Fragments From Teh Couch-And-Leftover-Halloween-Candy Project*

‘Missouri Loves Company,’ or, ‘The Yeah-Right-Show-Me State,’ or, ‘In The Midnight Hour, They Cried MO, MO, MO,’
and/or various other obvious and available puns: A Drama in Four Quotations:

A Pitch reporter volunteers for the McCain campaign
By Peter Rugg
Published on October 28, 2008 at 1:37pm

The first McCain volunteer I met was Mary, 74, a Republican precinct captain from Blue Springs. When I walked into the campaign headquarters at 3600 Noland Road in Independence, she said she was surprised to see me because I was young, and young people go for Obama.

“I don’t always agree with people my age,” I told her.

It was early afternoon on a Monday in late September, and we were the only two people at the phone bank. Damaged tables of prefabricated wood stood end to end around the drab office space. On the tables were phones and miniature white laptops.

[…]

At the end of my first day, a friend of Mary’s joined us. Her name was Carolyn.

“Have you seen this?” she asked. In her hand was a printed e-mail. “It’s about Obama being with the Muslims.”

The papers listed passages supposedly taken from Obama’s book, Dreams From My Father. There was a stack of the printouts in the office.

I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race, read one of the quotes. I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction…. This sort of thing went on for three pages.

(Later I checked the excerpts. Some were total fabrications; others were quoted out of context to appear more radical.)

Mary gasped. “You know, I hate to say anyone’s a Muslim no matter what party they’re in, especially without proof. But, him, I just don’t know … ”

Carolyn nodded solemnly.

The next time I went to the office, the windows had been smashed out with a rock half the size of a football.

McCain was in town that morning for a campaign appearance with 200 invited guests. The women at the campaign headquarters hadn’t been invited.

Over the next hour, I realized that most of the volunteers came in with specific ideas about what was and was not a waste of their time, and most had decided that they could best help the Republicans by lounging in the office and drinking diet soda.

“I’m a little worried. The week that woman’s had,” one volunteer said of Sarah Palin. The vice-presidential debate was that night. “If they asked Katie Couric any of those questions, she wouldn’t know. Nobody knows that stuff.”

The window-repair truck arrived — with an Obama sticker on its bumper. The women were certain that this was evidence of a conspiracy. One woman, in a white blouse (with an elephant on the front over her heart and a bald eagle on the back, both outlined in glitter), wanted to take a picture of the truck. The other volunteers stopped her, afraid of starting any trouble. This led to a debate about the cultlike reverence of Obama’s supporters for Obama.

“I’ll vote for him, and the world will be just a paradise, and all my problems will be solved,” one mocked.

“Sure,” Glitter Blouse said. “If you want to vote for an Arab Muslim.”

That night, I went to a debate-watch party in the basement of a Pentecostal church on Red Bridge Road. A few retirees stood around a snack table, talking about the economy crashing while sitcoms played without sound on a 50-inch flat-screen TV.

[…]

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From: Rick Davis, McCain-Palin Campaign

Subject: The State of the Campaign

To: Interested Parties

From: Rick Davis, Campaign Manager

Date: October 31, 2008

RE: The Final Push

[…]

The Final Barnstorm

* On Monday, we will have a 14 state rally with our candidates crisscrossing the country trying to turn out our voters and sway the final undecided voters. Governor Palin will hit Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada and Alaska in the final day of campaigning, while Senator McCain will travel from Tampa, Florida, to Virginia, then Pennsylvania, Indiana, New Mexico, Nevada and finish the night in Prescott, Arizona. The enthusiasm and excitement we generate on Monday will be the electricity that powers our “Get Out the Vote” efforts on Tuesday.

On the Ground

* Our field organization has tremendous energy and is out-performing the Bush campaign at the same time in 2004. This week our field organization crossed a huge threshold and began reaching more than one million voters per day, and by week’s end will have contacted more than 5 million voters. Our phone centers are full and our rate of voter contact is significantly out-pacing the Bush campaign in 2004. We have the resources to do the voter contact necessary to support the surge we are seeing in our polling with old fashioned grassroots outreach.

[…]

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The Big Empty
Friday, October 31, 2008

As the only reporter during this election who has actually visited upwards of 50 of John McCain’s field offices around the country (13 battleground states and counting), this piece by Matthew Mosk at the Washington Post comes as no surprise:

The decision to finance a final advertising push is forcing McCain to curtail spending on Election Day ground forces to help usher his supporters to the polls, according to Republican consultants familiar with McCain’s strategy.

The vaunted, 72-hour plan that President Bush used to mobilize voters in 2000 and 2004 has been scaled back for McCain. He has spent half as much as Obama on staffing and has opened far fewer field offices. This week, a number of veteran GOP operatives who orchestrate door-to-door efforts to get voters to the polls were told they should not expect to receive plane tickets, rental cars or hotel rooms from the campaign.

“The desire for parity on television comes at the expense of investment in paid boots on the ground,” said one top Republican strategist who has been privy to McCain’s plans. “The folks who will oversee the volunteer operation have been told to get out into the field on their own nickel.”

The busiest McCain office we saw was in Arlington, at the national HQ, but tight security prevented us from getting any pictures. Ironically, that was our first full office, in our 11th battleground state.

Offices in Troy, Ohio were closed on Saturday October 11. With perfect coincidental timing, two elderly women dropped by to volunteer but found the office shut. At Republican state headquarters in Columbus later the same day, one lonely dialer sat in a sea of unoccupied chairs. In Des Moines on September 25, another empty office. In Santa Fe on September 17, one dialer made calls while six chatted amongst themselves about how they didn’t like Obama. In Raleigh this past Saturday, ten days before the election with early voting already open, two women dialed and a male staffer watched the Georgia-LSU game. In Durango, Colorado on September 20, the Republican office was locked and closed. Indiana didn’t have McCain Victory offices when we were there in early October.

When the offices are open, they have reduced hours. We can confidently plan to get evening good-light photographs of a town after we visit the local McCain office, because we know it will be closing by 5 pm, as the office in Wilmington, North Carolina was this past Sunday. The plan is, get to inevitably closed/closing McCain office, get an hour of photos near sunset, then visit the bustling local Obama office.

In Cortez, CO, we had Republican volunteers pose for action-shot photos. The same in Española, New Mexico. Posed. For some time at the outset, we were willing to give Republicans the benefit of the doubt. They convinced us they were really working, and that we had just had unfortunate timing. It wasn’t until the pattern of “just missed it” started to sound like a drumbeat in our ears that we began to grow skeptical. We never “just missed” any of the Obama volunteer work, because it goes on nonstop, every day, in every office, in every corner of America.

We found scattered nuggets of activity. Colorado Springs, Colorado held eight dialers and two front office volunteers. Albemarle County, Virginia had a busy office of 15 volunteers, and we reported that. Last night in Tampa, nine phonebankers were busy dialing at the Republican Party of Florida Hillsborough County HQ when we arrived at 8:00 pm. Seven dialers sat in McCain’s Hickory, North Carolina office this past Saturday afternoon.

Those offices seemed busy to us, naturally, because they were explosively full relative to other offices we’ve stopped in on. But even the Colorado Springs office was dwarfed by the Obama Colorado Springs operation.

These ground campaigns do not bear any relationship to one another. One side has something in the neighborhood of five million volunteers all assigned to very clear and specific pieces of the operation, and the other seems to have something like a thousand volunteers scattered throughout the country. Jon Tester’s 2006 Senate race in Montana had more volunteers — by a mile — than John McCain’s 2006 presidential campaign.

When Republican volunteers talk to us about how much enthusiasm and participation they notice in fellow volunteers, they mention how many people have come to pick up yard signs or bumper stickers. We haven’t yet seen a single Republican canvasser. (The one in Cortez, CO was staged; she said canvassing is the kind of thing she would do, and we made a decision to do the picture because we were concerned with not presenting “balance.” There is no balance in the facts.)

When we attempted to visit the Republican HQ in Maryland Heights, Missouri, we saw a couple volunteers populating the office, and we were subsequently denied the opportunity to even speak to volunteers specifically selected so as to be “on message.” By contrast, Obama’s volunteers own such a piece of the campaign (Respect-Empower-Include) that the problem is they often have too much information, and when the campaign allows me to talk with them on the record I can ask a too-precise series of questions that result in publishing details the campaign later realizes it didn’t want published.

We read the published comments from McCain spokespeople that argue the dialing/canvassing numbers are ahead of where they were at the same time four years ago. Well, either the Bush ground game of 2004 was the Big Myth, or those spokespeople are flat lying to reporters, who have no context to challenge those claims because they haven’t seen the empty offices the way we have.

[…]

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Red State Missouri (Kat-Mo)
—Open Blog

So, I showed up at the Jackson Co. Republican Party Headquarters in Independence, MO today to see what was going on. Let me tell you, the place was jumping. As I rolled up, a group of about twenty wearing “Country First” t-shirts were rolling out with signs and other information to go door to door. Many of them were young men and women in their early twenties.

The sight of so many young people getting involved for McCain/Palin was absolutely heartening considering the whole idea of the “youth vote”. As a matter of fact, the young woman in charge of the volunteer effort who greeted me at the door was in her early twenties as well and very energetic and up beat. She is not anticipating losing on Tuesday.

There were at least thirty people manning the phone bank non-stop.

For anyone out there who is ready to give up: get up, go out and get to your local campaign headquarters. Stop looking at the polls. If you get out there, what you will see is a great effort going on. It is exhilarating just to see and be part of the activity that makes our government system so great: people participating in the great experiment called democracy.

This is where the action is at.

As Gabe et al have been stating, it just takes a few minutes. And, I can tell you that none of these people are down about the prospects of the election on Nov. 4. They are upbeat and excited.

I’ll be up at the campaign office again tomorrow morning where I was told by Amy that the headquarters was going to get a special visitor at 10 AM.

If you’re in the KC/Independence vicinity, you can catch up with me there. You’ll know who I am by the secret hand shake.

One more thing…

Dear Senator Obama…

Not wanting to give the government more of our money to spend irresponsibly and inefficiently on someone who didn’t earn it, but wanting to keep as much as possible to provide for our own family’s safety, comfort and general welfare is not “selfishness”, it is “self-reliance”.

Try looking that word up some time and learn the difference.

Yours,
Kat

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* Cf.

 

Comments: 183

 
 
 

Heh. The Obama meetings in metro Atlanta that I’ve gone to (the suburbs, might I add) are always packed.

 
 

So I could probly lift a free laptop from the Republican place?

 
 

But guys, Obama will lose. How do I know this? The same way Truthie does: Baseless assertion.

 
 

Rick Davis:

The enthusiasm and excitement we generate on Monday will be the electricity that powers our “Get Out the Vote” efforts on Tuesday.

Zzzzap.

 
 

Tyrone Shoelaces said,
November 2, 2008 at 5:55

So I could probly lift a free laptop from the Republican place?

 

Laptop stolen from regional GOP headquarters

First Gov. Sarah Palin’s e-mail account was hacked, and now a laptop with strategic information to help the Republican ticket in a critical swing state has been stolen.

A Dell laptop belonging to the Republican party’s regional coordinator in Independence, Mo., was stolen on the night of September 30 out of the party’s “Kansas City Victory Office.”

[…]

 
 

The pictures that go with the 538 article are pretty terrific.

 
 

well.. the flux capacitor kicked in at just the wrong time for me to avoid temptation.

 
 

Check out the last comment on the Pitch piece. I know that Barry Hussein X is the master hypnotist, but I can’t shake off the feeling that the constant repetition of “our beautiful soon to be Vice President Sarah Palin” is attempt at bewitchment.

 
 

McCain must be banking on the robocalls.

 
 

booger says that Obama will win (well, now he says that). So his war with his alter-ego, teh Troof, must be a left brainz-right brainz thinghy.

 
 

Can you imagine if someone had asked Katie Couric which newpapers she read? I bet she only reads half of them … or maybe a quarter of them.

(And when you read all of them, how can they expect you to remember the names too?)

 
 

That Pitch piece describes social night at the local asylum.

When the noise did break, Linda would lean to people sitting nearby and enlighten them with her views. The financial crisis was caused by loans forced on bankers as a method of economic affirmative action. Openly gay people violate her constitutional right to privacy. The September 11 attacks were God’s will. Nuclear holocaust could be part of the divine plan, and you don’t fight the divine plan.

“I was in a chat room yesterday explaining how I’d just learned the definition of the word holocaust,” she told me. “It’s a burning sacrifice to God, where none of the rabbis get the meat; it just goes straight to Him. That’s what they call everything that happened during World War II, a holocaust.”

McCain’s campaign offices seem to be gathering places for people who normally stand on street corners shouting “God hates fags.”

 
 

True, Lesley. Definitely worth reading the rest of that Pitch piece for quotes like this:

“Just a couple of days ago I had some guy tell me,” Brian lowered his voice, “he wasn’t going to vote for a half-breed Muslim. There are some crazy people out there, but you can’t convince them otherwise.”

 
 

Another telling photo “Taken exactly 72 hours before the polls close in Florida’s Panhandle, the McCain-Palin Victory Center in Santa Rosa Beach:”

 
 

The election night parties on the McCain side are going to be as quiet as some of these campaign offices.

No champagne, tubs of Xanax.

 
 

Sam Morse: Wait a minute, wait a minute. I’m allowed ten words, right?”
Aide: Yes, Mr. Bell. but if you could hurry along, the press is waiting…”
Morse: ‘what hath god wrought’, that’s only four.
Aide: I suppose. Listen, Mr. Bell, we really don’t have time…
Morse: I got it, I got it.
*he scribbles”
Morse: There! “What hath God wrought, please advise soonest, sincerely yours, Sam Morse.”
Aide: Fine.
*Telegraph tapping*
Fin

 
 

It’s worth reading page 2 of that Pitch piece.

I love how he gets all concerned about the whisper tactics. Talk about clueless. “Sure, buddy, all these years it’s been the Democrats who make shit up.” Where the hell has this clown been?

 
 

* Our field organization has tremendous energy and is out-performing the Bush campaign at the same time in 2004.

This is no doubt because of the recent increase in the chocolate ration. A round of Victory Gin for everyone!

 
 

FUCK! >< I kept getting Alexander Graham Bell and Sam Morse confused when I stoel that. Goddammit. This is your fault, Atlas Jugs!

 
 

Bill Maher does an amusing recap of the election campaign about two minutes, 25 seconds in.

 
 

McCain must be banking on the robocalls.

At this point, they seem to be banking purely on delusions.

Just a few years ago, the Republicans were seen as incomparably more effective political campaigners than the Democrats. How the mighty have fallen.

 
 

Well, the Pubs sure aren’t targeting well. They must have bank to burn, because I just saw an anti-Obama ad on my local TV station. I live in San Francisco. Talk about the last place for an effective return on investment. Lol.

It was a pretty nasty ad, too. All “Wright hates Whitey!”

Bleah.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

It looks like the Iraqi people have a far different view on this election than you liberals.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081030170209.3wcxfwin&show_article=1

 
 

FUCK! >< I kept getting Alexander Graham Bell and Sam Morse confused when I stoel that. Goddammit. This is your fault, Atlas Jugs!

This is no doubt because of the recent increase in the gin ration…

 
Rugged in Montana
 

I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.

http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/081003_ep_2pp.pdf

 
 

If you get out there, what you will see is a great effort going on. It is exhilarating just to see and be part of the activity that makes our government system so great: people participating in the great experiment called democracy.

Oh God. I just had an image of some fresh-faced College Republican bopping into his local McPOW campaign center and being greeted by two cranky old codgers who shout at him to get offa their lawn.

“Taken exactly 72 hours before the polls close in Florida’s Panhandle, the McCain-Palin Victory Center in Santa Rosa Beach:”

Heh. I see that’s in Walton County. “Goodnight John Boy!”

 
 

At this point, they seem to be banking purely on delusions.

“Well, we’re coming down to the wire America, and before that final B has been carved into our faces, let’s remember the man John McCain chose to elevate as the everyman representation of all of us. Joe the Plumber, who dared to speak delusions to power, and spoke for the millions of voices …in his head. A man that is proof that there is nothing more powerful than an idea, a really stupid idea. Like the government taking away money you don’t have but might if you got a job, which you won’t.” – Bill Maher

 
 

Oh man, Troy, OH is gonna take this hard.

 
 

you know, i really don’t give a fuck which direction “members of the military” are voting. i think they have a job that is well below the following on the “i respect your work rung”: social workers, public school teachers, NASA scientists, advocates for the poor and homeless, new technology gurus, greenhouse and climate scientists, nobel prize winners, public defense lawyers, parole officers, community organizers, doctors, organic farmers, police officers, firemen, AND SO ON.

this whole extra respect that i’m supposed to give to clergy and to people in the military is bullshit. they’re just people doing a job. it’s a tough job, i get it, but they don’t get any privilege viz their political views.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Robert, you liberals should have thought of that before you decided to oppose the war on terrorism. Now the people who are actually fighting in this war on terrorism say that they want a President who will continue to fight this war. Shouldn’t their opinions be taken into account? They are the ones doing the actual fighting, are they not?

 
 

“From mid-1943 to March 10, 1946, forty of Troy’s teenage girls, their mothers, and volunteers operated a totally free canteen service for troops on the platform of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad station. For three years during World War II, and with support and donations from Miami County communities and six additional counties, thousands of food baskets and countless drinks were given to at least 600,000 soldiers at trackside.

From the Troy, OH link above.

JiSM3 was 10 when they quit this.

 
 

I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.

No, but maybe the military personnel would like to see a poll of who the president wants for liberals?

Why would I care who the army wants for president? Usually when the army starts picking the head of state that’s a very BAAAD thing for a countries future.

 
 

<blockquote<Rugged in Montana said,
November 2, 2008 at 6:52

I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.

I think you might like to see a poll of who the citizens of this country would like for President.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

 
 

That came out all wrong.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.

Damn you, namestealer, get yerself another tag or you’ll be banned like every other namestealer here! How about “WOLVERINE!!!!”?

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Isn’t the military mostly Brown these days?

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13669.html#comment-715956

In lieu of past statements, how can it matter what they think?

 
 

i knew it wasn’t you rugged, don’t worry. thus i didn’t call you out by name.

by the way, the “people who are fighting the war on terrorism” are in the FBI, the CIA, the state department, the NGOs, and so on. you fucking asshole shithead. the military is the last resort, not the first, and to use it any other way is to endanger us all. so go fuck off you fucking ignorant moran, and give that fucking handle back to the guy who had it first.

the next coherent thought you have will be your first.

 
 

I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.

I think the President might like to see a personnel of who the liberals would poll for the military!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

We need a President with strong national security credentials to protect our nation and western civilization from the Russian-Chinese-Islamic alliance of convenience that now exists in Asia and the Middle East and is spreading into Latin America with their support of the leftist govenments of Venezuela and Brazil. The Russian Navy is actually planning a joint naval exercise with Venezuela which goes against the Monroe Doctrine. If I where President, I would warn Russia that any Russian warships operating in the Western Hemisphere would be considered an act of war, and that America would respond militarily against any Russian fleet in our hemisphere.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

“Sheesh said,

November 2, 2008 at 7:24”

Sorry buddy, those comments weren’t mine. You liberals lose again, as always. Those were from that leftist imposter trying to discredit me.

 
 

If I where President, I would warn Russia that any Russian warships operating in the Western Hemisphere would be considered an act of war, and that America would respond militarily against any Russian fleet in our hemisphere.

If I were Russian I would consider any act of war an american response to the president of the western hemisphere. But what’s that got to do with the price of tea in china you ignoramus?

 
Rugged in Montana
 

” knew it wasn’t you rugged, don’t worry. thus i didn’t call you out by name.

by the way, the “people who are fighting the war on terrorism” are in the FBI, the CIA, the state department, the NGOs, and so on. you fucking asshole shithead. the military is the last resort, not the first, and to use it any other way is to endanger us all. so go fuck off you fucking ignorant moran, and give that fucking handle back to the guy who had it first.”

Robert, buddy, you obviously haven’t been around this site for long. I am the old guard Rugged in Montana. Then one of you liberals decided to do a parody of me, and turn me into an homosexual faggot who doesn’t even know the difference between a battle rifle and a battle carbine.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

The false leftist Marxist discreditofascist forgets that I, as always, love to eat farts.

 
 

turn me into an homosexual

only homos use “an” before a word beginning with “h”

 
 

Shouldn’t their opinions be taken into account?

They are. They get exactly as many votes per person as the rest of us: One.

 
 

“a homosexual faggot” you mean, rather than the other kind of homosexual? or the other type of stick-bundle.

i’m sorry your service to our country didn’t change your status as a delusional shitheel with less brains than the shit i just flushed down the toilet, but them’s the breaks.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

I’m so confused! Is this comment also a fabrication?

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13687.html#comment-715968

How can I tell if anything on the Internets is real or not?!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Lefties are always trying to claim that conservatives are violent, radical, and dangerous based on things like non-existent people supposedly shouting “kill him” at a McCain rally.

Meanwhile, one of the bloggers over at the Huffington Post just killed her roommate by stabbing her to death 222 times with a screw driver,

“Carol Anne Burger killed her former lover by stabbing her 222 times with a Phillips-head screwdriver and then took pains to hide her crime, police said Wednesday.

Jessica Kalish, who shared a house with Burger despite breaking up with her more than a year ago, was found last Thursday stuffed in the backseat of her gun-metal BMW sedan, abandoned behind a medical office at 2300 S. Congress Avenue. Her blood was splashed around the rear end and undercarriage of the car, as if her killer had tried to load her into the trunk. The driver-side window was shattered.

…Burger, a 57-year-old writer, did yoga, had a fondness for Shark Week on the Discovery Channel and preferred to watch musicals in theaters with Dolby Sound. She recently stopped drinking coffee. She thought Jackson Browne’s For a Dancer was good to listen to when you were sad, and she refused to take anti-depressants despite her relationship problems with Kalish.

Their situation really was a bad one, friends said, but for financial reasons Burger and Kalish had continued to share the house they’d bought together in 2000.

Burger, who on Oct. 7 was tapped to cover the election for the Web site, The Huffington Post, still sometimes felt sad and isolated. Kalish, whom Burger had married in Massachusetts in 2005, had met another woman.

…As investigators studied the case, several telltale signs, including the ferocity and personal nature of the attack, pointed to Burger, they said.

But before they could question her, Burger walked out into her back yard, pressed a gun up under her chin and pulled the trigger, police said. Detectives found her body there last Thursday but couldn’t locate a suicide note.”

Now, if I were a lefty, I would go back through Burger’s writing looking for some article that showed her condemning violence, so that I could then claim that she was a hypocrite for murdering her roommate. After all, as all lefties errantly know, being a hypocrite is actually worse than doing something horrible.

Also, intriguingly the only thing I can find at the Huffington Post about one of their writers murdering someone is a tribute piece from the 25th that was obviously written before they knew she went psycho squared on her roommate. So, no explanation, no “Burger was a complex person” piece from Arianna, no tribute to victim.

Typical leftwing values, don’t you just love it?

 
 

Hey Rugged,

I can’t tell if your post from 7:41 above is a programmaticly generated fabrication or not. Could you at least help me out with a link or citation? What sites on the Internets can I trust?!

 
 

Lefties are always trying to claim that conservatives are violent, radical, and dangerous based on things like non-existent people supposedly shouting “kill him” at a McCain rally. blowing up the Oklahoma city federal building.

Fixed.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

And here you thought I wasn’t going to provide a link.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2008/10/29/1029bbdeaths.html

 
 

Anyone else freaking bored to tears with Rugged? I can’t even focus on the post any more, my eyes just frost over and drift off as soon as I see the name. Blah blahy blah blah take that liberals bwahaha blah blah blah.

New troll please, k thanks bye.

 
 

So when the NCO who helped smear Beauchamp gets convicted of war crimes, we can chalk that up to typical right wing values, right? Or is he a complex person, too?

 
 

yeah, this one’s lame

 
 

The enthusiasm and excitement we generate on Monday will be the electricity that powers our “Get Out the Vote” efforts on Tuesday.

Electricity? I think Monday’s excitement is more like the spermaceti that powers the “Get Out the Vote” lantern.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Whew, thanks for the link to the paper! This is a site I can trust right? I feel pretty bad for both of these old lesbians. Is that OK?

“It’s horrendous,” she said, “what human beings are capable of doing to each other.”

So true.

 
Rugged In Montana
 

Wait until the Obamamessiah gets us stuck in a REAL quagmire. you’ll wish you’d listened then.

 
 

NEXT!

 
 

The fact is, we’re about to travel back in time one hour!!

 
 

Rugged in Montana is please to continue commenting on own blog in space?

kthx

 
Rugged in Montana
 

With the growing threat posed to our national security from nations like Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela and Brazil, do you really want a naive utopian socialist like Obama as Commander in Chief?

 
 

With the growing threat posed to our national security from nations like Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela and Brazil, do you really want a naive utopian socialist like Obama as Commander in Chief?

Better than the dim-witted hockey dog who sees Putin peering over her house while she’s on the phone with that Mavericky Maverick of France Sarkosy. You betcha!

 
 

I’d rather a naive utopian socialist then a confused old man who thinks China and Brazil share a boarder.

Wait, Brazil?

Fucking BRAZIL?!

Check your talking points, yo. Brazil scares me about as much as Jamaica or Monaco does.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Yes; because I’m not a bed-wetter. Here’s some candy for you (that’s kind of related to the Pammy thread earlier): http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001828.html

 
 

rugged is one of McCain’s robotypers.

 
 

They told us that they would take us to a place where there was maize and they led us to their village, at the end of the bay nearby, and there they showed us some that was not yet fit to be gathered. There we found many boxes for merchandise from Castilla. In every one of them was a corpse covered with painted deer hides. The commissary thought this to be some idolatrous practice, so he burnt the boxes with the corpses. We also found pieces of linen and cloth, and feather head dresses that seemed to be from New Spain, and samples of gold.

Cabeza De Vaca
(1542)

Only 394 years before M3 was born.

 
 

I swear i closed that.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Actual, Russia is helping the Chavez supporting government of Brazil, develop weapons grade uranium and nuclear power. Which is another violation of the Monroe Doctrine by the way. I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia and China used Brazil as a nuclear base the same way the Russians used Cuba during the Cold War.

 
 

Cachaça for our samba footballing overlords!

 
 

If only there was some kind of pig in Cuba we could have invaded to keep the Russians at bay!!

 
 

Staggering amount of wrongs, not the least of which that the Monroe Doctrine is not international law. Ugh.

Want better troll. This one is used up.

 
 

Whites and Wal-Mart women give John McCain hope

The comments at the end of the article are awesome:

This white woman (Army Vet) has voted for Obama. The Wal-Mart store employees are idiots to vote for McCain as he voted against min wage increase & equal pay for women. I guess these McCain shoppers who shop at Walmart don’t give a damn about underage overworked humans making products out of USA.

Brenda, Charles Town, USA
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I am an older Wal-Mart, white, married woman solidly behind Obama. So is my husband, also white and a wal-Mart shopper. I don’t know where you get these figures. Many of my friends and women where my husband works (all Wal-Mart gals) are solidly behind Senator Obama. He is a far better candidate.

Carol , Benton, United States

 
Rugged in Montana
 

If World War III ever breaks out, It’ll probably be something like this. On one side you’ll have the Western Alliance: The United States, Great Britain, Israel, Canada, Australia ect. You know, the good guys. On the other side you’ll have the Russian-Chinese-Islamic alliance of conveinience, with Russia’s socialist allies in Latin America providing bases for them.

I would be one hell of a war, lasting many years and costing millions of lives on both sides. But, in the end, with God on our side, I think the good guys like always will eventually prevail. But not before there is untold destruction unlike the world has ever seen. Which is why we need a strong conservative President like McCain, who will take a hard line and prevent this sort of thing from happening in the first place. McCain is a type of Winston Churchill and Obama is a type of Neville Chamberlin. Guess which one would be better suited to handle the above scenario?

 
 

Guess which one would be better suited to handle the above scenario?

The one without PTSD?

 
 

“McCain is a type of Winston Churchill and Obama is a type of Neville Chamberlin. Guess which one would be better suited to handle the above scenario?”

McCain is no Churchill. He’s not even fit to smoke Churchill’s cigars and drink Churchill’s whiskey.

 
 

bahaha
Palin declared last week: “I truly believe that the wisdom of the people will be revealed on [polling] day.”

 
 

“On the other side you’ll have the Russian-Chinese-Islamic alliance of conveinience”

Kinda like the USA/British/Soviet alliance in WWII? Took make no mention that McChill won’t live to see day one of the war you jerk-off over anyways.

 
 

Is Rugged in Montana now a parody of a parody troll? Or some kind of Möbius loop recursive pathway from troll to parody and back again? To find out, would we somehow end up killing him off, like Schroedinger’s Troll?

 
 

McCain is no Churchill.

Palin / McCain = Church / Ill.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

What’s cool though, about this scenario that you paint, is that the war will only be fought by foreigners (brits, jews, aussies) and brown people against other foreigners and brown people. Real Americans, won’t be eligible as they’ll all be too fat and/or frail to serve, due mostly to being raised by Real Americans in Bush’s America.

 
 

FlipYrWhig
It’d be just like Back to the Future, and we’d all end up in 1955 playing Earth Angle with a bunch of coloreds at Small Town High School, while wearing parka vests and listening to Micheal Jackson.
So, yeah, I’m totally on board with this plan.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Ironically those Brits, Jews, and Aussies are all socialists. Ha!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

“Real Americans, won’t be eligible as they’ll all be too fat and/or frail to serve, due mostly to being raised by Real Americans in Bush’s America.”

For some reason, that doesn’t make any sense to me. Would you care to elaborate on that please?

 
 

This passage got me:

“I always thought of Blue Springs as pretty upscale,” Mary said, making conversation. “But some of the people that came in for the primaries, I’d look at them and think, Are you really from here? Are you sure you live here? I guess they did, but they sure didn’t look like it.”

Why? Because in the next line, she clearly states what she means by people not looking “upscale”

“There were a lot of African-Americans.”

After moving to Texas and soliciting some help from some distant elderly relatives regarding neighborhoods I should look into, I learned that they too had a very specific meaning for the word “upscale”. The term had no correlation with quality, price, value or any other definition one might associate with the word. It simply meant, “no black people.”

They also used the descriptor, “first class” in the same exact way. A restaurant could serve you the worst food ever, but if black people didn’t eat there, they’d say it was a “first class” (or “upscale”) restaurant.

When I was in another room and they thought that their liberal house guest couldn’t hear, they resorted to simply using the word “colored”. Once or twice they slipped in my presence, but attempted to make their remarks more PC for my liberal sensibilities, resulting in the horrible phrase of “black colored” people.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Oh sure! In Real America we can’t afford high nutrition food, and it’s not sold at the gas station in town any way. You see, most of us are poor. Anyhow, this leads to one of two possible outcomes: undernourishment, and its attendant frailty and medical problems or instead satiation on affordable low-nutrition foods; some times rich people calls these ‘junk’ foods. Subsisting on ‘junk’ food makes you fat and brings a different set of medical problems. Lose-lose.

All of these problems would go away if Dad could work 40 hours a week, and Mom could stay home and take care of us, with good home cooked meals from affordable fruits and vegetables. I hear this is what the good old days where like.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

“When I was in another room and they thought that their liberal house guest couldn’t hear, they resorted to simply using the word “colored”. Once or twice they slipped in my presence, but attempted to make their remarks more PC for my liberal sensibilities, resulting in the horrible phrase of “black colored” people.”

ROFLOL! That was hilarious! I wish I was there, I would have laughed my ass off. I’m not racist, but I despise political correctness. If ever met that elderly couple, I’d buy them a drink. They sound like, well, normal people.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

You might wonder why this isn’t a problem for the brown people — they all grew up working in fields in Mexico where vegetables are dirt cheap and dirty.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

You mean they sound like “normal [bigotted] people.” It’s cool, I know that nobody wants to be around things that aren’t their own kind.

 
 

@ Nylund: Interesting about “upscale.” From watching altogether too much HGTV, it seems to me that some realtors use the phrase “emerging neighborhood” to mean that black people still live there for now, but fewer than there used to be.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Those illegal aliens should all be rounded up and deported. They don’t belong in this country. If you want to come here, get in line at your American embassy and do it legally like everyone else. If you don’t feel like it, too fucking bad, you don’t have a right to be here in the first place. American citizenship for the foreign born is a privledge, not a right. Legal immigration needs to be fixed too. American should only take immigrants that will better our nation, such as doctors, scientists and engineers. We should never, under any circumstances take in those who are poor, uneducated, diseased, from nations that sponser terrorism don’t speak english, or have a criminal record.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Is it OK if they come here to fight in our Army?

 
Rugged in Montana
 

If they truly love America, and are fluent in english, then I MIGHT be willing to make an exception.

 
 

What’s this ‘WE’ shit Kimo sabe?

 
 

I think “Rugged in Montana” might find this quote from the Military Times interesting:

Thompson, who has deployed to Iraq and Germany in support of war-zone operations, said he was a longtime fan of McCain but was drawn to Obama for being “the guy talking the toughest on terror.”

“He took a lot of heat for trying to refocus where the war on terror should be, and yet look at where we are now,” Thompson said. “We’re setting timelines in Iraq, we’re trying to get more resources in Afghanistan and we’re conducting more and more missions in Pakistan.”

The clincher, he said, was retired Gen. Colin Powell’s endorsement of the Illinois senator Oct. 19.

“For him to come out and say this is somebody ready to do this job made me feel a lot more comfortable with my choice,” Thompson said.

The military has a deep GOP tradition and the military is not one to buck tradition, and given that, its actually pretty amazing how much less support McCain is getting from the military than Bush got in 2004.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

“Nylund said,

November 2, 2008 at 9:06”

You didn’t read the poll, son, did ya?

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Was this poll or a similar one conducted in 2004? What were the results at that time? What about in 2000 before we were attacked?

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Well, you know, I didn’t look that far back. Wanna know why? Because, its irrelevent. Bush won large majorities of military veterans in both elecions. I don’t have to look at a poll to tell you that. And McCain is also winning a overwhelming majority of military veterans. When you include the entire military, officers and enlisted, active duty and reserve, all branches, McCain wins by 68%. This breaks down into 67% enlisted personnel, and 70% officers. In the different branches it breaks down into 68% army, 69% navy, 67% air force, and 75% marine corps. When you break it down into age groups its, 65% among ages 18-34, and 70% among those 35 and up. When you break it down into active duty and reserve, it breaks down into 67% active duty, 71% reserve/guard. Any way you try and spin it, McCain wins by a overwhelming majority in all of the military “groups”.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Nylund’s point was that McCain’s support among the brown infantry is lower than Bush’s support — which is weird considering how traditionally the Services go GOP. One of two things here, either the Armed Services are now too water down with brown people or McCain just isn’t popular with the dudes getting killed for us.

 
 

The funny thing is the “illegal alien” crowd is also, “I’d rather die than pay taxes” crowd. Do they think we can round up and remove 12 million people at NO COST.

12 million people is the equivalent of EVERY person in the following states combined:

Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, and Vermont.

That is like deporting every single person from 12 of our 50 states.

So, let me ask you this Mr. Ruggled, how much of a tax hike are you willing to accept to pay for this? Deporting 12 states worth of people isn’t going to be cheap considering it takes billions to evacuate a small town.

How many thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of layers, INS agents, court officials, etc. would we have to hire? How many trucks, detention centers, guards, etc. would we need to transport and house 12 million people? Thats like 15 San Franciscos.

And if you started to do this, do you think those 12 million people would just sit around peacefully waiting? What sort of trouble do you think 12 million people could cause in this country? You’d probably agree that everyone in Montana could cause quite a mess if they started a revolt. We are talking about 12 Montana’s worth of people.

Have you actually thought about this at all?!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

I would willingly sell my Cattle Ranching Business to the federal government if it meant permenately getting rid of those twelve million illegal aliens. So to answer your question, I’d be willing to pay whatever it takes to permenately get rid of those illegal aliens. Rounding up and deporting the illegals (otherwise known as enforcing the law) is a far better use of our tax dollars than the welfare services and medical fees for the same illegal aliens.

 
 

We should never, under any circumstances take in those who are poor, uneducated, diseased,

Ooops, good thing we don’t have a Time Machine. There go Rugged’s ancestors.

 
 

Hey g,

Maybe his weren’t the poor, uneducated, or diseased, but were instead just the, “tired, […] poor, […] huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse […], the homeless, tempest-tost […]”

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Or are you in fact, an American native or some other brown aborigine?

 
Rugged in Montana
 

I’m of Scottish descent, if you must know.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

So I guess your people steamed over as one of the huddled masses yearning to breathe free? Or did they sail over and ‘illegally emigrate‘, if you catch my meaning?

 
 

“Have you actually thought about this at all?!”

Sadly, no. Obviously, offering the proceeds from the sale of Rugged’s admitted inheritance is a plausible solution for funding such a Herculean undertaking. Evidence, once again, that not having to work for what you possess renders said possessions expendable. Especially when dealing in hypothetical abstractions. In the medium of an internet comments field, tambien.

Unless, that is, by “thought” you meant the regurgitation of talk radio bullet points. By this metric, Rugged is fucking Descartes!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

The Scots came here legally of course, as citizens of the British Empire, which ruled the American colonies in those days. Read up on your American history.

 
 

Hey Rugged,

Sounds like you meant “read up on Royal history.”

Under whose framework is colonization legal? Well the colonizers’ of course. This means that all property obtained by colonization is obtained by violence. That’s not very Rugged or libertarian to just take from others what you can hold by force. Fortunately, large tracts of the U.S. were purchased by contract, fairly and righteously after the founding of our Nation.

My ancestors came over from London after the War; who could blame them? That place was a bombed-out shit-hole and Michigan was a Utopian fantasy by comparison.

 
 

If World War III ever breaks out, It’ll probably be something like this. On one side you’ll have the Western Alliance: The United States, Great Britain, Israel, Canada, Australia ect. You know, the good guys. On the other side you’ll have the Russian-Chinese-Islamic alliance of conveinience, with Russia’s socialist allies in Latin America providing bases for them.

How Russia will end up an ally of Islam when its spent the past three decades fighting Islamists in Afghanistan and Cechnya (amongst other places) is beyond me. Also, why the UK would fight its major supplier of energy is also beyond me. Or Australia one of its major trading partners.

Sorry, Rugged. The world map is changing and its centered on the old trading routes in Eurasia rather than the increasingly irrelevant US.

Which is another violation of the Monroe Doctrine by the way.

Since when has the Monroe Doctrine been carved-in-stone policy? Also, does this mean that if America can defend its sphere of influence, then you have no problem with Russia protecting its interests in South Ossetia?

 
 

Hey Percy,

You make a very good point inre Russia’s sphere of influence! Those are their minorities to rule.

 
 

Shorter “Rugged” (by the way, anyone else see the ‘I wish ah knew how to quit you..’ in this handle… just sayin’):

If this puddle of warm pee I’m standing in doesn’t scare you, just wait and see how big it gets after Obama becomes President…

 
 

Maybe his weren’t the poor, uneducated, or diseased, but were instead just the, “tired, […] poor, […] huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse […], the homeless, tempest-tost […]“

Ooops, sorry, I guess I forgot to flip on the toggle switch lighting up my “sarcasm on” light.

Cuz – actually, what you say is true, too, of the people Rugged was referring to as being poor, uneducated and diseased.

 
 

The Scots came here legally of course, as citizens of the British Empire,

Actually, many Scots came here in the 18th century via Ulster, Ireland, because they’d been driven out of Scotland by the British, after the Uprisings, because of their religion and their politics. They were political refugees from the Empire. And they came “legally” in the sense that there were no immigration laws, so pretty much everyone who came here was “legal.”

 
 

Rugged, your “poll” of who the military support has some slight flaws”

1) It’s not a poll of the military, it’s a poll of subscribers and former subscribers to Military Times.

2) It’s a self-selected group; MT contacted these people and told them to call in if they wanted to be polled, so it’s as worthwhile as any internet “voluntary” poll

3) “The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services.”

So it’s basically a poll that shows older white middle/upper-middle class males who like John McCain. Wow!!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Oh crap. I forgot to take my meds again, didn’t I? Dr. Moskowitz told me things like this could happen, particularly right befor the election (stress, and all)….I blacked out for a few hours and I come back to find the thread above!

It’s the “Bruce the Hairdresser” segment of my split personality, and he’s a live one, as you can see. The Doc says he’s jealous of me, so he’s always trying to “one up” me. I have a single old cow that I take care of, so he calls himself a “cattle rancher”. I’ve got $97.00 in my bank account, so he tells everybody that he’s “wealthy”. I’m 5’6″, so he tells everybody that he’s 6′ tall and lifts weights (a rancher needs to lift weights?). It’s not so bad when he does this online (after all, nobody can see him, right?) but when he pulls this stuff with my neighbors and fellow employees, he makes me look like a damned fool. Try to imagine what it’s like to come back to yourself after the idiot in your head has been telling the people standing around you that you’re 6′ tall and musclebound, when you clearly aren’t. Awk-ward!

So, anyway, here he is again, making trouble for me. When he’s running the ship, so to speak, he refuses to take “our” meds because he disappears and he wants a life as much as I do. It’s a dilemma folks…I can only hope you’ll bear with me while I try to *disappear* him with pharmaceutical help. Thanks, DEMONcraps!

 
 

That Military Times poll is completely unscientific and therefore meaningless as the results are NOT representative of any population. Only “subscribers and former subscribers … who gave the papers their e-mail addresses” were invited to take the poll, and “only those who received an invitation could respond.”

The results are “based on responses from those who chose to participate.”

“The voluntary nature of the survey could affect the results…. Characteristics of Military Times readers may also affect the results…. [J]unior enlisted troops, women and racial and ethnic minorities made up a smaller share of the sample than of the military at large.”

This survey (and I hesitate to even call it that) tells us nothing about who the military wants for president. It doesn’t even tell us who subscribers to the Military Times want for president. It’s as accurate and predictive as closing your eyes and throwing a dart at pictures of Obama and McCain on a wall. But Faux News made a big deal of it, so wingnuts believe it’s true.

Perhaps Rugged in Montana should be renames Rigged in Montana.

 
 

One more thing

“Army Times Publishing Company … was purchased by the Gannett Company in August 1997. It publishes four weekly newspapers aimed at current and former U.S. military personnel, collectively called the Military Times Media Group: Army Times (founded 1940), Navy Times (founded 1951), Air Force Times (founded 1947), and Marine Corps Times.”

 
 

You make a very good point inre Russia’s sphere of influence! Those are their minorities to rule.

I believe it is difficult to argue that America has the right to enforce something as illiberal and imperialist as the Monroe Doctrine and then turn around and claim that Russia should keep out of US meddling in Georgia.

What am I saying? It’s not difficult at all. You just require a mind that cannot see the inherent contradiction!

 
 

Just apropos of Rugged, there was a comment in a previous post to the effect that Rugged In Montana is some sort of programmed group entity devised as an experiment in social interaction – that is, a buncha profs want to see us engaging with a robot. Just FYI.

Anyway, I loved this:
American should only take immigrants that will better our nation, such as doctors, scientists and engineers. We should never, under any circumstances take in those who are poor, uneducated, diseased, from nations that sponser terrorism don’t speak english, or have a criminal record.

What this says to me is “Oh, please, let furriners come and take over all the well-paying professions, and we’ll flip the burgers!”. What the buggeryfuck? Sometimes I fear that people who express these opinions, be they professorial robots or no, just don’t think things through.

Oh, and ‘nations that sponser (sic) terrorism’ includes the US, right at the head. Just sayin’. Chile, Nicaragua, and El Salvador, among others, can provide more detail on that.

Also, I’m not sure why English-speaking folks would *want* to live in the US. It paints a funny picture – a doctor or engineer from an English-speaking country who really wants to emigrate to the US. Why?

 
 

Hey g,

Ooops, sorry, I guess I forgot to flip on the toggle switch lighting up my “irony on” light.

Or is that even ironic? I’ve been playing dumb all night and can’t even recall at this point.

And Percy,

American Exceptionalism is K-Rad!

 
 

So I could probly lift a free laptop from the Republican place?

If you want a sweet Pentium II that’s running Windows 95.

 
 

I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.
In homage to that Brecht poem that someone posted the other day (was it DoctorB?), about a democratic government electing a new population more in keeping with its wishes, I can barely wait for RiM* to tell us who the military personnel would like for a US electorate.

* The slimy troll one, not the funny one.

 
 

Also, I’m not sure why English-speaking folks would *want* to live in the US. It paints a funny picture – a doctor or engineer from an English-speaking country who really wants to emigrate to the US. Why?

As an Englishman who has traveled the States extensively, I always garnered double-takes from Americans when I stated I was not interested in living in the US. There was a basic assumption that life in America was irresistible, as if Britain was still living in an era of ’50s rationing and austerity that we were desperate to escape from.

However, at the end of the day I feel far more free in my country than yours. (In particular, free of the pernicious influence of religion on politics and society.) And I certainly feel safer, both in terms of security and social safety net. If I had to move to another nation, it would probably be a civilized country such as France or Holland.

 
 

there was a comment in a previous post to the effect that Rugged In Montana is some sort of programmed group entity devised as an experiment in social interaction – that is, a buncha profs want to see us engaging with a robot.
I vaguely recall seeing the same comment in some other context — it might have been Crooked Timber? — and someone has done a global replace to splice in RiM’s name. If only enough of my neurons were left to retrieve full details. If only there were an internet service that systematically searched and indexed the entire web and allowed me to try various keyword combinations.

 
 

It doesn’t get more absurd than this: Republicans asking other Republicans and McCain supporters to leave McCain rallies because they don’t look like they belong. One woman who’d already voted for McCain was escorted out of a rally for sitting and waiting for it to start. Her crime? A youthful appearance.

 
 

Hey Clyde,

But I linked to that very post at 7:40 in this very thread! (Scroll up Alison).

There, I’ve saved the Great Gazoogle a fraction of a cent on a query!

 
 

Hey Lesley,

Man, it’s so great that the RNC has basically written off everyone in the country under 30. At this point their sojourn is all but assured.

 
 

Is anyone else starting to think that McCain is deliberately trying to throw the fight?

 
Rugged in Montana
 

It’s incredible – people are still responding to my arguments!

Even when I claimed that the Venezuelan-Brazilian alliance was a threat to US national security!

Even when I said Barack Obama was a utopian socialist!

Even when I outlined a scenario for World War III between nuclear powers and confidently predicted our side would win (by using our super-duper anti- nuclear bomb defense of course! Russian ICBMs don’t stand a chance! They’ll just bounce off the rugged Montana hillsides)…

Pay attention to me, you libs! Pay attention! I have loads more paranoid and ignorant fantasies of Latin aggression, Marxists is the Democratic Party and victorious mass death against the Russkies where they came from!

 
 

Why would they possibly want to do that? Gracious me, imagine how bitter, angry and violent those rabid, gun-clingin’ Palin crowds could potentially become if it somehow appeared that Obama had won the election by the narrowest of margins, buoyed by ostensible voter fraud and etc…

 
 

To Rugged and the rest of these republicans who always invoke Churchill as the great leader of WWII: I believe history shows that Churchill’s Great Britain wasn’t doing so well until it got a little help from a liberal socialist democratic U. S. president.

 
 

What about Irkutsk, where will they be in this alliance, when Venezuela links with Brazil and China? Sounds like an all-night marathon game of Risk to me.

 
 

” . . . if World War III ever breaks out . . . I[t] would be one hell of a war, lasting many years and costing millions of lives on both sides. But, in the end, with God on our side, I think the good guys like always will eventually prevail.”

If WW III ever “breaks out” between the “sides” as proposed, it would be Hell. Period. Full stop. It would last a few hours and cost billions of lives. After which, there won’t be any “sides”. Won’t be no “good guys” or bad guys to eventually prevail. There will only be dead guys and very-shortly-to-be-dead guys.

BTW – God doesn’t give a flying fuck.

 
 

Those poor conservative fools. The 1% own this world. They’re not going to invade each other’s tax base, they’re just going to go under new management.

 
Rugged in Montana
 

I believe history shows that Churchill’s Great Britain wasn’t doing so well until it got a little help from a liberal socialist democratic U. S. president.

You can believe what you want, you libs.

I believe that Neville Chamberlain, the leader of the British Conservative Party, was a naive utopian socialist like Obama, you libs.

I believe that in 1940 the Republican Party was just itching to intervene in Europe to stop Hitler. Every day the Republican Party was saying “We must join and revitalise the League of Nations! Why won’t Roosevelt declare war already! Why are liberals so unwilling to protect democracy in Europe!”

That is exactly what they said. That’s why Winston Churchill spent the 1944 election saying, “I really hope those stalwart, Churchillian Republicans beat the weak Obama-like appeaser, Franklin Roosevelt”.

Also – interesting fact! Did you know that conservative singers like Ted Nugent in the 1930s used to write ‘This machine kills fascists” on their guitars?

Hollywood liberals like Woody Guthrie instead put “Let’s surrender to Hitler and his Muslim armies now” on theirs.

Bet you didn’t know all that.

You libs.

 
Smiling Mortician
 

Um. Anybody notice that apparently Rick Davis can’t count to 14? I mean, that might explain just a thing or two about the total clusterfuck that is the McCampaign.

Sorry to go on-topic. I know y’all were having fun with the ugly new troll.

BTW, if this RiM goes away and the funny one comes back, somebody tell me so I can take him out of my kill-file, ‘K?

 
 

The mere mention of the name Rashid Khalidi by Bible Spice brings howls and boos from the Aryan hordes at her rallies.

Tolerant bunch.

-GSD

 
 

So much time spent obsessing over some unscientific poll of military personnel. Who the hell cares? I’ve got a poll for you–it’s going to be conducted on November 4th, it’s got a margin of error of 0%, and its results are binding for at least 4 years. I myself am going to enjoy the fuck out of it.

 
 

Is anyone else starting to think that McCain is deliberately trying to throw the fight?

Among McCain’s minions I don’t see that at all; in fact, very, very far from it. I see vast amounts of Republican incompetence in this campaign, but I also see a very desperate will to win and to hold onto power. And that’s a large part of why they’re so inept – their inability to deal with the prospect of defeat has pushed them into political loonyland.

Palin and some of her supporters are another matter. She’s an idiot, but she’s pretty clearly less interested in supporting McCain’s doomed campaign than she is in positioning herself to run in 2012.

BTW, if this RiM goes away and the funny one comes back, somebody tell me so I can take him out of my kill-file, ‘K?

Yep. It’s time for the latest RiM to start getting hungry for some nice, tasty pie.

 
 

Would the real Rugged in Montana please stand up?

And then leave the room? You’re shitting on the carpet again.

The parody troll is awesome. And shame on “real” Rugged – if you’ve truly been a lurker here, you’d know that we steal names of trolls – hence our discussions on “real” Gary versus “fake” Gary, in case that was totally lost on you. (Almost makes me wonder if Rugged is just one person pretending to be two people…) Also, as a lurker, you would know that the Sadly, No! Management Team will take your complaint and “file” it in an “undisclosed location”.

I would laugh, however, if the Rugged bot turned out to be the parody troll.

 
 

I would be one hell of a war, lasting many years and costing millions of lives on both sides.
———-

We’re all sure you would. Oh look. It’s time for your pill now.

 
 

Palin in 2012?!?
My God my fellow LIBS, whatever will we do?!?
She’ll certainly usher in yet another era of Permanent Republican Control.

This time it will last the 1000 years they were promised!
‘fer sure!’

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

…a doctor or engineer from an English-speaking country who really wants to emigrate to the US. Why?

Surely there are English-speaking people from other countries who want to work under a government that requires that their research prove, along with whatever else it’s supposedly about, that Jesus owned a dinosaur saddle.

Then there are the sane ones like Percyprune, who I assume represents the majority.

 
 

Why won’t the L. A. News release their videotapes of Obama appearing with Muslim radical writer Omar Khayyam?

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

Why won’t the L. A. News release their videotapes of Obama appearing with Muslim radical writer Omar Khayyam?

I heard it’s a really damning tape, showing Obama snorting coke on the poop deck of Omar’s ruby yacht.

 
 

Palin in 2012?!?

The base loves her – at least for now – but I can’t believe that the Republican Party powerbrokers would allow a hapless bonehead like her to get the nomination. She openly wants it, though. She’s a very ambitious nitwit.

 
 

Maybe our own dear Rugged will slightly alter his ‘nym, since I too have killfiled it since the boring brainless one showed. Rigid in Montana, perhaps, to remind us, gently but firmly, of his fully erect battle rifle?

 
 

Hey Buggered in Montana, You should put down the crack pipe and allow what little brain you have left a chance to rest.

 
 

Since is a good word, dammit.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

I can’t believe that the Republican Party powerbrokers would allow a hapless bonehead like her to get the nomination.

I agree. Sure, the current occupant of the Oval Office is a hapless bonehead, but one with the right family connections.

I sort of half-expect Palin and all her little rabid puppy-dog followers to form a third party. Not join an existing one, because Bible Spice’s ego would require that it be something entirely new and about her.

 
 

So I could probly lift a free laptop from the Republican place?

If you want a sweet Pentium II that’s running Windows 95.

More like C64 with GEOS. Republican laps will fit it and the CRT though, they run fairly large.

 
 

“I’ve Got a Crush on My V.P.”
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpESyx58qmA&feature=related

With lines like,

“I’d probably drink Alaskan crude
If somehow I could be First Dude
Or just like Todd or God
I could see her in the nude”

it’s an instant classic.

Good grief. How dumb ARE these people?

 
 

We should never, under any circumstances take in those who are poor, uneducated, diseased, from nations that sponser terrorism don’t speak english, or have a criminal record.

*ahem*

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land,
Here at our sea-washed, sunset- gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome, her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin-cities frame.

“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she,
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore;
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

 
 

I haven’t read all 150 comments, but am I the only one quoting this from WaPo:

“There is no balance in the facts.”

Badda-boom, badda-bing, betty-boop. Nuff said.

 
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig
 

> I thought you liberals might like to see a poll of who our military personnel would like for President.

Don’t be worried, S,N!-ers.

If this is like any of the other polls “proving” that the military favors McPOW, it is just a poll of OFFICERS. (I’m too lzy to download a pdf and search it)

In fact, all the polls I’ve seen of the military just poll the officers.

Remember, if it seems like a repig has a “leg up” on something, there is almost always some lie or caveat involved.

repigs NEVER win on the facts.

 
 

The “colportage phenomenon of space” is the flâneur’s basic experience. Inasmuch as this phenomenon also—from another angle—shows itself in the mid-ninetenth-century interior, it may not be amiss to suppose that the heyday of flânerie occur in this same period. Thanks to this phenomenon, everything potentially taking place in this one single room is perceived simultaneously. The space winks at the flâneur: What do you think may have gone on here? Of course, it has yet to be explained how this phenomenon is associated with colportage.

From Walter Benjamin’s The Arcades Project, pp. 418-419.

Today, the wingnutophere winks at the wingnut watcher.

 
 

The base loves her – at least for now – but I can’t believe that the Republican Party powerbrokers would allow a hapless bonehead like her to get the nomination.

As noted, the Republican Party powerbrokers have no issue with a hapless bonehead getting the nomination, in fact, that’s their preference (see Bush, GW and Reagan, Ronald) – but it has to be their hapless bonehead, a hapless bonehead they can be assured will do nothing but carry the water they’re told to carry. Bible Spice, by breaking out the long knives against her sponsor before the election even rolled around, has demonstrated that she’s not a reliable water-carrier. Hoist on her own petard (or should that be “retard”?), as it were.

 
 

wingnutosphere

 
 

I see the 2016 Retardlican nomination of Sarah Palin and raise them Carenna Gore Schiff.

 
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig
 

> Just apropos of Rugged, there was a comment in a previous post to the effect that Rugged In Montana is some sort of programmed group entity devised as an experiment in social interaction – that is, a buncha profs want to see us engaging with a robot. Just FYI.

People have been claiming especially-stupid posters are just AI projects since I was using USENET back in 1986.

 
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig
 

> If you want a sweet Pentium II that’s running Windows 95.

A PII can’t run W95. It will just sit at the boot up screen because the situation is like trying to move a 1964 Cadillac with the engine from a Suzuki RAV.

 
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig
 

Oops, meant to say

“misfiring Toyata RAV”

 
 

Remember, if it seems like a repig has a “leg up” on something, there is almost always some lie or caveat involved.

Or “urine” and “the Constitution”.

 
Drugged in Montana
 

Hollywood liberals like Woody Harrelson put “let’s surrender to Obama and his zombie horde” on their sexual organs to defeat Ted Nugent and Winston Churchill. Libs. Libs. Lib-er-als. Wow. Libs. You ever just listen to that word? Like repeat it over and over until it loses all meaning? Liiiiiibs. Llllibs. Huh. Cool. Pass the bong.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

Like repeat it over and over until it loses all meaning?

I haven’t, but Rush Limbaugh has.

 
 

So wait, does that mean McCain and Palin won’t even spend election day hanging out together?
If they’re going to Arizona and Alaska at the end of Monday, they’ll be pretty damn far apart.
Such confidence in their chances, awesome.

 
 

Why won’t the L. A. News release their videotapes of Obama appearing with Muslim radical writer Omar Khayyam?

I heard it’s a really damning tape, showing Obama snorting coke on the poop deck of Omar’s ruby yacht.

No, actually, I believe they’re just sharing a loaf of bread and a jug of wine.

Oh, and “thou”

 
 

Sung to the tune of “Secret Lovers” by Atlantic Starr:

Secret Moooooooooooooooooslim, yeah
That’s what he is
Tryin’ so hard to hide the way he feeeeeeeeeeels

You know he belongs to someone else
And he can’t let go
‘Cause what he feels, is that Allah is reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllllll…

 
 

According to the McCain campaign’s calendar of events, Palin’s last scheduled appearance will be Monday night in Elko, Nevada. McCain’s will be at midnight in Prescott, Arizona, with Cindy McCain and without his running mate. If Palin has something planned in Alaska, the official campaign calendar isn’t promoting it.

 
 

But the Rick Davis memo above says she ends up by going back to Alaska, J–. Biden, in contrast, is going to Chicago to be with his running mate election night.

 
 

Oh, I don’t doubt she’s going to Alaska. I was just impressed the campaign’s calendar makes no mention of an official campaign event for her there.

 
 

Though, of course, given the time it would take to get from Nevada to Alaska, any event for Palin would have to happen the next day, Election Day. But maybe she’s going up there just to give Putin the ole “I see you, Putin, so don’t think of rearing your head in our airspace,” and then she’ll quick hop back on a plane and fly down to Arizona to be with her soul mate at his ranch/retreat/mansion/maverick shack in Sedona to celebrate their come-from-behind victory on Tuesday night.

 
 

Is anyone else starting to think that McCain is deliberately trying to throw the fight?

Damn straight – I was pretty convinced that he was actively taking a dive well before he picked Lady Nutbar of Batshitshire (Shortest Political Honeymoon EVAR!) for a running-mate … & all those totally moronic faces he made throughout the length of ALL his debates with Obama tend to seal the deal for me.

Or am I really supposed to believe that a guy with more than 25 years in politics (& a LOT of election wins under his belt) is gonna make this many fuckups in a row, when he’s supposedly in the fight of his life?

Yeah, sure. Why on Earth WOULD’NT he want an astronomical debt & deficit, a steadily deteriorating economy, a failing war in Afghanistan & a Made-In-Iraq time-bomb – all c/o his own party?

All it’s gonna take is for someone who isn’t supposed to see it to leak a “stay at home” memo to his GOTV people on Tuesday, & he’s a dead man walking … if any such exposure rips the “Rock-em Sock-em Maverick” mask off that poor old clown, all the bile & hatred the psycho-GOP-supremacist demographic has aimed at Obama will be as a gentle zephyr to THAT shitstorm.

 
 

As noted, the Republican Party powerbrokers have no issue with a hapless bonehead getting the nomination, in fact, that’s their preference (see Bush, GW and Reagan, Ronald)…

It’s true they like ’em dumb, but not this dumb. Palin’s level of ignorance and ineptitude exceeds even W’s – by quite a bit, I think.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

It’s true they like ‘em dumb, but not this dumb.

I’ll concede that, but I still think she’d be in with a chance if she had the right pedigree.

 
 

Palin will fly home to Wasilla to vote. McCain will go to Prescott to pretend to be Barry Goldwater.

 
 

People have been claiming especially-stupid posters are just AI projects since I was using USENET back in 1986.
My Total Internet-tradition Awareness program.
Let me show it to you.

 
 

My Total Internet-tradition Awareness program.
Let me show it to you.

That’s not supposed to be receiving funding anymore!

 
 

Typical Republican quoted in the article: “If they asked Katie Couric any of those questions, she wouldn’t know. Nobody knows that stuff.”

Or in plain English: Nobody who’d vote Republican knows anything about anything. We Republicans admire ignorance.

 
 

My Traditions. Let me show you them.

 
 

What jim said.

 
 

What Percyprune said. And RiG’s handlers need to reprog his Brit 20th c history bits too. Then I’d marry him and bring him back to Limeyland. So long as he can handle a 240V conversion job.

 
 

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