very well, and often leaves the contents of a blockquote intact, even after it has redacted the main contents of a comment to read “I like Pie”.
This means, of course, that when I add RB to the troll list, I still end up reading my own words that he quoted in his comment, and you know how embarrassing that can be.

Now if you will excuse me, I am heading down into the old threads in the archives, where I intend to spent the next two hours arguing with spam-bots and telling them how pwned they have been.

 
 

There’s some video of Gore stepping on an octahedra once when he gave a presentation wearing only a suit and socks.

Wearing SOCKS?!?!??!

AL GORE KILLED THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE CAT!!!!!!!!

 
 

and the cycle continues…

 
 

Do decahedra make change for dodecahedra?

 
 

AL GORE KILLED THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE CAT!!!!!!!!

Sorry, you wanted the socks thread down the hall.

 
 

two sides of the same coin
———————————-
There’s your problem right there. In NZ we use D&D dice for currency, and everyone is much happier.

I prefer using one-sided moebius coins. That way I can opt out of all that three-dimensional jive.

 
 

I apologize for feeding the troll earlier today but in my defense I thought that was the real Rick Astley up there and not the usual troll who’s now calling himself Green. Rick Astley is a notorious Naderite who I’ve pwned in nearly every corner of the internet over the past 8 years or so. Sorry if that sounds immodest but it’s true. Remember that time I pwned him in a debate over agricultural subsidies at FDL? Wasn’t that awesome? He’s been hiding from me ever since. Totally afraid of me and I’m not the slightest bit ashamed to brag about pwnages past in a transparent effort to get him to respond to me so that my intellectual prowess, I can show you it.

 
 

Jorges Luis Borges was way ahead of you.

 
Teh Everything-but-Grammar Police
 

We are following several promising lines of inquiry in the search for the notorious internet goat-napper. Witnesses have provided descriptions of the scene, as shown in the attached reconstruction.

 
 

as shown in the attached reconstruction.

The Hills have eyes! CREEPY.

 
 

is jorges-borges like the wooly-booly?

 
 

Witnesses have provided descriptions of the scene, as shown in the attached reconstruction.

Why does this remind me of a Palin family vacation?

 
 

is jorges-borges like the wooly-booly?
More like a tohu-bohu [he said, willy-nilly]

 
 

Jorge Borges, so wooly-boolies or tohu-bohus would be more correct.

 
 

Annoyingly pedantic kitteh is annoyingly pedantic. Sorry.

 
 

Jorges Luis Borges was way ahead of you.

‘Ahead’ and ‘behind’ are outmoded positional concepts that have no place in the post-dimensional world in which we find ourselves… or in which we would find ourselves if we could find anything. Where are my keys?

 
 

I’d bet good money that “Green” is DNN. Notice that his first post was immediately after a DNN post whining about how Ralph Nader and anyone who has ever supported him or said anything nice about him is a bought-and-paid-for tool of Hitlerburton?

 
 

Obscure Words: tohu-bohu

[F.] that which is empty and formless; chaos; utter confusion

Somehow, I just knew that this was going to be what it meant.

 
 

I’d bet good money that “Green” is DNN.

Oh, I’d go farther than that.

 
 

All. One. Guy.

 
 

Notice how he was silenced, for a while anyway, after I started posting.

 
 

Nope, not Green.

And “Ralph Nader”, aka DocAmazing or whoever, I’m still not The Truth and never have been. Sorry.

 
 

Obscure Words: tohu-bohu [F.] that which is empty and formless; chaos; utter confusion
—————————————————–
Somehow, I just knew that this was going to be what it meant.

Knowing what something means is a sign that you’re not in a state of utter confusion. Sorry, but you just haven’t realized your tohu-bohu potential.

 
 

Someone once warned me that the Internet might eventually become dominated by corporate power. So, here we are.

All of us are free to say anything we like on the Internet, with anonymity even.

Everyone here knows that the Democratic party is shamelessly corrupt and roughly as evil as the Republican party. Remember Madeleine Albright, who said that 500,000 dead Iraqi children are “worth it” on 60 minutes?

I can sympathize if you are devoted to hope and change in the real world, and are unable to speak truth to power because then you can’t accomplish anything.

But here, on the Internet, where you’re completely free to speak truth to anyone anytime, why compromise and participate in the spin machine?

Why can’t you say what’s really on your mind? Why can’t there be any dissent from the party line? Why do we need to defend Obama’s secret torture and Afghanistan escalation? And, why do we need to vilify Bush’s secret torture and Afghanistan escalation?

You are so beholden to bullshit corporate interests, that you spend your free time, on the internet, defending their propaganda.

Who’s the troll here?

 
 

[F.] that which is empty and formless; chaos; utter confusion
I am an expert on the topic.

The Hills have eyes! CREEPY.
You want more? Emil Nolde is happy to oblige.

 
 

Snorghagen said,
Where are my keys?

Perhaps you should join Righteous Bubba’s missing-key support group.

 
 

even jon stewart is allowed to poke fun at obama, and he makes millions from the corporate machine. why is sadlyno.com not allowed to criticize obama, when no money is involved?

 
 

Who’s the troll here?

The Nihilist…

 
 

Perhaps you should join Righteous Bubba’s missing-key support group.

You know, I finally get “Another Kiwi”. Ha! Ha!

 
 

why is sadlyno.com not allowed to criticize obama, when no money is involved?

Please read this thread in great detail. You will be quizzed.

 
 

Frankly, I’m at the point of wishing Obama was a Nazi. The wingers are already whining about how he’s oppressing them and throwing them in concentration camps and gassing them to death ( I thought the gas was Rush’s job?), but like all government initiatives it is hopelessly stalled in committee. I think it’s time for some private entreprenaurship in solving our rightwinger problem.

 
 

>Please read this thread in great detail. You will be quizzed.

You’re right, that one post from May 2008 isn’t so bad. Now that Democrats control all branches of government, why does sadlyno.com continue to fight Malkin? Those guys are last year’s story, they’ve all been discredited and kicked out and powerless.

Even bigoted Christian leaders are saying on NPR that the Republican party is over. Even those guys have moved on. When will sadlyno.com move on?

The crimes of the next five years will all be supervised by Democrats. When can we talk about that?

 
 

Nothing shouts out “sincerity” and “preference for good-faith argument” like accusing that a group of bloggers or commenters of ignoring one’s personal obsession, in preference to starting one’s own blog to cover that topic with the detail and attention that it deserves.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPHECY.

 
 

Nothing shouts out “sincerity” and “preference for good-faith argument” like accusing that a group of bloggers or commenters of ignoring one’s personal obsession, in preference to starting one’s own blog to cover that topic with the detail and attention that it deserves.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPHECY.

 
 

>Nothing shouts out “sincerity” and “preference for good-faith argument” like
>accusing that a group of bloggers or commenters of ignoring one’s personal
>obsession, in preference to starting one’s own blog to cover that topic with the
>detail and attention that it deserves.

95% of YOU in private smugly agree that Obama’s a corporate whore, the Democrats are evil, The War On Terror is a sham, etc. And just as smugly on public Internet forums defend everything Obama. More troops for Afghanistan? AOK as long as Obama wants it. Secret torture? if it’s Obama, we love it here.

Why the duplicity? What does it serve? This is the Internet. Why maintain the facade here?

 
 

Rick, if ya got a link to a ‘lefty’ blogger going on about Obama’s divinity I’d love to see it.

 
 

Wow, Rick, you just totally demolished SC’s point. You must be some kind of a genius.

 
 

why is sadlyno.com not allowed to criticize obama, when no money is involved?

But money is involved – and so much more! The corporate / DNC overlords pay us off with generous bribes, comprehensive benefits, and an exciting array of unusual sexual activities. Go ahead and indulge yourself with a languid afternoon spent in the company of an attractive and affectionate goat provided by Exxon… I bet you’ll see things differently.

 
 

an exciting array of unusual sexual activities

I’m guessing that for Rick, any sexual activity at all would be highly unusual.

 
 

Why the duplicity? What does it serve? … Why maintain the facade …?

…all very, very stupid “questions”.

 
 

Rick Astley stormed into my brothel and demanded that we sell him a toaster oven.

 
 

You think with all this money, we could FYWP once and for all.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Regarding the troll, time to give him up, time to let him down.

 
The Troll-Beaters
 

Never gonna.

 
 

Rick Astley stormed into my brothel and demanded that we sell him a toaster oven.

Hey, it’s that freaky deaky toaster-lusting author somebody(Smut, I’d wager) commented about before!

 
 

I have one regret about that thread, tigrismus… Mikey told a story about a three-legged dog, and NO-ONE made the obvious joke about “looking for the man who shot my paw”.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Holy clucking schmidt, tig! That Ballard quote… did he pen a sequel to Disch’s beloved classic?

The Brave Little Toaster Gets Laid?

!

 
 

Is it just me or does Ricky read a lot like Bruce the GP?

 
 

Can I interest you in a XQJ-37 Nuclear-Powered Pansexual Roto-Plooker?

Plook you wordpress
Plook you too hard

 
 

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