I Would Have Gone With ‘Peripatetic Porch Monkey’
Posted on August 31st, 2008 by D. Aristophanes
Rick Brookhiser on Teh Corner:
We have shown the same color-by-numbers mindset that liberals did when they rallied to Obama. Liberals love Obama because he is a Numinous Negro. Conservatives love Palin because she has a Downs baby and an M-16. For both sides, that is all on earth ye know and all ye need to know. You might call it mystical and childish.
H/t: Amy Alkon (ha!)
“Numinous Negro”?
Did he plagiarize Bill Buckley’s bong-hit diaries?
Of course, “History-nutjob Hack” flows nicely for Brookheiser.
Bewitching Booga?
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Teh Alkon:
I’ve seen it commented somewhere before: the Palin pick has probably made more McCain supporters want to sit out this election than people who were going to sit out this election become McCain supporters. It was a move that had far more risk than reward… sort of like placing a 1 to 3 bet with a small chance of winning.
BTW, you’re trying to “silence”
AndyAmy Alkon by linking to her site.McCain has managed to lose Amy Alkon!
As funny as that sounds, Alkon does provide an insight into the “libertarian-con” opinion of the selection of Mooseburgers Palin: McCain just lost them by pandering to “teh base”.
Heh indeedy-do!
Wait, we like Obama because he’s a magical black guy like Will Smith in The Legend of Bagger Vance or Denzel Washington in The Preacher’s Wife or Slimer in Ghostbusters?
Yes, there is nothing at stake in this election but symbolism.
Huh. I thought that I liked Obama because he is clearly the brightest person running from either party. Smarts don’t seem to be on Brookheiser’s list of qualifications, though.
But, but, but… Negroes are stupid! The Bell Curve proves it!
ya know, the friggin’ wingtards thought it was their right to insist John Edwards and Rielle Hunter’s baby take a DNA test, and he’s not even a candidate for anything. I think the story of the 43 year old mom covering for the daughter’s pregnancy (how very irish-1962 of her) is a nice story, highlighting her hypocrisy on ‘abstinence only sex education’ and just her general horseshittery. Let’s propose some DNA testing or “why not, what’s she trying to hide?” For those who find this too oogie or too mean, Trig will never know about the controversy.
You know another reason I have doubts about the whole Palin conspiracy? The number of “new” names popping singing about it.
bad person,
While we’re at it, I think we should be asking why the need for such cover in this day and age. Those DNA tests ought to include the First Dude as well, if ya know what I mean.
Hey, those rats ain’t gonna fuck themselves, now are they?
First it was “Noun+Verb+911”, then, “Noun+Verb+POW”, and now it’ll be “Noun+Verb+Downs Syndrome.” We’ll see how much mileage she/they get out of it
A). Unless she has a Class III collectors’ license, she does not have an M-16.
B). If she were carrying any sort of weapon, judging by this picture, I wouldn’t want to be in the same county.
C). Nobody who holds a rifle like that has a Class III license.
D). Wait. Obama’s black???
Palin because she has a Downs baby and an M-16.
Doesn’t seem she knows how to handle the M-16. At any rate, I wouldn’t want to be around when she’s holding one.
E) McCain was a POW?!
“A). Unless she has a Class III collectors’ license, she does not have an M-16.”
There is another possibilty: she has the rifle, but not the license. That could be fun.
BB: Say what? McCain was a POW? Damn our MSM — I had no idea!
Check the kerning on Pregnancygate. It has a huge stench of Rovian black ops. Better yet, just ignore it.
Y’know, DA, buried within the stupid, this guy is making an awfully important point. It is absolutely true that significant numbers of voters of both parties, perhaps a majority, make their decisions about who they are going to support based upon ridiculous, and frequently dubious facts about the personality of the candidate. At best, they are ideologically driven “single-issue” voters, people who would vote to elect hitler if he’d just ban abortion or lower taxes.
While people on blogs like this, who are politically aware, even if they are also quite ideologically driven, find this characterization insulting, it is a dangerous and frightening truth about our political process that needs to be discussed more, even by wingnut assholes…
mikey
Oh, the wingnuts always get in line in the end. Always. Amy Alkon will find some reason to vote for McCain. This is just a chance for her to flex her misogyny.
Yeah, but, unlike Barack Obama, Sarah Palin is the Commander of the Alaskan National Guard:
The Republicans truly are Uh-mazing.
Well, I give them credit — at least they aren’t like Democrats; rather than tripping all over themselves to dissociate from something which might make them nervous, they unite and plow ahead.
The other possibility is that it’s her husband who has the M-16 & class III license, but the media pundits give her the cred.
As I commented in another thread, I find it odd that she lived her whole life in areas where hunting is part of the culture, but she obviously can’t handle a rifle (in the picture that justme links, the stock is too far to the outside of her shoulder, and she’s trying to look through the scope without crouching her head down). Heck, I have a cousin in Montana who bagged a deer by herself when she was 14.
Look, she is a former beauty queen, ultra conservative, and a mother of 5. She probably has some VERY old fashioned ideas about gender roles. I am sure she really supports the MEN going out and spending all day in the snow, shooting at things, but she would never do something so uncomfortable and unladylike.
She probably thinks she doesn’t have to know how to hold an M-16 in the same way that redneck men think they don’t have to know how to work the washing machine.
Would it be irresponsible for us to demand release of the paternity test results for all five of the Palin children? It would be irresponsible not to.
Yeah! Don’t you people know you’re supposed to pick a president based on how much you’d like to have a beer with him?
Sheesh.
Wait a minute Timmeh, that makes you C-I-C of Minnesota’s National Guard. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess MN has a bigger NG thank AK’s. And you’ve been governor since 2003.
Makes McCain passing you over even more confounding, don’t you think?
hopefully at some point the democrats will point out that if Palin is way more experienced than obama because she is a governor and cic then she is also way more experienced than McCain.
POW POW KAPOW
She does have a baby, but did she give birth? There’s a real possibility that Bristol Palin gave birth to that baby.
“She’s the commander in chief of the national guard,” chimed in Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty. Adding, “Yah, that’s the ticket. C-in-C!, Yah, an Wing Commander of the Alaskan AIR National Guard, too.! Yeah!
oof
hopefully
Generally Comanders-in-Chief of the National Guard should never need to be adjusted, unless the Comander-in-Chief of the National Guard arm has been removed or tampered with. In the event that they do need adjusted, here is how to do it.
One of the most important parts of your engine is the engine Comander-in-Chief of the National Guard . An improperly adjusted Comander-in-Chief of the National Guard can shorten your engine’s life.
You should do an inspection of the Comander-in-Chief of the National Guard linkage and spring before trying to solve either of these problems.
I think you mean “Minnesota Comander-in-Chief of the National Guard Tim Pawlenty”.
Generally Commanders-in-Chief of the National Guard should never need to be adjusted, unless the Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard arm has been removed or tampered with. In the event that they do need adjusted, here is how to do it.
One of the most important parts of your engine is the engine Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard . An improperly adjusted Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard can shorten your engine’s life.
You should do an inspection of the Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard linkage and spring before trying to solve either of these problems.
I think you mean “Minnesota Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard Tim Pawlenty”.
Jebus, spellcheck tricked me somehow.
doesn’t the caption on the picture where she’s holding the m-16 say that its just a simulator? That’s why the soldier nest to her is smiling rather than running for cover. anyway, if ‘dna/down’ is just too cringy for you, having her being picketed by protestors in polar bear suits with signs saying “palin was to kill us because we’re in the way”. Its photogenic and it covers her global warming denial, and her being in the pocket of Big Oil and her pride in being a hunter. And after 10 speeches where she explains why its a good thing the polar bears are “removed” in order to drill for alaskan oil to sell to the japanese, she’s liable to say something truly wingnutty. And its non-sexist! That should make you happy, because all the billions of tax dollars wasted on ‘abstinence only sex education’, more than enough to rebuild New Orleans twiceover, should never be mentioned. Likewise the millions of single young women who’ve carried babies shouldn’t be reminded that Republicans think its shameful and not part of good American families. See, I can be constructive.
Doctorb. Sweetie. Um … Who the fuck are you talking to?
I’m just worried that it’s all a semiotic blancmange of post-structural teakettle barbecue hatstand fishmonger.
Some iReporter over at CNN hit the real reason why McCain picked Palin: Didn’t want to get CPR from Romney!
dcs–
That’s some juicy link. If Trig Palin was born in April, than that photo of Sarah Palin is supposed to represent a seven-months-pregnant woman. , it’s a pretty odd sort of pregnancy. This story gets weirder by the minute, and if you gave the DNC a sheet of butcher paper and a jumbo box of crayons and ask them to draw their fantasy of an opponent, they couldn’t do better than Sarah Palin.
What gets me about the pregnant Palin pictures is not just the lack of an obvious baby bump (jesus I hate that term but there it is) but also the lack of any apparent enlargement in the chestal area, if you know what I mean. You’d think that even with a pregnancy that doesn’t show (at all in these pictures, even not at all according to the flight attendant on the Alaska Air flight she took back while she was in labor) in the abdomen it would show somewhere. This one doesn’t show at all, not even in weight gain in the face or arms. Truly strange.
Lord, please don’t let “Who is Trig’s real Baby Mama?” ass-hattery infect Sadly No!
Thank you.
It’s easy to be racist, it’s really hard to trivialize Down syndrom.
Marco – this discussion has been going on all day. Sarah Palin may well be Trig’s real baby mama, but there are a lot of weird things about her whole story about flying back to Alaska after her water had broken – at the beginning of her 8th month. Then there’s this: here’s what she looked like during one of her previous pregnancies.
So “she’s one of those women who just never shows” doesn’t seem to fit.
I’m not one of the conspiracy people so I wouldn’t climb out on that limb and claim that it’s her daughter’s baby, but there’s definitely some weirdness in all of this – mostly in the notion that a woman in a high-risk pregnancy would take an 8 hour flight hours after her water broke. At the very least that raises questions about judgement.
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El Cid said,
August 31, 2008 at 20:48
Yeah, but, unlike Barack Obama, Sarah Palin is the Commander of the Alaskan National Guard:
Palin is talk of the Sunday news shows
By Martin Kady II, Politico.com
It was hard to keep track of how many Republicans on Sunday morning referred to Gov. Sarah Palin as “commander in chief” of the Alaska National Guard…
…Starting with McCain himself in an interview with Fox News Sunday, Republicans launched their defensive stand against criticisms that Palin is not ready to be “one heartbeat away” from the presidency.
“She’s been commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard. … She’s had judgment on these issues,” McCain said in his first nationally televised interview since his shocker VP pick in Dayton, Ohio on Friday. “She’s had 12 years of elected office experience, including traveling to Kuwait.”
And from McCain on down, Republicans were off and running with this message on the eve of the Republican National Convention.
“She’s been a governor, she’s been in charge of the National Guard. … That’s more than Obama,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham on ABC News’ This Week.
“She’s the commander in chief of the national guard,” chimed in Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who was on the VP shortlist, on “Meet the Press.”
The Republicans truly are Uh-mazing.
Well, I give them credit — at least they aren’t like Democrats; rather than tripping all over themselves to dissociate from something which might make them nervous, they unite and plow ahead.
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Among the Dim’s talking points in 1992 were that Bill Clinton was the C-in-C of the Arkansas National Guard, btw…
Marco–
As pointed out above, John Edwards had eat a yard of shit over the revelation that he stepped out with Rielle Hunter, and may have been her babydaddy. Now the GOP VP-presumptive is in the midst of her own weird mama drama. Responding to GOP ratfucking by taking the high road is merely stupid. The Dems have been given a very large gift, and would be stupid to throw it away just because you consider it ass-hattery. Do you think for a red-hot second that Karl Rove would side-step an opportunity like this?
Lord, are you listening? Lord? LORD!?!?
That’s some juicy link. If Trig Palin was born in April, than that photo of Sarah Palin is supposed to represent a seven-months-pregnant woman. , it’s a pretty odd sort of pregnancy. This story gets weirder by the minute,
Actually, it’s starting to make a ton of sense to me, finally.
Lessee, in 2004, the wingnut army starts challenging Kerry’s war record, claiming there’s a conspiracy to cover up Kerry’s misconduct. And when CBS uncovers what seems to be a discrepancy in Bush’s war record and a possible conspiracy to cover it up, it seems like silly “tit for tat”.
This time around, the wingnuts been inexplicably freaking out about Obama’s “forged” birth certificate, claiming there’s some kind of conspiracy to cover up…um…something about Obama’s birth. And no one seems to have any idea why they are doing it.
Suddenly, a story pops up that Palin’s youngest son may not be hers and that her last pregnancy was fake. If that’s true, then Palin and her doctor (at the very least) conspired to forge Trig’s birth certificate to cover up her daughter’s pregnancy. Hm. What are the odds?
Seriously, Rove is the master of “accuse your opponent of doing something before you get ratted out for doing that vary thing” politics.
(And the “issue” here isn’t “who are Trig’s parents” or “ZOMG! Her teenage daughter was pregnant!” The issue is “the governor headed a conspiracy to commit fraud by arranging a fake birth certificate.”)
The fact is, liberals, shut up.
The fact is, keep up the attacks, keep up the class war, keep up the hate. We’ll see how that works. I’ll be laughing at you all on November 5th as I salute the flag and our President- and VP-elect take control of our future and keep America safe. No liberal coup is gonna happen on my watch.
So for reasons I cannot even fathom myself, instead of stopping at my regular local elitist arugula emporium, I went instead to that mecca of mediocrity, the gigantic strip-mall Safeway in the heart of bustling Silicon Valley. Packed with screaming children and their angry parents, with nasty firm little tomatoes and corn that looked like it had been picked last year, I thought the final indignity would be the complete unavailability of ground lamb.
But then, in the checkout line, I saw it. For $4.95, “The Complete Idiot’s Guide to the Last Days; An Apocalyptic Look at the Future”. I read it again. The complete idiots guide to the last days. I set out to process that using rudimentary set theory.
My head exploded…
mikey
Little things again. Check out johnmccain.com and barackobama.com right now. One has “Gustav: How to Help” front and center; the other doesn’t.
I thought the rubbish about Obamas birth certificate was to cover up the fact the Mcain was not born a US citizen. As far as I can see, that is an undisputed fact, due to a legal anomaly at the time. But non the less, true, and nobody is making any fuss. Apparently that constitution which is sacred when it comes to the bits about guns, isn’t so sacred when it is just setting down rules for, you know.. Democracy and all that crap.
Rove is the master of “accuse your opponent of doing something before you get ratted out for doing that vary thing”
Um, yes. But I seriously doubt that Rove traveled up to Alaska to falsify the governor’s fifth child’s birth certificate in April.
This is all I’m going to say on Triggate:
There seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence with the public appearances, but that’s it: it’s just circumstantial. But at least it’s more plausible than thermite bringing down a skyscraper and a missile hitting the Pentagon instead of a plane full of people (ever ask a “truther” whatever happened to those people killed on that plane if it didn’t crash into the Pentagon? Hilarity ensues). If it is in fact true, I’m sure someone on the inside or a damning piece of evidence will pop up between now and Nov.
However, if nothing else surfaces about it, the fact that she gave a speech and then flew for eight hours while in labor is enough of a problem for her. While the media pundits are playing it off as being “cool”, “maverick”, “macho”, or whatever bullshit adjective du jour, it’s already got some pro-lifers disturbed:
I mean, it would have been far easier to find another unqualified Wing-nut woman for the pick.
No liberal coup is gonna happen on my watch.
Timmex? Seyko?
g said,
August 31, 2008 at 23:20
I mean, it would have been far easier to find another unqualified Wing-nut woman for the pick.
I’ll bet Michelle Bachman would have volunteered.
You’d think… Snowe, Hutchinson and Eliz. Dole come to mind. The ones who threw Palin’s name into the hat in the first place were pretty much the wingnut blogosphere, some of which we make fun of here on a day to day basis. Considering that we know how well they pay attention to important things, such as facts and due diligence, I’m not surprised that there are this many politically negative things floating around her. And so far it seems that about the only people really excited about her pick are those very same bloggers and the MSM pundits with their sheets of talking points.
so…who ended up in possession of Trig’s placenta?
I apologize for that one. In no way reflects on the management…
No liberal coup is gonna happen on my watch.
Wjich reminds me of a Martin Gardner joke.
Q: Who was the smallest person in the Old Testament?
A: Habbakuk, because he stood upon his watch.
Laugh, damn you.
The Obama birth certificate stuff is just loony. I’m not even sure exactly what their goal is with that, I’ve heard them suggest that it would prove Obama is not a native citizen, but that’s just bullshit because he was born in the United States to a mother who was a citizen. He’d be a citizen by either one of those metrics.
the eight hour flight doesn’t include the layover. let’s not start minimalizing the dirty facts yet. there’s nothing wrong with the daughter, folks, the charade is strictly for the benefit of grandma’s political image. Even grandpa would have been cooler than her. the bully of the PTA has to shut the fuck up about other people’s families, that’s our perspective. The republicans are the same people who ragged on amy carter for reading a book at the dinner table. amy was ten years old. rub some dirt in your wounded psyche and get with the program, snarkers.
To say nothing of John McCain’s joke about Chelsea Clinton being ugly as she was fathered by Janet Reno, or Rush Limbaugh’s televised joke about Chelsea being the new White House dog.
I really don’t wanna hear any whining about “leaving the kids out of it”. Now that fists are actually flying, the Repubs become devoted pacifists. Fuck a very large quantity of that.
Hmm. I’m not getting it. Not actually unusual, I suppose.
But it seems to me that those baying voices raised in the joy of the hunt, crying out for more of these intensely personal attacks as a course of action in a political campaign, wiping the foam off their lips as they stamp their feet and proclaim “Rove was Right, Rove is The Way!”, well, it seems to me those voices are ADVOCATING a course of action rather than TAKING a course of action.
So one kind of wonders. Trying to work up a convincing case for going Rovian? As people have pointed out to Brad a number of times, hey, do what you gotta do. No one’s stopping you.
But do me a favor and STOP trying to convince me that this is the right way to go. That way lies madness. It’s the same argument that leads to torture and murder in combat, it’s the same argument that leads the police to beat confessions out of suspects (hey, even so, we’re STILL better than they are), it’s the very thing I want my side to be better than.
And the fact is, we don’t need it. We’re winning this argument on the merits.
But hey, whatevs. If you want to find the most foul personal attacks you can and publicize them, again, nobody’s stopping you. Get a website. Raise some money and get a billboard. Get on TV or the Radio. If you believe it, do it.
But you are NOT going to successfully convince me it’s the right strategy, or that it’s even remotely justified…
mikey
What a sad way to deal with a family trauma.
mikey – I agree. I just find the whole baby thing pretty stinky. I’m curious about it – not eager to try to make it into a campaign issue.
I firmly believe that if something is true, there is nothing wrong with shouting it as loud as you like.
I hate Rove because he is a LIAR. He makes things up, and pretends they are true. I don’t care that he makes personal attacks against people. After all, in politics, the personal is the public. These elected officials have huge amounts of power over us. The public has a right to kick the tyres and check the brakes.
Exposing real skeletons is a good thing. Lying about skeletons is a very bad thing. Lying in general isn’t something I want to see in politics. Transparency and voter awareness, I DO want to see.
PLEASE lay off Palin. She’s a sweet kid, a great point guard and can make baby formula is 5 seconds with her eyes closed while shooting a moose with her baby pink AK47. She a great gal, who might not even get arrested in her “Troopergate,” “abuse of power,” ethics problem. In addition, the “city” er “town” er “whatever” she was the “Mayor” of should be out from under the $20,000,000.00 debt she left them holding. Hey, what $3,000.000 debt for every man, woman and child – by Republican standards – it’s practically a gift!
She is so far outside the mainstream that her abilities and or the lack of them is just not an issue. She’s a Creationist, anti-choice dinosaur EVEN in the cases of rape, incest and when the mother could die! In fact she’s even against birth control – even against condom use by married couples.
The ONLY issue about her is, “How on earth could 4 time cancer survivor John McCain have so little judgment as to think, even for a split second, that this woman was qualified to be a heatbeat away from being AMERICA’S President.
John – you’re not a “Maverick” you’re a “Buffoon.”
Mikey, the problem is this: We’re in a fight with people who have no compunctions about getting extremely nasty. If you find yourself embroiled in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a razor, your ability to fight him off using only your bare hands and your skills and your rightness may well carry you through the fray–but in the heat of the moment, it’s ill-advised not to respond in kind. I am not convinced that we are winning the argument–polls aren’t showing McCain down in flames yet, as they should–so taking it on the chin and soaking up Rovian punishment might not be a winning strategy. If winning this election is important–and I would say that it is–then meeting swift-boating with swift-boating is a reasonable strategy. That differs from “winning at all costs” and torture of suspects in that it it merely dishing back at an opponent what that opponent is dishing out at you. Counter-smear isn’t pretty, but we’re past the point of worrying about that.
Then it seems to me, Mr. Puppet #47, that you need to find a document, or find somebody credible to come forward and go on the record. Because right now, you are no different from Rove, or even worse, from Ace of Spades.
You are reading tea leaves in the “kerning” of a photograph and a time line.
Ok. If the photo and the timeline have made you suspect something, go investigate. Hell, even that embarrassing wackjob Ace at least calls people, writes emails, tries to get an answer. You are merely speculating, and that’s sick, dishonest and unfair.
It’s Rove’s game. And you’re playing it. If you want to be one of these folks, you gotta decide WHICH of these folks you want to be…
mikey
Doc. I’ve been convinced to stop going back to the well of vietnam and the lessons learned. Too many people have suggested it became a blunt instrument, and then a non sequitor.
But let me just say that your argument is wrong. You are holding up an apple, and describing a watermelon.
Yes, in a fight for survival you do not eschew the required level of force.
But in that same fight, when that guy pulls a razor, do you grab his daughter or wife and put a broken bottle to her throat? Why not?
It’s because there’s little point in winning if by doing so you become something you despise.
I learned this lesson by doing unspeakable things as a mere child. I learned how you can justify one thing, then something worse, until you find yourself shooting prisoners because you don’t want to be bothered taking them back to battalion.
Once again, mi amigo, I challenge you. Take the actions you advocate, and get in the game. Get your hands dirty. Otherwise, what exactly is the point?
mikey
Oops.
Or maybe not oops. Maybe it’s a maverick’s privilege to flip and flop.
Anyone see the picture of Palin’s parents at home watching her acceptance speech? On the walls in the background are more animal heads, skins, skulls, and carcasses than you might find in many a museum of natural history. That family has cut quite the swath through Alaskan wildlife.
The fact is, any criticism of McCain and Palin only makes Obama look bad. Your boy is going down.
One of teh reasons I am not voting for him (and millions of Americans will not either) is that he is black. You say that is racist. No more racist than voting FOR him just because he is black. YOU think we should be ordered to vote for him to promote harmony, by we will NOT be ordered, especially here in the Heartland. We do not have to vote for an Islamist Marxist Socialist Liberals just because he is black.
so…who ended up
in possession offrying Trig’s placenta with some pepper and onion, then serving it all on a fresh Kaiser roll?…taking it on the chin and soaking up Rovian punishment might not be a winning strategy.
Not exactly the same thing as arguing the merits, which is what Mikey is advocating – and which, I agree with him, is working.
Wait.. What is wrong with speculation? The things causing me to be suspicious are there for anyone to see, not just me. The swiftboat thing was completely pulled out of Roves arse. I am simply drawing the obvious conclusion from publicly available scraps of information, and being completely upfront about the quality of the evidence I have. I am not relying on the testimony of people with axes to grind, or anything that could be biased one way or the other.
I am not encouraging the spreading of the interpretation I find to be most politically beneficial. What I want to spread is the evidence that lead me to my conclusions. So that other people can decide what they want, and understand there is a real controversy here. It isn’t manufactured, this is a real possibility, and a real political issue if it is true.
I don’t want to lie, or need to lie. I want to inform. I honestly believe that the more informed voters are, the more liberal they will vote. That is the virtue of liberal policies. They are “reality based” as they say. Or to put it another way.. not just a pack of fucking lies like the right wingers will sell you.
I would like to get to the bottom of this question. I really don’t want to see a woman (already of undoubtedly questionable ethics) with this hanging over her as the “leader of the free world”. That is what is at stake. The leadership of a dying, angry, unstable superpower. There is little I can do to investigate directly. Informing people of the story until someone comes forwards with some more evidence may be the best I can manage.
Billmon anticipates a post-Gustav, post-GOP convention media feeding frenzy way up north—over the trooper program related firing activities.
I do not feel in any danger of overstepping my personal ethical boundaries, because I am still well inside them, even working to further those aims.
What DO I stand for? I stand for as much transparency in government as possible. I want to know the truth about candidates and political issues, and I want EVERYONE to know the truth, or at least be always moving closer to it. Truth with a capital T will probably always evade us, but I want the world and I to always move closer to it.
I want an informed electorate. I want people to know about stuff, and make informed decisions. I want people to know about the scandals, the law breaking and the dirty back room deals, and all the horrible things politicians do.
To me, telling the truth is the required level of force.
Let’s see. We’ve got “Troopergate”. And we’ve got “Babygate”.
One is a classic case of abuse of power, documented and documentable, something that reflects on the the political wherewithal and temperment of the candidate, and one, which, represented by speculation about pictures and an incomplete timeline, is entirely personal.
Which shall we choose to pursue? Which have an actual bearing on the ability of the candidate to govern? Which are felonious by their very nature?
Guess it’s decision time for all you wannabe Roves out there…
mikey
Well, you’ve gotta admit, this bimbo would still be an improvement over Darth Cheney.
Just sayin’.
Right on. At least Mylegacy knows how to stay on message!
@mikey
I’m just a lurker, but I just want to say that I find your comments always very insightful and well thought out.
Now, back to the snark.
OT – did anyone watch Obama and Biden on 60 Minutes? Smart, articulate, senses of humor, deft ability to get points across. Human beings who are good at thinking! Imagine that! Imagine, if you will, once again having a president who is not an idiot! If they lose this election to McGrampy and Mommy Dearest then the American electorate is a ass.
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I think it safe to say the folks at CIG have jumped the nurse, mako, lemon, tiger, great white and whale shark.
*This link will take you to a nice normal webpage with more info about the book. I don’t recommend following the links to the author’s website, especially if you know anything about webpage design.
What? covering up her daughters pregnancy, OR being hugely irresponsible with the well-being of her own child, is only a personal thing? Hell no. It really does reflect on her temperament and ability to govern just as much as the “troopergate” thing. Also, she has admitted to committing a crime by boarding a plane whilst 8 months pregnant. She has admitted to doing something which goes against the “pro-life” principles she supposedly holds. Abortion is bad, but taking a flight for no good reason that could well kill the unborn child is okay?
And of course, if the daughter story is true, then she is also guilty of hypocrisy, and some serious crimes too. Falsifying records has got to be a serious crime.
“babygate” presents us with two possibilities, both of which seriously bring into question her suitability to govern. That makes it worth investigation, because either way…
Which story do we pursue? All of them of course. We can’t be blamed if the MSM decides to run with just one of them though, and I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out which one has the most tabloid appeal. “Troopergate” is boring, and honestly, quite small potatoes by the standards of the last 8 years.
Which shall we choose to pursue?
It’s a no-brainer, no? It’s not like we have to cast about or desperately grasp for something. What Palin has done and said in her run for the governorship and in her capacity as governor appears to provide sufficient material to dismantle this image the McCain campaign has tried to impose of both McCain and Palin as reform-minded, independent actors and thinkers who are committed to honesty, transparency, and integrity in government.
For those who find this too oogie or too mean, Trig will never know about the controversy.
I don’t think you know much about Down Syndrome.
The “not going to miss a speech” line is pretty damning.
Sort of makes her sound like she’s a political schemer.
You know, the kind that the GOP has spent decades accusing Sen. Clinton of being.
Imagine the hue and cry if it had been known that Hillary Clinton had been jet setting around the nation while carrying a special needs child.
Just imagine.
I take it we won’t hear Clifford May claiming to be a ‘vaginal American’ in solidarity with Sarah Palin either.
Nor will we hear Glenn Beck bemoaning the high pitched tone of Palin’s voice.
IOKIYAAR
-GSD
The fact is, I’m so freaking sick of people adding “gate” to the end of a noun.
…pet peeve of mine. freaking annoys the hell out of me. whatever. carry on.
The fact is, I’m so freaking sick of people adding “gate” to the end of a noun.
…pet peeve of mine. freaking annoys the hell out of me. whatever. carry on.
Right on. And they always spell it wrong. It’s gait.
Too much gender-loaded language, on second thought. Still reads like an attack while advocating laying off.
Also, I’m with mikey. Brookhiser is dead on, at least for a significant part of the electorate. Hell, I voted that way when I was 18; I didn’t know anything about policy and simply decided that *this* guy seemed better than *that* guy. An intense interest in politics is the exception, not the rule.
The really comical part comes when the rest of the Corner responds to Brookhiser and does its best to pretend he’s somewhere off in left field. Andy McCarthy’s response is the best, I think, because he implicitly concedes Brookhiser’s point in one of the longer paragraphs while maintaining that it’s *those guys over there,* the Dems, who vote that way, while *us guys over here* are ever so much more thoughtful. McCarthy seems determined to pretend that Obama’s convention speech never existed.
Right there with you, some guy.
I keep waiting for the elected official to have a landscape company work over his front yard for free, and in the end put in a wrought iron fence and concrete path, and a quaint little gate to access his yard from the sidewalk.
And have it explode onto all the front pages as Gategate…
mikey
The trooper issue is about a public figure who, in her capacity as a public figure, pursued a personal agenda and then lied about it. Abuse of power. I’d go with this one.
It can be argued that the “baby” thing is documented fact as well, in that at the very least she lied to the airline and then she got on a plane and risked her child’s life for stupid selfish reasons while billing herself as super mom. How is that not an issue? As a woman and a mother, I’ll tell you that I think that is a HUGE issue. At least with the trooper story it could be argued that she was sticking up for her sister, and in many parts of the country sticking up for blood is seen as one hell of a lot more honorable than following any silly little ethics laws. The wingers are apt to see that as a point in her favor. Most women, pro-life or pro-choice, are apt to see her selfish risk of her child’s health as a hell of a lot more criminal than trying to make a supervisor fire an abusive, violent drunk who hurt your sister and threatened your Pa. (Note: I’m not sticking up for Palin on the attempted brother-in-law firing, as it’s my understanding that those charges against brother-in-law have not been substantiated and clearly if she did what she is accused of it was unethical, but I grew up around a people for whom family was everything and you fought for them in every way, right or wrong. It’s a clan thing.)
The Bridge to Nowhere is, however, just a big juicy plum hanging there for our picking and eating pleasure. 😉 She was, after all, for it before she was against it. Yee-ha!
Far as I’m concerned, Candy, you don’t even think about what the wingers might think, what the base might think.
You say. Hmm, y’know what? This is a felony. I have testimony on file. Not one, but TWO investigations in play. And oh by the way, we’re waiting for your deposition, young lady.
It’s a CRIME. It’s ABUSE OF POWER. Nobody can say it’s personal, or private. Explain away the already extant testimony. That’s documented abuse. That’s journalism. That’s an investigation. Not speculation. Not innuendo. Not something that can be batted aside as “personal”.
That’s who we are. Hell, babe, that’s who we WANT to be…
mikey
Ah, Jeez, the baby thing is really not a good thing to go with. But I have one question about it – how did the story about her going into labor and flying back to Alaska get aired the first time?
Because if it was gossip and speculation from the start, it’s not germane.
But if it came from her people, as kind of a “Lookit how tough she is, and what a great Alaska booster to boot!” deliberately aired “positive” story – then it’s worth criticizing her terrible judgment.
g – it was reported in the Anchorage papers as her re-telling of the story, so it must have come through her people.
My bad – it was a paper in Fairbanks.
I saw it on 60 minutes, and the interviewer said something about “the historic significance of being the first AA candidate…”
and Obama said, “I think people have noticed that.”
Mikey, you’re absolutely right about not stooping to tactics we decry. If someone had manufactured this controversy, it would be heinous.
But noticing something that the entire state of Alaska accepts as common knowledge… well, that’s just the human mind trying to make sense of what I regard as a lot of really unlikely stuff.
One thing I have to add…
I’ve only spoken of it here, since it came up, and made a comment on one other site, which was to point out the psychic damage of lying to a child about such a fundamental part of themselves. I wish to point out that many people are appalled by this story because it’s seen as “outing” a teenager or exposing her to scandal.
Which is exactly the kind of pre-Enlightenment attitude that would lead to families making this kind of poor decision, if they did.
As a progressive thinker, I think that is also wrong. Teenagers get in trouble. Sometimes, it’s this kind of trouble. I was astonished that the Spears family handled their sixteen year old’s pregnancy as well as they did; pledges to support their child and grandchild, happy about the new arrival, and generally not acting ashamed.
Which is as it should be.
This is why such stupid concepts as “bastardy” and “illegitimate” are fading, and rightly so. This sort of situation is only a scandal if it is hidden, and people conspire, lie, falsify records, and knowingly distort a child’s self-concept.
That’s the moral issue.
Anything more on the toxic effect of such family secrets, please consult the works of Eugene O’Neill.
From a purely Rovian point of view, the best way to play “troopergate” is to constantly remind everyone she is under investigation, but not play up what actually happened.
You have to remember.. Those who are still undecided in this election, are the most stupid members of homo sapiens to ever walk upon this earth. They are exactly the kind of people who would put family loyalty over legal trifles.
On the other hand, that flight to Alaska is documented too, also criminal, although not to the same degree, but most importantly.. politically unaware people are more likely to think it matters.
We are dealing with the “undecided”. The stupid. We need to talk slowly, and not make any sudden movements incase we scare them. These are people who ignored GWB shitting upon the laws of the land. They can sure as hell ignore a crime this small. Abuse of power? It might outrage Mikey, but if those fuckers have been ignoring it for 8 years, they can ignore it for a couple of months longer.
What causes us to wail and gnash our teeth won’t affect the election. What matters is the things that cause the most politically unaware and apathetic people in America to get upset.
And have it explode onto all the front pages as Gategate…
mikey
I’ve heard from a reliable source that there is an alien in John McCain’s cheek that controls his brain.
Goitergate.
Were:
Thank you. That’s completely beautiful.
Your points seem right, and your approach is clearly built on compassion.
I bloody well want to carry a flag for YOUR side…
mikey
the elected official to have a landscape company work over his front yard for free, and in the end put in a wrought iron fence and concrete path, and a quaint little gate to access his yard from the sidewalk.
And a shrubbery. Placed here, beside the first shrubbery, only slightly higher, so we get the two-level effect with a little path running down the middle.
Mikey:
Back at ya.
Ni!
Ni!
..looks like a tie to me!
That’s true, mikey, but hypocrites and liars don’t get a pass on hypocrisy and lying just because they are also thugs and criminals. Not if they want to be in position to be president.
It’s moot anyway, the decision was never in our hands as the information had already been put out there and is apparently no new speculation in Alaska. I wouldn’t touch the daughter/baby part myself because that really is kerning land. But questioning her judgement and the arrogant way she bragged about getting around the airline in order to fly back to Alaska and her reasons for doing so (and I hope she loses the entire Texas wingnut contingent over that statement about not wanting the baby to be born a Texas fish licker or whatever it was she said) is fair.
And if the baby thing syphons off some wingnut support, that is important. They won’t ever vote for Obama, but if they stay home they won’t be voting against him either.
You have to remember.. Those who are still undecided in this election, are the most stupid members of homo sapiens to ever walk upon this earth. They are exactly the kind of people who would put family loyalty over legal trifles.
Exactly.
Actually, the most stupid are not undecided (and we know what they’ve decided). I think we’re aiming at the slightly less stupid.
And I want to be at Smut’s deposition when Gategate results in a DoJ investigation.
Erskine: Mr. Clyde, did you offer landscaping services to Rep. mikey in exchange for access?
Smut: Did I? Damn straight. You know how many Homeland Security contracts were up for grabs? What do I look like, some kind of loser idiot? You will straighten your tie and stand with proud posture when you question me. Quisling.
Erskine: [Straightening tie, smoothing hair] Sorry, sir. What I meant to ask, is did you trade shrubberies for access to the levers of power?
Smut: Two things, you sad little man. First, to say that mikey has ‘access to the levers of power’ is to say you have access to higher brain functions. Second, why would you think that something as valuable as a shrubbery would NOT be worth every bit of access one can achieve? Young man, we’re talking about a Shrubbery here, for gawds sake…
mikey
You raise a good point there Candy. Apparently the line was “You can’t have a fish picker from Texas,” and was from her husband. That does take some of the sting away since it wasn’t actually her saying it.. But damn, it really does sound insulting, whatever the hell it means.
Some good Ratfucking there for any Texans who want to pursue it!
Hey. It’s a noble life’s work.
My father was a fishpicker, and his father before him.
My family’s been picking fish in Texas since seventeen and oh seven.
I daresay we’ve picked more fish, and picked ’em better, then any other family of fishpickers in this or any other country.
Huh? What does a fishpicker actually DO?
Why, you sad little cokie, a fishpicker picks fish.
Any more questions?
Actually, the most stupid are not undecided (and we know what they’ve decided). I think we’re aiming at the slightly less stupid.
Point. But they’re only very marginally less stupid. 😉
I think right now the question is how many moderate rethugs we can peel away. That peeling seems to be going extremely well, and I’m back to being pretty optimistic. So on reflection, it’s probably just as well to leave the baby thing alone, I doubt it will help much and might boomerang, if I may borrow a K-Lo-ism.
I have to disclose that for some as yet unexamined reason/s I really, really loathe this Palin person. I’m not going to be capable of objectivity where she’s concerned, I’m afraid. It’s visceral. She makes my skin crawl.
I’m gonna shower and go to bed. I’ve got a fever and a sore throat.
Any more questions?
What does a tight end do?
“I’m a fish-pickin’ . . .”
“and I’m a grinnin’.”
…to be truly over the moon, you might need….
a SHRUBBERY
. . . and a scandal at the Ministry of Silly Walks would be Gait-gate.
Good luck with this one, conservies. My Democratic acquaintances are over the moon with Biden. Those are the people we needed to get to vote in order to beat McCain, and they will be coming out on November now.
Meanwhile, McCain’s core, which consists of meth-addled rednecks and special interest groups being told how to vote, is becoming more and more concerned at his distancing himself from their pet liberal causes.
Obama fought Democratic – yes, Democratic – special interests in Illinois, while Palin was cozying up to the likes of Ted Stevens. The qualitative difference is obvious and energizing for liberals. Things are going very, very well.
My grandfather was a fishpicker, and I learned to pick a fish at his knee. Of course these days any idjit will just strum a fish, or play “power chords” — I can’t tell you how many terrible, awful, crappie mis-harmonized versions of “Smoke on the Water” I’ve heard. What’s really upsetting is how many people will just sit down and plink out a terible song on the carp and they’ve never even learned how to properly tuna fish.
The quantitative difference is more subtle, as most people are innumerate or functionally innumerate.
Not to mention the awful flounder solos that seem to go on forever… and their key is flat.
I’m getting an eelful, queasy feeling.
A blog post from what seems to be a disinterested person that indicates Palin was very much pregnant:
http://www.polartrec.com/node/3944
Fish picker? That’s a song by the Fontanelles.
Here’s the Anchorage Daily News story from April 22, 2008, in which Todd Palin uses the term and Sarah Palin and her doctor discuss her travel from Texas to Alaska.
I read Amy Alkon’s article which excoriated McCain’s choice of Palin. Yay, Amy! I take back both things I ever said about her!
Well, sure, this is a more complex question. Because this is very close to being nature’s own tautology. You see, in order to begin to understand what a tight end does, you have to understand what a LOOSE end does.
And the challenge is that the reverse is also true.
So finally, at long last, at the end of the day, it does not come down to the role of the ends, regardless of their relative tightness. It comes down to their stools.
The firmness of the stools will tell you more about the tightness of the end then any other metric. And in this day and age, where chemical stool softeners are routinely used to obfuscate the utility of the end in question, some third way of measuring the end and the stools produced thereby is required…
mikey
I many be non-musical, but even I can hum along to Salmon Chanted Evening…
Ummm…
One thing that is beginning to emerge (check TPM and HuffPo) is that Palin was subjected to almost no vetting. She was a hasty, panicky, desperate choice by McCain, maybe made within the last week after the “houses” hullabaloo. McCain had apparently only met her once. And people poking around Alaska checking out the trooper story are finding no evidence of a vetting process. So the chance is good that she will turn out to be a full-blown Quayle.
Aside: did anyone catch Cindy McCain on ABC this morning repeating “Alaska near Russia” = “foreign policy cred”? My god, I think that is a serious GOP talking point!
…what about a rousing chorus of Fish Heads?
My Republican acquaintances are over the moon with Palin
Mmmm. Great-tasting peanut butter. Want some?
I’m taking that “fish picker” comment to be a self-deprecating one.
That is, a fish picker is someone from Alaska, since so much of their image and economy is tied to fishing.
In other words, you can’t have an Alaskan born in Texas. That dog won’t hunt. That bird won’t fly. That turd won’t float.
So, no insult intended or taken.
Unless the reporter misunderstood the comment, and Mr. Palin (who really does look like a cross between a porn star and a third-rate thug) actually said, “We can’t have him born in Texas like some pig-fucker.”
Then I’d say they’ve got a problem on their hands.
If there’s a tape.
Thanks, D. My curiousity is now satisfied.
I still question the judgement shown in getting on a long flight when going into early labor in a high-risk pregnancy.
When the Moon Hits Your Eye Like a Big Pizza Pie, That’s A’Palin
~
Gee, my brother, born in Missiruh (Missouri) is a Puke.
Which is worse.
She was a hasty, panicky, desperate choice by McCain, maybe made within the last week after the “houses” hullabaloo.
And it turns out that she’s got three. Whee!
I don’t think she will be a full blown Quayle until we get a “potatoe” moment.
However. She is a creationist. That is how stupid she is. It is only a matter of time. Unfortunately, we don’t have a lot of time. But, as she starts doing campaign stops in podunk towns, she will have to stay on the ball. She doesn’t seem to do well with unexpected questions.
Also, I was wrong about the legality of her flight to Alaska. It was perfectly legal, and allowed by the airline. However, her comments made it look like she expected them to have stopped her if they knew. She also apparently didn’t tell her doctor she planned to fly, despite being in communication with the doctor. I think she knew it was a really bad idea to fly, but did it anyway.
The fact is, John McSame is all the Quayle that is needed, and less.
To the extent that Palin could be considered a crafty maneuver by “Bullet”, it is because she’s a shiny object to distract attention from the first geezer-wannabee.
Numinous Negro…
Sort of like something a racist Dr. Smith might say.
“Curse that bilious blackamoor Barack!”
Martin Gardner rulz. Badass-est mathematician EVER!
As Jonathan Hemlock was to Art History 101?
mikey
Stop, you’re destroying the mavericky maverickness of the narrative!
All you need to know is a determined, plucky, gutsy child of the northern wastes battled her way past the evil forces of Alaska Air that would have forced her to give birth in Texas. It is a little known custom, but if the child had been born in the second largest state in the union, she and the baby would have been rejected by every single person in the state of Alaska.
They’re kind of picky that way, but there you are. Palin knew she’d be an outcast for the rest of her life and the people of Alaska needed her to stare down the Russkies and their allies the Canadians. So you see, she had to get home. She just had to.
My Republican acquaintances are over the moon with Palin
Houston, we’ve had a problem.
James Fallows is predicting that she’ll have a series of them – without even getting into her Creationist beliefs.
Y’know, DA, buried within the stupid, this guy is making an awfully important point. It is absolutely true that significant numbers of voters of both parties, perhaps a majority, make their decisions about who they are going to support based upon ridiculous, and frequently dubious facts about the personality of the candidate.
I think you’re right, Mikey. There are also quite a few people who vote straight (D) or ( R) tickets regardless of the candidate. I myself wouldn’t sit this one out unless the Dems were running Lieberman, and I wouldn’t actually vote for McCain short of the Dems running David Duke.
That said, it’s silly at this point to compare the well-known Obama with the unknown Palin … the latter’s appeal (or non-appeal) to every voter outside of Alaska is a very brief biographical sketch. So to a lot of voters who don’t pay much attention to politics Obama (and McCain and Biden) may be cardboard cutouts, but Palin is a cardboard cutout even to the people who do pay attention.
Gov. Tina Fey hasn’t exactly gotten a ringing endorsement from the hometown pols.
(via The Juneau Empire)
Among those irked by that was House Speaker John Harris, R-Valdez, an experienced legislator who had dealt with budgets for years.
When asked about her qualifications by the Anchorage Daily News, he said, “She’s old enough. She’s a U.S. citizen.”
Palin has spent little time in Juneau, rarely coming to the state capital except when the Legislature was in session, and sometimes not even then.
During a recent special session called by Palin herself, she faced criticism from several legislators for not showing up personally to push for her agenda.
Someone at the Capitol even printed up buttons asking “Where’s Sarah?”
Rep. Andrea Doll, D-Juneau, called it a telling question.
“At a time when her leadership was truly needed, we didn’t know where she was,” Doll said.
WARNING. THIS IS NOT SATIRE.
Evidently, Lil’ Richie Lowry has a friend who knows how to work the e-mails too:
More Gustav [Rich Lowry]
E-mail from a friend
I notice that Obama ostentatiously declined to go to the areas likely to be hit by Gustav, citing again his desire not to interfere with operations because of the needs of his security team. It seems that he always has a reason not to go where the crisis is and understand the situation for himself, doesn’t it? Is that the kind of dial-it-in, let-me-know-how-it’s-going-boys president we want? Gustav is a try-out for both candidates. The left can talk about JSM posing all they want—the country should draw its conclusions from repeated indications of the candidates’ desires to see for themselves what the situation is and how best to judge the recommendations they’re given.
08/31 09:30 PM
That NRO gang sure has some interesting “friends”.
Dear Truth:
YOU! CANT’T! HANDLE! YOURSELF!
The Complete Idiot’s Guide to the Last Days
I’m still sulking that no one has picked up on my own brilliant idea: Sign Language for Dummies.
Heh. A thorough summary of how great W has been.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/a_brief_history_of_bushs_time.html
Good golly.
Exactly where do you have to stand in order too look back on the last eight years and see so clearly and directly up your own butthole?
mikey
According to an article in Slate, an anonymous McCain aide stated that Palin was picked to pull in disaffected Hillary voters. “Without them, we lose. That simple.”
(Paraphrasing.)
Which is ridiculous, because didn’t they create the whole PUMA fuss themselves?
Maybe the hall of mirrors they live in has gotten so complicated even they can’t keep track.
The left can talk about JSM posing all they want—the country should draw its conclusions from repeated indications of the candidates’ desires to see for themselves what the situation is and how best to judge the recommendations they’re given.
08/31 09:30 PM
All the answer Lil’ Richie needs (or deserves), right here.
Here’s the mikey update.
Drank the better part of a bottle of Laphroaig.
Watched the Dodgers put a hurtin on the DBacks. Hee hee. I’m in the tank for Manny.
Made a chicken fried rice that was damn good. Umm. Except I kept having good ideas about shit to throw in and it ended up being bigger than my wok. I hate it when that happens. My wok needed cialis.
So I can’t go back to the scotch. That would be weird. I do, however, have a bottle of twelve year old Patron Crystal Tequila. And a shot glass. Stand back.
I found a whole stack of old MP3 CDs, the GOLD ones, from the mid to late nineties. I’m rockin. Can you spell Loverboy?
mikey
It’s quite likely that the real reason for Wet-Start’s choo-choo-CHOOsing Miss Congeniality was to deflect attention from his own lame personality & even lamer campaign – & from what I’m seeing both here & elsewhere, it appears to be doing just that.
“Numinous Negro” – WTF?!? The “most leftist candidate EVAR” meme baffles me. Pardon my confusion: most hardcore liberals I’ve been reading were all for Edwards or even Kucinich, & decried Obama as another Bill Clinton “third way” conservative-liberal hybrid, nowhere near as progressive as they’d like him to be.
While we’re on the “confused” topic:
Yeah, Troutfuhrer, things sure are going very, very well – for Obama. Your jet-killer just nominated a nobody who’s under criminal investigation who’s openly proud of endangering the life of an unborn special-needs child, so she can make a speech. If you’re doing so “very, very well” with her, how come the GOP’s numbers are going down? It’s 270 to win, by the by – looks like your hero just fucked the pooch. Say good-night, little Trout … the party’s over.
The Paranoid’s Guide to Psychotic Belief-Systems.
…the country should draw its conclusions from repeated indications of the candidates’ desires to see for themselves what the situation is and how best to judge the recommendations they’re given.
Perhaps the candidates should stay the fuck away, watch the NOAA website, and think about what they (or at most one of them) MIGHT do if and when they’re in a position to do anything. … and what the hell does “how best to judge the recommendations they’re given” mean, if anything?
Hey, you scaleless bastards, go pick on someone with lungs why don’t yez!
the same color-by-numbers mindset that liberals did when they rallied to Obama […] because he is a Numinous Negro
That does explain the lack of support for alternative candidates.
Jim, love that linky.
It’s a Festivus miracle!
…and also note that when Coalition Forces invaded Afghanistan in 2001, Obama was ostentatiously absent…
Come on – you know how hard it is to do good scrimshaw in Texas?
Oxhorn just doesn’t have the right grain for the fine detail work.
The left can talk about JSM posing all they want
Ah, JSM. The jokes write themselves.
When that poison gas descended on Bhopal, mikey was ostentatiously absent. What are we to make of this?
For that matter, when KAL007 was shot down, once again, we have mikey ostentatiously missing from the proceedings. Something to be considered, is it not?
And then, just when we began to have some confidence, where was mikey when Iran Air 655 went down over the gulf? These are hard questions, but the must be asked.
Finally, when Anwar Sadat was gunned down, right there before our eyes, the ostentatious lack of mikey in any of the video frames can only be construed as highly suspicious.
I swear, that fucker’s up to something…
Thanks WB … I could’ve easily put 3 or 4 more up, but I’m lazy / have to go to work soon / don’t trust the tool of Satan that is WordPress with too many links.
If the current “GOP Sucking Chest-Wound” trend continues, Wet-Start will be lucky to carry 10 or 15 states. By November he’ll be making Dukakis look like LBJ.
It couldn’t happen to a nicer flip-flopper.
You mean McGovern. LBJ won his only race in a landslide.
Mikey, chicken fried rice? Sounds like a lot of work, coating each grain of rice with seasoned flour and then pan frying it. You must be very dedicated.
Me, I’m having a sort of off Côtes du Rhône and preparing some brussels sprouts. Also a roasted cauliflower and alfredo mess for my wife, who is craving weird foods for some reason (looks around nervously).
Ok, Doc, that’s crackin me up more than it oughta. I’m writing it down to the tequila.
Or, if you’re from the central valley, the tequilar….
mikey
In further dramatic developments in Gategate, a surprise witness, answering to the name of Ethel Waters, testified that Rep. Mikey was indeed a keen gardener. In response to a question about the Representative’s commitment to his constituents, she described as “such a handy man”. She went on to note that he was sometimes “up long before the dawn, Busy trimmin’ the rough edges off my front lawn”.
Well, if everybody’s fish picking, I’ll have the one over by the scallop shell. No, not that one, the one in plaid.
Hmm, I too am having brussels sprouts. Interesting. I chucked them into a decidedly nontraditional tom yum goong that turned out a bit spicier than I expected. My nose is running.
It only became more complex and challenging when it was discovered that yet a different lobbying firm had underwritten the installation of a grate for scraping the mud off your boots just inside the gate, on the edge of the porch.
Yep. None other than the Washington Post is now calling it GateGrateGate…..
mikey
OT, but Jonanism now appears in urban dictionary, because I submitted it (with proper attribution, of course). You might mosey on over and give it the thumbs up.
You mean McGovern. LBJ won his only race in a landslide.
Thus “making Dukakis look like LBJ” means McCain will be crushed. Not an opinion I share, but I’m hopeful.
Oh, right. My bad. The analogy got a little twisty for me.
Because I am aware of
allmosta few internet traditions I went over to three bulls, a place where they don’t seem to speak ANY language at all, and said hi. Perhaps because I’m drunk enough that it seemed safe. Anyway, why not go by and say hi yourselves?mikey
Anyway, why not go by and say hi yourselves?
THAT WOULD BE CENSORSHIP!
Jennifer, consider your entry thumbed.
Uhm, I mean, uh…I liked what you wrote.
As for political scandals, this Gategate foolishness pales in comparison to accusations that I accepted a gourmet cheese grater in return for voting a bill out of committee.
The local paper has dubbed the affair Gratergate.
Then there’s that scandal involving alligators and the Department of Wildlife Management – Gatorgate.
And let’s not forget the alleged bribes from that sports drink company which has come to be known as Gatoradegate.
Thank you. Thank you very much. I’ll be here all week. You’ve been great. I’d like to think of our time together as Greatgate.
And really, try the veal. It’s imported. From Crete.
The press was astounded today to notice that Rep. Mikey appears to have caused some damage to his leg scraping the mud from his boots and has as a result developed a distinctive walk. The WaPo brings you the latest exclusive on GateGrateGaitGate but first these words from our sponsor.
Pancho Villa would never rest
‘Til 1925 he closed his eyes
‘Til Manilla stars would rise
Gozo of the Phillipines, choirs and angels sing
But it seems to me that those baying voices raised in the joy of the hunt, crying out for more of these intensely personal attacks as a course of action in a political campaign, wiping the foam off their lips as they stamp their feet and proclaim “Rove was Right, Rove is The Way!”, well, it seems to me those voices are ADVOCATING a course of action rather than TAKING a course of action…
Mikey, I’ve gotta agree with you on this one; I’m inordinately suspicious of ‘independent thinkers’ who only show up, like horseflies, when there’s a particularly stinky pile of ‘infotainment’ newly dumped.
On the other hand, I don’t care whether Palin birthed little Trig from her own uterus or bought him on eBay, but she’s made such renown as she has by loudly advertising that her status as Wife’N’Mother is Job #1 for Mrs. Joe “Fishpicker” Palin. Now she’s responsible for the well-being of a Trisomy-21 newborn, someone whose lifetime prospects are very much dependent on the amount of loving one-on-one attention he gets during the next five years.
As Miss Manners might phrase the argument, it’s just Not Fair to ask the mother of a special-needs infant to spend the next four years as the understudy for a 72-year-old man with recurrent health issues in one of the most demanding 24/7/52 jobs on the planet. Just as it’s Not Fair to ask a 72-year old war veteran in less-than-perfect health to spend the next four years humping Dubya’s Unexcellent Ideas across the increasingly threatening global landscape. Shame on the thoughtless political apparatchiks who were too lazy or calculating to find less-challenged candidates, given all the rich middle-aged Republicans who meet the entry requirements! Why, a political party so cavalier about Personal Responsibility doesn’t deserve “our” votes!…
Because if there’s a portion of the Republican base who’ll never vote for a “Negro”, be he never so “numinous”, those of us in the reality-based community can at least encourage them to stay home on Election Day.
P.S. Since Mr. Palin contributes to the family coffers by working on a salmon boat when he’s not
sucking federal welfare and taking Big Oil contributionssnowmobiling, I agree that “fishpicker” has to be one of those self-defensive epithets like “bogtrotter” or “shitekicker” that’s better not used by those of us outside the fraternity.But honestly, Anne Laurie, is it for us to judge her motherhood? Or rather, is it for us to judge her worth as Vice President, one heartbeat away and all that wonderful traditional blather?
It’s an election, fer gawds sake, not a human contest. Whoever wins will, in the course of the next four years, be required to make decisions that will lead to the immediate, hard, bloody death of quite a number of the worlds population. And one of the prospects is that they will issue the commands that will lead to the extinction of humankind.
I don’t think we need to care one whit about what kind of mother she is. And if her kid doesn’t do as well as he should, frankly, that’s not a really big concern of mine.
I care about the quality of the governmental leadership at the executive level. I care about how they perceive their roles in the context of that job, and I care about how they might exercise the truly awesome power available to them.
And for fucks sake, we’ve seen what can go wrong when you let an idiot and an ideologue take power.
It’s just about the politics. We have the strong hand. Let them try to sell their goods. It’s not something that I’m concerned about…
mikey
The problem with “BabyMommaGate” is that even if it’s true, it can be spun by the Reps as a positive, i.e. “this was such a dedicated mother that she lied to protect her daughter.” I would virtually guarantee that among red-state pro-lifers, such an occurrence is not abnormal. And what mother wouldn’t go to great lengths to protect her daughter’s reputation?
It could prove that Palin lied.. but much like proving Clinton lied about a blowjob, it might simply make voters say “so what?”
There are lots of legit ways to attack Palin. Let’s take those.
The baby thing is a ratfuck, people.
The baby thing is a ratfuck, people.
I’ve thought this from the start. Is it remotely possible? Sure. But that’s what whoever planted this crap is counting on.
It’s not worth the risk, guys. There’s a lot better shit out there to use against her, and the last thing we need is the carpet pulled out from under us this close to the election.
In further developments, the hearings into Logic-Gate have been denounced as “largely symbolic”.
I’d like to thumb that entry.
I’d like to shake those ashes.
I’d like to grease that griddle.
I’d like to flap that flapjack.
Republicans cancel their convention because of a punk-ass hurricane ?
Buncha pussies !
Oh sure, that kind of clever word play is easy when it’s what, some time in the freakin afternoon in NZ?
I’m better than halfway through a bottle of damn good tequila, and no, that is NOT an oxymoron, I’ve got CHER of all things blasting on my stereo (and it’s kicking ASS), and I don’t have access to symbolic logic.
That said, it seems that neither logic NOR magic can help us now.
[smirks]
mikey
I’ll be honest though—I’d love to know who’s planting that story, because this level of political ratfuckery is without question beyond the skills of the McCain campaign.
I mean—look at who they picked as his running mate, and look at the stories we’ve heard about how they did it—no vetting, met her once, decision made last weekend, etc.
Hell, Simba, think about it.
How many sex partners have we had that were vetted even more poorly.
And some of them in a ‘vette!!
mikey
Beer o’clock here and my disturbing-images-related comment on the previous thread is finally out of quarantine. Celebration.
The baby thing is a ratfuck, people.
Coincidentally, that’s exactly what I said after watching Eraserhead!
I’ll be honest though—I’d love to know who’s planting that story, because this level of political ratfuckery is without question beyond the skills of the McCain campaign.
I don’t believe the ratfuck angle. It’s an oddball story because Palin turns out to be an oddball, and conspiracy theories ALWAYS fly on the internet.
There are better shit moats to waste time on.
*Wave wave* Token Alaskan checking in. I went to the state fair today, and some enterprising soul (or souls) already had a booth full of McCain/Palin t-shirts, sweatshirts, buttons, etc. (The fair started a fair bit before the whole Palin for VP thing hit the papers, so.) Not too many people wandering around wearing them, though I did see a few.
The most interesting thing was actually a gaggle of teens arguing about who to vote for. The boys were all for McCain, “because then Palin’ll be vice-president!” The girls were (thank goodness) more level-headed and were stating firmly that one should vote for Obama.
So, while there are a large number of Alaskans that’ll vote for McCain and Palin on nothing more than the strength of ‘she’s an Alaskan, too!’, there are a good number of us that’ll be voting Obama, too. (Plus, we went for Obama during our primary, which made me feel better.) This means nothing, of course, because our electoral votes will undoubtedly go to McCain, but we’re not all a total loss up here.
OT – did anyone watch Obama and Biden on 60 Minutes? Smart, articulate, senses of humor, deft ability to get points across. Human beings who are good at thinking!
Now and Forever!!!
does mccain’s goiter make sarah look fat?
Looks like Babbygate’s been debunked.
The fact is, Obama and Biden looked like the anti-Americans sellouts they are on 60 Minutes, which is biased to the left. Why do the liberals go first? They will not allow McCain and Pakin to talk I guarantee, so tilted leftward. They also sounded stupid and nobody will vote for them. Yes I noticed Obama is black and historic as this might be, so what? I’m not voting for him you can’t force us here in the heartland to.
Someone, please let HTML know that Josh Marshall is returning the favor.
I think figured out why McCain picked Palin. He wants to humiliate the Republican party faithful. “She’s Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard”. Got to hear that from a co-worker this morning. I learned long ago not to discuss politics with her, but I just had to know.
“I like her, she’s been Commander in Chief of Alaska’s National Guard which is more than you can say for Obama!”
That was pretty much the end of the conversation as I laughed myself nearly unconscious. I was able ask why she thought the Commander in Chief of the Minnesota National Guard was passed over. She had no idea who it was. Everything gets hazy after that but I’m pretty sure Russia didn’t come up. I don’t think I would have survived to type this if it had.
Thanks for the laughs John McCain, you cruel bastard.
A shout-out from Talking Pants Memo!
“I’m not voting for him you can’t force us here in the heartland to.”
OK, Gary, we told you five times, that was just a stupid joke. I am sorry you didn’t find it funny, and I am sorry for the nightmares that you keep mentioning. For the last time, no it is not true that they will ship you off to Africa if you don’t vote for obama. I hope you leave these folks here alone and we’ll see you at the racepark this weekend.
Bud
The Palingate/pregnancy thing looks like a no-starter to me. Sure, it does look kinda suspicious, but I’m not sure it would be all that effective to use. Also, getting too far into conspiracy theories is an easy way to get yourself discredited (unless you are collecting wingnut welfare, in which case it is a sign of independent and critical thinking).
It just seems too…neat. Obama is accused of falsifying records etc, and now here is an opening for some return fire. That would also have the useful effect of making thousands of wannabe e-detectives take their eyes off the ball that is McCain, and focus on a distraction that may not yield anything more than wild conjecture.
I’m all for ratfucking and playing dirty, but you have to weigh up the potential gains and losses in any particular venture. No doubt you could probably rope in a few loonies from some conspiracy forums, get a site going and pretend to be Concerned Conservative Christian Mothers Wanting Answers From Palin or the like, I can just see it having minimal effect, for the above reasons. Its easy to discredit if it is false (and even if it isn’t, its an easy way to smear the messenger) and it puts the focus on the wrong person. Palin has only had a few years to screw up in politics, even less at a state level (though she seems to be a quick learner in abuses of power). McCain has had decades of worse, and that is where attention should be focused.
tl;dr, Palin is a distraction with uncertain payoff, put the focus on McCain, where the real goods are.
“I agree that “fishpicker” has to be one of those self-defensive epithets”
OK, call me a pansy and a wuss, but I don’t find it a superbly strong motivation to put your amniotic-fluid-leaking wife on a crosscontinental commercial flight, just because “you can’t have a fishpicker from texas” – the monstrous threat to the Universe’s symetry and order that this would represent notwithstanding… But then, what do I know, we only have three kids…
My guess is that the “Whose baby is he?” talk started as local gossip in Alaska—in the state capital, in Anchorage, and in the Palin’s hometown. Now, once the talk got started, there’s no stopping ratfuckers of various shapes and sizes and political inclinations from picking it up and trying to use it for their various, sometimes conflicting purposes.
Shift the first apostrophe right of s.
Shift the first apostrophe right of s.
Not necessary if you think of Mooseburger, like the press is trying to, as a force of nature. Teh Palin is going to sell Air Force One to help pay down the debt. Teh Palin has more executive experience than Chief Executive “Power Tie” McCorner-Office.
Your error is that Teh Palin ain’t from Anchorage, she’s from an Anchorage suburb. Wasilla is 45 miles out. That’s like guys from Trenton saying that their hometown is Manhattan.
Justme
That pic was hilarious. I also love the expression on that guy’s face next to her. Maybe I’m just interpreting his expression with my own emotions, but sorta he looks like he’s thinking, “aww shit… just don’t shoot anyone…”
The funny part is that I’d probably look like that if I tried to shoot a rifle.
Your error is that Teh Palin ain’t from Anchorage, she’s from an Anchorage suburb.
I listed three cities.
This won’t do. Obama’s energy plan consists of tire gauges and a friendly sit-down with Ahmadinejad. Nothing more, nothing less. Please get with the program, Gov. Palin.
Sen. McCain (at his Sedona
ranchretreat): Research? I don’t need no stinking research. I’m the Original Maverick, dammit! Research is for the weak and indecisive.Which he followed up with, “$10,000 on Three’s a Lucky Lady for win! I like the name and 5 is my lucky number! And look, 99 to 1… I like ‘dem odds!”
Jennifer: Good wordsmithing there. I just gave “Jonanism” its 28th thumbs up.
Well well.. It turns out something WAS up. Bristol IS preggers. We were right to think something was up, and all the discussion is what forced Palin to come clean.
So Sarah Palin WAS irresponsible with the welfare of Trig, and her abstainance only crap didn’t even take with her own daughter. Plenty of legitimate ammo there.
I’m late to the party but Justme hit it right on the head with that image of Palin and the M16. If Palin had any firearms training, not even training for a Class III license, any training, she would never do what she is doing in that image. That’s dumb beyond belief. Add to it, she’s pointing the freaking weapon towards humans. Loaded or otherwise, that’s nothing something you do unless you’re trying to shoot them. Again, basic firearms safety.
Gary Ruppert said, at 13:27
I’m not voting for him you can’t force us here in the heartland to.
So, the wretch continues to resist. We will see if he is still so brave in the face of
[dramatic chord]
The comfy chair!
I am beginning to think that maybe they knew she was useless, and the conspiracy theory that they intend to drop her is correct. The message to the base would be “we tried but the liberal media printed so many lies about her she had to withdraw”.
If there is a God, I’m praying that this is true and he prompts McCain to pick Lieberman to step in.
I don’t think Balance is done yet by any stretch, but I don’t
hesitate to go Balance in a dungeon or raid now wow gold
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