Kaye Grogan on Newsweek
You just knew she’d come through:
The “feeble” attempt by Newsweek Magazine to retract the extensively damaging article where the Koran Bible was (supposedly) flushed down a toilet by American prison guards, is like trying to pour spilled ink back into the bottle.
Or in Kaye’s case, rubber cement- why bottle it up when you can huff, HUFF, HUFF!!!
First of all, I don’t think a book can be flushed down a toilet ? unless the book is torn into single pages. Try flushing a book down a toilet and see how far it goes. So, just a little ounce of common sense would have been all was necessary to question the authenticity of this “outrageous” claim.
And every time some high school student complains to their teacher that bullies flushed their head down the toilet, the teacher should immediately dismiss their claims, since everyone knows toilets are too big to fit a whole human head.
This is why they pay Kaye the big bucks.
Too many “unsubstantiated” reported articles are making their way out into public, and there needs to be accountability pronto! Trying to make the mud slung at walls stick with outlandish claims and attacks by disgruntled “sore losers” might be considered childish ? if not so dangerous.
I think someone needs to give Kaye a lesson on how to use “quotation marks” “sarcastically.”
Not only was the Newsweek article claiming the Koran Bible was flushed down a toilet inside a detention holding place for Muslim terrorists “misleading” ? the report could be viewed as “un-American.”
If you do the right amounts of mescaline and peyote, sure.
In case anyone is not familiar with the definition of un-American: not in accordance with American characteristics; US, chiefly historical against the interests of the US and therefore treasonable.
Printing bad stuff about the government is now “un-American.” I’m sure the Founding Fathers would be proud.
Now I know that President Bush is usually to blame for everything including the stumping of someone’s big toe, but it is really beyond absurd to blame the Bush Administration for the now infamous Koran story in Newsweek.
Of course, if the story had been true (and it probably is, since much worse things have happened in U.S. interrogation facilities), the Bush Administration would take none of the blame for the riots in Afghanistan.
Sorry, but ” political correctness” is not going to suffice for something so detrimental to the well-being of Americans this time. You’ll have to go and bark up another tree.
Woof.
Sure there are many who question the reasons we are in Iraq, but every other invasion in the past has been criticized and questioned too.
The bottom line: don’t ever question why your country goes to war.
War is never pretty, and expecting peace is going to prevail, bringing about harmony is about as logical as trying to capture smoke in your hands. We can’t reach common ground here in our own country ? much less in other countries.
So war it is- 24 hours a day, seven days a week! In fact, let’s shred all those peace treaties we signed with Germany and Japan, since “bringing about harmony is as illogical as trying to capture smoke in your hands.” Hell, the Germans could use a good bombing or two- it might get them to stop being decadent goat-fuckers like Seb.
After CBS ran the uncorroborated “bogus” story about President Bush’s service in the National Guard ? you would expect that printed media would have learned a valuable lesson by now.
Which is to never criticize the president.
But evidently, Newsweek wanted their heads on the chopping block too. And Dan Rather did win a “Peabody Award” for the story reported by him on “60 Minutes II” of the “Abuse at Abu Gharib.” This story also sparked a repulsive anti-American explosion heard throughout the world.
And therefore, it should never have been reported. In fact, the only news that should ever be reported about the Bush Administration is happy, smiley-face news that doesn’t commit treason by asking tough questions. And while we’re at it, let’s replace CBS’ entire reporting staff with the Teletubbies:
“Welcome to CBS Evening News. I’m Tinky-Winky. Today, George W. Bush hugged five puppies. Again! Again!”
I didn’t actually see the report of Abu Gharib prisoner abuse reported by Dan Rather, because I stopped watching the news and one-way slanted stories on 60 Minutes on CBS years ago. But I bet Rather was salivating at the mouth like a lot of other left-wingers who thought they had President Bush hogtied waiting to drag him out of the White House, kicking and screaming after the 2004 presidential election.
It woulda been nice, I gotta admit. Of course, I hated Bush long before Abu “Gharib.” The massive deficits and shitty energy policies were enough to do the trick.
I am still at a loss trying to figure out how terrorists who are being detained in prisons for the horrific role they played in the 9/11 “senseless” brutal attack, have so many rights here in America. How the leaders and judges in the United States have gotten so far off of course in interpreting the US Constitution is incongruous and pathetic.
In case anyone has forgotten: convicted criminals and war prisoners don’t have any rights beyond being provided the following essentials: food, water, and a place to sleep.
All together now: “Sadly, No!”
Having said that ? I don’t believe anyone should be subjected to sexual abuse of any degree no matter where the alleged abuse is taking place.
Darn. I was hoping you could come over to my place and give me some much-needed punishment later in the week…
The repercussions and fallout associated with explosive “untrue” stories published by print media or reported on television, can only incite and exasperate our enemies ? which in turn will endanger American lives to a much higher degree.
So anything that exasperates our enemies puts American lives in danger. And since nothing exasperates our enemies (or puts American lives in danger) like the war in Iraq, I think Kaye might have a point.
Evidently, the people involved with bringing out stories that perhaps can be looked upon as aiding and abetting our enemies ? believe they are immune to terrorist attacks or biological weapons. I am sure no one in their wildest imagination thought two powerfully built twin towers could be reduced to rubble either.
“To all the reporters who wrote critical pieces on the President’s tax cuts right before 9-11, I point a finger in their face and say: you helped this happen!”
I would hope that everyone who claims to love America, will take a long look at the role they are playing ? and if they are instrumental in bringing about ill will and destructive behavior, hopefully, they will see the need to begin to build new bridges of love and will do their part in tearing down the erosive… bridges of hate.
Since “erosive” bridges will by definition collapse on their own, why waste our time tearing them apart?
And that’s just my education!
“I am sure no one in their wildest imagination thought two powerfully built twin towers could be reduced to rubble either.”
Actually, since the 1993 attack on the Twin Towers, whenever I looked at the buildings, I predicted another attack which would destroy them.
I’m not alone in being able to predict that there would be a second attack.
Nor in predicting that if they put another building on the site, there will be a third attack.
It would appear that the walls of Kaye’s colon are tightening, thus narrowing her viewpoint and lessening the amount of semi-breathable air available to her impacted head. Are we sure that she isn’t part of a mental health program that provides a creative outlet for the deranged? It would explain quite a bit.
Every time I read a Kate Grogan piece, I’m always wowed by how the powerful synergy of crazy and stupid really is.
First of all, I don’t think a book can be flushed down a toilet ? unless the book is torn into single pages.
Um, which is probably what they did? So close but so far. Also, why does she keep calling it the Koran Bible?
Oops. That was me.
Is the Koran Bible like the Jewish Pope?
OK, just to clear it up for you guys:
Kaye’s “Koran Bible” is the book read by Pastor Swank’s “killers international” and/or “murderers global.”
Make sense now?
And what the hell is she going on about regarding the “Koran Bible”? It’s the Koran or Qur’an or however you want to spell it. You don’t tack “Bible” onto that; it is a separate item, even if they do share certain original texts and characters. Would she say “the Torah Bible” or “the Upanishad Bible”?
Sorry. Just caught up.
You all think you’re such “smarty pants”.
Well when the terrorists come for you who’ll be “laughing” out of both sides of your head then? President Bush isn’t “laughing” I can tell you. He’s “standing tall” and being positive and loving America and it’s deep core-like values.
He holds his Bible tight to his breasts in these scary overcast cloudy days with the terrorists and their threats.
you know, most of the quotation marks in that piece were exactly where I thought they should be.
Trying to make the mud slung at walls stick with outlandish claims and attacks…
Now I know where the Mars Volta get their lyrics: Kaye Grogan articles.
Hemlock-
Have you heard Weezer’s latest album? It’s CRAAAAAAAP!!!
I’m not sure what the Koran Bible is. I better look it up in my dictionary thesaurus.
i can’t even get past her creative punctuation to read the content; i’ve never seen, so many, commas in one piece of, prose.
The “Koran Bible” is the holy book of the infidels who worship the “Allah God”.
I like to buy my Koran Bibles on the way to the Mecca Vatican.
No one has alleged that the Koran was “flushed” down the toilet, because as far as I know the celss at Guantanamo are provided with a “toilet bucket”.
But I can’t remember for sure where I’ve read this, and maybe the SouthCom report doesn’t use the term “toilet bucket” but uses “shit can” instead in which case the incident hasn’t happened. That’s philosophical, you know.
I wonder if somewhere in the Middle East if there is an equally dumb writer who says Christians read the “Bible Koran”???
Sheesh. You guys all beat me to it. But I’m still going to ask: What kind of psychiatrist surgeon would it be that uses the Koran Bible on those awful Muslim Jewish christians? Why can’t they accept Buddha Jesus as their God?
So anything that exasperates our enemies puts American lives in danger. And since nothing exasperates our enemies (or puts American lives in danger) like the war in Iraq, I think Kaye might have a point.
I would respectfully disagree. Using that logic, the Unelected Drunken Cokeheaded Deserter should – well, let’s hear it straight from the horse’s mouth (so to speak):
I would hope that everyone who claims to love America, will take a long look at the role they are playing ? and if they are instrumental in bringing about ill will and destructive behavior, hopefully, they will see the need to begin to build new bridges of love and will do their part in tearing down the erosive… bridges of hate.
Looked in any mirrors lately, Kay?
This column is so sad and willfully delusional that even Brad’s genius almost can’t make it worthwhile. At least if she were primarily saying that destroying the Koran was defensible, it would be horrible and wrong but logically consistent. Instead, she just tacks that on as a “by the way” and has her main argument that printing anything bad about the government is treason. Sad.
Looked in any mirrors lately, Kay?
Judging from the picture at the top, I’m going with “Sadly, No”.
I agree re: Rubber Cement. Or as Kaye calls it, Holy Jesus Snot.
VV, don’t you mean Holy Muhammad-Jesus Snot?
Holy Maimonides-Jesus snot . . .
Most of the other RW writers I see quoted here are liars, but this woman is just plain STUPID. Dumb as a bag of hammers. Not only stupid but flaming stupid! Who the hell ever picked her to write anyway?? This isn’t scraping the botom of the barrel: they’ve gone through the bottom, through the concrete floor under the barrel, and into the dirt below. yegods.
Ok, done now.
Hey Kaye, do you “do” that “finger thing” when you speak in quotes? We should “do” beers “together!”
The mole rats of simile are yodeling again.
tearing down the erosive… bridges of hate.
Erosive bridges. Erosive bridges. Erosive bridges.
Must remember to turn off poetry center of brain before reading Kaye.
When the charges against you are serious enough, they don’t have to give you a trial! It’s in the Ten Commandments section of the Constitution, and trying to deny that is like trying to pour Kaye into her still-unused prom dress.
Who the hell ever picked her to write anyway??
If I understand the way Renew America works, the site doesn’t actually have any editors. No editors implies no editorial decisions (beyond “we will post only batshit-crazy right-wing screeds), like who gets a column. So it’s completely possible that Kaye picked herself to write a column and just keeps sending them in.
There’s a Dylan song about Kaye Grogan, did you know that? It’s called Idiot Wind; as in – there’s an Idiot Wind blowing every time you move your teeth/you’re an idiot, babe, it’s a wonder you can even feed yourself…..
And one more thing, would some one please find her writing device and remove the “damnable” “quotation” “marks?”
If saying bad things about the government is treason, as per K. Grogan, I’d be in prison already. But if people like her have their way, folks, anything anti-anything WILL be treason.