The thoughts of an old dick.

Nooooo! We were nowhere NEAR done with the last thread!
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It should be needless to say this, but just in case someone is unclear, Obama didn’t insult Sarkozy; he complemented him on the beauty of his wife according to a very old and formulaic joke.

Is Hoft the dumbest man in Wingnuttistan?

Our survey says…
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Did he even look at the video he posted of Sarko not laughing? Because he’s clearly laughing. Or does he just assume since it’s in French none of his readers will care to actually watch it?

The thoughts of an old dick.

I read “d’un vieux canard” when I clicked on it – “thoughts of an old duck?” Then read it again… “ohhh, okay.”

Perused the fr.yahoo.com headlines relevant to the subject. According to the comments section, no one seems to give a shit. There’s a few people going “YEAH!!! in your FACE, Sarko, about time someone took you down” and a few more people going “that’s not funny.” Most of them, though, are just like “LOL.”

Comment mango,

Sarko should have shot back, “Well, at least I’m not a thug like you.”

It would work if it wasn’t for the fact that no one other than al-Qaeda and the American right wing actually perceives the President as “a thug,” which is probably why it didn’t come to mind. Fucking humor, how does it work?

Pennis displays his lack of comprehension yet again.
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I don’t know much about guns, but enough to know that his finger shouldn’t be anywhere near the trigger in that pose. What a maroon.

“Did he even look at the video he posted of Sarko not laughing? Because he’s clearly laughing.”

It looked more like an embarrassed grimace to me, but nobody in France seems to give a fuck.

Denny, you really want to bring up the example of your guy sexually harassing another world leader?

“I don’t know much about guns, but enough to know that his finger shouldn’t be anywhere near the trigger in that pose. What a maroon.”

Why? It’s only a plastic one.

You’re talking as if I know anything about, or care anything about, sports.

I personally think sexually harassing someone is a worse thing to do than not congratulating a Baseball team. That’s just me though.

Obama is a lib hero though for not calling up and congratulating the World Series champs and their unbelievable run because LaRussa and Pujols once showed up at a tea party rally.
Another case of Ward Churchill Syndrome, considering I had no idea that even happened but I still apparently lionize Obama for it anyway.

AND OBAMA NEVER CALLED ME TO THANK ME FOR RAPING THOSE TODDLERS EVEN THOUGH THEY WUZ A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO ME NOT BEING ABLE TO RAPE TODDLERS HMPH TYPICAL LIB DOUBLE STANDARD.

I posted that pic over at my joint once, and used my “Monkey. Photoshopped with a gun.” tag for more lulz.

Dennis annoys me. I am deleting his comments and he’s about to get banned. Because I’m grumpy today.

Also, Obama would be considered somewhat right-wing in my country. I certainly don’t lionise him, so you can cut that nonsense out (not that you will).

I really hope that’s Crystal Lake behind him.
Wait, no, the virgin always survives. Shit.

Yay!

NOW MY POOPIES ARE INVISIBLE!

Hippies?? I thought they were beatniks! Well..see if
OWS gets anymore support from me.

And yes, Hoft really is the dumbest wingnut blogger, which you can tell by only looking at him. This is a guy who’s SO dumb that he thinks that haircut looks good. The “Get a Brain, Morans!” guy might be dumber, and I believe he was also from the St. Louis area, and is probably a Hoft regular reader, but doesn’t have his own blog…so the prize still goes to Hoft.

Mr. Sarkozy, who is said to be very conscious about his looks,
So maybe “teh fucking president” is not an ideal job for him, non?

With Dennis gone, maybe threads won’t balloon up to 5 billion posts whenever I’m away from the computer for a couple minutes.

One can only hope.

Dennis annoys me. I am deleting his comments and he’s about to get banned. Because I’m grumpy today.

That kind of comment should really have a Paypal button attached to it.

I saw NOTHING! NOTHING!
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Well, at least I’m not a thug like you.

Wait! I’m confused! Is he a ruthless Chicago thug or a spineless appeaser? I can never keep track.

And why is he holding a commie gun like an AK-47 anyway?

Why do you they call it him dope?
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I saw NOTHING! NOTHING!

me either and i’m a bit disappointed…nothing wakes me up faster than a jolt of pennis in the morning…

Tintin is wise and fair.

comments at the gateway dumbshit are just amazing…they’re still pissed off about him *bowing* to that one d00d that one time…have they srsly NOT seen the full-on lip action of dubs and the saudis? not to mention the handholding…i mean really, how do these people hold down jobs or get through a day?

Tintin is wise and fair.

all hail tintin to be sure…but the daughter and i are trying out a new brunch item today and since pennis was such a fan of the recipes here, i was hoping to get some tips from him…

i mean really, how do these people hold down jobs or get through a day?

Most of them are on SSI disability. Irony is dead.
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All hail Tintin teh Benevolent.

Most of them are on SSI disability. Irony is dead.

and undoubtedly have a *free* hoverround…

but srsly, this brunch item consists of mixed greens w/some red onion, water chestnuts and some shrooms…this is topped with a couple strips of bacon and then an overeasy egg cooked in the bacon grease…is this truly the culinary delight i have been led to believe it is?

anyone?
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anyone?

You wanted Pennis’ tip? You disgust me.

You wanted Pennis’ tip? You disgust me.

ha, ha…i see what you did there…okay, which would you rather have in your mouth: pennis’ tip or raisins?

The Liberal Nanny State really, really thinks you shouldn’t hold your gun like that, Hoft. They’re really, really worried about you losing a finger or a hand if you accidentally hit the trigger. Just some friendly advice.

The thoughts of an old dick.

Speaking as an old Dick, we do not think this way. This is clearly the thinking of an old, used up, and thrown away douchebag.

I don’t know much about guns, but enough to know that his finger shouldn’t be anywhere near the trigger in that pose.

It is the little things like that which still gives me hope for humanity, as it is only a matter of time before most of the gun wankers blow their own heads (large or small) off.

nope, we don’t mind at all…carry on mr. hoft!

imma take the lack of comments on said brunch salad as a hands down ‘ewwwwwwww!’ perhaps it should not be eaten?

imma take the lack of comments on said brunch salad as a hands down ‘ewwwwwwww!’ perhaps it should not be eaten?

It would not be my first choice, but I can’t afford to be picky.
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It would not be my first choice, but I can’t afford to be picky.

it sounded super at the time of its description…but i may have just been really hungry at the time…i do have my doubts…but yeah, i did buy special stuff for it, so i guess i should eat it…

I’ve made a simpler variation of that salad, bbkf…with frisee and champagne vinegar…absolutely delicious.

’ve made a simpler variation of that salad, bbkf…with frisee and champagne vinegar…absolutely delicious.

good to hear…it’s almost ready to eat…

The classic is frisee, lardons, vinaigrette, egg. Water chestnuts? Okay, I can see that. The shrooms don’t fit well with the flavor profile/style of the classic but I don’t think it would be bad.

The osso buco was, of course, FAAAAAABULOUOUOUOUSSSS!

he shrooms don’t fit well with the flavor profile/style of the classic but I don’t think it would be bad.

i didn’t go with any shrooms in the end…did add some parm…

WTFF??? Sarkozy’s offended rage looks suspiciously like generic new-Dad joy?
Being European: it makes you emotionally dyslexic.

Hoft’s Achievement Unlocked = CLUTCHING AT STRAWS!

WTFF???

once again, jim nails it…the salad…meh…could take it or leave it…bonus: warm triple chocolate bundt cake…

Shorter every Hoft post:

Hoft: I want you to go in that bag, and find my wallet.
Pam: Which one is it?
Hoft: It’s the one that says Dumb Motherfucker

Hoft’s Achievement Unlocked = CLUTCHING AT STRAWS!

While it might look like a straw, that’s not what he’s clutching.

I’m going for an asparagus, mushroom and bacon omelette, m’self.

Asparagus season. Time to visit Reagan’s grave.

French Infants will be called instead “Freedom Babies.”

The brunch sounds nice, except for the bacon. Can’t bring myself to eat pork, even after leaving the Tribe.
As for Jimmy the Simple, that Kalasnikov doesn’t seem quite right. IIRC, the rear sight is on the bolt cover on civilian (semi-auto) models, the one pictured is military, selective-fire version (rear sight on receiver). Who knew Jimmy had a Class III weapons permit?

Can’t bring myself to eat pork

The diner scene is getting a lot of play here, today.
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***MOAR PROOF OF LIBTARD ENTITLEMENT KULTUR***

If the Whigs or the Fabian Society had started out being censored, spun & fucked with as harshly as the OWS crowd has been, would they have lasted half as long?

Just a point to ponder.

Can’t bring myself to eat pork, even after leaving the Tribe.

that is sad for you…i would die w/out any kind of meat…except for the offal stuff that b^4 eats…and bacon just may be the best invention ever…

Yes, it’s asparagus season. In the southern hemisphere. The stuff you have likely came from Chile.

Can’t bring myself to eat pork, even after leaving the Tribe.

As a Southern boy, I have to say that is truly a sad state of affairs, but it does leave more for me (BACON!). Had a friend in graduate school who was in the same position. Raised Orthodox, but an atheist himself, and the smell of cooking pork still made him queasy. Given that he married a nice Southern Christian girl from North Carolina, that could cause problems.

Yeah, I figured, but still… If teh soopermarket has it cheaps, its in season for me.

Sad. I know.

Still a good time for that visit.

Not to self: When you get the absurdly thick, eight strips/lb stuff, two is probably plenty for one sitting.

Note

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

yah

And then he praised the down-to-earth, man-of-the-people manner of Herman Cain, who’s not constrained by the political correctness of Washington, and will bring a refreshing “tell-it-like-it-is” tone to the Oval Office, and why the hell can’t those bitchez at the NRA take a little joke?

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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I prefer Bb myself.

Whoooeee is that a thick vein of stupid over there. I tend to shelve Hoft in the “too dumb even to provoke lulz” section then I realize he has genuine banana eating, knuckle dragging followers hanging on his every post. The mind, it reels. The vodka, it does nothing.

is this truly the culinary delight i have been led to believe it is?

Yeah. Almost as good as that same egg over corned-beef hash.

OT: we just came from a petting zoo and an alpaca tried to get to second base with Mini__B.

Why yes he was dropped on his head as a child, several times in fact.

Really shows doesn’t it?

I guess we can count our blessings he landed face first most of the time…

Hoft looks like the Kent character from real genius

What fair mangos, dost I see upon his shore?

Huh, not much.

More Smart Power…
What was meant to be a joke resulted in a major insult. Barack Obama tried to be funny at the G20 this week but nobody laughed.
Obama told his global audience,

“I want to make mention that this is our first meeting since the arrival of the newest Sarkozy, and so I want to congratulate Nicolas and Carla on the birth of Giulia… And I informed Nicolas on the way in that I am confident that Giulia inherited her mother’s looks rather than her father’s, which I think is an excellent thing.”

It’s a roast comment. Hell, I’m not even sure those types of comments are even really meant to be funny in the conventional sense, rather than an affectation of “we’re such good buds, we can joke around”.

They really are steaming in their own clam shell that Obama is just giving them nothing to work with with their desperate need to “get liberals back” for liberals noting the many many times Bush stumbled drunkenly over foreign policy, using our allies’ head-of-state as his own personal roll of toilet paper, thus making us look like a joke to the world stage.

Absent anything real like a creepy molesty massage to the German Prime Minister or coming up with doggy names for the British Prime Minister, they are left with this and damnitt they are going to milk it.

There may be no there there, they may not give a damn about the French in general, and they may lack any clue whatsoever, but damnitt, that’s not going to stop them.

The rule of projection demands it!

It ends with a Moonie Times quote about why the wingnuts should be outraged which is about as connected to reality as you would expect from the Moonie Times.

But the real beauty happens between that.

Brace yourself for the awesomest mango yet!

Nobody laughed.
Here’s the video with some rude Frenchman talking over Obama.

They’re talking about the translator for the news. You know, like the white guy they have talking over foreign presidents when they show up on American news?

In the middle of his “no, no, I am totally worldly and supportive of French now that it gives me an ability to get pissy over the Black Man not being as good as Captain Codpiece! Bring back the hardons!” fail, he can’t fully stumble over the starting block before completely depantsing himself with the carefully built lack of awareness of anything “foreigny”.

Thus he’s left gawping through the basic stereotypes. French = rude, thus french person speaking over American person so he can’t understand what the vile n****er is saying to destroy our freedoms must be rude.

I hesitate to say more. I feel that line really says it all.

The comment tigers… They’re white supremacists. I mean, there’s not much else to say. They are too dumb for dog-whistles and so skip straight past them to basically ranting that no one should say anything about looks when they are a damn thug n***er.

I’m not kidding.

1) jug ears,
2) purple lips
3) a notable speech problem when pronouncing words ending with “s”,
4) speckled gray and black hair,
5) a nose wide as his mouth,
6) a constant air of stale cigarette smoke about him,
7) a outsized skull that makes him a candidate for someone’s bobblehead day,
somewhat of a drinking problem, and

has a wife who looks like her face was mashed at birth and the offended tissue and cells landed down in her hips.

Which kind of spells out the point of this and all the other made-up “controversies” the right have. To claim that there is some sort of reason that they hate the president beyond he’s black. But completely unaware that ranting about “he sucked bowling”, “he gave an ipod as a gift”, “he once bowed to a Saudi” and other years old non-issues just makes it all the more obvious that they are smarting over legitimate critiques of Bush and how much it burns them that there is a black president.

And it burns like the cross they ache to put on his lawn.

Though I am wondering the wingnut conspiracy theory behind this comment:

The Euros caught on early to the closet marxist cross-dresser isamlist who happens to be President of the United States…He’s a zero who hands out Ipods for state gifts and bows to muslim kings…

I apparently missed the Obama in drag argle bargle.

OT: we just came from a petting zoo and an alpaca tried to get to second base with Mini__B.

Heavy petting, indeed.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I prefer Bb myself.

Apparently I was playing an E minor drone.

Ha ha, in rightside world it is, indeedly doodly, asparrowgrass time. How many spears are growing in the Kiwi family asparagus bed?? Many! that’s how many!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAH cain’t eat them til next year for some reason, but anyway.
I believe that Mr Hoft wanked himself over that photo some time ago and his commontaters got very cross at his sloppy rifle handling. Very cross

And yeah. Holy Fuque. The comments over there are simply unbelievable.

From the “I’m so dumb I can barely knit four words together”

It’s a Black thang.

to their hand wringing over Obama’s use of first names for other world leaders. I wonder what Pooty-Poot would say about that.

Just wow.

Apparently I was playing an E minor drone.

Watch out for the Hellfires.

They’re talking about the translator for the news.

Wasn’t it Hooft who saw a Presidential address (I think the one in AZ not long after Rep. Giffords was shot) which was being shown to the audience on a large screen w/ captioning, & therefore assumed that the liberal media or something equally imaginary included “[applause]” in the captioning to order people to applaud?

Can’t bring myself to eat pork, even after leaving the Tribe.

Hey, what position did you play for Cleveland? Did they trade you?

Now that you bastards have brought up food again, I am forced to fry some breakfast sausages & potatoes, mebbe w/ onions. The pain, the pain.

OT – But I had to share what TBogg found: http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2011/11/06/there-will-be-teblood-week-3-the-black-holing/

My jaw literally dropped.

Does he really refer to the translator as “some rude Frenchman”? Does dumbshit not get that French people don’t all speak English? You know, different countries have different languages… fuck it. It probably wasn’t covered in home school.

Alex-

Yes.

No.

This has been another episode of simple answers to simple questions.

Oh shoot, that probably should be a yes on the second one instead of a no, stupid “not”.

Q. What kind of catapult does Cerberus need?
A. A mangonel.

Yes, it’s asparagus season.
Spargel-pony for Pupienus! (pony not included)

Smut, those look like pianist’s fingers. I would normally grill fingers but they might be a bit thin for that.

Spargel-pony

YAYZ Spargelfest!

There were times where his deep balls flew over defender and receiver by at least five yards in every direction.

Wow you gotta work on your direction, man. Can you get non-slip gloves or somethin’? Or wear trousers.

Tebowing done right.

Anywhere else, I would think calling the translator “some rude Frenchman talking over” was meant ironically. In fact, I thought that at GP. Then I read the comments (unfortunately I can’t UNread them) and unless Hoft doesn’t know his audience, well, shit

Guh?

First the “53%” are all smug & shit about the fact that they pay taxes, and now they think it’s a BAD thing to insult the cheese-eating surrender monkeys?

What is this, Backwards Day for Backwards Day for wingnuts?

Wow. Went back there, and here’s a mango:

Sarkozy, Merkel and the other european heads of state are still trying to figure out how the nation that won WWII and the Cold War is now led by mocha colored femme bot named Hussein. It is quite disconcerting I’m sure…We are currently the joke of the world…

Cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth to the effect that “HOOOOOW come everyone thinks we’re raaaaaaaaaacist? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!”

“We are currently the joke of the world…”

True for some values of we.

Wow Chris, that hit the wingnut trifecta: racism, homophobia and anti-Islamic bigotry. In their shrunken hearts they all pine for Putin.

this one is still my favorite (talking about michelle):

I think she had some great surgery on a cleft palate. If it was a GOP candidate we’d know, KNOW
all the details incl photos of the split lip. Ick, huh?

really makes you say w.t.f.

idea for all sadlies who may be under or not employed…

Not as cool a drive as Subby’s but I’m on ole 95 from Maine to Georgia tomorrow. I know the road all too well but will listen to recommendations. My usual first stop in the South is the Tastee Hut in Stony Creek, VA for very fine fried chicken and NC style vinegar/pepper BBQ.

Thanks bbkf. You think there’s a demand for over-weight, over-50 vanilla-ish people?

M Bouffant-

Republican Pundit…

Oh wait, you said vanilla.

Sarkozy, Merkel and the other european heads of state are still trying to figure out how the nation that won WWII and the Cold War is now led by mocha colored femme bot named Hussein. It is quite disconcerting I’m sure…We are currently the joke of the world…

The Bush years never happened, nor did the Obama European tour speaking to huge cheering crowds. Amazing how someone who has apparently never allowed reality to cross his threshold has such a clear view of current world opinion.

idea for all sadlies who may be under or not employed…

Is there a market for porn featuring guys with micopenises?

Asking for a friend…A friend named…Shearpafoc…Yeah, that’s the ticket.

You think there’s a demand for over-weight, over-50 vanilla-ish people?

YET ANOTHER cookery question. Harumph.

I think it’s more of a cockery question.

Today in penis news.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8860498/Face-discovered-in-testicular-tumour.html

I got out of the boat and as per usual, the video contradicts Mr Dumbshit’s headline. Sarkozy can clearly be seen smiling and chuckling at the Usurpers joke.

@ Gocart:

People tend to anthropomorphise things. Our evolutionary adaptations have led to an ability for pattern recognition that served us well in our survival over the millennia, but tends to lead to false positives. We recognise humanity where none exists.

Examples include the “Man in the Moon,” Jesus or Mary appearing on French toast, or the ridiculous idea that Adam Sandler is a human being.

really makes you say w.t.f.

Wingnuts generally have that effect on me.

You think there’s a demand for over-weight, over-50 vanilla-ish people?

If there is, maybe you and I could get a site going. Has to pay better than the University of Montana.

he complemented him on the beauty of his wife according to a very old and formulaic joke.

…The Aristocrats!

You think there’s a demand for over-weight, over-50 vanilla-ish people?

There must be: look how many of them there are on tv.

over-weight, over-50 vanilla-ish people

Just askin’, but that TV-sitcom-dumpy-guy-with-really-hot-babe thing doesn’t actually happen in real life, does it?

but that TV-sitcom-dumpy-guy-with-really-hot-babe thing doesn’t actually happen in real life, does it?

Mrs__B and I come closer than I want to think about.

Just askin’, but that TV-sitcom-dumpy-guy-with-really-hot-babe thing doesn’t actually happen in real life, does it?

just ask hubbkf…

and ha, ha…i’m kidding cuz hubbkf is a hottie…

I think we’re entering into an era of enhanced cognitive dissonance on the wingnut side.

Over at Politico, I just read a post that explained that Lisa Jackson actually did NOT call Republicans “jack-booted thugs” – as erroneously reported by RedState. Being called “jack-booted thugs” is apparently deeply wounding to Republicans – so deeply wounding that the entire wingnut world gnashed their teeth and beat their breast and bemoaned the injustice of being called names by a government official.

The whole point of the article, including the headline, was to emphasize the fact that she had been misquoted, that the story had not happened as they had feared.

Well over half the comments to the story consisted of teeth gnashing and breast beating and bemoaning the injustice of that Big Old Meanie Lisa Jackson for calling them “jack booted thugs.”

So it is not surprsing that they would watch a video of Sarkozy not being angry, and claim that he was angry.

I saw Sarokozy laugh, and trust that if he felt the barb he had one coming to him, and I suspect that whoever wrote the editorial about how flat the joke landed is a French version of our wingnuts or our firebaggers.

Much of President Obama and Sarkozy’s G-20 press summit is available on youtube.com. It’s fun to watch them each speaking in turn then standing silently while the translator does his work.

Listen up Dennis. From the Christian science monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2011/1104/Rock-star-no-more-Obama-takes-a-back-seat-at-G20-video/%28page%29/2). The following is what your ZOMG the government is spending money during a recession nervous breakdown hath wrought:

Today, Obama is hobbled both by a weak US economy and a sharply divided Congress – preventing him from attending the meeting of the Group of 20 world economic powers with anything resembling a “this is how we do it” swagger.

The European debt crisis is rightly the focus of the Cannes summit, Mr. Groves says, given the capacity it has for dragging down the world economy. “This summit is going to be so much more about the European economy and the whole European project, than about the rise or fall of the US president,” he says

Microsoft founder Mr. Gates on Thursday campaigned for a tax on international financial transactions to fund poverty-reduction efforts worldwide. The so-called “Robin Hood tax” is one recommendation of a report Gates prepared for French President Nicolas Sarkozy as part of the French G20 presidency.

As Obama has seen his star-power eclipsed, another global power – China – has moved
to the forefront. Speculation swirled Thursday around whether China would intervene in the European debt crisis by investing in the European Union’s debtor-rescue fund.

Some Chinese financial officials have suggested that China could invest as much as $100 billion by buying bonds in the EU’s financial-stability fund.
That prospect has prompted some international economists to trumpet the Cannes G20 summit as ultimately marking a turning point in global economic affairs – from American dominance to Chinese supremacy.
“The Chinese buying bonds is nothing new, we know something about that ourselves,” says Groves, alluding to Chinese investment in American debt. “But the appearance, if not the reality, of a ‘Chinese bailout of Europe’ would have a sense of precedence to it and would be seen as some kind of turning point.”

And your slipper-licking peanut gallery needs to think about having themselves medicated.

This is more of the “smart” diplomacy we were promised. Truly, this man/child is socially inept. He seems to be the only one who laughs at his “jokes” – kind of like his “special olympics” “joke” on the Tonight Show.

Winning friends, and influencing people — that’s our President Jug-Ears.

Do you want the presidential choice of these scare quoting, half literate ass hats running this country? If not (personally, my soul mate’s life depends on the ability to have health coverage at all times) then let’s rub these morons faces into the blacktop.

http://www.barackobama.com/get-involved

I just contributed 10 dollars and will continue to contribute 10 dollars out of every paycheck until the election. Please— I’m begging you to vote for Obama in 2012, to vote for the most liberal representatives and senators that you can, and consider giving money to the campaigns of liberals running in other states.

Just askin’, but that TV-sitcom-dumpy-guy-with-really-hot-babe thing doesn’t actually happen in real life, does it?

‘Nuff said.

Has to pay better than the University of Montana.

You don’t rake in $300 for the first 30 mins.of a lecture? For shame, Helena!

God forbid, I think there’s hope for me yet.

Anyone know if Sophie Howard is single?

P.S. my s.o. ‘s Parisian cyberbuddy watched the press conference with the sound down (she does that) and she said it looked like they were going to blow each other.

Spearhafoc, I’m straight as a fuckin’ arrow, but I’d do her. Damn! Wolf whistle! Hubba, hubba!

but that TV-sitcom-dumpy-guy-with-really-hot-babe thing doesn’t actually happen in real life, does it?

Photographic documentation.

M. Bouffant, no, never played for the Cleveland Indians, but I am a fan of theirs (grew up in Akron). If someone could find some kosher bacon, I’d go halves with them on a load of it.
Slow day here, I take off to go see why the Vovo engine I installed last week is allegedly leaking oil, and it’s only up to a hundred-something posts.

This appears to be unbearable, S.C.

(IF that is your real name!)
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Hunting news
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creature, there is beef bacon, ‘though I can’t say I’ve ever tried it. And, I think, turkey bacon, but turkey a a substitute/ersatz version of anything is abomination in my book.

Maine hunter shot in Sebago, dies

I think we all know how painful being shot in the sebago is; no surprise it could be fatal.

Anyone know if Sophie Howard is single?

According to a quick Google search, it appears that she’s single. I call dibs on her. Oh, and Sammy Braddy. What? I like breasts and English accents. So sue me.

That adds to my already existing dibs on Karen Gillan, Alison Brie, Kristen Schaal, Katie McGrath…

Uh, let’s just say nobody can have sex with a woman until I get laid. It’s gonna be a long time, people.

The whole point of the article, including the headline, was to emphasize the fact that she had been misquoted, that the story had not happened as they had feared.

Well over half the comments to the story consisted of teeth gnashing and breast beating and bemoaning the injustice of that Big Old Meanie Lisa Jackson for calling them “jack booted thugs.”

*facepalm.jpg*

Sort of sums up the whole Conservative Movement though, don’t it?

Sure does.

Whether a thing is true, or logical, or has even a speck of common sense to it is far less important than how well it satisfies what conservatives want to think.

So how did the C.R.A., an Act passed by Jimmy Carter, result in an economic meltdown in the Bush-Cheney era, when whatever banking regulations left were barely enforced?

Does not matter. “The Government made banks make bad loans to the poors!”

So perfect for them that the fact that it’s not true, or even plausible, has no impact.
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Maine hunter shot in Sebago, dies

I read he got shot four times in the tabloids.

“if it pisses off liberals, it MUST be true!”

I read he got shot four times in the tabloids.

I once had an infection of the tabloids.

I had to drink lots and lots of water, and take these biiiig pills…

They’re white supremacists. I mean, there’s not much else to say. They are too dumb for dog-whistles and so skip straight past them to basically ranting that no one should say anything about looks when they are a damn thug n***er.

Yes, but my sense is that if Hillary had been elected, it would be EVEN WORSE, even MORE VILE. And if the Dems can somehow elect a Black WOMAN? Well, that would be all she wrote, right?

P.S. is wiley still here? ‘Cause I don’t bloody live in Oklahoma, for God’s sake!!

Not that there’s anything wrong with that…………………………..

The whole point of the article, including the headline, was to emphasize the fact that she had been misquoted, that the story had not happened as they had feared.

Well over half the comments to the story consisted of teeth gnashing and breast beating and bemoaning the injustice of that Big Old Meanie Lisa Jackson for calling them “jack booted thugs.”

When all you have is a shit-moat, everything looks like it’s going to deface your lawn-signs.

creature, there is beef bacon, ‘though I can’t say I’ve ever tried it.

I’ve had it. It’s not bad. Not the same as real bacon, but not bad.

Turkey bacon isn’t bad… you just can’t make gravy with it.

Never had beef bacon, but I am beef bacon-curious…
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‘Nuff said.

God almighty even I am better looking than that dude. Another example of Shania Law (that is based on Okasek’s Law) that goofy looking rich guys can snag the hottest babes in the universe.

Okasek’s Law

Ah, but there’s a price……………………back when all that was news, I saw Rick Ocasek at a newsstand on 6th Ave in the Village, loading up armfuls of fashion magazines and muttering under his breath…………………it was GREAT.

John, that makes me feel better. I much prefer a down-to earth woman who can carry on an intelligent conversation over some hot vacuous chick who thinks that escargot is a NASCAR team.

Big Dumb Jim & His Commenting Cretins have found something else to chew on:

Head and Body Lice Outbreak Announced at #Occupy Portland Squatters Camp (Video)

One A+ geography student offers a solution:

Throw the entire mess in the Puget Sound.

Hilarious!! Would that be after putting them on the Amtrak to Seattle?

Maybe they were thinking of a trebuchet.

The wingnuts do love their hygiene jokes about the DFHs, don’t they?

Thing is, it’s a function of the difference between Teabagger events, that last about 2 hours and maybe you can get validated parking for your Suburban, if you don’t take the Americans for Prosperity chartered bus – and people sleeping in tents in the open for 60+ days.

Fucking weekend warriors, the teabaggers.

Wonder what challenges there are to personal hygiene in combat zones in Afghanistan? Do you think they laugh about Our Troops having to piss outdoors, or use primitive latrines?

You know what annoys me the most about that picture I posted? Christina Hendricks’ husband doesn’t know how to properly button a waistcoat.

Leave the bottom one undone, people! I can’t stress this enough.

Does that apply to even a thee-button waistcoat?

Rules are made to be broken, you know.

Maybe they were thinking of a trebuchet.

Trebuche Guevara?

The time change kill this thing?

Errrr, Une petite (ou vielle) connard?

You know, for accuracy.

Did someone mention Janet Jackson? Get this

After enduring an embarrassing wardrobe malfunction back in 2004 at the Super Bowl half time show while performing alongside Justin Timberlake, a federal appeals court has finally ruled after a long back and forth battle that the FCC should not have fined both A Little While singer Janet Jackson and the CBS Network.

Of course they didn’t sue her over a technicality, but check this bleed— JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE TORE HER TOP OFF, WHY IN THE T-TIDDLY-BLUE FUCK WOULD THEY SUE JANET JACKSON? FOR HAVING BREASTS?! WTF?! CHRIST FLOSSING HIS TEETH WITH RAZOR WIRE— THIS COUNTRY HAS SHIT FOR BRAINS, SOMETIMES.

Why are so many people in this country so misogynist, backward, and MORONIC ? Is it something in the water or in our heinous diets?

WHY IN THE T-TIDDLY-BLUE FUCK WOULD THEY SUE JANET JACKSON? FOR HAVING BREASTS?!

Breastistry is theft!

Leave the bottom one undone, people! I can’t stress this enough.

That can be altered (pun intended)

The practice began, as it usually happens, in the British royal family. Edward VII got fat, and left his bottom button undone (like Ed VI and cuffed pants, the bastard). Commoners picked up on the fashion statement.

One *can* do up the bottom button in formal wear (such as that curious looking cactus has done) if one hasn’t expanded past the limits of the button.

It should be undone in less formal settings if one has any intent on sitting, since this limits the amount of roll-up the vest (waistcoats) experiences.

Personally, I think a done-up bottom button is a bold fashion statement, and should be encouraged.

Turkey bacon isn’t bad

we tried it once…hubbkf has banned it from our house…

Personally, I think a done-up bottom button is a bold fashion statement, and should be encouraged.

uh-oh…looks like the great waistcoat war of aught eleven has started…

Coulter.
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looks like the great waistcoat war of aught eleven has started

Truthfully, any young man with half a pence in his pocket ought to have his bottom button clad, as the fabric of his waistcoat would interfere greatly with the efficacy of removing his pocket watch!

So, according to Herman Cain, the harrassment story is over. The media should just move on and he is back on message.

Okay. So, from now on, the media should refer to Cain as a serial sexual predator and see if the story stays “over.”

Not so fast, smedley.

“A fourth woman is making sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain, claiming that the Republican presidential candidate exhibited inappropriate behavior when he was serving as head of the National Restaurant Association more than a decade ago, according to Michael van Poppel at BNO News.

The woman reportedly making the accusations will hold a press conference with her attorney Gloria Allred on Monday.”

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The woman reportedly making the accusations will hold a press conference with her attorney Gloria Allred on Monday

I respect Allred’s experience in sexual harassment cases, and that she’s had a fairly successful career in advancing the causes of women who have been harassed (and worse).

I just wish she came off as less of a self-indulgent shill.

Frankly, Herman Cain’s alleged candidacy is just a big distraction…the kind of shiny thing our media loves while they avoid reporting what’s really happening.

Take it away, Tom Tomorrow.
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the fabric of his waistcoat would interfere greatly with the efficacy of removing his pocket watch!

Is that a euphemism?

Is that a euphemism?

No sir! Albeit “winding his stem” would be.

the fabric of his waistcoat would interfere greatly with the efficacy of removing his pocket watch!

No. That’s just how he rolls. He’s a waistcoat-wearing, pocket watch-winding, son of a gun. He is single-handedly making spats sexy again. He is bringing back the cravat and he will cut anyone who gets in his way. He is a baaaaad man.

Pulling out your pocket watch.

winding your stem.

Ooh, shopworn. Sue me.

No. That’s just how he rolls. He’s a waistcoat-wearing, pocket watch-winding, son of a gun. He is single-handedly making spats sexy again. He is bringing back the cravat and he will cut anyone who gets in his way. He is a baaaaad man

I’m getting out my 1929 Sears catalog!

“The woman reportedly making the accusations will hold a press conference with her attorney Gloria Allred on Monday”

Who is going to protect her from Malkin’s flying monkeys?

We’re NOT talking about Tom Wolfe here are we?

No. That’s just how he rolls. He’s a waistcoat-wearing, pocket watch-winding, son of a gun. He is single-handedly making spats sexy again. He is bringing back the cravat and he will cut anyone who gets in his way. He is a baaaaad man.

He wears a monocle because he’s so badass he wears a glass.

Maine hunter shot in Sebago, dies

Wow. What happens if his wife gets shot in the Winnebagos?

Mang, ugly shit at my Alma mater. I don’t know if there’s a fire Joe Paterno facebook page yet but there’s a fire Spam Granier er, Graham Spanier (PSU President). I met Sandusky a couple times, wasn’t an obvious creep. I hope Joe gets as much shit over this as he deserves.

“Maine hunter shot in Sebago, dies”

Disappointed that it wasn’t a deer exercising his Second Amendment remedy.

Sounds like JoePa did the right thing but the higher-ups pulled a Pope on it. From what I saw on the morning carnage review news.

Poopy, LGM has three threads on it.

my take: Paterno hasn’t been in control of his faculties, much less his faculty, since the 90s. I’m thinking he’s out at the end of the season.

Pup-

Was JoePa ever referred to as “The Pope” of State College?

WC,

Go read the LGM stuff. It looks like JoePa knew about it years before he admitted he did.

Paterno hasn’t been in control of his faculties, much less his faculty, since the 90s. I’m thinking he’s out at the end of the season.

Nah, they’ll just stuff him and prop him up on the sidelines like the Russians used to do with Brezhnev.

We’ve been getting as much info as we can since the announcement (Sat.?). It’s pretty clear that he followed protocol but He never followed up. He said “I didn’t know it was sexual abuse or I would have done more.” For fuck sake the grad student told him he witnessed Sandusky molesting a 10 year old boy in the shower. He told the student to report it to Curley, when he c/should have done it personally. He wanted it out of his hands and he never followed up. He didn’t want to know. Scumbag.

The Ho contacted the Skull and Bones people (he’s a member) at PSU to call for them to bounce the two of the three main players that are Boners. Also President Spanier who shamefully closed his eyes and ears.

I shot an elephant in my pajamas.

For fuck sake the grad student told him he witnessed Sandusky molesting a 10 year old boy in the shower.

In truth, I think the grad student reported anal sodomy. That’s a bit more than molesting, not that it’s any more or less disgusting when it involves a kid that age

The Ho contacted the Skull and Bones people (he’s a member)

*GASP*

I shot an elephant in my pajamas.

In Hoft’s case, it’s a naked mole rat.

Skull and Bones people

The ones who made Steve Guttenberg a star?

snap…i decided to opt in on the *healthy* lunch offering at work today…after reading the disturbing joepa news, i now wish i would have brought a huge container of the italian stirfry we had last night…

The ones who made Steve Guttenberg a star?

No, that’s the Stonecutters. The Bonesmen steal single socks from the washing machine, and fix professional wrestling.

Speaking of pensées and vieux connards:

Proper Government Would End ‘Occupy Wall Street:’ When it comes to protecting individual rights and property, we actually need more government. Yours truly, Walter Hudson of PJMedia.

In the article, he slightly bristles at the teabaggers being labeled “anti government” when the real anarchists and revolutionaries are OWS. Nice to know they’re back to claiming the jackboots.

Cue the gays molest children poutrage in 3…2…1…

POBODY’S NERFEKT!

Jerk Store. Sarkozy should have used the Jerk Store line as a comeback. Works every time.

Bonus mango from Walter Hudson:

I would prefer to move toward no public property.

Trebuche Guevara?

I prefer a Trebushea Stadium.

I prefer a Trebushea Stadium.

Right on top of Shittyfield.

When it comes to protecting individual rights and property, we actually need more government.

Sooooooooooooooooo, lose the Second Amendment?

This whole Penn State thing is depressingly familiar, in that the perv had started a special charity to help “at-risk” kids (I’ll say they’re at risk) and that’s how he found the victim.

These bastards do that over and over. They cull troubled or isolated kids from the herd and prey on them, because not only are those they the most vulnerable, but if they do blow the whistle, they’re less likely to be believed.

I even heard of a teacher who made his students take a psychological profile questionnaire so he could find the most vulnerable ones.

This is why youth orgs have those long, creepy policies governing contact between adults and kids.

In yesterday’s Chicago Tribune, there was an article about “the Harvard of Santa Claus schools” wherein prospective Santa Clauses were advised never to say things like “I love children” and to wear white gloves so their hands would be more easily visible.

I hate our world sometimes. Specifically, I hate how a handful of depraved asswads can spoil things for the rest of the world.

Specifically, I hate how a handful of depraved asswads can spoil things for the rest of the world.

Indeed, that’s the only group that ever has.

When it comes to protecting individual rights and property, we actually need more government.

Except, of course, for the individual rights of speech, assembly and association.

Oh, wait…

Spare us any hubbub about the constitutional freedoms of speech, assembly, or association.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

That guy gives depraved asswads everywhere a bad name.

Tough room.

Proper Government Would End ‘Occupy Wall Street:’ When it comes to protecting individual rights and property, we actually need more government

Well, I’m going to guess that this particular streak of spoor isn’t likely to stick once I leave it there … but I just can’t let such a golden opportunity to drag my adorable little DEMONIC PORNO-PRICK butt-crack back & forth over Teh Magick-Pyjama Kingdom pass me by:

“Very telling the way the TEA Party follows the rules and the Occupiers don’t.”

Telling indeed: “protests” that pride themselves on always abiding by the rules, left OR right, are mainly dog-&-pony shows for the enrichment of their participants’ egos & little else. Both generated by crowds, both with signs, chanting & speeches – but real dissent has only a fleeting resemblance to a prefabricated con-job. The very idea of the TEA Party pulling off an occupation of this length (let alone doing so in the face of some very sincere police hostility) is low comedy at best. So too is the suggestion that it would then be emulated in 900 cities worldwide after five weeks.

Also very telling how yet another veteran has recently been attacked by police (& then ignored by them instead of being treated for serious injuries). Or how another car has mowed down more protestors – whereupon police charged the (again injured & in need of emergency care) people being run over with walking against the light, & let the driver go without any charges, again.

Yes, the growing threat of these insane dope-crazed fiends somehow convincing America to finally wise up & go after the white-collar crime mob that keeps grifting it into bankruptcy must be averted, with deadly force if necessary – FOR FREEDOM!

Perhaps next you could consider looking into making all protestors wear armbands whenever they go outdoors, with numbers tattooed on their arms to ID them – would that make them frighten you less?

November 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am*

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*Standard Not Very Fucking Likely Ever Time

Trebuchet La Vie would make one hell of an epic band name.

That is all.

Oh dear, guess I misunderestimated someone’s moxie, by Jingo! My Magickal Pyjama Kingdom spoor posted at 10:50.

Halp, I’m about to be gang-pouted!!!!!!!

You know, for accuracy.

For complete accuracy:

Definition: (familiar) – idiot, jerk, schmuck

C’est un vrai connard ! – He’s a real jerk!

Related: une connarde / une connasse (familiar) – bitch, cow

‘Though I’m inclined to think of Big Dumb Jim as more sexless than feminine.

And, I typed “asse!”

jim, that is one top notch comment, and you sir, deserve a martini.

Bouf,

The colloquial would be “dickhead” in France. I’m not sure how fat Belgian bastards view it, however.

I always understood it to mean “asshole.” I think that’s how Google Translate renders it.

(Not that I would ever be declassé enough to use Google Translate, of course. But I heard about it. From a friend.)

I meant “déclassé”

Ne faites pas confiance à Google de traduire l’argot:

Connard

Ou Connard

Sparing the hubbub.

you sir, deserve a martini

Well, I don’t deserve ALL the reward.
Surely the nutty palooka that let that pungent spoor through intact (37th, bizzitchez!) deserves the olive?

Got yer back in there, jim.

CLENIS

You know who else suppressed the vote?

The occupiers are a symptom of the disease of immorality, or sin.
oh my!

The government cannot “force” people to do what’s right. But the government can force people to do its will. That’s why Liberals and Democrats love dictators so they can get unquestioned allegience for their “good” and “right” ideas from the people.
what am i missing here? i’ve heard this overandover for years, but i just don’t get it…i’m fairly liberal but i don’t love dictators…or am i missing a distinction they’ve made? cuz when i hear ‘dictator’ i think of ‘stalin’ or ‘mussolini’ or ‘hitler’ or ‘chavez’ or ‘saddam.’ are there, like, nice dictators?

Next year our people will meet their people and we will see who ends up running America.
i hope it’s the dfh-s….

are there, like, nice dictators?

Well, there was that nice Shah and that nice Qaddafi fella the Bushies played footsie with and Saddam before he became useful and who was that guy in Liberia?

CLENIS

One of my female conservative friends I’ve occasionally bitched about here had this to say: “If Cain is the nominee, I’m not voting.”

Granted, she’s not exactly from the populist wing of the party. Nevertheless, GOOOOOOOD.

“If Cain is the nominee, I’m not voting.”

So she won’t pull Cain’s lever?

Jabba the Hutt weighs in.
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i know the onion, and you, sir…are not the onion…

Jabba the Hutt weighs in.

It’s interesting to watch Rush have to actually fight for publicity

i know the onion, and you, sir…are not the onion…

I could probably have gone the rest of my life not feeding that site hits.

Spare us any hubbub about the constitutional freedoms of speech, assembly, or association

because his right never to see or hear dissent(or HIPPIES) trumps all that.

The government cannot “force” people to do what’s right. But the government can force people to do its will. That’s why Liberals and Democrats love dictators so they can get unquestioned allegience for their “good” and “right” ideas from the people.

This guy is just coming from another forced sharia gaybortion.

what am i missing here? i’ve heard this overandover for years, but i just don’t get it…i’m fairly liberal but i don’t love dictators…or am i missing a distinction they’ve made? cuz when i hear ‘dictator’ i think of ‘stalin’ or ‘mussolini’ or ‘hitler’ or ‘chavez’ or ‘saddam.’ are there, like, nice dictators?

Despite his fiery rhetoric, reflexive anti-americanism and admiration for Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez has been very good for certain parts of the population of Venezuela. Under his rule, quite a bit of money has been spent on women, indigenous people and the poor. Much of his opposition has been from the the wealthy and business community. He’s not necessarily on the side of the angels, but as far as what could be considered cynical pandering to retain political power goes, there’s a lot worse ways to do it then spending on education health care and infrastructure.

Depraved Asswad

Are you of the Syrian or the Egyptian Asswads? I knew someone from the Egyptian branch, Mahmoud. He told me the Syrian Asswads made the Egyptian Asswads look like real Asswads.

That’s why Liberals and Democrats love dictators so they can get unquestioned allegience for their “good” and “right” ideas from the people.

And this from someone who agrees the government should shut down the protests because it’s symptomatic of SIN? How self-deluded and internally inconsistent can one person be?

Under his rule, quite a bit of money has been spent on women, indigenous people and the poor

boob jobs do not count…

Oh my. No wonder Rush has been furiously spinning and mocking the woman in question.

Cain practically raped her.

i know the onion, and you, sir…are not the onion…

Nothing makes me cringe quite like people with no sense of humor trying to be funny.

This guy is just coming from another forced sharia gaybortion.

ha! i needed that laff…

Not Mitt Romney.

NMR Coalition co-founder Ali Akbar, a Republican communications consultant and Vice President, Digital Strategy, at Vice and Victory Agency, said, “Primaries are a good place to vet and try a candidate. Mitt Romney is that candidate and this primary is far from over. A nominee, worse a President, whom we have no idea where he stands on the issues presents a danger to our Party’s brand and this unique time in history where true reforms can actually happen. The American people want truth and the Republican Party would do well to offer it, lest we snatch defeat from victory’s jaws again.”

boob jobs do not count…

Why do you hate the poor?

Ali Akbar, a Republican

Say what now? Sure this isn’t an Onion plant?

Oh my. No wonder Rush has been furiously spinning and mocking the woman in question.

g dang it! i couldn’t read that article w/out hearing the slurpy noise rush made when teaching his ditto-heads how to say bialeck…ewwwww…

boob jobs do not count…

Why do you hate the poorrn?

FiXXXored.

I know the conservative-Tea Party GOP wanted to frame the Cain scandal as the new Anita Hill, but “blond white woman” does not equal “Anita Hill.” The inner racism of many of Cain’s supporters will trump his ideological appeal.

Dennis annoys me. I am deleting his comments and he’s about to get banned. Because I’m grumpy today.

Christmas came early!

I know the conservative-Tea Party GOP wanted to frame the Cain scandal as the new Anita Hill, but “blond white woman” does not equal “Anita Hill.”

Especially when said woman is a registered Republican. They were never really into Cain, they just hated Romney so much they chose Cain in polls. Cain was also a convenient “but I have black friends” beard for the racists.

Say what now? Sure this isn’t an Onion plant?

I wondered myself, but ol’ John Hawkins is also involved.

Nothing makes me cringe quite like people with no sense of humor trying to be funny.

No kidding. Who thinks beating people senseless is funny? Their lame-ass jokes are dark little trips into their twisted psyches, like some sort of fever nightmare It’s a Small World ride. I mean worse than the nightmare of the original.

i couldn’t read that article w/out hearing the slurpy noise rush made when teaching his ditto-heads how to say bialeck

Y’know, as much as I hate the guy and as big an ass as he is, you have to admire the subtlety of his hate-mongering.

He could have just come out and said “She’s a crazy bitch! Don’t listen to her!” but look at what he’s done by making even YOU have difficulty remembering the context!

Got yer back in there, jim.

Well, actually I left already due to my looming wave of spiritual nausea at the tepid sea of id-driven ennui & FEH that I was pissing into by responding to some emo shit-for-brains’ reply cowardly liberal terror instead of facing so much righteous traditional American exceptionalism incarnate, so, um, yeah, er …

COME AT THEM, BRAH?

Dennis annoys me. I am deleting his comments and he’s about to get banned. Because I’m grumpy today.

Christmas came early!

Well, here, yes. I just wonder what new blog he’s going to stalk me at.

what am i missing here?

The fact that wingnuts think they know what’s right and good for society, and have a right to use the government to impose it on society, and are outraged at the notion that there are people out there who might have different ideas of what’s “right” and “good.” So really, nothing here but classic wingnut projection.

Despite his fiery rhetoric, reflexive anti-americanism and admiration for Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez has been very good for certain parts of the population of Venezuela. Under his rule, quite a bit of money has been spent on women, indigenous people and the poor. Much of his opposition has been from the the wealthy and business community. He’s not necessarily on the side of the angels, but as far as what could be considered cynical pandering to retain political power goes, there’s a lot worse ways to do it then spending on education health care and infrastructure.

Yeah, in addition to all that, I hesitate to call him a “dictator,” even if he is a bit of a clown personally, and way too in love with the sound of his own voice. Democratic countries often have very popular leaders gather a lot of personal power around themselves like Chavez has (for better or for worse), but the system survived. If we’re going to call Chavez a dictator, can we say the same thing about Andrew Jackson? Lincoln? FDR? Johnson? Nixon? Reagan? George W. Bush? How about Winston Churchill? How about Charles De Gaulle? How about Berlusconi, who’s been in power twice as long as Chavez using methods at least as questionable (including Mafia ties in his case)? How about the LDP in Japan, which via crony alliances with the government bureaucracy and big business, managed to rule Japan for half a century straight? Are we calling all these things dictatorships too?

As far as I can tell, Chavez is much more like any of these previous cases than like Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Castro. Again, I’m not his biggest fan. But most of what he’s done, as far as I can tell, doesn’t especially stick out when compared with many of the leaders we’ve had here in the “democratic” West. And unlike many of these guys I just cited, the basis of his popularity actually includes helping his people. George W. “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job!” Bush could’ve learned a thing or two from that. Berlusconi still could.

Dennis annoys me. I am deleting his comments and he’s about to get banned. Because I’m grumpy today.

Christmas came early!

Tintin has spoken.

Latest Herman Cain bumper sticker.

Are we calling all these things dictatorships too?

We know what you’re thinking, Chris. Might as well say it: the American presidency.

Cain is even more toasty toast than he was already. This is goodznews for John McCain.

Well, there was that nice Shah and that nice Qaddafi fella the Bushies played footsie with and Saddam before he became useful and who was that guy in Liberia?

Plus Somoza 1 & 2, Duvalier 1 & 2, Rios Montt, Pinochet, Marcos, Suharto……

You know a bitch who spends as much time talking about how unattractive and unfeminine liberal women are should have the sense to wax her fucking mustache. (referring to Coulter, of course)

You know, if you’re in office because you got elected, act in accordance with the laws while in office, and leave when your last legal term is over, you just might not be a dictator, EVEN IF YOU’RE LIBERAL! Just because a leader does things crazy dude doesn’t like (or doesn’t do things he would like)doesn’t make that leader a dictator, no matter how hard crazy dude claps. He pulled the “liberals love dictators” out of his ass because dictator sounds like a bad word, when the only really bad word to him is “liberal.” I mean C’MON the guy is bitching about Holder not cracking down on the Black Panthers for the bullshit the righties made up, dude does NOT have a problem with authoritarianism.

Plus Somoza 1 & 2, Duvalier 1 & 2, Rios Montt, Pinochet, Marcos, Suharto……

…the Greek junta, Franco, Nguen Van Thieu, Lon Nol (until we had him shot), Chiang Kai-shek, Noriega (until we arrested him), Motubu, Botha…

Latest Herman Cain bumper sticker.

Brutal. I LOLded.

Botha…

You can’t fool me! That’s a character from Star Wars

You know, I’m not disappointed in President Obama because I think he’s exactly who he presented himself to be during the 2008 campaign. I knew he wasn’t as liberal as I am, no President has been, not even Carter, who I voted for in my first election, and whom I adore. I know I’m pretty far to the left of most Americans, and I’m fine with that in a representative democracy, right? I trust that President Obama is both sane and a person of conscience. Should we just start sayin’ “Vote Obama in 2012 because he’s not psychotic and is capable of feeling shame,” because that’s what this feels like.

can we say the same thing about Andrew Jackson?

huh…never thought of it that way…based on his extermination record, imma say ‘yes!’

Noriega (until we arrested him)

Is that what we did to him?

yeah, what wiley said at 23:37…

Is that what we did to him?

didn’t we earworm him too?

Should we just start sayin’ “Vote Obama in 2012 because he’s not psychotic and is capable of feeling shame,” because that’s what this feels like.

Or, as Firesign Theatre would have it, “He’s not insane!“

didn’t we earworm him too?

If by “earworm” you mean deafened.

Ozzy Osbourne, strategic tactical weapon.

wiley the intrepid go and get some mangos said,

I never thought Obama was some ultra liberal who just happened to sneak in under the radar either; it baffles me that some people can understand that there was no mass conspiracy to make a Kenyan Communist Muslim president yet they freak out because he hasn’t acted like a progressive version of Bush. I mean, look at this media and the political process; there’s no way a even a modern-day liberal will sniff the nomination without compromising him or herself in some way.

strategic tactical

I’m going to correct you on your usage here. To describe a weapon as both strategic and tactical is a contradiction. Strategic is generally used to mean “big”, so big that your entire strategy is based on that weapon. For example, if the problem is an all out shootin’ match with the USSR the answer is strategic nuclear missiles. Missiles big enough to erase cities.

Tactical means small(er). Small enough that it is just one part of an overall strategy. For example, if the objective is just to bust that particular bunker, one might consider a tactical weapon, like a bunker buster bomb or equivalent.

Based on this we can call Ozzy a tactical acoustic weapon.

Noriega (until we arrested him)

Arrested and imprisoned. I think he just got out.

The overthrow/bust inspired one of the all-time great NY Post headlines:

PINEAPPLE IN THE CAN

(referring to his nickname, which alludes to his less-than-pristine complexion)

If by “earworm” you mean deafened.

i did indeed…you should know by now my subtlety…

To describe a weapon as both strategic and tactical is a contradiction.

It’s motherfucking Ozzy, motherfucker! If he wants to fucking be BOTH strategic and fucking tactical he can fucking be whatever the fuck Ozzy wants to fucking be!

🙂

BTW, anybody ever download Ozzy’s GPS voiceover?

Fucking brilliant!

PENIS delightful children’s tale character.

BTW, anybody ever download Ozzy’s GPS voiceover?

Knew it had to be posted online somewhere….

To describe a weapon as both strategic and tactical is a contradiction.

Some of the “crowd pleasers” we carried on the B-52 could be dialed up or down from a few kilotons (tactical) to 1.2 megatons (holy fucking shit).

Some of the “crowd pleasers” we carried on the B-52 could be dialed up or down from a few kilotons (tactical) to 1.2 megatons (holy fucking shit).

The “crowd” being pleased was thousands of miles away, I imagine.

Some of the “crowd pleasers” we carried on the B-52 could be dialed up or down from a few kilotons (tactical) to 1.2 megatons (holy fucking shit).

I once read a novel where a character was on the run after pestering the SAC to record an ultimate version of the 1812 overture with those providing the percussion.

I once read a novel where a character was on the run after pestering the SAC to record an ultimate version of the 1812 overture with those providing the percussion.

V for Vendetta will be hard to top.

The “crowd” being pleased was thousands of miles away, I imagine.

Yes. We carried 4 of those things, plus 12 cruise missiles. On one aircraft. Hard to wrap your mind around it.

Freedumb teabag style

I do not know if the owners of the park have recourse. The NYC administration is unwilling to evict the terrorist from Vuccotti Park. There are laws prohibiting just about all of what OCCUPY is doing in ALL of its locations. At the risk of stating the obvious, this occupation will not end well for the OCCUPY idiots, the police, or the cities. The terrorists and the Lame Scream Media will get what THEY want, and that is dead idiot demonstrators.

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There are laws prohibiting just about all of what OCCUPY is doing in ALL of its locations

Really? Cuz if that were true, they would have been evicted a long time ago. As I recall, the OWS folks GOT PERMITS to do exactly what they are doing.

Do these people actually rea– um, nevermind.

Lets see what malkin is up to shall we.

http://michellemalkin.com/
Circus Circus: Gloria Allred jumps on the Cain Train; Cain staff “welcomes” Allred to staff; Update: Accuser is Sharon Bialek; Allred snarks about Cain’s “stimulus package”

Or, as Firesign Theatre would have it, “He’s not insane!“

Still (I think) have a “Not Insane/Papoon for Pres.” button, as shown there. (I’d have to go look in something to confirm, & I just can’t be arsed.)

The terrorists and the Lame Scream Media will get what THEY want, and that is dead idiot demonstrators.

If that guy didn’t chub when he wrote that I’ll eat a hat made of bacon.

I’ll eat a hat made of bacon.

As if that would be punishment!
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If that guy didn’t chub when he wrote that I’ll eat a hat made of bacon.

Why not pork liver sausage? That’s usually sold in chubs. Nice symbiosis.

I’ll eat a hat made of bacon.

Speak for youself, buster.

http://www.zazzle.com/bacon+hats
http://www.royalbaconsociety.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pork-hat.jpg

A Pork Pie hat, now I’d nom that

Well, I’m a vegetarian so it would have to be tofu bacon.

That was to Jeffraham, obv, so he’d be able to better judge the punishment level.

The terrorists and the Lame Scream Media will get what THEY want, and that is dead idiot demonstrators.

This is what happens when you use words without any sense of their actual meaning for decades on end. You can’t tell DFHs from suicide bombers.

ot: making ham steak with baby mashed taters and sweet corn from the garden…the gravy alone is causing me to swoon…dessert is leftover triple choco bundt cake w/whipped cream and chocolate sauce…

Well, atypical cat pixels, then.
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baby mashed taters

Do they taste better with drool mixed in or something?

Tonight will be rotisserie chicken and ebil liebral ACORN! squash.

Put seasoning on chicken. Rotisserie the chicken. Cut it up when it’s done.

Cut evil ACORN! squash in half. Scoop out the middle yucky stuff and throw it out. Bake cut-side down for a while. Flip over, add butter and brown sugar and spices and stuff. Bake some more. Scoop out gooey yummyness. Put it in a bowl or something, cause otherwise it’s gonna be really messy.

Eat the chicken. And the squash. Drink something good while you’re at it. Eat the leftovers tomorrow for lunch.

Do you have to keep wiping the tears from their tiny eyes?

Scoop out the middle yucky stuff and throw it out

The seeds are tasty when roasted.

Do you have to keep wiping the tears from their tiny eyes?

The chicken came with the head removed already, and the squash don’t have eyes. I hope.

There is algae in the shopworn hot tub and now there are chickens with no heads. On a SNARK BLOG of all places.

I’m very concerned.

the gravy alone is causing me to swoon

Heh.

As if there’s something snarkier than a headless chicken.

There is algae in the shopworn hot tub and now there are chickens with no heads. On a SNARK BLOG of all places.

Not to mention baby slavery, mashing all those taters.

This hot tub is messy.

This hot tub is messy.

Are you sure it isn’t a stew pot?

STEW BEEF!
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OBS, that was for the baby mashed potatoes.

Baby mash! Mah baby mash!
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I find that most babies don’t have the strength to mash the potatoes thoroughly, and I don’t dig lumps in mah praties!

I got mad at my radio because the Talk of the Nation dope acknowledged that we have to “share sacrifice” in our effort of mitigate the deficit.

Let’s see here…corporate profits are at an all time high, the rich are exponentially richer than at any time since before The Great Depression (what we all called the Robber Baron Age previously), and real wages for everyone except the rich have gone down. Poverty rates hit a new record. Education is nearly out of reach for all but the upper middle class, unless you wish to be financially hobbled by loan debt for ten years following your education, which has an ever shrinking potential for getting you a living wage job. Energy prices are out of control, driving up the price of everything else…

I think we’ve sacrificed enough. But that’s just my opinion.

I think we’ve sacrificed enough. But that’s just my opinion.

You’re just an ungrateful lucky ducky. Your sparrow is much bigger than that other guy’s, under the next overpass.

I sure hope that one of you Frenchy Fairy Liberal Socialist Commie Alinsky-Lovers photoshopped this pic, otherwise I’m gonna have to delete my Gateway Dumbshit bookmark! No Real He-Man American Patriot would pose with an AK-47 like some Russki KGB poof! The only time you ever seen Rambo use an AK-47 is when it’s all he can get his Red White ‘n’ Blue hands on for slaughtering hordes of slanty-eyed yellow demon reds! But he goes into battle like a Real He-Man American Patriot! With his killin’ tools MADE IN THE USA BABY!

IIRC Hoft’s mad gun skilz were well covered on a precious occasion that was posted. Also IIRC, even some of his cretinous but semi gun-knowledgable common taters took him, to task.

You know, I’m not disappointed in President Obama because I think he’s exactly who he presented himself to be during the 2008 campaign.

He didn’t present himself as a corrupt servant of the banksters.

I recommend this link.
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ESPN, keeping it classy

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/52307/how-does-psu-scandal-affect-recruiting

Meatless Monday. Butternut squash risotto, warm bean salad over greens.

I just ordered my turkey from New Seasons. Diestl heritage breed turkey, range grown on an organic vegetarian diet free of antibiotics. Same kind of bird I got last year. Fab.

Diestl heritage breed turkey, range grown on an organic vegetarian diet free of antibiotics.

imma get a hutterite turkey this year…i’m telling you, ‘food, inc.’ really creeped me out about buying meat at the store…

You know, I’m not disappointed in President Obama because I think he’s exactly who he presented himself to be during the 2008 campaign.

I recommend this link.

And Clinton didn’t campaign as a fiscal conservative either but (as Thom Hartmann constantly reminds his listeners) once he got into office Alan Greenspan sat him down and “showed him how the world works.”

It’s easy to forget that after we vote fresh faces into office, they have to deal with the career politicians and lifers who fuck things up work behind the scenes to keep the status quo. The “change” that needs to occur has to be done at the core; presidents and congressmen/women and justices are all well and good, but all these staffers and aides and cabinet members are just as important. Sadly, people rarely weight these positions, thinking that as long as their candidate gets in, it’s all good. The truth is, none of these elected officials are Jacks/Janes of All Trades and they will defer on issues/areas they know/care little about. And it’s because of this I’m always skeptical when there’s a new person in Washington carrying the Liberal Baton of Hope; they’ll eventually say/do/endorse something that will piss of the base and cries of “traitor!” will ring up until the next poor schmuck sticks their neck out.

Pryme said,
November 8, 2011 at 5:17

All true – this is why movement conservatives spent so much time and money over the decades setting up parallel institutions (like think tanks or media organizations) or taking over existing ones (like the Republican Party and its branches like the College Republicans) that would provide these kinds of people. It enables the current system in which it’s very easy to be a professional conservative, hopping around between government bureaucracies, political organizations, media networks, think tanks or the private sector, as long as you say the right shibboleths and know a couple of the right people. There’s no equivalent for us.

It enables the current system in which it’s very easy to be a professional conservative, hopping around between government bureaucracies, political organizations, media networks, think tanks or the private sector, as long as you say the right shibboleths and know a couple of the right people.

today soucheray made a comment about how *they* only really dig into the backgrounds of conservatives…dem’s get a pass apparently…this of course was directly after the ‘why bring up these allegations against cain now?’ question…i am just so tired of their perpetual victimhood while they are some of the most powerful motherfuckers around…it’s enough to give a normal person a psychotic break…

and i realize i should have said ‘sane’ and not ‘normal’

i sincerely hope spearhafoc is NOT watching the daily show…i’m pretty sure clint eastwood is breaking every haberdashery rule ever written…

today soucheray made a comment about how *they* only really dig into the backgrounds of conservatives…dem’s get a pass apparently

Yeah, that’s why Clinton was harassed perpetually and had to spend the end of his administration embroiled in a bullshit attempt at impeachment. Yep… libs get a pass.

Yeah, that’s why Clinton was harassed perpetually and had to spend the end of his administration embroiled in a bullshit attempt at impeachment. Yep… libs get a pass.

yep…and just like nobody knew a thing about obama before he was elected…i mean, it was all like, ‘where was he born? who cares?!?!? we think it’s neat that our first african american president will be a democrat!’

Goddamn, who the fuck recommended Redstate? I have a bone to pick!
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I’m a week behind. What’s he doing?

And the other thing, of course, is that neither Clinton nor Obama is anything close to being a ‘liberal’.

That’s another big lie the right screeches all 24/7 to influence policy. And it works, because the media is owned by the plutocrats, too.

None of which means I’m giving Clinton and/or Obama a pass. The Democratic party these days does not represent any actual voters, as Matt Taibbi points out.

Clinton kicked that process (the elimination of the Democratic party as actual opposition to the Republicans) into overdrive, and Obama has just about sealed the deal.
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I’m a week behind. What’s he doing?</i.

i think he was actually wearing a polo shirt with a tie and jacket…it was all very ill-fitting as well…of course the dude's pretty old and a freaking legend, but still…

that’s a totes new tagfail for me, people…just wanted you to take notice…

Goddamn, who the fuck recommended Redstate? I have a bone to pick!

the movie or irky irksome?

Sometimes breaking all the rules at once works in an insane, wacky sort of way. Sometimes.

Omar from The Wire wearing a tie tied like a scarf in his court appearance was great.

the movie or irky irksome?

The flick! I wasted my November freebie from Redbox on that!

And, I offered a redhead a ride on the scooter, right after picking it up, too. Red Monday!
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And, I offered a redhead a ride on the scooter, right after picking it up, too. Red Monday!

Then the movie wasn’t entirely a waste, was it?

Then the movie wasn’t entirely a waste, was it?

Well, she was too scared to ride on the back of massive scooter, so…
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Off topic thought of the day:
When Rush Limbaugh dies, Hell will burn a little brighter . . . you know, because of all the bacon fat.

Does this bozo imagine that the Lady of the Lake arose and bequeathed x-caliber to one who clearly couldn’t handle a pea-shooter?

If no-one else is going to bother with a “Hoist on his own connard” joke, can I have it?

It’s yours dude.

Not to mention baby slavery, mashing all those taters.

FREE TEH TATER TOTS!

Wow. Anyone want to start a pool as to how long it takes for me to become Gavin, too?

Gavin212

Wow. Anyone want to start a pool as to how long it takes for me to become Gavin, too?

i just figured pennis found a new ip and a new stalkee to go along with it…but your theory is much more interesting…

ha….just read this quote from flannery o’connor:

I hope you don’t have friends who recommend Ayn Rand to you. The fiction of Ayn Rand is as low as you can get re: fiction. I hope you picked it up off the floor of the subway and threw it in the nearest garbage pail. She makes Mickey Spillane look like Dostoevsky.

If no-one else is going to bother with a “Hoist on his own connard” joke, can I have it?

I was just going to ask why Tintin thought it appropriate to pluralize “pensées” – maybe with a comment that Hoft’s EPIC level of FAIL requires it to be considered as polyFAILia.

Oh jesus. We have a new pet fuckface? We hadn’t even potty-trained the last one.

I suggest we put him down.

Ooh! Eliminationist language!

To take a break from regularly scheduled troll-feeding.

Bobo today on Medicare… Turn this knob, push this button, ignore every single piece of academic research done on market failure and medical insurance And look, ponies for everyone!

Romney would create a premium support system, but he would also give seniors the option of a government-run insurance plan that works a lot like the current fee-for-service Medicare

This is politically smart because Democrats cannot legitimately charge that Romney is “ending Medicare.” But it is also substantively smart because, while people like me believe that intense competition among private insurers will lead to more innovation and cost reduction, we can’t really be sure. The Romney approach sets up a prudent experiment. If real competition works, seniors will migrate toward that. If it doesn’t, seniors will stay in Medicare and conservatives will have a lot of rethinking to do.

Would be nice if conservatives did some thinking, let alone rethinking. Insurance markets are prone to failure, medical insurance especially so, and medical insurance for the elderly so acutely so that it’s the sort setting-monkeys-loose-in-Norad scenario for dismal scientists.

On a cynical douchebag like Romney would ever sell such nonsense, and only a dumb fuck like Bobo would buy it.

We hadn’t even potty-trained the last one.

– Sound of newspaper being rolled up –

Apparently, Bill Bennet has been in a poker-induced coma for all his life.

I was just going to ask why Tintin thought it appropriate to pluralize “pensées”

Well, he has more than one thought. Many fragments, but more than one thought.

The Romney approach sets up a prudent experiment.

So basically, my mom and dad would have been lab chimps?

So basically, my mom and dad would have been lab chimps?

I’m going to regret leaving that one out there, ain’t I?

I’m going to regret leaving that one out there, ain’t I?

We’ll just let that sit there so we can admire it, shall we?

Apparently, Bill Bennet has been in a poker-induced coma for all his life.

It’s been a frigging long life:

Through the instruction of my family and teachers I was exposed to other heroes and heroines, like Lou Gehrig, Abraham Lincoln, King David, Esther, Mother Courage, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and so on. Today, heroes like these are in shorter supply.

So basically, my mom and dad would have been lab chimps?

Well, they didn’t have supple, fresh young organs for Dick Cheney.

Wait… Bennett listed Mother Courage as one of his personal heroines?

The Mother Courage who Bertold Brecht characterized as a war profiteer who pretty much sells out all her children?

This explains so much– it really does.

AROO! AROO! Breaking News!

The cops have Broadway completely closed, to both traffic and pedestrians, north and south of Zuccotti Park. I don;t what’s up, but hipster cleansing may be about to commence.

Socialism, Obama style

If they pull that authoritarian nonsense on Election Day, that’ll be some low-down, dirty pool, and if they think that will stop the protests, they’re a lot dumber than they think they are.

The Mother Courage who Bertold Brecht characterized as a war profiteer who pretty much sells out all her children?

Well, in the play, she does try to protect them, but ultimately her greed overpowers her, but yea. That’s the one.

If they pull that authoritarian nonsense on Election Day, that’ll be some low-down, dirty pool, and if they think that will stop the protests, they’re a lot dumber than they think they are.

I know. On the other hand, I was almost run over by a falafel cart as its proprietor fled the area.

Looks like they’re trying to evict OWS!

Claims are a suspicious package was reported at Zuccoti

It looks like things are calming down a little now

Mangoes! Gitcher mangoes here!

In all these [new TV] shows, men have become the butt of the jokes.

Ooh, that’s not a meme that’s been kicked around for 30 years. Those poor men, always the butt of the jokes, not like the manly men of Gilligan’s Island or The Honeymooners.

This year there will be more women CEOs of Fortune 500 companies than ever before.

To borrow a phrase from our benificent overlords, Sadly, No! Although I remember hearing that maybe as many as 17 F500 CEOs exist, that may not quite be representative of the outside population, except in Bennet’s fevered imagination.

Certainly, the far-left feminist movement has sought to diminish the role of men, but a majority of women want able, competent men of their equal.

Nice. Get a dig in at the “far-left feminists”, divine (divinely, one presumes) the thinking of “a majority of women” and channel Pastor Swank all in one sentence. It’s a trifecta of FAIL!

A mere hundred years ago, man couldn’t afford to dawdle in limbo between adolescence and manhood; manhood was thrust upon him for survival. Today, more opportunity lies at his feet than ever.

Riiight. With 9% unemployment and that much higher for youth, opportunity has been spread before us like the debris field of a crashed airliner. What we need is less opportunity, which would act as a cleansing fire that would mold men into manly men.

Instead of industriousness, responsibility and entrepreneurship, these men [protesting at OWS] demand free college education, required living wages and greater distribution of someone else’s wealth. Rather than look inward and rely on their own self-sufficiency, they look for a handout. A man’s livelihood once depended on his hands, back and brain. Today, the government can do all that for him, if he lets it.

Yeah! Bad, lazy men, demanding opportunity and a living wage and not to be saddled with crippling debt out of college. Worst of all, they want the 1% to contribute something more than McDonalds job applications. The nerve!

The forces of imitation can be either constructive or destructive, making it essential that boys imitate the right kind of men. My brother and I were raised by a single mother, but she went through any pains necessary to put good men in our lives — good priests, teachers and coaches.

And today’s headlines show what great men priests and coaches are.

Wait, what?

Through the instruction of my family and teachers I was exposed to other heroes and heroines, like Lou Gehrig, Abraham Lincoln, King David, Esther, Mother Courage, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and so on. Today, heroes like these are in shorter supply.

Hang on, leaving out the fictional characters, didn’t Martin Luther King march in the streets demanding handouts like dignity for his people, opportunity and wealth redistribution?

In all these [new TV] shows, men have become the butt of the jokes.

Ooh, that’s not a meme that’s been kicked around for 30 years. Those poor men, always the butt of the jokes, not like the manly men of Gilligan’s Island or The Honeymooners.

George of the Jungle and Magilla Gorilla were quite manly.

Also, Lou Gehrig was an intelligent man who maintained his dignity while publicly discussing his fatal disease and his public career. I respect that, but I’m unclear on what constitutes heroics in those actions.

Bill Bennett:

My brother and I were raised by a single mother, but she went through any pains necessary to put good men in our lives — good priests, teachers and coaches.

Heh heh. Just because she was screaming all teh time, doesn;t mean she was in pain.

Also, Lou Gehrig was an intelligent man who maintained his dignity while publicly discussing his fatal disease and his public career. I respect that, but I’m unclear on what constitutes heroics in those actions.

Well he also batted .340 lifetime.

Apparently, Bill Bennet has been in a poker-induced coma for all his life.

I never heard that Bennett played poker, which actually requires skill and discipline to play well. All he did, AFAIK, was sit and feed slot machines. In terms of intellectual rigor, that’s half a step down from the bilge he now spews. Remind me again why anyone pays attention to this guy?

George of the Jungle and Magilla Gorilla were quite manly.

Dudley Do Right springs to mind as well

“tigris’ arteries” comment above was actually me, if anyone cares.

Recent seismic activity explained.

My brother and I were raised by a single mother, but she went through any pains necessary to put good men in our lives — good priests, teachers and coaches.

That may explain it.

Also, Lou Gehrig was an intelligent man who maintained his dignity while publicly discussing his fatal disease and his public career. I respect that, but I’m unclear on what constitutes heroics in those actions.

ALS is a death sentence. It’s incurable and even the longest lasting survivors like Stephen Hawking have to overcome enormous odds just to perform the simplest tasks.

He worked for two years as the city’s chief parole officer until he finally died in 1941

Fuck. Nymfail.

A mere hundred years ago, man couldn’t afford to dawdle in limbo between adolescence and manhood; manhood was thrust upon him for survival.

Sometimes, more than once: in the Penn State shower and behind the altar.

Fuck. Nymfail.

I was picturing the waggling eyebrows and waving cigar. Perfect, actually.

I don’t get it.

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Drink the sweet, sweet tears of Erick son of Erick: http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/11/08/mitt-romney-as-the-nominee-conservatism-dies-and-barack-obama-wins/

Don’t mind me, I never showed up in the movies.

Drink the sweet, sweet tears of Erick son of Erick

From your lips to God’s ear, Irky

Claims are a suspicious package was reported at Zuccoti

I’ll bet Bloomberg’s return address is on the wrapper!

A man’s livelihood once depended on his hands, back and brain.

Says the guy with the gambling addiction.

Don’t mind me, I never showed up in the movies.

You and me both, buddy.

Damn, Bitter Scribe done stepped on mah comment’s dick.

You and me both, buddy.

Me too. Wanna play with my train set?

Drink the sweet, sweet tears of Erick son of Erick

Thank you for that. Sweet and delicious, best I’ve had in a long time.

I wasn’t either but my apparel was.

Me too. Wanna play with my train set?

No thanks, I’m just going to sing.

Shorter Megan McArdle (TinTin, I expect you’ll do better than I with this):

The problem with this country is, we let the Micks and them (sic) into Harvard

That Bennett article is a mess. He cites the new Fall TV slate as evidence that “manliness is on our minds” – and yet teh rest of the article is aboot how there’s no mens in teh popular culture now that people have stopped tying onions to their belts. Also too, if the new Fall TV shows are any indicator of cultural ideas – then it’s women that’s on our minds.

Maybe he’s got some sort of point in there with teh double-FAIL approach to being right, but it’s hard to figure out what it is.

Boys these days don’t have heroes? Uh d00d, just because you don’t know what’s popular with kids doesn’t mean that nothing’s popular with them. I dunno about now, but teh past ten years or so have been about Japanese anime style cartoons with real-life toy tie-ins. Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Beyblade and Bakugan. All of these cartoon-toy-industrial complexes are based around a male protagonist, who in martial arts epic style, travels around the world training to improve himself and helping others along the way. Sort of liek if The Littlest Hobo had to get revenge on someone for defiling a Xiaolin temple. It’s about competitiveness and winning and inner strength and very clear good-evil dichotomies with very simplistic morality. Basically, everything that Bill Bennett would love if it wasn’t so oriental.

Aaaaand, the drumming just started. Including a snare drum.

What Bill Bennet fails to appreciate is that prime time television is driven by the lowest common denominator. To expect TV to have anything more than cariacatures and stereotypes is ludicrous. They know what sells ad time.

Last week, while the Twitterverse was entranced by Herman Cain, Romney delivered his most important speech yet.

well, then it doesn’t really matter, does it, bobo? NOBODY is listening…lalalalalalalalalal!

Mini-mango expedition here:

Why Conservatism Will Die
Conservatism is already dying. Republicans on Capitol Hill are about to raise taxes on the American people with this Super Committee, but they’ll say they are just “raising revenue,” not taxes. Conservatives will give them a pass as they have on virtually every other major issue. Conservatives keep giving passes to people who shouldn’t be given passes because conservative in Washington have been there so long, they’d much rather get invited to the cocktail parties and avoid awkward encounters…

[blah, blah blah…the-GOP-candidates-we’ve-had-since-Reagan-weren’t-really-conservative-cakes]

And ends with this gem:

Conservatism itself will not really die. But it might as well be dead as even conservatives in the heartland of the country stop taking Washington conservatives seriously.

Why do you build me up; just so you can break me down?

The best part of Erickson’s rant:

The party that could lead a conservative, populist campaign against Wall Street and Barack Obama, the former getting fat off the latter…

What…what?

Obama got fat off Wall Street? WTF is he talking about? He spent major political capital on a bailout to keep them from going under and taking the world economy with them.

I think the oh-so-disciplined GOP/Teabagger/Fox News message team is starting to wobble and rattle just a little.

Also, too, there is surely some counter-programming going on. Us manly men have football on Saturday night, Sunday night, Monday night, and there should be basketball.

Obama got fat off Wall Street?

Believe it or not…strike that….it was inevitable: Obama is getting more money from Wall Street than any candidate except Romney.

Also, too, there is surely some counter-programming going on.

Wrasslin’. Also, huntin’.

To expect TV to have anything more than cariacatures and stereotypes is ludicrous.

Well, Bennett wants nothing more than cariacatures and stereotypes, just different ones.

re: Lou Gehrig

You know what? If you miss the days when baseball was referred to as America’s National Pastime in an unironic fashion – you should be cheering on #OWS. The reason kids these days aren’t allupons about baseball players is because MLB has basically become professional golf. Basically for teh geezers with a couple hundred bucks to spend on watered down beer while they watch five seconds of action interspersed with five minutes of crotch scratching.

Teh 99? They prefer to watch their professional crotch scratching action at your mom’s.

ATTENTION MORONS, Yes, the phenomenon of there being a fairly generous selection of male buffoons making us laugh (or not) on our TV screens is a fairly recent one, but here’s what that really means: MEN GET ALL THE GOOD LINES. Sure there are amazingly talented comediennes on these shows who make the most of what as essentially the straight man role…but the bottom line is that the “dumb man” phenomenon is yet more proof that men are dominating–unfairly–another segment of our culture. If anything The He-Man Woman Haters Club should be celebrating.

And fishin’! Competitive fishin’!

That’s some manly shit right there.

but the bottom line is that the “dumb man” phenomenon is yet more proof that men are dominating–unfairly–another segment of our culture.

I’d take issue with this, but this is a snark blog.

And fishin’! Competitive fishin’!

That’s some manly shit right there.

That there’s the truth! Brains v. brawn!

Sadly, the wet ones’re the smart ones.

“actor212 said,
November 8, 2011 at 19:31

but the bottom line is that the “dumb man” phenomenon is yet more proof that men are dominating–unfairly–another segment of our culture.

I’d take issue with this, but this is a snark blog.”

Do you even FIND women funny?

Do you even FIND women funny?

Abso-frikkin’-lutely. Both on the TeeVee and in the abstract.

My point is, watch nearly any commercial on TV that involves a couple and 99.99999999% of the time, the male is the asshole/dope/incompetent, while the women is the adept and knowledgable partner.

That same trope dominates prime time television (altho the percentage is slightly more favorable to men, perhaps 70% or 75%).

MEN GET ALL THE GOOD LINES.

Understand the the use of capitalization hyperbole for effect, but I submit Arrested Development as a rebuttal, Your Honor.

I for one think we need more wifey-shops-too-much-and-can’t-cook jokes. Maybe we could make whoever does The Lockhorns the first American Commissioner of Pop Humor.

“tigris’ arteries” comment above was actually me, if anyone cares.

GET BACK IN THERE!

My point is, watch nearly any commercial on TV that involves a couple and 99.99999999% of the time, the male is the asshole/dope/incompetent, while the women is the adept and knowledgable partner.

That same trope dominates prime time television (altho the percentage is slightly more favorable to men, perhaps 70% or 75%).

How did I say anything different? This is true. What I’m saying is that–ultimately–it benefits men.

Understand the the use of capitalization hyperbole for effect, but I submit Arrested Development as a rebuttal, Your Honor.

Obviously there are exceptions.

I for one think we need more wifey-shops-too-much-and-can’t-cook jokes. Maybe we could make whoever does The Lockhorns the first American Commissioner of Pop Humor.

Family Circle. Everything should be more like Family Circle.

Anyone got a spare billion dollars or so they could give me with no strings attached? This whole ‘not being a plutocrat’ is a real drag.

but the bottom line is that the “dumb man” phenomenon is yet more proof that men are dominating–unfairly–another segment of our culture.

This is due to evolutionary traits despite the fact that evolution isn’t real which means it’s GOD. Don’t begrudge men because of this, it can be as much a burden as a blessing. You don’t want to argue with GOD, do you?

What I’m saying is that–ultimately–it benefits men.

How could it, aside from the fact that creating the illusion that we are incompetent gets us out of…OH SHIT I’VE SAID TOO MUCH.

I mean, let’s face it, Lucy being an impish idiot on “I Love Lucy” wasn’t exactly bad for Lucille Ball, KWIM?

Nevermind the fact that there’s a sizable amount of the population that just thinks men are naturally funnier than women.

I once read a novel where a character was on the run after pestering the SAC to record an ultimate version of the 1812 overture with those providing the percussion.

ZOMG!

Family Circle. Everything should be more like Family Circle.

As opposed to Family Circus?

Although I’ll admit even that strip can be tolerable with the right improvements.

OH SHIT I’VE SAID TOO MUCH.
All hands we have a level 5 mansplaination failure in Sadly No! I need the best cleanup team we have stat! Get us…. the Patriarch!

My point is, watch nearly any commercial on TV that involves a couple and 99.99999999% of the time,,,

In defense of the advertising industry (OMG, who am I?) when they tried to do something different with Anthony Stewart Head and what’s her name with their Taster’s Choice coffee, it was pretty much regarded as EPIC FAIL.

Family Circus/Circle…whatevs. All I know is that Billy can GO TO HELL.

My point is, watch nearly any commercial on TV that involves a couple and 99.99999999% of the time, the male is the asshole/dope/incompetent, while the women is the adept and knowledgable partner.

I always assumed this was because women tend to make more of the day-to-day purchasing decisions in a typical household.

This is true. What I’m saying is that–ultimately–it benefits men.

I don’t see that this is automatically the case, but to sort of clarify things a bit, what sort of format would help tilt the balance?

Also too, hipster couples exempt from rule.

It’s easy to forget that after we vote fresh faces into office, they have to deal with the career politicians and lifers who fuck things up work behind the scenes to keep the status quo.

Thank you. I don’t remember the Clinton quote exactly but it’s something about “about a bunch of fucking bond traders?!”

I don’t take campaign promises from first timers too seriously because I know that the only way you can know what you can and cannot do as president is to become president, then the powers that be come out of the woodwork. Those powers don’t show their faces to too many people. The president is NOT the most powerful man in the country, by any stretch, that’s just a cover for the people who OWN us.

I don’t think it’s the format so much as an issue of balance. I actually think things are getting a but better. I see women getting to act the fool on sitcoms and occasionally in ads these days…s o that’s good.

More “Bridesmaids”-type comedies please!

Goddamn, who the fuck recommended Redstate? I have a bone to pick!

Ahem. That would be moi.

hipster couples exempt from rule.

They’re exempt from the incompetent tent-building rule?

I thought the movie rocked, and that the performances were spectacular. You know how it is with movies— pay your nickel and take your chances. Quit whining ya little pussy.

They’re exempt from the incompetent tent-building rule?

d00d, hipsters built a tent -> tent falls down. TRUTH IN ADVERTISING!

I don’t see that this is automatically the case, but to sort of clarify things a bit, what sort of format would help tilt the balance?

WP ated not one, but two of my comments. WP IS SEXIST!!!!

ANYHOO, I don’t think it’s format so much as balance. And I’m actually feeling a little hopeful on that score. On “Old Christine” and “Will and Grace,” the women really did get to play the fool, and many lulz were mined. IMO, at least.

And “Bridesmaids” pretty much restored my faith in comedies. I was getting to the point where I thought no woman would do something funny in movies ever again. And then this movie came along and it felt like the heavens were parting and angels were singing.

So…more of this is what I’m saying.

I think the tent fell down because it got all extra emo sad from listening to M.Ward.

FUCKING WORDPRESS!!!

Well, I tried about 12 times to reply to Ted, but apparently WP thinks I’m unfunny and have cooties so… I give up.

I don’t take campaign promises from first timers too seriously because I know that the only way you can know what you can and cannot do as president is to become president, then the powers that be come out of the woodwork. Those powers don’t show their faces to too many people. The president is NOT the most powerful man in the country, by any stretch, that’s just a cover for the people who OWN us.

That’s where Romney would actually have an advantage, because he’s already broken in. He knows quite well who owns whom.

But I wonder how he would deliver on all his facile campaign promises to reduce unemployment. He hasn’t been quite as bad in that regard as, say, Michele “Elect Me and Gas Will Be $2 a Gallon” Bachmann, but he’s close.

vs,

One of your comments came out of teh filter. You forgot that WP eats any mention of eff-double-o-el. Because fuck you Imagine haters.

Heh heh. I win.

My comments probably reveal two things – my present slacking involves a fair bit of focus cognitive biases, confirmation bias being one of the big ones. So part of me is testing out if perhaps you are a susceptible to this…

Then it probably also shows the kind of teevee we watch at chez slacker, where I don’t see the male dominance thing nearly as much as I think I used to. 30 Rock and Glee, for example… can’t say teh sisterhood is shortchanged in the funnystakes with Tina Fey and Jane Lynch at the top of their games.

Ps. Need no persuading the male bias of our culture, but my sense is teevee is not as bad as most other areas. Wingnut tight-asses wanting a return to “traditional values” have a lot more to be worried about.

Oh yes, 30 Rock is a HUGE exception. Pretty much the whole NBC Thurs. night is. Perhaps remindif myself of that will sooth my savage feminist heart.

http://www.pbs.org/america-in-primetime

Interesting take on the male-as-buffoon through the years.

Jesus, WP, talk about a late flag.

So…more of this is what I’m saying.

Yep. If it’s as good as Bridesmaids, absolutely.

So…more of this is what I’m saying.

A little bit of this has always been around. Betty White’s entire career for example.

Interesting take on the male-as-buffoon through the years.

I’ve been meaning to watch that. I suspect it will merely confirm my observation

BREAKING NEWS: Berlusconi fails to garner a majority today, will likely resign later this week to take over as Herman Cain campaign manager.

I thought Papandraeou (?sp?) had dibs on being campaign manager…

Late to the Bennett Roasting Party and I’ve seen the great mango retrieval done by Whale Chowder, which was fantastic!

And I noticed this particular mango:

This year there will be more women CEOs of Fortune 500 companies than ever before.

Oops, way to give it away there Bill. His entire complaint purports to be about the diminishment of men (note no evidence for this assertion) and how feminists have gone too far from merely equal to `simply punitive towards men.

It’s an old misogynist stance, but it’s hard to walk that what with mean old reality standing in the way.

Worse still when you are aware of reality and your real objection to feminism.

And so we get this. It’s not saying something completely insane like “we will have 57% female business owners” or so on.

Nope, it carefully words it. We’ll have more female CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. This is like saying “we’ll have more female NASCAR drivers” and it’s a bit of a giveaway.

He’s not complaining about equality gone wrong, he’s complaining about women having the barest sliver of what men are allowed to do. It’s like wingnuts who see a black person in a crowd and see only diversity run amuck.

The idea that there is even one female CEO in the Fortune 500, even though the numbers are way under equality is what bothers him. The idea that a successful (by CEO standards, which of course often means moralless failure) woman in that field could be employed as top dog in something. That in a few cases, there’s a woman in charge of a business with no men ordering her around… besides the board of directors and the investors, that’s what’s got his world going topsy turvy.

Because there are meant to be hierarchies and people knowing their place. And that’s what feminism ruined. The idea that women should stay put.

And after decades of fondling showgirls, he’s finally stumbled back into the harsh realities of the real world and realizes he can’t fondle the help like he used to and that his direct boss may even be a woman who isn’t hip to the “doll face just needs to lighten up” argument especially not when he’s trying to order said boss to get him a coffee.

And he will not stand for this!

And so will whine on the internet about his loss of privilege as if he has suffered genuine oppression.

I thought the movie rocked, and that the performances were spectacular. You know how it is with movies— pay your nickel and take your chances. Quit whining ya little pussy.

Your words are very hurtful. Now I need a nap!
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KILL!

So given the “brilliant” level investigation of wingnuts to argue that Tintin is Actor, real photographs show “suspicious kerning” and obviously fake Kenyan birth certificates “could only be true”, the likelihood that new trolls delusion matches reality is…

Hmm, is 200,000,000,000 to 1 odds too much?

KILL!

Really. God knows I spend my entire life waiting to judge people as inferior to me.

I just want to thank you hot tubbers for your most excellent behavior this morning.

And so we get this. It’s not saying something completely insane like “we will have 57% female business owners” or so on.

I think there’s tremendous butthurt that women, when given even a semblance of an equal playing field, tend to, know succeed. Why that causes such upset is beyond me. No, wait. I think learning that one sex is not inherently superior to the other is genuinely upsetting. I think it’s a weird thing to get upset about, but then I’m not swimming in the fetid waters of the wingnut mind.

the likelihood that new trolls delusion matches reality is…

Irrelevant

I just want to thank you hot tubbers for your most excellent behavior this morning.

So you didn’t notice me farting?

I would just like to know what a “far-left feminist” is. Do I qualify as one? What is this mysterious, elusive FAR-LEFT FEMINIST that is even too feministy for her feminazi cousins?

I would just like to know what a “far-left feminist” is.

You don’t just not shave your pubes, you use Rogaine down there

It’s interesting that the supposed counter argument to the “entertainment leans sexist” angle is always the “but what about men buffoons in ads and television sitcom” gamble (note not bashing actor with what comes next, only noting I’ve seen this legitimately argued again and again by MRA types against feminism).

Which of course misses the point that anti-feminism and the Patriarchy as exists isn’t all that kind to men either. Sure, you are “above” women inherently and worth all the good jobs, but you are also by the interpretations of the arguments, a hormonal monster, ruled by one’s gonads, incapable of even the rational thought to avoid raping any woman in a short skirt. A man is incapable of doing housework or fully caring for themselves, something to be shuttled between mother and wife as they garner no credit for it.

As already noted, the buffoon character in sitcoms are men because they get the best lines and aren’t expected to look hot, whereas the wife as simple straight-man gets to constantly be the “bitch” “ruining” “men’s good times” with her yapping as she fulfills the hot wife side of the equation. A woman needs to work hard, put up with a lot and often sacrifice a number of dreams in order to live with a schlub who is almost physically incapable of appreciating her and often only brings home “hilarious” trouble.

In ads, men are presented as not being able to take care of themselves, women there to make it all magical and functional with only the help of the latest product.

But said product is tied to their domesticity. Ha ha, your man-child keeps spilling food on his suits, well, this will help you clean it up perfect to make him look presentable as he gets out of the house and works and you stay inside this McMansion prison to rot out the rest of your days despite your greater intelligence.

Women are only allowed that intelligence inside that box, the home. To roll her eyes at husband and children, but only when her life solely revolves around them or the diet food she eats so she can look her best for the man-child schlub who apparently can’t dress himself.

Basically, as much as MRA types cite these things as something “women are getting away with” or something feminism created, they really aren’t. In fact, the main problem is that they sell a Patriarchal fantasy of hierarchies maintained, archaic Victorian “spheres of competence” enforced, and gender roles merely exaggerated.

This is the thing feminism argues against, the force that imprisons and mocks men as subhuman in order to argue for women as worthless slaves. The thing it wants to see fixed so relationships of equality can be seen both in life and in fiction.

It’s not women mocking men in those ads, the designers come from one of the most sexist industries around.

Sexist men are calling men incapable buffoons, sexist men are calling men barely controlled centers of lust, sexist men don’t think men can dress themselves without a houseslave.

Sexist men hate men and want you to hate women for it. Just like the characters they create in those ads, bitching about how the woman wants to drag them to a book club and give them some culture when all they want to do is trash the house and drink beer like a neanderthal.

As already noted, the buffoon character in sitcoms are men because they get the best lines

My response to this: you’re laughing at them, not with them. That’s not “the best lines” in my book by any stretch of the imagination. That’s snark, pure and simple.

drink beer like a neanderthal.

Hey! It’s fancy beer!

Did somebody hear an echo? Nah, me neither.

I think there’s tremendous butthurt that women, when given even a semblance of an equal playing field, tend to, know succeed. Why that causes such upset is beyond me. No, wait. I think learning that one sex is not inherently superior to the other is genuinely upsetting. I think it’s a weird thing to get upset about, but then I’m not swimming in the fetid waters of the wingnut mind.

Oh, that is completely understandable.

If one’s entire basis for their ego is that “hey, I’m not better than a lot of men and in fact I mostly stumble through life like a drunken pig, but at least I’m genetically superior to the dumbass wimminfolk and those subhuman mud-jockeys”, then the idea that said creatures aren’t actually inferior and instead have just been unfairly dismissed for centuries is a direct threat to everything you hold dear.

If the feminists are right and women aren’t inherently worse at “the only real subjects that matter” and those subjects become fewer and fewer and thus harder and harder for men to be good at it themselves, then that’s another half of the population you lose ground against.

The more minority groups are shown to perform just as well when allowed to, to be just as capable, the harder it is to pretend that you are genetically superior just because you were born white and male, that there was a clear line you could not fall behind no matter how incapable or useless you were.

The loss of that line and the thought of collapsing all the way down to what they truly would deserve in a true meritocracy, terrifies many and it’s a reality they will fight with all their strength, calling on the old Gods of Hierarchy to fix if they can.

This is also why “meritocracy” is a big word with these types. Because projection is the watchword and thus if you are terrified of a genuine meritocracy, all that’s left is to pretend that the old system of safeguards against minorities was the “meritocracy” and the attempts to equalize things are “attacks against the natural order” and “equal rights run amuck”.

Retread troll is retreaded.

Heh. I was just informed that the Lindsey Lohan playboy spread* is “very tasteful”. I’m feeling a bit skeptical for some reason.

*Heh.

As already noted, the buffoon character in sitcoms are men because they get the best lines and aren’t expected to look hot, whereas the wife as simple straight-man gets to constantly be the “bitch” “ruining” “men’s good times” with her yapping as she fulfills the hot wife side of the equation.

THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. I literally could not “THIS” this enough.

Heh. I was just informed that the Lindsey Lohan playboy spread* is “very tasteful”. I’m feeling a bit skeptical for some reason.

Oh, I’m sure she’s wearing very tasteful earings.

Heh. I was just informed that the Lindsey Lohan playboy spread* is “very tasteful”. I’m feeling a bit skeptical for some reason.

*Heh.

Can car wrecks be tasteful?

Repigs consider a woman successful if said women are complicit in their own oppression. Respect the glass ceiling, attack women who magically appear on the other side of that ceiling, and you have a “good” woman. Example: Sarah Palin.

Can car wrecks be tasteful?

I suppose if they don’t spread the trunk wide open they could be considered tasteful?

My response to this: you’re laughing at them, not with them. That’s not “the best lines” in my book by any stretch of the imagination. That’s snark, pure and simple.

Homer vs. Marge

Can car wrecks be tasteful?

Yes?

“very tasteful”

Does that mean that there are no shots using a speculum?

actor212:

My response to this: you’re laughing at them, not with them. That’s not “the best lines” in my book by any stretch of the imagination. That’s snark, pure and simple.

Except they are.

You see, when they recruit a comedian for a sitcom, they hand that comedian a lot of power to dictate how that structure goes and what character they choose to play. If they wanted to play the brilliant straight-man surrounded by buffoons, they could.

But the choice almost always goes to formula, the choice is klutz or buffoon, maybe not the biggest buffoon, but definitely a buffoon. The choice is to be the target laughed at and not laughed with.

And well, it’s easy to see why. The buffoon tends to be the most remembered character because they have the whackiest adventures, people remember that they laugh at one character and so cite that character when they are talking about it later. You need to watch Program X, Buffoon Y did something amazing. And as such people want to see more of Buffoon Y in other works even if that is a bad idea or the straight characters were the star of the show.

They also do get the “good lines” because well, the “good lines” are the punchlines. Being the butt of the joke means you are the joke and thus aren’t just the setup or the conflict as the straight-man always is. And as such, you get to carry the comedic weight and kudos while other characters simply get to be the workhorses of the joke, making the buffoon’s punchline look even better.

Also, please join me in hoping that JoePa and every other piece of shit who pretended that child rape wasn’t happening in the next room of their lovely facility is somehow held to account. I’d post what I’d really like to see happen to them, but that would be eliminationist, which does not belong on a snark blog. Or so I’m told.

A tasteful car wreck

Can car wrecks be tasteful?

Yes?

I was forced to do this to innocent insects at one time in my life.

I don’t think they’ll do this to Lilo.

They also do get the “good lines” because well, the “good lines” are the punchlines.

That’s like saying the deer that gets shot is the star.

I don’t buy it, and it sure as hell ain’t advancing the cause of equality and understanding. You belittle men, AND women.

Also, please join me in hoping that JoePa and every other piece of shit who pretended that child rape wasn’t happening in the next room of their lovely facility is somehow held to account.

Paterno’s so old, I’m afraid any accountability will be fleeting at best, unless you believe in a hereafter.

Now, McQueary and the rest have long lives to lead thinking about the image of a ten year old boy being ass raped.

That’s like saying the deer that gets shot is the star.

You’re missing the point that the “straight man” role isn’t plain “straight man.” Sure the women don’t have to be the buffoons and oafish idiots, instead they get to be the killjoy nagging crones.

Homer vs. Marge. Who gets the “good lines”?

JoePa canceled his weekly news conference. There’s a movement afoot in State College to boycott this week’s game though many are against doing that, saying it would disrespect the players. I sent an e-mail to his son Dave who I know pretty well, havent heard back. The chief of the state police and the AG both slammed Paterno and Spanier (university Pres.) for not doing more, and that long ago. They said the two may have fulfilled their legal obligations but completely failed in doing the right thing. It’s all thoroughly disgusting.

Homer vs. Marge. Who gets the “good lines”?

Both. Or don’t you laugh at Marge’s observations? Cuz, you know, that says a lot more about you than it does about the Simpsons

Marge, however, comes off as someone you know. Homer comes off as, well, a cartoon figure.

JoePa Penn State canceled his weekly news conference.

FTFY, for accuracy.

The Times is reporting the trustees are negotiating his surrender.

JoePa Penn State canceled his weekly news conference.

Fixed my fix

Paterno’s so old, I’m afraid any accountability will be fleeting at best, unless you believe in a hereafter.

Now, McQueary and the rest have long lives to lead thinking about the image of a ten year old boy being ass raped.

It’s still something. Every one of these fuckers let young boys go on for YEARS under the threat of retaliation if they told anyone, likely causing an exponential amount of damage. They cared more about their precious fucking image and football program than these kids.

What baffles me is this: I can only believe that they all stayed silent to protect the program and Paterno’s reputation. How much different would they look if they called the police and dealt with this the minute it happened compared to ignoring and covering it up for a decade?

I don’t care how old Paterno is. He’s not too old to face justice for aiding and abetting a fucking predator.

I don’t buy it, and it sure as hell ain’t advancing the cause of equality and understanding. You belittle men, AND women.

Well, your delusions aside, I’m not talking should. I’m talking is.

And it’s the reason that most feminist worth their salt doesn’t cheer the “sitcom dynamic” as “telling it like it is” and instead bitches about the hideous assumptions, stereotypes, and so on. As well as the way it is an insult to men and women in often patriarchal manners and notes it as a strong example of the Patriarchy and the Status Quo hating men.

It’s also apparently what MRAs cite as proof that women hate men and feminists hate men, because apparently feminists are behind the modern sitcom, rather than the same stale minds of old men working to formula.

This is what a sitcom is and why the big-bill actors tend to fight over the buffoon roles.

Should it be the way our culture relates life? Is it at all a good thing for men or women?

Fuck no, hence why we are arguing they are archaic pieces of crap rather than cheering them on as media that keeps good men down.

What baffles me is this: I can only believe that they all stayed silent to protect the program and Paterno’s reputation.

What baffles me is how Paterno’s reputation plays into this IF they do the right thing in the first place.

Sandusky was his assistant, but that doesn’t mean Paterno was in charge of his life off field. If the moment he finds out about the pedophilia, he fires the guy, Paterno’s reputation suffers nothing.

They tried to finesse this for whatever reason and it blew up in their faces, to be sure. And I get that they wanted it done on the QT to keep the school out of harm’s way, but as always, the cover up is what catches them out.

They said the two may have fulfilled their legal obligations but completely failed in doing the right thing

I am not a lawyer, but I don’t believe that failing to report a class A felony is not a crime itself. It’s complicity. How many kids have fallen victim to this guy since this became known?

Reporting to administrators is not the same as reporting to the police. Seeing the crime occuring and not intervening is cowardly and disgusting.

Also, I’m sure someone in the media will go here, and I’m just waiting to pounce. A ruined reputation is NOT justice.

Both. Or don’t you laugh at Marge’s observations? Cuz, you know, that says a lot more about you than it does about the Simpsons

I don’t think you are supposed to laugh at Marge’s observations.

She’s a tragedy, Groening’s critique of the sitcom family dynamic as living demonstration of The Feminine Mystique. So trained by how a good housewife acts that she is only rarely aware that her life is the thing of nightmares for others and that she accepts far less than her lot in life, because that is simply the role that was carved out for her in her day.

In short, she’s a more sympathetic Betty from Mad Men.

Both. Or don’t you laugh at Marge’s observations? Cuz, you know, that says a lot more about you than it does about the Simpsons

Sure Marge gets a good joke in every now and then, but hands down Homer gets the good lines. Homer is basically the entire show.

Seriously. You are arguing that Marge gets better lines than Homer. You could have said that the Simpsons was the exception that proves your rule or something, but that’s what you’re going with. Okay d00d.

And I get that they wanted it done on the QT to keep the school out of harm’s way, but as always, the cover up is what catches them out.

I’m thinking that if they had called the police the minute this became known, Sandusky goes to prison, and the school and Paterno are the good guys because they did the right thing. I still can’t see how somebody ever thought trying to hide this, while giving the creep continued access to the facility, providing a means to trap his victims, was ever going to be anything other than what it is now.

It’s also apparently what MRAs cite as proof that women hate men and feminists hate men, because apparently feminists are behind the modern sitcom, rather than the same stale minds of old men working to formula.

Nonsense.

Sitcoms are designed with the lowest common denominator in mind to maximize audience and therefore profit. Millions of dollars ride on each and every launch, and it would not be in anyone’s best interests to try to work in some form of agenda into the storyline, unless it actually advances the story line and then only superficially.

Sitcoms deal in stereotypes and bromides so broad and shallow that anyone can instantaneously grasp the commedia del-arte characterizations.

This is what a sitcom is and why the big-bill actors tend to fight over the buffoon roles.

Really?

Name three ” big name actors” who have accepted buffoon roles leading successful sitcoms.

Note, that’s not “actors who became big names because of their role.

Skip Alec Baldwin in “30 Rock.” He’s laughing his way to the bank as producer of the show. He gets what I’m talking about.

Sure Marge gets a good joke in every now and then, but hands down Homer gets the good lines. Homer is basically the entire show.

Yes, he is the focus of the show.

And your point is, what, precisely? That the Simpsons has successfully followed my formula of dumbing down men and women for twenty years?

That sort of, um, proves my point, doesn’t it?

McQueary and the rest have long lives to lead thinking about the image of a ten year old boy being ass raped.

I wonder if that little boy, while he was being raped, caught sight of McQueary backing away.

It probably doesn’t matter. By that point, what was one more extra little betrayal?

Also, I’m sure someone in the media will go here, and I’m just waiting to pounce. A ruined reputation is NOT justice.

It is always bizarre how reputation always ends up being the focus of these sorts of things. As if that was worth so much more than you know the after-effects of being raped on the victims or the actual crimes committed.

Especially when “reputations for those worried about” always seem to be so quick to clean. Michael Vick did dog-fighting and was cited as the worst person ever, his reputation reduced to nothing and a couple years later, he’s star player again, because that matters so much less than what built his reputation, the ability to play Padless Rugby well.

Also weird is how little the obsession with “reputation” matters when everyone gets obsessed with pouring over every nanosecond of the victim’s life to try and find the dirty, wrong, or improper thing they ever did that totally made it their fault.

It’s just a bizarre thing that we seem to latch onto in these cases.

I wonder if that little boy, while he was being raped, caught sight of McQueary backing away.

It probably doesn’t matter. By that point, what was one more extra little betrayal?

This came up in the office this morning. We all agreed that it destroyed what may have been left of this poor kid’s concept of humanity and the difference between right and wrong. He was left alone with a 10 year old brain to try to deal with a fucking rape and a threat to keep him silent. McQueary should be in prison with Sandusky, being treated the same way other child rapists get treated there.

Sitcoms are designed with the lowest common denominator in mind to maximize audience and therefore profit. Millions of dollars ride on each and every launch, and it would not be in anyone’s best interests to try to work in some form of agenda into the storyline, unless it actually advances the story line and then only superficially.

Except you know, the “agenda” of the status quo. The calm and non-threatening patterns of yester-year, the safe hierarchies of what we’ve always seen, and the non-threatening charicatures of stereotypes that are what the Patriarchy always has been.

It doesn’t need to be startling and new. That’s the point. That’s the point that you are supposedly arguing against.

It’s not deliberately new, it’s not trying to be more regressive than what comes before. The pattern is a Patriarchal fuck you to men and women alike, repeated ad nauseum because it is familiar and safe and doesn’t challenge what we culturally believe about the roles of men and women.

So trained by how a good housewife acts that she is only rarely aware that her life is the thing of nightmares for others and that she accepts far less than her lot in life, because that is simply the role that was carved out for her in her day.

Wow. I’m thinking I missed all those episodes where she was a cop or a body builder or starting her own business now…I guess I imagined those in my *koffkoff* delusions….

Especially when “reputations for those worried about” always seem to be so quick to clean. Michael Vick did dog-fighting and was cited as the worst person ever, his reputation reduced to nothing and a couple years later, he’s star player again, because that matters so much less than what built his reputation, the ability to play Padless Rugby well.

I was disappointed to learn that he beat Ben Roethlisberger on this ranking. May or may not have something to do with race, but it’s a travesty nonetheless.

Except you know, the “agenda” of the status quo. The calm and non-threatening patterns of yester-year, the safe hierarchies of what we’ve always seen, and the non-threatening charicatures of stereotypes that are what the Patriarchy always has been.

Bennet wants to go back to the days when Lucy was the clown and Ricky looked on in disdain.

You advocate that the current status is somehow more palatable.

I call bullshit on both.

McMegan sure knows how to miss a point:

I don’t care about income inequality. I care about the absolute condition of the poor–whether they are hungry, cold, and sick. But I do not care about the gap between their incomes, and those of Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. Nor the ratio of Gates and Buffett’s incomes to mine. And I’m not sure why anyone should. Other than pure envy, it’s hard to see how I could somehow be made worse off if Bill Gates’ income suddenly doubled, but everything else remained the same.

Name three ” big name actors” who have accepted buffoon roles leading successful sitcoms.

Alec Baldwin, Charlie Sheen, the guy replacing Charlie Sheen.
Shatner.

Alec Baldwin, Charlie Sheen, the guy replacing Charlie Sheen.
Shatner.

Alec Baldwin produces his own show and as I pointed out, he gets my point.

Sheen and Kutcher were floundering before the show. Next?

Shatner? I said successful sitcom, didnt I?

Name three ” big name actors” who have accepted buffoon roles leading successful sitcoms.

Tim Allen, Robin Williams, Ellen DeGeneres, Kevin James, Charlie Sheen…

I’ll also note, that the sitcom is basically seen as the doorway between successful stand-up comedian and legitimate actor. Many of the big-names recruited are recruited from the successful stand-up circuit to translate their jokes to TV. And surprise surprise, when given that control they stick themselves in the buffoon role, maybe not the biggest buffoon, the one that’s just meant to be hated, but a buffoon or a klutz nonethelss because that allows them to be the carrier of the punchline.

Again, not a good thing. Again, a very old thing.

In fact, I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to argue at this point.

Yeah, it’s a Patriarchal fuck you to both men and women, showing its contempt for both sexes.

What part of that are you exactly arguing against?

That people laugh at buffoons, that people remember the George Constanzas, Tim Taylors, Homer Simpsons, better than the hard-working straight men, that the ones who get their face plastered on the billboards tend to not be the straight men characters, even if those “funny” characters can’t operate without them (See the disastrous attempt to spin off Joey from Friends).

Um, okay, then your issue is with reality.

But if it’s about whether this is a good, non-lazy, non-insulting state of affairs?

Well, I agree. It is horrible, it is lazy, and it’s a Sexist Industry insult aimed at both men and women. It’d be great if the formula died for a reason other than replacing it with the far worse virus of “reality TV”.

Kevin James. Ray Romano. Right off the top of my head.

Name three ” big name actors” who have accepted buffoon roles leading successful sitcoms.

Tim Allen, Robin Williams, Ellen DeGeneres, Kevin James, Charlie Sheen…

Apart from Robin Williams, none of these are big name actors.

Now, Williams…what successful sitcom is he presently in?

Kevin James. Ray Romano. Right off the top of my head.

Oh right, because of course producers are banging down their doors to star in their movies…*snark*

Try again, please. Real actors, this time.

Jeez, things are slipping around here. Two intelligent people having an honest, levelheaded debate about something that doesn’t involve shrieking about how much one party hates America or is Hitler?

Troll union break?

John Lithgow.

Chevy Chase

I need Substance’s moving goalposts gif.

John Lithgow.

Ten years ago?

Yeah, Star Trek was not a sitcom. Not intentionally anyway.

wev d00d. It’s liek we’re in different conversations. You’re claiming Marge has better lines than Homer. They frigging completely revamped the entire show around Homer in Season 4. The Simpsons started all “Don’t have a cow” and “Eat my shorts” and whatnot, but it’s the Homer-centric-ity of it that made it the cultural phenomenon it is.

Seriously, first three or four quotes you think of from the Simpsons – who says them? Odds are it’s Homer, but it is almost invariably a male character. No one thinks of Marge.

But that’s okay – you apply whatever standards and defintions you want to stuff. We’re talking about different things anyways. I mean otherwise, I’d have to believe that you actually think Marge gets the good lines.

I need Substance’s moving goalposts gif.

James and Romano were not actors before their sitcoms, they were stand up comedians.

Do you read English as a first language?

You’re claiming Marge has better lines than Homer

Show me where I said that, please?

And then you can apologize for misquoting me.

BTW, Shatner.

Wow. I’m thinking I missed all those episodes where she was a cop or a body builder or starting her own business now…I guess I imagined those in my *koffkoff* delusions….

Hey, and what does she do at the end of those shows? She has a successful enterprise, but her buffoon of a husband can’t run the house. She is forced to abandon the fulfilling career because of it (aside from the occasional episode when it’s a random other bullshit reset) and return to her cage, having “learned the lesson” of what was really important.

Bennet wants to go back to the days when Lucy was the clown and Ricky looked on in disdain.

I call bullshit on both.

Oh, hey, you’ve learned how to argue like a wingnut! Congratulations.

Hey, where’s the evil mean old feminist arguing that the current sitcom state is a good thing? Where is that old goat?

What? Nowhere? But that’s impossible. If that was true then actor would be arguing against phantoms and deliberately ignoring that what they were quoting wasn’t a sympathetic love-letter to the status quo and that what he was arguing against was a condemning of the current sitcom relationship as a Sexist insult against men and women alike.

Now, I know you can read, so maybe you want to brush up on that skillset and realize what you are arguing against before you complete the full wingnut circuit and start ranting like Tony Bennett.

Chevy Chase

Who has done what in the years since the “Vacation” movies?

And then you can apologize for misquoting me.

Right. Equally good, not better. Still, it is a ludicrous notion.

Plus, I don’t think anyone’s arguing that women don’t get to say funny things EVAR. Of course, Marge has had some great lines. And Patricia Heaton and Leah Remini are amazingly funny on their two Schlumpy Guy/Hot Wife shows…but, please let us not pretend that the MEN aren’t the stars of these shows.

tsam, FWIW, the Bears d-line pounded the snot out of Vick last night.

Somewhere a dog is smiling.

actor212 said,

November 8, 2011 at 22:47

Chevy Chase

Who has done what in the years since the “Vacation” movies?

Man, those goalposts move quick! He’s a “big name” and he’s currently doing quite well as a total buffon in “Community”.

Hey, where’s the evil mean old feminist arguing that the current sitcom state is a good thing?

Well, then, for fuck’s sake, why were you arguing with me? When I pointed out that the current state of affairs was not good for either men or women, you went off like a nickle bottle rocket.

Or, you know, a buffoon.

Man, those goalposts move quick! He’s a “big name” and he’s currently doing quite well as a total buffon in “Community”.

Big name? Really?

Name one movie he’s been the lead in in the past five years?

Actors have short shelf lives.

And then you can apologize for misquoting me.

Right. Equally good, not better. Still, it is a ludicrous notion.

I forget: your idea of humour ends at “ahhhhhhhh, your mother” jokes

Name one movie he’s been the lead in in the past five years?

Man, I really fucking hate it when the user’s requirements change right about the time the project is nearing completion. Happens all the fucking time too.

Fine, we’ll talk about transition from big-name comedian into tv show sitcom, because that’s where the recruitment goes. No straight man is recruited from successful actor who isn’t in a slump ranks either, because going back to sitcom is the surest sign of a career reboot anyways.

But again, congratulations on arguing like a wingnut.

Hey, let’s make it easier.

What are some successful sitcoms where the straight man is the well-remembered and beloved character above all else and thus the de facto face of the show.

All that’s coming to mind is Seinfield and maybe Al or Wilson from Home Improvement. Compared to the buckets upon buckets of examples of the buffoon being the face of the show or the show-stealing crowd-pleaser.

And if you limit that list to female straight-men who steal the show, I honestly can’t think of a single example, even though that role is frightfully common.

I don’t know what actor’s argument is anymore other than he can deliberately ignore reality and the substance of the arguments made against him in order to prolong an argument, but I guess, shine on you crazy diamond.

Name one movie he’s been the lead in in the past five years?

Man, I really fucking hate it when the user’s requirements change right about the time the project is nearing completion

Here, Imma answer for you: none. He’s been a bit player in a couple of movies and done voiceovers in one or two animated features.

Yea, he’s really that big name driving that box office figure!

When I pointed out that the current state of affairs was not good for either men or women, you went off like a nickle bottle rocket.

Not really. I said, hey, this isn’t a response to actor, just noting that I’ve seen this legitimately argued with feminists as the villain of the piece. And thus noting that yeah, it is a diseased affair, the way the status quo patriarchy smacks around men and women and how little it thinks of both and how the supposed compliments towards women are actually insults because of the limitations.

Then you decided to go Full Force Wingnut.

Including trying to argue that the buffoon wasn’t at all a role desired to be played even though what it reasserts about men in society is full of Patriarchy-approved fuck yous.

So yeah, not sure why this argument either.

What are some successful sitcoms where the straight man is the well-remembered and beloved character above all else and thus the de facto face of the show.

You mentioned one hours ago: Will & Grace.

Any number of Michael J Fox shows. Scrubs.

Did you need more? I’m sure I could come up with a bunch for you.

Then you decided to go Full Force Wingnut.

Wow. Talk about sensitive.

Yea, he’s really that big name driving that box office figure!

You do realize this frantic shuffling of goalposts is bordering on trollish, right?

Including trying to argue that the buffoon wasn’t at all a role desired to be played even though what it reasserts about men in society is full of Patriarchy-approved fuck yous.

English. Learn it.

And show me precisely where I made that claim

Plus, I don’t think anyone’s arguing that women don’t get to say funny things EVAR. Of course, Marge has had some great lines. And Patricia Heaton and Leah Remini are amazingly funny on their two Schlumpy Guy/Hot Wife shows…but, please let us not pretend that the MEN aren’t the stars of these shows.

But damnitt, vs, it’s important to argue that delusion anyways, because feminists are trying to cheer the current sitcom as part of their plot to diminish men everywhere as is their wont.

It’s so self-evidently true that you don’t even need to double-check that that is what’s being argued before you go off like a bottle-rocket.

You do realize this frantic shuffling of goalposts is bordering on trollish, right?

The goalposts have remained firmly planted. Don’t blame me you can’t kick for shit.

I don’t like any of you… SO THERE!
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I don’t like any of you… SO THERE!

Well, at least you’re honest in your condescension. 😉

actor 212-

Don’t know what argument you were having, but I didn’t mention Will and Grace, and let’s be frankly honest. No one really remembers Will and Grace other than their names. Everyone remembers Living Gay Stereotype.

Spin City, I’ll grant you.

And I’ll grant you Scrubs, even though Dr. Cox wasn’t so much straight-man as not a buffoon.

Wow. Talk about sensitive.

Yes, because me noting what everyone else is saying re: shifting of goalposts and inability to follow a point, is just me being an over-sensitive woman.

ncluding trying to argue that the buffoon wasn’t at all a role desired to be played

The last 30 minutes of frantic goalpost moving.

Fuck.

I’ll give you this. I’m actually curious right now as to what you are actually arguing, because for violent agreement, you sure are definitely going down the troll bingo list.

But remember everyone, we’re all actor’s minions and totally rush to his aid and never ever argue with him.

Do you read English as a first language?

Hey, actor, go fuck yourself. I’ve been wanting to say this for a long time and now I have the excuse: You truly are–far and away–the most obnoxious person here at S,N. I’ve been toying with the idea of killfileing you, but now it’s a done deal. Don’t give a shit whether you give a shit. You really are a full-of-yourself windbag. And your shtick is OLD. SO FUCKING OLD. There is Vaudeville that is more current than your dumb fucking jokes. So, once again, go fuck yourself.

Oh, and btw, you DID MOVE THE GOALPOSTS. You asked for the names of 3 big name actors. Ray Romano? Kevin James? PRETTY BIG NAMES. You didn’t say WHEN they had to become big-name actors. Being on their respective shows MADE them big-name actors. If you weren’t clinically retarded you’d know that.

SO I REITERATE, STICK YOUR MOVING GOALPOSTS UP YOUR FUCKING ASS.

So leaving aside this tangent and back to Erick von Erickrapist and his little whine.

Someone has noticed, now that’s he’s been let out of the Wingnut Little League and gets to dine at the foot of the table of the real decision makers, that what the base thinks matters balls all in a Republican primary.

That being the authoritarian cheerleaders they are, they will flock around whatever Daddy is picked for them by the rules of who’s turn is it.

And is having his little pout about having to circle his wagons around the filthy mormon early to try and get it all out of his system before he has to start writing “Romney is the Living Embodiment of Reagan” posts in 2012.

And we say that wingnut writers never suffer.

I forget: your idea of humour ends at “ahhhhhhhh, your mother” jokes

In my defense, why wouldn’t someone’s idea of humour end there? Geez, that’s teh pinnacle – teh ne plus ultra de funneh. I’d adjust my definition of comedy if something funnier came along, but I don’t imagine it happening anytime soon.

Don’t know what argument you were having, but I didn’t mention Will and Grace, and let’s be frankly honest. No one really remembers Will and Grace other than their names. Everyone remembers Living Gay Stereotype.

Really. You don’t remember the lead character, Will, a successful lawyer who happens to be gay who’s best friend, Grace is a designer and in the mold of Lucy?

OK, so you didn’t see the show, that’s fine, but at least you acknowledge Spin City and Scrubs as not condescending to their audiences.

Oh, and btw, you DID MOVE THE GOALPOSTS. You asked for the names of 3 big name actors. Ray Romano? Kevin James? PRETTY BIG NAMES.

They BECAME BIG NAMES because they were cast in the sitcoms that made them BIG NAMES. They were not BIG NAMES before those sitcoms, which is WHAT I ASKED FOR!

Good grief, vs, if you’re going to argue a point, at least try not to make it a circular reference.

tsam, FWIW, the Bears d-line pounded the snot out of Vick last night.

Somewhere a dog is smiling.

I don’t hate Vick anymore. He served his time, he is (at least outwardly) trying to be a better person, meaning he left that life behind. I can’t say for certain that he has left it behind, but he did admit what he did and paid the price like a grown man. I’ll always remember what Vick did, and think less of him because of the fact that he would ever think it’s ok to treat a living thing that way.

Roethlisberger, on the other hand, will always always have my undying hatred. He is a predator, and of course wasn’t even man enough to admit what he fucking did while paying off the women he raped. I will never change my mind or moderate my position on that one.

Geez, we need a new thread quick.

Also, love that Erick von Erick son of Erick Inbreeding Experiment 612, is supposedly writing this because “there just isn’t a conservative enough candidate” when every candidate has been torching their general chances just to out-wingnut the others. You’ve got “Secession is a Great Idea” Perry and “I don’t think I should be let out of the house without my husband’s permission” Bachmann and you want to pretend that it’s the “lack of conservatism” that’s fucking you?

How very cute.

They know they’ve shat in the pool water and voting fraud and flooding the market with money and made-up controversies is their only chance, but damn if they’re going to take any blame for it.

actor,

Will & Grace may have been the title characters, but that show was about Jack and Karen – not the “straight man” characters.

Yes, because me noting what everyone else is saying re: shifting of goalposts and inability to follow a point, is just me being an over-sensitive woman.

Obtuse. You forgot obtuse. Which I don’t chalk up to being gender-specific. And I’ll ask you to note that you were the one playing the gender card here.

The goalposts remained firmly planted. Your interpretation of a very clear statement is what is causing confusion.

Here. Here’s a handy clarification:

Name one big name actor (e.g. someone who in the past five years has been cast in a leading role in a movie because he could actually generate box office) who has been cast in a successful sitcom (e.g. one that’s been renewed for more than one season)

I didn’t think I was talking to third graders. I won’t make the same mistake again.

Will & Grace may have been the title characters, but that show was about Jack and Karen – not the “straight man” characters.

Will & Grace “Will and Grace live together in an apartment in New York. He’s a gay lawyer, she’s a straight interior designer.”

Year Result Award Category/Recipient(s)
2001 Won American Comedy Award Funniest Supporting Female Performer in a TV Series
Megan Mullally

Funniest Supporting Male Performer in a TV Series
Sean Hayes

Nominated American Comedy Award Funniest Female Performer in a TV Series (Leading Role) Network, Cable or Syndication
Debra Messing

2000 Nominated American Comedy Award Funniest Female Performer in a TV Series (Leading Role) Network, Cable or Syndication
Debra Messing

Funniest Supporting Female Performer in a TV Series
Megan Mullally

Funniest Supporting Male Performer in a TV Series
Sean Hayes

I musta missed where the show was called “Jack and Karen”

Yeah, actor, it pretty much is goalpost moving. The greater point is whether or not buffoons are the sung-heroes of sitcoms, or it’s the straight-man character. And you know what, it’s not about whether a sophisticated fan of sitcoms enjoys the straight-men characters. I’ve often loved straight-man characters and my favorite American cartoon is the ultimate snarky straight-man character, Daria.

It’s about the slovenly mass that is humanity and what is true far more often than not. And that’s the goalposts that have been shifting like a losing team has been putting it on its back and carrying it to try and delay the field goal that will condemn them to a perfect losing season.

But it doesn’t really matter.

I really don’t care about sitcoms. They suck, they’re abusively insulting to the human race, and it’s their dry and unexamining repeating of gender norms and roles that make them so insufferable even when they do bother to do interesting deconstructions of their form like The Simpsons.

And you know what, I’ll even give you a solid win, because that’s what you are apparently arguing for anymore, your bruised and soiled ego. Yes, famous actors with successful movie careers and good current job prospects don’t star in sitcoms as buffoons or straight men.

Famous stand-ups do, previous stars who need a rebuffing do, and a number of careers have been launched by playing an idiot on a sitcom.

But that overly literal reading of what was on my part a missimplification?

Yeah, you’re right.

For all that matters.

Now who’s got a wingnut to eviscerate?

Came back late but did want to thank actor for the clarification on Mother Courage. Sadly, like a lot of Americans I hadn’t seen the play but had gone looking up info on the character after hearing a character in a different book I’d been reading compared to her. The Cliff-Notes-like stuff I found online misses a few nuances.

actor-

Oh Jesus fucking Christ, actor.

That question was the shifted goalposts.

Hell, you don’t even designate for buffoon or straight-man in your request!

You are basically shouting at the heavens to reality and making yourself look like a god damned idiot. Worse yet, a buffoon. If this was a sitcom, you’d be carrying the punchline like a boss.

Whatever you think you need from this conversation, just pretend we’ve given it to you, because you are basically just diminishing your cred with each self-fail you submit.

BTW, why did the convo become albout the relative fame of sitcom actors? It had absolutely NOTHING to do with the substance of the debate. Oh, I just answered my own question. Goal posts: MOVED.

Hell, you don’t even designate for buffoon or straight-man in your request!

Actually, I did specify “buffoon” originally. So nice of you to read my short posts so carefully.

BTW, why did the convo become albout the relative fame of sitcom actors? It had absolutely NOTHING to do with the substance of the debate.

vs, you really want to know? Cuz, it does. Cerb made it part of the discussion to defend your point.

Talk about goalpost shifting…

Here

Your quote numbnuts.

Your quote.

Yes, I understood the original request. Which was stupid because no famous actor on the top of their game plays straight men in sitcoms, because that’s an even bigger step down than playing the buffoon and you fucking well know it.

And fuck me and my SIWOTI disease because I can’t stop trying to explain Reality 101 to someone who decided to be a fucking idiot because their ego got bruised on their swing and a miss commentary on reality.

actor, I really couldn’t care less about your self-fail. If you want to continue looking like an idiot arguing what started as violent agreement, then carry on my wayward son.

Also what vs said.

it’s always a fun time in south dakota…

Whatever I can say about wingnuts and wingnut legislators, I must admit that this is a great turn of phrase:

Then the melee was on.

Beautiful.

…can’t say teh sisterhood is shortchanged in the funnystakes with Tina Fey and Jane Lynch at the top of their games.

I can say that teh sisterhood was shortchanged when Carol Burnett and Lily Thomlin were at the top of their games, and they were comic geniuses. It’s like what Chris Rock says about his neighborhood where three other genius black artists live, but the white guy who lives next door to him is a dentist— not any kind of fancy dentist, the regular kind you go to for teeth cleanings and fillings.

Goddamn, can we all just chill? I didn’t get this mad at Substance when he called me a racist.

(Actually, I did, but I managed to stay away from here until I cooled off.)

Oh, Carol Burnett is amazeballs. God, what a funny woman.

Then the melee was on.

right? that cracked me up…i am pretty sure i am the only one here who can say she has kissed a south dakota speaker of the house…

Oh, Carol Burnett is amazeballs. God, what a funny woman.

she is all-time amazeballs…

Oh, Carol Burnett is amazeballs. God, what a funny woman.

Did you catch her turn on Law & Order SVU? Pure genius.

So how is this micro-analyzing of TV sitcoms any different from what we were complaining about Bill Bennett doing just a little while ago?

Your quote numbnuts.

Yes, I understood the original request. Which was stupid because no famous actor on the top of their game plays straight men in sitcoms, because that’s an even bigger step down than playing the buffoon and you fucking well know it.

My quote was quoting you, dickhead. That first line? Was yours. Which, you know, you’d know if you’d bother to click back and look.

And again, you misquote the question. I didn’t give a rat’s ass about straightmen, I asked about buffoons because you were the one who was all about buffoons and fame and that shit

So how is this micro-analyzing of TV sitcoms any different from what we were complaining about Bill Bennett doing just a little while ago?

Thaaaaaaaaaaaank you! 🙂

I can say that teh sisterhood was shortchanged when Carol Burnett and Lily Thomlin were at the top of their games, and they were comic geniuses.

Bea Arthur and Jean Stapleton, too.

Major, bill Bennett was asserting that somehow men were being hurt by their buffoonish portrayals on TV. I was arguing that that it was a silly assertion. And it is. And actually proves something quite the opposite of what he was intending to prove.

The point is, Bill Bennett is wrong. About this and everything.

I hate it when the children fight. Almost as much as when they type about food.

The point is, Bill Bennett is wrong. About this and everything.

In a related story, scientists have determined that the ocean is “wet and salty”.

…no famous actor on the top of their game plays straight men in sitcoms, because that’s an even bigger step down than playing the buffoon …

I WILL MEET YOU ON A FIELD OF ONIONS, SIR!!!!

Leslie Nielson, Robert Hays, and Julie Hagerty are straight-persons extraordinaire and they would play just as well on television as they do in movies, given that they’re alive, which Nielson isn’t.

Leslie Nielsen is funny even from beyond the grave:

http://images.quickblogcast.com/81087-70991/LeslieNielsenTombStone.JPG?a=8

My response to this: you’re laughing at them, not with them. That’s not “the best lines” in my book by any stretch of the imagination. That’s snark, pure and simple.

nope, most of the time we ARE laffing with them because they are either being totes adorable/helpless/goofy or they are slagging the naggy hot wife in an backhanded way…even though they are ‘buffoons’ they are who people tune in for and who they cheer for…

also, as for moving goalposts, actor has a completely different way of thinking of who are ‘big names’…for those in ‘the biz’ i would imagine that chevy chase is no longer a ‘big name’ although for those of us on the other side, we find it ridiculous to not think of him as a big name…we don’t have that same frenetic ‘i must be in front of a movie/television camera at all times or i’m not a successful human being’ mindset as they do…so, yeah actor’s qualifiers should have been laid down first because of that…

Heh. I was just informed that the Lindsey Lohan playboy spread* is “very tasteful”. I’m feeling a bit skeptical for some reason.

She’s not covered in puke in the pix (no offense, VS!).

anti-feminism and the Patriarchy as exists isn’t all that kind to men either.

*Everyone* loses out in a culture that rules out half the population as possible decision-makers and ignores their talents and possible contributions.

It could be argued, of course, that the culture has already decided to ignore 99% of the population and restrict the potential pool of decision-makers to 1% of entitled inbreds, so it’s already so screwed that the further exclusion of women hardly makes a difference.

I hate it when the children fight. Almost as much as when they type about food.

The evil ACORN! squash last night was horrible, yet inexplicably my wife loved it. Evidently the only way I like squash if you turn it into basically a butter, brown-sugar, and nutmeg smoothie. But that’s not “healthy” or something. Phooey.

Did I mention not liking a single one of you?
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And all of your sitcoms suck.
.

I have no TV… I got nothing… and Rumproast is blocked at work.

**SOB**

OBS: winter squash cooked in broth with a little red curry paste and a bit of coconut milk makes a nice, warming winter soup.

Jeffraham: *sniffle*

Did I mention not liking a single one of you?

If you want to dislike me the line forms at the right. Now serving # 375

Did I mention not liking a single one of you?

I know what you mean, I only come here for the trolls.

In other news, the Duggars go for 20.

For god’s sake, by a television, people.

(And watch a sitcom with a well-established, uh, nevermind)

BUY

“Can I buy a “U” Alex?”

And that, friends, is a classic example of the ever-popular “de-lurk faceplant.”

You are welcome.

M.B. is the wurst.
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Looch is o.k., though.
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I love eeeeveryone!!!!

Proof that actor does not read Cerb’s comments carefully:
ranting like Tony Bennett.

He would NEVER let that one slide, I guarantee.

WTF? Mixing it up over sit-coms?

Uhh, then I guess “congratulations” go to the “winner”

RUN UNKNOTTINGPANTIES.EXE

I love eeeeveryone!!!!

Hippie.

Probably not really affiliated w/ the Cain-Train, but ….

GOPers being GOPers or ratfuck?

GOPers being GOPers or ratfuck?

Who can tell in our post-Poe world?

Who can tell in our post-Poe world?

I am not sure it matters any more, you know?

Actually, I would be quite heartened if there were a little more ratfucking on our side. At least balance this shit out, you know?

Looching the thread…

HOLYSHIT…more idiocy from local newspaper publisher:

Don’t know if our good friend, city native Bruce Hagevik, long-time newscaster for WCCO (who, by the way started his broadcast career here at KDIO), carries any weight with the station’s management…..but if so, he should give them some worthy advice to clamp down on the station’s morning talk-show host John Williams, as to how many times his arrogance misses the point on so many issues. For example, we cite the current craze of Wall Street protestors sweeping across the nation’s major cities, which has been growing for the past month! Williams has been adamant that the protestors should become more violent…..his thinking that by so doing, they will get more and quicker attention from our politicians. Dear John, you’re completely missing the point. From the very first protest, certainly after it grew to more than a dozen cities, our “stupid” politicians should have stepped up pronto to put an end to the protests, stopping the protests before they got so strong. So, John, let’s focus on the real issue….the utter lack of leadership among our “gutless” lawmakers on both side of the aisle….all of them acting as usual, with no response at all!!

can you fucking believe that?!?!

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Okay, in all honesty, some of you are tolerable.
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Even more so if you make be larf. You know who you are.

Even more so if you make be larf. You know who you are.

aw, shucks…

Larfist.

SB 5 going down by 2-1 so far.

Good times.

Almost as good as the Implosion of the Herminator.

Or, Herm the Love Machine.

I am so loving this.

I done my part, Looch.

NO, NO, and HELL NO!, you Koch-sucking scumbag governor.
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Nice, Thudner.

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i am holding out for the bubble of strangeness on the 18th…

I voted, so y’all can KISS MAH AYASS!

I hope all you Washington homies found the FUCKNO box for 1183.

Koch-sucking scumbag governor

Heh. You’re a UNION THUG SOROS ACORN BLACK PANTHER!

I’m so stealing that for myself.

RUN UNKNOTTINGPANTIES.EXE

KITTIES!!! I LOOKED AT EM HARD.

sigh.

It was dead when I got here, I SWEAR.

I voted, so y’all can KISS MAH AYASS!

i had no voting obligations this year…sigh…

I SWEAR.

Uh-HUH.

You gonna take a lie detector on that?

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Hey asteroid, look! It’s a target!

Hey asteroid, look! It’s a target!

A little under 15 minutes.

Come on asteroid, you can’t miss this one.

Better target