I Got Nothin’ . . .
Posted on October 22nd, 2009 by Tintin
. . . for you but this quote from Steve Chowder at Breitblart’s Little Peckerwoods:
Also, if it came down to Dennis Prager and Sean Penn in a fist fight, I’d bet the house on Prager.
And Ben Shapiro would so whip Brad Pitt’s butt.
Mud Wrestling!
(First?)
That’s Sean Penn? Holy crap. I mean…. he’s no Carrot Top. But, that is not expected. Still, who knows how many poison darts Prager has hidden in that accordion?
But… Why?
Tag-team: Jesus & Hitler’s brain v. Chuck Krauthammer & Chairman Mao’s corpse! Wagers anyone?
Ben Shapiro wants to do what to Brad Pitt’s butt??!
Hmmmm. I dunno. Is Jesus nailed to the cross for the match, or does he have full range of motion?
Looks like it was a bit chilly.
And don’t get me started on Davey and Goliath.
Shorter Crowderhead:
“Let’s you & him fight.”
I’d bet the house on Prager.
It’d take a jumbo loan for me to place a side bet on that.
Also, did Daddy finally wrest the squeezebox from Mama after all those sleepless nights?
Tintin, why’d you cut the last sentence?
What is it w/ these buffoons? Is he a little short on things to think about? Having finally decided, after much serious thought & research, whether Superman could beat The Hulk & which Green lantern was the bestest ever, has he moved on to imaginary combat between real people?
Think about it.
wow. thanks for the good laugh.
Well obviously, Alan Scott was the best Green Lantern. That said, Praeger vs Penn sounds like the rejected outpourings of a drunken writer for Deadliest Warrior.
I am reserving comment until I hear from the arbiters of culture whether it is High-brow or Low-brow to be aware who this “Sean Pitt” actually is.
Aquaman would totally decimate the goddam Batman. Just look at the percentage of land vs. water surface on this planet! Just something to think about…
Yep, those accordion-players are definitely as badass as they come.
Nobody ever messed with Lawrence Welk, & you know why?
Because everyone knew deep down that he could fuck your shit up BAD if you tried anything.
OT:this is what a real hero looks like to me.
Nobody ever messed with Lawrence Welk, & you know why?
Aren’t whelks closely related to limpets? They’re both very dangerous when enraged, y’know.
Whoa! Spicoli bulked up.
Head to comments for teh gold… and a classic example of Godwin in action
“But the new Jews in Hollywood are anti-Semitic filth; disgraces to their brethren. Decades ago they would have been the Kapos that willfully worked for the nazis.”
No, the Penn is mightier than the dork
Aren’t whelks closely related to limpets? They’re both very dangerous when enraged, y’know.
Do not taunt venomous whelk shell. Even the common North-Atlantic dog whelk secretes venom (like its more exotic relatives the murex shells). Though you have to go to the cone-shell family if you want something poisonous enough to kill humans.
Needless to say, they exist in Australia.
Jesus, he’s setting Prager up to die. Does he not remeber Sean Penn’s history of violence in the 80’s when he would beat up anyone holding a camera? He once allegedly beat up an entire amateur photography convention.
Sean Penn played the role of that sissy Harvey Milk so that means he probably isn’t a very good fighter, unlike that other guy who plays a real tough guy on the radio defending family values and stuff…
Penn survived Madonna. I can’t imagine Prager is anywhere near that dangerous.
And yeah, sure Godzilla’s got that atomic breath, but all King Kong has to do is wait until Godzilla hibernates for the winter, and then he’s got him. Just something to think about…
Well no shit, Shylock.
Uh…
Dowhatnow?
Sure, Elmer Fudd is armed, but his flesh is soft and tasty and Wiley E. Coyote is a very, very hungry predator.
What if Dennis Prager had a camera?
Do not taunt venomous whelk shell. Even the common North-Atlantic dog whelk secretes venom (like its more exotic relatives the murex shells). Though you have to go to the cone-shell family if you want something poisonous enough to kill humans.
Needless to say, they exist in Australia.
You say that like being the go-to place for deserts and venomous critters is a bad thing.
Yep, those accordion-players are definitely as badass as they come
Telling the truth can be dangerous business
Honest and popular don’t go hand in hand
If you admit that you can play th accordion
You’ll be kicking ass all through the land
WOLVERINES!!11!one1!
I’d bet on Prager too. Prager wouldn’t mind hitting below the belt (Queensbury rules are for defeatocrats) and if Penn were to do the same back to Prager, there would be nothing there to hurt.
That and Prager would bring a gun to a fist fight. Only defeatocrats wouldn’t bring a gun.
From Mr. Chowder’s bio:
Mr. Chowder is muy macho.
We’ll just ignore that little man-crush on Ben Shapiro, shall we?
The fact is, shut up.
You leftists KNOW you are USA haters, and will always loose against the Heartland. Why do you bother pretending anyone likes you, and your God-president? Not us. Not America.
The fact is, you are also faggots. And liberal media is biased. And.
In recent years, fed up with the rampant liberalism in Hollywood, comedy clubs, and among young people (it’s a pandemic, you know)
This is Excellent News!
For Republicans!
~
There are no more houses, because Jimmy Carter made the banks all give them to black people who stole them for ACORN.
Not a big surprise coming from anyone who continues to back the Neo-Con Fail Machine.
In recent years, fed up with the rampant liberalism in Hollywood, comedy clubs, and among young people (it’s a pandemic, you know), Steven decided to use his comedic arsenal for the greater good
So, basically, he’s admitting that no one found him funny when he swam in the big-person’s pool, so he has to find an audience that can’t get away. That makes sense.
So, basically, he’s admitting that no one found him funny when he swam in the big-person’s pool, so he has to find an audience that can’t get away. That makes sense.
Just farting in the wading pool gets the big lulz. It’s that kinda crowd.
Also, if it came down to Dennis Prager and Sean Penn in a fist fight, I’d bet the house on Prager.
TinTin, you miss the obvious point: Chowder is clearly struggling to pay off his mortgage and his house value is probably below the money he owes, so what’s to lose?
Wiley E. Coyote is a very, very hungry predator.
And a super genius.
Also if OT, Alan Grayson punks Paul Broun, and no one deserves it more’n him. I will not miss being represented by that asshole when I leave Athens.
I’m sorry, did he really use the phrase “Hollywood Jews” in the title? Is he really that lacking in self-awareness? Jeez. Talk about deserving a beatdown.
And hey: I don’t want to see any accordian-playa-hatin around here. Don’t make me go all Flaco Jimenez on your ass.
Fucking HTML. I’m still clueless. In other words, I’d like the opportunity to close Crowder’s eyes with my fists.
Also, if it came down to Dennis Prager and Sean Penn in a fist fight…
What Chowder’s scenario makes me think about is: how does it “come down” to this? I only see it happening in a post-apocalyptic world, perhaps in a confrontation over the last can of kippered herring at Zabar’s.
Isn’t Prager the one who let loose on his pet dachshund, and only after a prolonged battle finally prevailed?
Oh, God, I even read the comments.
I need a nap now.
Now here’s something. This article is ostensibly about morality, and about how “real” Jews are good people, even if “Hollywood” Jews are not. And the punch line is that a randomly selected “real” Jew could allegedly kick the ass of a randomly selected “Hollywood” Jew?
Is that how wingnuts determine moral standing now? My daddy can beat up your daddy, so he’s more beloved of God? That would explain so much about the Bush presidency.
What a chowderhead (sorry, couldn’t resist). Eh even Harvey Milk would’ve got out the whoopass on Mr. Accordian. Lame!
Somehow the phrase – when you got nothin, you got nothin to lose – is free-floating in my head in response to this, uh, drivel.
Um…pardon my ignorance, but is Sean Penn even Jewish? Does it matter?
And the punch line is that a randomly selected “real” Jew could allegedly kick the ass of a randomly selected “Hollywood” Jew?
It’d be fun if Penn got wind of this hypothetical bout and actually challenged Dennis Prager to a few rounds. Does a piss-soggy accordion still function?
Is that how wingnuts determine moral standing now? My daddy can beat up your daddy, so he’s more beloved of God?
They really think that punditry is the equivalent of battle, which is how this kind of hilarious fantasty continues to be a staple of their work. Writing columns that only other wingnuts read (and Sadly, No) or going on the TeeVee or talk radio is how they believe they are “fighting the good fight.”
The logical extension of this belief that words=war is that ridiculous game we were all laughing about last week, where the right wing’s triumphant militia brigades were led by those stalwart battle-hardened warriors, Andrew Breitbart and Sean Hannity.
So now we’ve got Dennis Prager engaged in someone’s fantasy Cage-Fight with a homo-loving liberal who came into the cross-hairs because he won an acting award and made a joke.
These guys are so pathetic. A paper-cut would take them down.
Um…pardon my ignorance, but is Sean Penn even Jewish?
He’s a Hollywood liberal! Of course he is!
But seriously, he is. I think on his paternal side.
Also if OT, Alan Grayson punks Paul Broun
That video absolutely made life worth living this morning, Matt T. Paul Broun’s gonna need him some unguentine.
Prager couldn’t beat Aquaman…Aquaman.
Carl Reiner supports Hamas? What the fuck is this guy even talking about?
Isn’t Prager the one who let loose on his pet dachshund, and only after a prolonged battle finally prevailed?
I’m pretty sure that was Dobson.
Steven decided to use his comedic arsenal
Cool. When is he gonna start?
What Chowder’s scenario makes me think about is: how does it “come down” to this? I only see it happening in a post-apocalyptic world, perhaps in a confrontation over the last can of kippered herring at Zabar’s.
OK, see, now that’s a fight where Prager might be desperate enough to go medieval on Penn enough to eke out a small victory long enough to swallow the can whole.
Oh, God, I even read the comments.
*sigh*
Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™
Is Penn Jewish?
No, but…
As long as he’s not upside-down on the mortgage, I’ll take that bet. Although I’d have to do something about that “workshop” that Crowder has down in the basement; I may have to hire very specialized cleaners for the job.
Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™
I have very poor impulse control. But usually I’m smart enough not to read the comments.
Although I’d have to do something about that “workshop” that Crowder has down in the basement; I may have to hire very specialized cleaners for the job.
Look, just hand the gimp already down there a mop…
Alan Grayson punks Paul Broun
Awesome. Talk about a mismatch.
He called Ben Shapiro “studly.” Looks like I’m going to taste my breakfast twice.
Also, Chowder.
But how would we tell Krauthammer from the corpse?
But how would we tell Krauthammer from the corpse?
Nobody puts a corpse in a wheelchair.
Quoth Ben Shapiro, “I’m not your boyfriend!”
“But the new Jews in Hollywood are anti-Semitic filth; disgraces to their brethren. Decades ago they would have been the Kapos that willfully worked for the nazis.”
I think someone is a little confused. I suspect that the “real Jews” who happily are on the same political side as those who go ranting and raving about “Hollywood Jews” and thus sound much like Nazis themselves (since we’re already Godwinned here, I figure I can link reactionaries to Nazis at will) would be the ones more likely to be Kapos than the “Hollywood Jews” who are of the same sort that used to be criticized for being “pre-maturely anti-fascist”.
I don’t want to see any accordian-playa-hatin around here
In a stringed instrument store in San Anselmo they have a small clipping under the glass counter from the AP. Dateline Berlin. ‘Police report that Berlin’s largest music store was broken into last night. Nothing was taken but a knife was used on eight accordions.’
If accordion players can’t take the hate they should put down the squeeze boxes.
What did the accordian player say to the dentist?
“This might hurt a little”
That’s like the story of the accordian player who was driving home from a gig with his accordian in the back of his car, and he got lost in a bad neighborhood. He pulled over to use a payphone (yes, now it is an obsolete joke) to call for directions, all the time looking over his shoulder in worry that someone would break into his car.
Sadly, when he returned to his car, his worst fears were realized. Someone had smashed the back window where his accordian was stored…..and put in three more accordians.
Alan Grayson punks Paul Broun
This guy Grayson is awesome. I just love the repeated, “Will the gentleman yield his time”. “No.” “Will the gentleman yield his time?” “No.” “Okay, how about now?” “No. I’m still waiting to hear if my colleague agrees with James Madison about what the damn Constitution says.”
How does a guy like that get elected? Why can’t there be more like him?
Accordion players spell it with a second ‘o’ to differentiate themselves from discordians.
What’s the difference between an accordion and an onion?
People cry when they chop up an onion.
A drummer, sick of all the drummer jokes, decides to change his instrument. After some thought, he decides on the accordion. So he goes to the music store and says to the owner, “I’d like to look at the accordions, please.”
The owner gestures to a shelf in the corner and says “All our accordions are over there.”
After browsing, the drummer says, “I think I’d like the big red one in the corner.”
The store owner looks at him and says, “You’re a drummer, aren’t you?”
The drummer, crestfallen, says, “How did you know?”
The store owner says, “That `big red accordion’ is the radiator.”
Talk shit about accordions and Fefita la Grande will kick your ass.
Talk shit about accordions and Fefita la Grande will kick your ass.
She’s an endangered species: an accordion player with a gig.
comedic arsenal
“Entire ass eater”, from the Latin com+edere “to eat up” and English “arse and all.”
Hmm.
Difference between a banjo and an accordian?
Banjo burns longer. Accordion burns hotter.
Also, speaking of utter shitbags…
Just wow.
Fucking Rockist accordion haters!
From Newfoundland, here’s a shirt with a couple of sturdy proletarian accordionists.
FYI, yes, they love their accordions up there. (And the little ones. Concertinas?) “49” means 1949, the year they joined Canada. And yes, they’ve got pink in their flag. Got a problem with it? Who cares–they’re tougher than you. Want proof? They live in fucking Newfoundland.
Also, speaking of utter shitbags…
At least he’s fucking honest.
Mr. Chowder.
Poker Game., 7 p.m. Tonite. My House. I’ll e-mail directions.
FREE FOOD (Whatever, you like!!!).
I actually like both banjo and accordion music. What does that make me? A real Jew, I guess?
(just occurred to me — I should have included a link to something about Bela Fleck in my last comment)
From justme’s link:
Oh yeah? So you and what army are going to enforce this, T. Boone? The one that’s exhausted, paying the locals not to shoot them, and bugging out ASAP? Good luck with that.
Pick on Douthat for a while. (Wonkettes were on top of this!! Lotsa catching-up to do! )
Then he explained: “I am someone opposed to gay marriage who is deeply uncomfortable arguing the issue in public.”
but
“If I were putting money on the future of gay marriage, I would bet on it.”
http://www.observer.com/2009/media/n1-panel-cat-got-douthats-tongue-topic-gay-marriage
Sadly, Ross had something to say a few months ago…
The outline is simple: Engage on abortion, and punt on gay rights.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/opinion/12douthat.html?_r=1
Hey! Let’s keep it fair. Accordion a accordion, as they say.
It should be Weird Al vs. Dennis Prager. I’d go for it on pay per view.
Don’t be dissin’ the accordian. Brave Combo uses a lot of accordian, and there’s no arguing with the brilliance of Brave Combo.
Pick on Douthat for a while.
You know, I think I’m going to cut WünderConservaKid a bit a slack. More self-awareness than I though he was capable of is exhibited in this statement:
Yes, I appreciate that Doo-doo-Hat is a complete asshole fuckwad twit and what he’s really saying is that he won’t debate gay rights because he knows he’ll lose – but there’s no way he’s changing his mind. Still, for a conservative this is a huge step forward.
I say, ‘Institutional support for reproduction’…
Odd argument from someone whose political philosophy is that government is always the problem.
Careful with that accordion, you might polka eye out.
‘Institutional support for reproduction’…
Oh, so that’s what the kids are calling it these days!
FWIW, the Tapper thread is still going. And Tapper is still deleting all comments from “JennOfArk”. I don’t know what I may have posted in the past that rendered me Tapper Enemy No. 1, but I sure wish I could remember – it must have been a doozy.
Also, Ruth Marcus of the WaPo has joined Tapper in his concern-trolling.
Are these people really so fucking stupid and such badly-educated journalists that they don’t know propaganda when they see it? Is Fox, like, offering them jobs and/or threatening their families? I really don’t get it.
D-KW
Isn’t that admission from Douthat the kind of thing that will drive the winger base (again) into frothing mania?
Studly?!?!?!
Are these people really so fucking stupid and such badly-educated journalists that they don’t know propaganda when they see it? Is Fox, like, offering them jobs and/or threatening their families? I really don’t get it.
It’s pretty simple, and Tapper illustrates this aptly. Journos are part of the power structure and as such don’t take threats to their role as such lightly. Tapper, to me anyway, is defending the D.C. press corps’ continued membership in the Kewl Kids Klub against a White House that is threatening to if not kick them out, at least marginalize them. Jake’s sucked a lotta dick to get where he is and he ain’t going back without a fight.
…the kind of thing that will drive the winger base (again) into frothing mania?
Yes, and for any value of “…”
“Are these people really so fucking stupid and such badly-educated journalists that they don’t know propaganda when they see it? Is Fox, like, offering them jobs and/or threatening their families? I really don’t get it.”
At what point do we just have to admit that these people really are just not very bright?
BWWaaHahaHAHAHahahA.
Shorter Ruth Marcus:
Shorter /Shorter Ruth Marcus:
“Don’t kick me out of the club!”
Isn’t that admission from Douthat the kind of thing that will drive the winger base (again) into frothing mania?
It’s not a bug, it’s feature. It allows the younger members of the pack to attack the old weak members of the tribe and rise themselves.
I would direct you to the studly Ben Shapiro’s work.
Closet cases, every one of them.
Obama’s popularity is sinking fast and his programs are proving to be ineffective. The economy remains mired in recession, unemployment is skyrocketing, and public anger at the bailouts is growing.
Meanwhile, Chris Christie and Bob McDonnell are poised to win the respective Governor’s races in Virginia and New Jersey, a clean sweep my Republicans. Conservatives are back in the saddle again, baby.
The American people want change, not more of the same.
I miss Judy Tenuta …
Reptards ain’t got nothing so we’re gonna steal your lines.
Go ahead and change your diaper, Time for a Change.
How does it make you feel that we’re about to make a clean sweep in the off-year election in TWO blue states, even with Hopey spending his political capital on Corzine (D-Incompetence) and Deeds (D-Hillbilly)?
And whats more, once McDonnell especially wins this, he’s going to be Presidential material.
Journos are part of the power structure and as such don’t take threats to their role as such lightly.
At what point do we just have to admit that these people really are just not very bright?
I’m beginning to think it’s both of these things.
And whats more, once McDonnell especially wins this, he’s going to be Presidential material.
Yeah, I’ll be sure to “bookmark” that. I’m sure I will be wondering how in the hell you were able to call it.
And whats more, once McDonnell especially wins this, he’s going to be Presidential material.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, you’re right, that whole “Fucking out of wedlock should be illegal” is a viewpoint all Americans can get behind.
And whats more, once McDonnell especially wins this, he’s going to be Presidential material.
Finally given up on Caribou Barbie, have we?
And whats more, once McDonnell especially wins this, he’s going to be Presidential material.
That mook? OK, you’re not even phoning it in now.
He’s going to be Governor of a “blue” state, Truculent. Swing voters really like him.
Naw, Buckwheat Zydeco.
Might you have suggested he’s the kind of ass that nobody wants to tapp?
Jo-El Sonnier.
What role in the federal legislative process does the Governor of Virginia have again, I forget?
Oh, that’s right. None.
A drummer, sick of all the drummer jokes
You know how you can tell if the drum riser is level, right?
g, It’s a sign that Republicans are coming back. When Christie wins in NJ it will be , too.
Libs should be nervous, two blue states getting Republican Governors.
Might you have suggested he’s the kind of ass that nobody wants to tapp?
Not a clue – given the unlimited number of asinine things Tapper has said, the field is wide open.
And it’s soooo sweet to see Hopey campaigning for people that will lose big.
And we’re leading in ALL the big Senate races for next year–Illinois, Colorado, Arkansas, New York, Pennsylvania….it’s gonna be a big sweep, especially because unemployment will be in double digits by then.
You know what they call a drummer with no girlfriend, right?
Homeless.
Time to Change Teh Troll…
there’s no arguing with the brilliance of Brave Combo.
Ayup. Love those guys. Hard to find a better live show or a nicer bunch of cats.
Also, too, for you squeebox haters, consider: Tom Waits, TMBG, Yo Lo Tengo, Teh Decemberists, Moxy Fruvous, etc, etc. It ain’t all Myron Floren, bitches.
*snort*
It’s so cute Troofie thinks some shmuck will beat Chuck Schumer.
Hell, David Patterson could kick any Republican’s ass for re-election to governor and his approval ratings rival Bush’s!
Conservatives are back in the saddle again, baby.
Well duh. They pay big money for that.
It should be Weird Al vs. Dennis Prager. I’d go for it on pay per view.
I’m trying to imagine “Dueling Banjoes” on accordion…
Chris Christie blew a fourteen point lead over Corzine to the point where Corzine now leads in polls, despite being the most unpopular governor in NJ since, well, Tom Kean.
Gotta love them Republicans! No wonder they’re impotent!
consider: Tom Waits, TMBG, Yo Lo Tengo, Teh Decemberists, Moxy Fruvous, etc, etc
I must add a couple of my other favorites…The Twilight Sad and Arcade Fire.
Accordions definitely have their place…bagpipes, however, can SUCK IT.
What is the difference between an accordion player and a terrorist?
Terrorists have sympathisers.
I’m disappointed nop one has mentioned the great Rico Bell yet.
No one, that is.
My favorite musician joke:
A sax player dies and ends up at the Pearly Gates, holding his saxophone case. Peter sees him and says, “Hey, I see you’re a sax player. You know, God has a band up here. We’ve got an opening in the sax section, would you be interested in gigging with the band?”
Sax player says, Sure, and he’s shown to the rehearsal studio.
And it’s amazing. There’s Gene Krupa on drums; Clifford Brown over in the horn section, John Coltrane in the tenor section, and Charlie Parker in the alto section – with an empty chair next to him.
The guy sits down, and looks at the charts on the stand – handwritten charts by Duke Ellington. He turns to Parker and he says, “Man, I can’t believe this. I’m in a band with you guys, I’m playing this music. This is really, truly my idea of Heaven!”
Parker says, “Yeah, well, kid, I don’t know about that.”
The guy says, “Oh, come on. What could be bad about this?”
Parker says, “Well, you see – God has this chick. And she sings.”
Are these people really so fucking stupid and such badly-educated journalists that they don’t know propaganda when they
seemake it?F1xx0rd.
Not Schumer, you idiot, Gilebrand. We’ll beat that stupid bitch, just like we will beat Deeds and Corzine.
And Charlie Crist will easily walk into that Florida senate seat.
it’s gonna be a big sweep, especially because unemployment will be in double digits by then.
Aww, ain’t that sweet? It’s like he’s just wishing for Santa to leave something special under the tree – hoping for a rise in unemployment.
There’s the spirit of the right wing right there – hoping for misery so they can exploit it.
Who’s Gilebrand?
Gillibrand, your other Senator. She’s so boring nobody even remembers how to spell her name.
Conservatives are back in the saddle again, baby.
Veiled barebacking reference.
Who’s Gilebrand?
Apparently she’s “that stupid bitch,” which is such a lovely and clever turn of phrase, no?
The fact that Democrats are about to lose in NJ and VA proves that 2008 was a fluke driven by Obama’s personality cult and racial guilt, and that his “supporters” are so stupid that they don’t even know about off-year elections.
“Apparently she’s “that stupid bitch,” which is such a lovely and clever turn of phrase, no?”
Yeah, cause “Chimpy” and “Caribou Barbie” were sooooo clever. Moron.
I hope Chowder remembers the last time some teabagger picked a fight with a
liberal. Yeah, NOM Chompski bit the damn fool’s fingertip off.
Prager would have a real hard time playing that squeezbox with no digits.
My old music teacher’s definition of a gentleman musician: “A man who can play the banjo, but doesn’t.”
Also: Accordians
Charlie Crist will easily walk into that Florida senate seat.
Obviously someone didn’t get the memo that Crist=old and busted and Rubio=teh new hotne$$
I hope Chowderhead remembers the last time a teabagger started a fight with a liberal. Yeah, NOM Chompski bit the damn fool’s fingertip off.
Prager’d have a real hard time playing that accordion without any digits.
His sex life would be nonexistent.
…a fluke driven by Obama’s personality cult and racial guilt…
So powerful that its effects went back in time.
Badger, nobody asked for your opinion, Ass-burger retard. Now go back to memorizing train schedules or whatever it is you retards do for fun.
Dragon, you also need the Bush bogeyman, which doesn’t work anymore. Americans have a short memory. Deeds and Corzine tried the EVIL BOOOOOSH carp and it wasn’t effective.
There’s the spirit of the right wing right there – hoping for misery so they can exploit it.
Oh, but who cares about that as long as your side wins? Then you can crow about stupid libs while complaining how mean and uncivil they are.
Who cares what happens to the country in the process. All that matters is “winning” the “game”.
Christie–the guy who blew a ~16 pt lead–is gonna win? I’ll happily put $50 on Corzine.
But VA probably is a lost cause.
Trolls are like Slinkies. Not useful for anything, but fun to watch when you push them down a flight of stairs.
My favorite musician joke:
Fellow walks into a pub in Belfast with a plastic bag under his arms.
The bartender asks “What’s that?”
“Six pounds of semtex”, he answers.
“Thank the Lord,” he says, “I thought it was a bodhran!”
Why do you suppose VA is a lost cause cyntax? Answer that question and you will get to the root of the problem with the Democrat Party.
nobody asked for your opinion
Now that you bring THAT up…..what are you doing here, Toofy?
“Badger, nobody asked for your opinion”
Fully loaded diaper, you are a laugh riot. Typical of right-tard thinking: HE gets to give an unsolicited opinion, but no one else does.
EVIL BOOOOOSH carp
I can see why accusing the former president of being a fish may not have been a successful campaign move.
Damn WordPress is eating mah comments!
I hope Chowderhead remembers the last time a teabagger started a fight with a liberal. Yeah, NOM Chompski bit the damn fool’s fingertip off.
Prager’d have a real hard time playing that accordion without any digits.
His sex life would be nonexistent.
The height of irony, actually – a troll posting “nobody asked for your opinion.”
LOL!
Troofie thinks DINO Kirsten Gillibrand will LOSE?
OMFG! That has got to be the stupidest thing he’s ever said!
I hope Chowderhead remembers the last time a teabagger started a fight with a liberal. Yeah, NOM Chompski bit the damn fool’s fingertip off.
Prager’d have a real hard time playing that accordion without any digits.
His sex life would be nonexistent.
Giuliani will crush her, especially since 2010 will be an anti-Democrat year.
BTW the Democrats can’t even win in NYC this year…LOL!
Why do you suppose VA is a lost cause cyntax? Answer that question and you will get to the root of the problem with the Democrat Party.
If that’s the case then the Christie campaign must be the root of the problem with Republican Party.
…you also need the Bush bogeyman…
Really T4? Really?
Let me ask you this, what does it take to be number one?
Two is not a winner, and three – nobody remembers.
I. Am. Number. One.
</Patti Ann Browne>
No, what I was going to say was:
BWAAaahHAHahAHahAHAHAHHAHAAa
Look there’s a cherry!
There’s a poll number!
Look here’s a fact to piiiiick!
Troofus, dumb and desperate!
Always dumb, and desperate!
That’s the Troofus, he’ll always beeeeee!
Fuck you Troofus! and that’s from me!
can see why accusing the former president of being a fish may not have been a successful campaign move.
But Bush did believe humans and fish could peacefully co-exist.
LOL Christie is still slightly ahead, even with the spoiler in the race, and he WILL win. And you’re gonna hear ALL about in the media the next day, the narrative will be on our side.
Shouldn’t Troofie be yelling and screaming about ZOMG teh Ohbamaist enemieslist and how they hates Fox News and kept Rush Limbagh from buying the St. Louis Browns and WHARRGARBL!!!!!11!1!
wOVEREENZ
The fact that Democrats are about to lose in NJ and VA proves that 2008 was a fluke
And 2006 was a nightmare.
Sorry Troofie. Fail. Epicly.
BTW the Democrats can’t even win in NYC this year…LOL!
Really? REALLY??!? (see comments)
Almost no one wants to be a Republican anymore.
Time to point and laugh.
Giuliani will crush her
Yes, he did so well in the Presidential primaries, I fear he will be unbeatable in the state that knows him best. I mean, look how he did in NY on Super Tuesday.
We’ve secretly replaced Troofie’s teething ring with this unwashed buttplug. Lets see if he notices.
WordPress is showing no love for the bastard at all!
Back on topic-accordion!
Shouldn’t Troofie be yelling and screaming about ZOMG teh Ohbamaist enemieslist and how they hates Fox News and kept Rush Limbagh from buying the St. Louis Browns and WHARRGARBL!!!!!11!1!
Of course not, because a governor’s race will have such an enormous impact on revitalizing the national economy, stopping Iran from getting nukes and reversing global warming!
*snark*
proves that 2008 was a fluke…
Why is this dude so obsessed with fish?
Giuliani will crush her
LOLOLOLLOL!
And piss off Al D’Amato?????
OMFG!!!
You really are a moron, you know that? No Republican who wants any kind of future is going to challenge Gillibrand, you fucking ape!
My binky tastes especially sweet today. That’s how I know the Democrat party is going down next year!
I mean, look how he did in NY on Super Tuesday.
Getting skunked by Mr. 3VOLution in your home state? Priceless!
But hey, at least he beat the diaper, the token, and the psycho.
Hoo, boy, if you think Giuliani is gonna crush anything bigger than a tin can in any election after his mind-boggling, poorly-run Presidential Campaign, with its offensive focus on making political hay out of 9/11, then you are a bigger idiot than I suspected.
And I suspected you of being an idiot of legendary proportions already, so…congratulations Troofie. You’re finally the very best at something, even if it is mouth-breathing.
Anyway, I’ll add this page to my bookmarks, while I wait for that great liberal freakout to start….
Giuliani had dropped out by Super Tuesday.
Tomm,
Rudy floated a trial balloon when Gov Patterson was having his troubles with the White House about challenging him for the gubenatorial spot next year.
The sound of crickets chirping was deafening. It’s hard to believe, but his poll numbers actually dropped in the state after he said that.
Exactly.
kingubu – I hired Brave Combo to play a big party I had back in 98 – that was the biggest blast ever. Everyone from old people to little kids got into the dancing.
Also: the Pogues, another brilliant band that used the accordian.
Giuliani had dropped out by Super Tuesday.
That’s the best you can do? Crawl back into your crib and pull your blankie over your head, buddy.
The Pouges are brilliant.
the diaper, the token, and the psycho
Which one is which?
Quoted for lulz, with citations to help Time For Some Strange to make its case.
You’re welcome, Time.
That ABC poll was of “adults” not “likely voters”. It’s worthless.
JM,
In fairness, Rudy had dropped out by the Super Tuesday vote in NYS.
Of course, he was trailing in fourth place here when he dropped out…hell, Ron Paul almost outpolled him!
That ABC poll was of “adults” not “likely voters”.
Yes, folks you read that correctly: Apparently Troofie thinks they poll likely voters three years out! LOL!!!!
Yes, but …
… so, I’m sorry. What were you saying?
Or perhaps “why are you saying anything?” would wrap things up more quickly.
Yeah, that poll was of “humans”, not ‘Bush Republicans, Teabaggers, and KKK Members”. It clearly doesn’t count.
I want the nation to fail and sink deeper into financial crisis! I want more people to die from lack of insurance! I want more people to lose their homes!
Because then we will WIN! Bookmark it, libs!
It’s like he was one of those tractor pull things on his brain. He gets dumber with every post.
Actor, the Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls both poll likely voters, idiot. They have Hopey around 49-50% and dropping.
Rudy and Sarah could run as a team – Two quitters!
Time for another nym, Troofie.
Actor, the Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls both poll likely voters, idiot.
Yeah, they did that before. Pointless.
Since you don’t know the difference between the two samples, you can’t possibly know why it’s a stupid thing to do.
comedic arsenal
A stockpile of pimples.
In other news, the plural of ‘comedo’ turns out to be ‘comedones’. I did not know that. Did you know that?
(And the little ones. Concertinas?)
Concertinas were invented by Wheatstone, the physicist (I read this fact in one of Alex Comfort’s books, and now feel compelled to pass it on whenever possible).
These people went a long way to reconcile me to the existence of the accordion.
Likely voters will be the ones voting this year and 2010, not the stupid children and ghetto trash that voted for Obama in 2008 that don’t understand things like “downballot races” and “off year elections”.
And Hopey will be campaigning for Deeds LOL that’s going to bring him down even more! I love it!
How did “Hopey” become the default insult for Obama, anyway? Don’t these rubes know Hopey is one of the most awesome comic book characters of all time?
Fox has Obama at 55-41, Gallup at 56-40, Quinnipiac at 53-47, NBC/WSJ at 56-33.
Using “likely voters” when you’re nowhere near an election is a way of including intensity w/out having to admit it up front. Cute, huh?
Meanwhile, Obama’s favorability inside and outside the South:
So, White Trash America can vote until their fingers turn blue, but they don’t matter.
Yeah, cause “Chimpy” and “Caribou Barbie” were sooooo clever. Moron.
Actually, those names are more clever than “stupid bitch” and “moron.”
Just sayin’
Actor, the Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls both poll likely voters, idiot
I’m real proud for you a212 for getting this shout out from Troll-fie, and Imma gunna let yyou finish, but Beyonce had the best daily tracking polling of all time. OF ALL TIME.
…And there it is, the racism. Sad, Troofus, just sad.
Christie can’t stop putting his foot in his mouth. He’d probably have had a much better chance at winning if he had sit quietly and let Corzine dig his own holes.
The voters hate Corzine, but they’ve found out that Christie’s just as odious, and they’re likely going to go with the evil they know.
So Gallup has Obama ahead 54% to 46%, but for some reason, you think he’s dropping despite the fact Bush was polling less than 50% just before 9/11 in the same poll?????
LOL!
OMG THE LIBERAL IS CALLING HIM FAT
You’re goddamned liar, Actor, Gallup has Hopey at 51%.
No, they’re the ones who say they will be voting today and who knows if they will later? The point is that ‘likely voter’ models rely on conditions at the time of the election itself. Saying you have a sample of “likely voters” for both 2009 and 2010 at the same time is gibberish.
Ah. An irrelevant old white racist. Why am I not surprised?
Hey, why feed the troll when you can look at pictures of a sexy accordionist?
Gallup at 56-40
Epic. Fail. Troofie.
Hey, why feed the troll when you can look at pictures of a sexy accordionist?
You can’t fool me! That’s Jimmy Sturr, photoshopped!
Says the person who called an entire region “white trash America”. Racism: ok when directed against whites.
Geeze, all Crackertron 2000 knows is that Obama’s gonna LOOOOOOOZ!!!!1!!1!!!11!!
… but he doesnt’ know why.
The voters hate Corzine, but they’ve found out that Christie’s just as odious
The NY Times hasn’t finished scrubbing Christie’s past.
There are some…sexual improprieties…yet to be revealed.
Tedious troll is tedious.
Guys, mouseover. For the hair-trigger link-clickers:
Gallup daily tracking is “adults”.
Actually, those names are more clever than “stupid bitch” and “moron.”
Agreed, and having been called a stupid bitch on a couple of occasions, I’d argue that “Caribou Barbie” or even “Chimpy” aren’t really that bad in comparison.
In fact, “Caribou Barbie” is kind of cute and I would totally want that to be my nickname if I were from the Frosty North.
Tell us about Zimbabwe again, Troofy. We need your penetrating insight.
Says the person who called an entire region “white trash America”. Racism: ok when directed against whites.
Not “whites.” “White trash.” You even quoted it, but didn’t read it!
“White trash” is not a race, it’s a lifestyle choice. They’re the ones turning the Republicans into a mere regional, sectarian, ethnic, separatist party.
Good luck with that!
Likely voters will be the ones voting this year and 2010
That word, “likely” – I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Which party has the better GOTV system? Which party has a HUGE advantage in real popularity with actual voters as a whole (as opposed to “likely” voters who may or may not vote on election day)? Which party is trying to accomplish positive change, & which party is pouting like a two-year-old with a full diaper while its popularity keeps hitting record lows? Which party is reaching out to America’s growing demographic of non-whites while their opponents desperately entrench themselves as Teh Cracker Partay & turn themselves into a regional fringe-group with ever-more-extreme rhetoric? Which party bases their policy on wild radical concepts like logic, ethics & reality, while their opponents put out budgets without numbers or wave around blank papers in Congress?
The GOP is the author of its own fail.
Please, continue.
We need your penetrating insight.
No, no we don’t. I don’t want to think about him penetrating anything.
Also: ACORN.
Also.
How did “Hopey” become the default insult for Obama, anyway?
Good question. I think Obama insults come in several interesting categories.
First there’s the emasculating ones, like “Obambi,” and “Zero.”
then there’s all the obvious insults that are all based on the concept of “the Other.”
But the third category is a kind of odd attempt to insult his followers through him – I think that’s where “Hopey” fits; also “The One” and the like. It’s a peculiar psychology on the right, using the idea of Hope as an insult, but the well of mean-mindedness and negativity on their side is pretty fathomless.
Personally, I like the idea of having a hot punk lesbian as our president. So keep up the “Hopey” talk, conservatards!
It’s a peculiar psychology on the right, using the idea of Hope as an insult, but the well of mean-mindedness and negativity on their side is pretty fathomless.
It also reeks of projection. “Obamessiah?” Hell, even if I did believe in the messiah ennumerated in the religion I was brought up in, I sure as hell wouldn’t be looking forward to an eschatological nightmare just so the guy would show up.
First there’s the emasculating ones, like “Obambi,” and “Zero.”
Ohhhh, I’m not very smart. I always thought “Obambi” was some sort of racist slur trying to make his name *more* African or something.
And grown-up Bambi is a total badass. He totally kills a dude who’s trying to get on his lady. And then he gets shot saving her life!
It also reeks of projection.
In more ways than one. Conservatives are, at heart, authoritarian followers, so they have a hard time understanding the difference between really liking a guy and his policies and his speeches and worshiping the dude and following his every edict. The whole “Hitler gave good speeches, too” thing is not just disturbing because they think Hitler gave good speeches; it’s also disturbing that they seem to think that motivating and inspiring people is the same thing as scaring the shit out of people and inspiring hate in them.
Does he get shot? It’s been years since I saw it. It’s his mom that gets shot – isn’t Bambi still alive at the end?
isn’t Bambi still alive at the end?
’tis but a flesh wound.
Bambi does get shot while fleeing the fire as a fawn, but the movie ends with him the proud father of a set of twins, his own father walking away over the ridge into the sunset.
Oh wait, hang on…he’s already got horns when the fire hits so he must have been an adult. My error. It’s been years since I’ve seen it.
How did “Hopey” become the default insult for Obama, anyway?
This one stumpy little jerkoff who writes for the Chicago Tribune writes about “smoking Hopium,” which grows on an “Obama Chia Pet head.” And if you take offense, you’re the racist.
Back to the topic such as it is, I would love to see a fist fight between Sean Penn and Dennis Prager.
the stupid children and ghetto trash that voted for Obama in 2008
So if 53% of the United Snakes are stupid children & ghetto trash, why don’t you vote w/ your feet & move?
Note: “Smart” (reactionary) “adults” & white trash are not increasing their proportional representation in the electorate. Last gasp time there, bridge-dweller.
Man, that troll got a whackin’ today!
proves that 2008 was a fluke…
Why is this dude so obsessed with fish?
I read it as an obsession with internal parasites, which is more understandable.
Man, that troll got a whackin’ today!
Whackin’ is pretty much Troofie’s raison d’être.
“…obsession with internal parasites…”
Ah, so professional courtesy then.
Prager wouldn’t fight, he would just lecture everybody on how Penn’s desire to fight is proof that “The Left” lacks moral character, unlike himself who has the clarity to call a monster a monster (yes I have listened to this guy’s radio show way too many years).
Christie–the guy who blew a ~16 pt lead–is gonna win? I’ll happily put $50 on Corzine. – cyntax
And this is a reason why we liberals should rest assured that we’ll win 2010?
Seems to me that the main reason the Dems will do well in this off year election is simply that the GOP insists on shooting itself in the foot in the name of ideological purity (they are everything the so-called liberal media claimed the Dems were during our years of political exile). If the GOP can get its act together, it will do pretty well, unfortunately.
Why? Because the Dems. simply are not living up to what we would imagine Dems. would do. More importantly, the Dems in charge are not particularly competent nor good at playing the political game. Take, for example health care “reform” — it looks like the Dems are so busy trying to compromise that what’ll come out of the sausage making will end up hurting all of us and siphoning more of our money to insurance companies. And people will remember this screw-over as not a “bipartisan compromise” but as a “Democratic ‘reform’ that the GOP didn’t support” (especially when no GOoPer votes for it).
Similarly, Team Obama is still SNAFU prone, even if not as much as Bush & CO. For example, why was I stuck on Rt. 80 for 20+ minutes last night when the Presidential motorcade went through? Couldn’t they have arranged things so that if they were going to close a major artery down that people would have some notice or at least be diverted off of the freeway before hand?
People have short memories. They will remember all the Dem. screw-ups and that the GOP didn’t support any of them. They won’t remember that the GOP is worse. So they’ll vote for the GOP again, because “even the liberal media is ragging on the Dems”.
If the Dems. want to keep winning, they can’t rest on their laurels. What the Dems need to do is act like Democrats (which is why we elected them in the first place). Dems want health care reform (well maybe they really don’t, but we elected them because they claimed they want this)? Well, then they should give us real health care reform that actually benefits people (and doesn’t make things worse for too many people) that way people will have a reason to continue voting Dem.
At the very least, as the party that claims government should take an active role in things, the Dems. need to be more competent at governing. If people are kept waiting 20+ mins in stopped traffic because of a motorcade, they will similarly wonder about waiting lines at gummint-run health care clinics. And they will get angry at the Dems. and vote GOP.
Pardon me for sounding like a concern troll here, but let’s stop with the “raw-raw Dems are gonna win” (the Tinkerbell strategy is so GOP anyway) and start thinking about how to push the Democrats to be the liberals the American people elected them to be. If the Dems. embrace liberalism, which is successful, then there will be good results and Dems. will be re-elected.
But if Dems act as if liberalism is not gonna be successful, why would people vote for a party which doesn’t even believe in itself? If Dems “compromise” and those compromises turn out to be FUBAR, then the Dems still supported a FUBAR policy meanwhile the GOP, having voted against it comes out clean even if they were the ones pushing the “compromise” that made what would have been a good idea FUBAR!
That Corzine will likely only win because Christie flubbed it does not inspire any confidence. What happens when the GOP stops shooting itself in the foot?
Here’s how self respect works in Truth land;
1.) Spend years driven by an obsessive compulsive hate to troll liberal blogs, desperate to hurt the posters on them.
2.) Become so blinded by hate that you are no longer able to even recognize objective reality; such as making electoral predictions, and demanding that people bookmark them, and managing to call every single state wrongly. And claiming Giuliani is going to win NYC when his former Police Commissioner and photo op buddy, and George W. Bush suggestion for Sec. of Homeland Security is going very publicly to jail.
3.) Become so crippled by venom that you can’t even bear to see liberals any more, and promise that you’ll never, ever come back to Sadly, No!
4.) Seethe, and seethe, and seethe in psychotic rage as you watch the news day after day, desperately hoping you’ll find something which will allow you to break your word, and go back online to hurt liberals again.
5.) Finally read something, somewhere, that your addled mind can justify using to crawl back to Sadly No with. Never mind that it’s as bad an understanding as all your other now famously wrong claims, never mind that it’s not just an automatic Fail by showing your face after what you’ve said in the past, but it’s a complete betrayal of yourself, your soul and any decent life you may once have been capable of achieving for yourself in your short time here on earth, you think shouting that there’s the slightest possibility Democrats might lose one or two unimportant-in-the-wider-scale-of-things elections will upset them, and that’s all you have left.
If the GOP can get its act together, it will do pretty well, unfortunately.
Why? Because the Dems. simply are not living up to what we would imagine Dems. would do. More importantly, the Dems in charge are not particularly competent nor good at playing the political game.
I’ll give you that last point, but that first one is inconsistent: either the country supports the Democratic platform (admittedly, more centrist than we’d like) and so would vote for it again if they maintain it, or we got lucky the past two elections due to anger at Republicans, so any ideological position we take would be a losing proposition.
I’m not sure I understand the point.
Bon Scott disagrees.
actor212: you assume people vote in an ideologically consistent manner to begin with.
I think we should lay off Andrew Breitbart. I can’t even imagine the hell that guy is going through.
There aren’t many people who have to live with such an obvious discrepancy between his own regard for his worth and the public’s unwillingness to accept his greatness. He can only be in a lot of pain.
Think of the people you know who have so badly underperformed on their own self-opinion. Do they seem like a happy lot to you? Seriously, I feel pretty sorry for Breitbart, and Sadly, No! picking on him seems like so much piling-on given the way he’s been thoroughly ignored by everyone else.
You’re fucking kidding me, right? The biggest bitch you have about Obama is that you were … 20 minutes late? Really?
Don’t get me wrong — I agree that Democrats should start acting like liberals and all, and that if they don’t get shit done they’ll be consequences.
But arguing about traffic is pretty fucking absurd, and means … nothing. It happens to every city the President visits (and they don’t exactly give out the route he’s taking — I’ll let you do the math as to why).
Too late!
As soon as I see anyone doing that, I’ll start to worry. Since no one actually is, however, I won’t.
I’ve been trying that for years. But, sadly, it ain’t gonna happen on a widespread scale until progressives start having the financial clout to toss around that the mushy-middle and center-right does.
actor212: you assume people vote in an ideologically consistent manner to begin with.
Granted, but there’s still a circular logic in that appraisal that makes little sense, even allowing for the fact that people are inconsistent. There has to be some logic that would have them vote Democratic for the two past elections, but then suddenly switch back for no apparent reason (remember, the Republican party has actually lost both adherents and independent support in just this past year, despite the economy and Obama’s perceived handling of that).
start thinking about how to push the Democrats to be the liberals the American people elected them to be.
See, here’s the inconsistency: we ran centrist candidates, not liberals. If we push the Dems to be more liberal, that’s a sure fire way to lose elections in this environment (some states excluded, of course, and now I’d add that more states can appear on the exclusion list).
There has to be some logic that would have them vote Democratic for the two past elections, but then suddenly switch back for no apparent reason (remember, the Republican party has actually lost both adherents and independent support in just this past year, despite the economy and Obama’s perceived handling of that). – actor212
Here’s the logic (assuming people are logical):
2006,2008: people realize that the GOP sucks major ass and finally start voting for Democrats
2009: people are upset at Democrats but still remember the GOP is batshit insane (and the GOP keeps reminding them of that)
But people’s memories are short. If the GOP stops shooting itself in the foot, people will forget how batshit crazy the GOP is. And, if the Democrats, e.g., pass a health care “reform” bill that mandates everybody buy health insurance and does nothing to really control costs, then all people will remember is “Democrats voted for a major give-away for the insurance companies and the GOP opposed it” (and not even remember the GOP’s role in crafting the sucky compromise bill) and then be more likely to vote for the GOP (because the GOP is “calling it like it is by saying how much government screws things up”).
we ran centrist candidates, not liberals
As far as many people are concerned, anybody to the left of Holy Joe is a liberal. Brand Democrat is brand liberal. Whether our candidates were liberals or ran as such is somewhat irrelevant. Decades of “even the liberal media thinks [bland centrist Democrat X] is a shrill liberal” means that a vote for Democrats is a vote for liberalism.
You do have a point, though. In some states brand liberal is not a good brand and people voted for Dems in spite of “all Dems are liberal” not because of it. But again what people want is results. If we believe liberalism will produce good results, then we should be pushing the Dems to be more liberal. A quasi-red-state, self-proclaimed “centrist” swing voter is not going to vote for a Dem because “well, that Dem is not too liberal” but vote for a Dem “in spite of the fact that she’s liberal because — well, her votes have been for things that make my life better and against things that make my life worse”.
So, if the Dems embrace liberalism, it makes people’s lives better, people will continue to vote Dem even if they claim to be “centrists”. OTOH, if the Dems screw things up (e.g. by making compromises with the GOP, which then goes and doesn’t even support the compromises — and these compromises turn out to be disasters) and generally are incompetent, people will say “these Dems claim government is the solution to every problem, but look at how FUBAR they’ve made things — maybe the GOP is right and government is the problem” and vote GOP.
At the very least, people know that they are “pragmatic” and “non-ideological” and they know that we know that. So if Dems tack too centrist and are too willing to compromise it just comes off with voters saying to themselves “if Dem [X] thinks he’ll get my vote — when he knows that I vote for the ‘best candidate’ independent of ideology — by compromising, then that means he thinks that the best approach is to compromise — and if even the liberal Dem. [X] doesn’t believe in liberalism, why should I?”.
As far as many people are concerned, anybody to the left of Holy Joe is a liberal. Brand Democrat is brand liberal. Whether our candidates were liberals or ran as such is somewhat irrelevant. Decades of “even the liberal media thinks [bland centrist Democrat X] is a shrill liberal” means that a vote for Democrats is a vote for liberalism.
I get this, to an extent. But I think the average voter would be hard pressed to call Jon Tester or Jimm Webb or Kirstin Gillibrand “liberal”, particularly as these are the Blue Dog Democrats we’re all so angry at, and who have gotten major press for being obstructionist to Nancy and Harry.
(and they don’t exactly give out the route he’s taking — I’ll let you do the math as to why) – Mark D.
I understand why they don’t give the route he’s taking. But when they close a freeway, they can at least make sure that people have a way to get off the freeway instead of just being stuck on it for what for all the stuck people know could be hours. They could divert people at exits, close off express lanes, etc.
Here’s the thing in general. People don’t give a flying fuck about what happens in DC or anywhere until it affects them personally. And then they get mad as hell about it. Why do people hate gummint? Why all the rhetoric? Why do people believe that government run health care will result in huge waiting periods? Well, how much of that is because people have had to spend a whole day in the DMV or the social security office or even in the post office?
And part of the reason why Dems are doing better politically is that, by and large, many DMV offices are no longer night-mares of inefficiency (offer not valid in parts of NYC), the internet has made waiting in a huge line at the post-office not so common of an occurrence, etc.
When government is competent and doesn’t inconvenience people, people like it. But when it runs around constantly generating SNAFUs (even if the GOP is in charge and generating said SNAFUs), then people believe what the GOP says about “government being part of the problem” and vote for GOoPers.
who have gotten major press for being obstructionist to Nancy and Harry. – actor212
Yes, but that’s the “liberal media just standing up for ultra-liberal Democrats like Nancy and Harry against the mainstream, liberal Democrats”. Note that people tend to interpret whatever the media says in light of the media’s supposed liberalism. You and I know this is ridiculous, but I know otherwise educated, smart people who should know better (e.g. some of my colleagues — who are college professors!) who still think the media is “liberal”!
In my experience with people outside of left-blogostan, they routinely claim to be moderates, adopt positions on issues that are actually quite liberal but find “liberals” (which includes pretty much every Democrat as far as they are concerned) to be “too liberal”. Most people have a pretty strange combination of sophistication about political matters and a complete and utter lack of awareness about where they lie on the political spectrum and where various politicians lie on said spectrum (or is it lay? I always get this confused …).
DAS–
A few notes:
1. The Secret Service decides what routes to take and what highways to shut down. That’s not Obama’s fault. So your bitching about it is still invalid as a criticism of Obama.
2. You wrote:
I don’t know … why do people believe in Bigfoot? Or the Loch Ness monster? Or even ::gasp:: God?
I’ll tell you why: People have been told over and over and over again for years and years and years that those things are true. Thus, when the GOP spends decades screaming about how the government doesn’t work, people start to believe it, regardless of the truth.
Uh … wow. That’s quite possibly the dumbest non-Troofie-created thing I’ve ever read in the comments section of this blog.
The Democrats are doing better politically because the American public is finally starting to realize that Republicans are clinically fucking insane. The GOP can longer hide that fact — hell, it’s decided to double down on the crazy, so that ain’t changing any time soon.
Add in policies that Americans want, and you get the 2006 and 2008 ass kickings. It’s also why getting health care right is so damn important.
Dude, it really is simple: The only reason any gov’t program doesn’t work is because someone in gov’t decides it shouldn’t work. Not can’t, because literally thousands of programs have worked very, very well. But shouldn’t.
That’s why the Bush gang didn’t send enough forces to Iraq for either the invasion or reconstruction — they wanted to privatize a bunch of that work to their buddies in the private sector.
How’d that work out?
This, this, a thousand times this. Look, I’ll be honest: politically, I’m very much a right-libertarian. I shouldn’t be here agreeing with you guys on anything. But the modern Republican Party is so completely unhinged that I have nowhere else to go. And I don’t really see that changing either.
Here’s what I think happened. Historically, the GOP has always been an uneasy alliance of libertarians (e.g. “fiscal conservatives”) and authoritarians (e.g. “social conservatives”). Sometime between 2000 and 2008, however, the libertarian elements were jettisoned from the party’s platform. Maybe it was the deficit. Maybe it was the wars. Maybe it was gay marriage. Or maybe it was the fact that they strapped a rag over the Constitution’s mouth and poured water down its throat hundreds of times. (Metaphorically speaking — or so I assume. I haven’t been to the National Archives recently.) Regardless, once the small-government types bailed out, all that remained were the Puritans, fascists, and bigots who had been won over by the Southern strategy. Having realized this fact, the GOP politicos are now openly pandering to those segments (in other words, “doubl[ing] down on the crazy”), in the hope that there are still enough voters among them to win elections. I think they’re wrong, profoundly so, and I hope I’m right. But even if I am, their failure won’t be evident until it’s too late. They may not collapse as a party, but they won’t retake power for quite some time. Until then, enjoy your dominance. Who knows? Maybe the Dems will even pass a progressive agenda at some point. 😉
There has to be some logic that would have them vote Democratic for the two past elections, but then suddenly switch back for no apparent reason
My concern wouldn’t be that they “switch back”, so much as that they would stay home. I think a big chunk of Obama voters were people who said, “Holy Shit! There’s finally somebody to vote for, who actually thinks government can achieve something and who’s actually going to try to do worthwhile stuff while in office!” I’m sure I read somewhere that something like 9 million more people voted in the 2008 election than 2004, and 8 million of them voted for Obama. (Actually, I think I heard it from Troofie, so maybe it isn’t true.)
If, after being elected with a strong mandate, and strong majorities in both houses of Congress, the kinds of things people were expecting to happen don’t happen (CIA keeps torturing, lobbyists keep writing laws, large corporations keep buying legislators, and so on) I would expect those voters to just conclude that Obama is just another politician and stay home next time. At the same time, you know the disaffected conservatives, who dismissed McCain (and even Bush) as RINOs, are going to turn out in droves to drive the usurper from the throne…
Things could get ugly.
there’s no arguing with the brilliance of Brave Combo
No. No, there isn’t.
Sadlynauts unfamilar with BC really need to up their knowledge. When a band’s repertoire incudes “Sixteen Tons”, “People Are Strange”, “Skokiaan” and “Who Stole the Kishka?” and one listen makes it clear how and why all these songs belong together, you really do need to be giving that band more of your record-and-ticket-buying money.
I once saw Brave Combo play, and one of their guys played a two-clarinet solo on their polka version of “Purple Haze”.
Brilliant, really.
Wow. We’ve got the poor man’s Thomas Friedman with us. Say, what does the cost of house-brand Mountain Dew tell you about the future of the Euro?
Accordions definitely have their place…
Bohemian Polka
bagpipes, however, can SUCK IT.
But they are a natural for Rock & Roll. After all, in the time before electricty and electric guitars, if you wanted a loud obnoxious instrument that would be sure to bug your parents what better choice than the highland pipes?
“Pentagon to use cyborg flies to spy on people.”
http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/10/pentagon-to-use-brain-dead-cyborg.html
Hey Troofus… Troofus old buddy? Via your old friend Atrios;
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/poll-corzine-ahead-of-christie-by-42-33.php
Corzine 42%, Christie 33% in New Jersey…. how’s that Republican recovery coming along for you, fucknuts?
Good job we bookmarked your predictions, eh?