I need clarification, is it a rule about a silly hack or a silly rule about a hack or is it silly that a hack rules?

Conservatives commenters have a better understanding of this than I do, I don’t deny this. Indeed it is central to my point.

I have fantasies about seeing a thin, emaciated Cheney rooting in a dumpster for scraps while snow falls.

SadlyNobodies! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! That’s brilliant!

How dare anyone call Fred Thompson lazy! The nerve!

When he wakes up from his mid-afternoon nap, we should get his response!

That’s actually a pretty catchy tune. A real toe-tapper. Thanks!

With all his traffic, I understand why he looks down on us with such contempt.

We should start using Sadly Nobodies as our collective term. I think it has a ring to it that Sadly Nosians rather lacks.

How about “Sadly Noes”?

Beats the hell out of “LOLleftie”.
.

Oh, Psycheout, you do tease.

YAY!! KILLING JOKE!!!!

The WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIITTT!!!!

“I’m Doughbody”

Chorus:
I’m Doughbody, Doughbody
And Nobody’s Gonna Hold Me Down
No,No Nobody Nobody Nobody’s
Gonna Hold Me Down

I’m Doughbody(x4)

Please Move Move
Move Right Out Of My Life
Move It, Move It

Love, Love Me Baby
Love, Love Me Child
Cause Baby Baby
You’re Driving Me Wild

Heavy, Heavy
You Got So Heavy Baby
(Yeah)
Heavy Heavy

Chorus:
I’m Doughbody, Doughbody
And Nobody’s Gonna Hold Me Down
No,No Nobody Nobody Nobody’s
Gonna Hold Me Down

Wait, aren’t we upset that the guy at the Politico blatantly misrepresented Fred Thomspon by cutting off his quote mid-sentence? I’m confused. The left has hacks too….

I thought we called ourselves “Sadlynauts.”

The left has hacks too….

Yeah, like Goebbels.

SadlyNobodies! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! That’s brilliant!

Agreed. I’m also tickled that Gavin used the word “athwart” today. And correctly, to boot!

Please edit nobody’s to read nobodies in the above lyrics. crap.

No, I’m serious, don’t we agree that this is hackery? I mean, I like this site cause I’m a lefty and it does some good attacking of BS on the right, but I don’t see why the lefties should get a free pass. Sure, it’s nitpicking, but so are plenty of S,N articles.

I don’t have it in me to become concerned with the right hackerying themselves. I kind of like going all fascist on them and piling on.

I like to think of it as “Sadly Noses” I made a REALLY good photoshop of Morrisissy, but by the time I finished, 2 new columns had appeared. ;-{

I don’t see why the lefties should get a free pass.

The Politico is not a “leftist” outlet.

Updated the text, btw. I don’t want anyone to think I’m escaping the fact of being a moron.

I still like SadlyNosians.

Oh, my bad, I assumed they were lefties cause they were attacking Thompson. I should bother to inform myself sometimes. 🙁

“If I can have an honest-moment now, I look at thousands of words of right-wing spew daily, beginning in the morning when I first check my feeds, and ending when the last press-releases thwonk onto the pavement in the evening.”

Dude, we totally fucking appreciate it. Really.

But, of course, we try every day — and what’s the latest howler? Well, maybe this.

Dayum. I would have thought J-Dough spent all his weapons grade stupid on teh b00k (in the parlance of our times), but clearly he’s kept some hidden stockpiles – the P.J. o’Rourke quote was just icing on the cake:

“Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one,” O’Rourke concluded. “There is no such thing as Santa Claus.”

Um… I think I see a slight problem with your logic here.

Is there any sort of perl script or restraining order or something that could prevent Chunky from quoting H.L. Mencken?

Conversely, is there any way to force DoughBob to write a simple declarative sentence? These past few days have taught me how much I hate his passive and backhanded constructions.

Say what you mean, you whiny mumbly fuck.

This will end in oatmeal bowls bouncing athwart the kitchen floor, and tears.

Thanks. My chicken noodle soup is now athwart my keyboard and monitor. And me with a terrible cold.

Mumbly fuck is the new buggeryfuck…

mikey

Impressive: after seven years of praising and defending the least accountable administration since Caligula, the Doughster takes Hillary to task for not explaining how she’s going to pay for it all.

“And each one is in whopping bad faith”–Gavin has it right. It’s *all* propaganda to them, and the more piously they serve it up, the more soulless and mendacious it is.

Meanwhile, the idea that my old colleague PJ believes in “God” is to laff.

[Fixed the text, btw, with edits and all those things.

Mumbly fuck is the new buggeryfuck…

Now I want apple-crumblyfuck.

Sadlynaughts?

xxxx I look at thousands of words of right-wing spew daily, beginning in the morning when I first check my feeds, and ending when the last press-releases thwonk onto the pavement in the evening. There are hundreds of items every day. And it does all, literally, drive you batshit, if you try to follow the main currents honestly and plain-mindedly. xxxx

Is there an intellectual way of handling all these hazardous materials under a well ventilated hood, touching it through thick gloves?

On the other hand, one can really refute these idiots by numbers. E.g. our good friend Jonah is derelict of duty — why he did not call Hillary a fascist, as he was at it — (Jonah-specific chide number 1, Coulter should be chided for skipping an occasion to either call liberal a traitor, or to urge to bash her/his skull), and dumb argument number 14 — Dems bust budget without providing any totals and comparing — and number 12 — as if GOP ever troubled itself with choices (oil company tax breaks, high income tax breaks? abolish estate tax? a new war? continue a useless defense system? send truckloads of cash to be snatched by sand jinns?)

Wait — didn’t Gavin just say he was getting married? Is that like a meta-meta-(killing) joke about burying the “lede”?

if anyone is tallying such things in advance of the wedding that I’m cunningly announcing at this not-unforetokened moment (June 7th)

Holy Quadruped, did you just sneak that in in the edit? ’cause I sure missed it the first time. Congrat’s Gav!

Ah, FYW ftw.

The Sadly Nays? S.Naws? Sadly Nooooos?

SadlyNostrils.

Conservatives who support the war have no standing to complain about the cost of government programs. None.

…that I’m cunningly announcing…

Congratulations!

Congrat’s Gav!

Oh this is so exciting! Do you know yet if it’s a boy or a girl?

how much I hate his passive and backhanded constructions.

The sheer cowardice of J.Doughboy’s writing never fails to impress me [passive sentence construction for extra points]. Real scholars come out and make assertions, they back up their statements with facts. They don’t sent out phrases like “No-one denies…” and “Indubitably…” to do the dirty work for them.

I am so confused. Are you getting married? Are we all invited? At least to the reception? Whos the lucky…wait, where is this occurring?

I’m all for ‘Snoes!!11!‘

Then we could call our yearly convention a Snoes!!11!storm…

I’m sorry. Really, I am.

This will end in oatmeal bowls bouncing athwart the kitchen floor, and tears.

I love you guys. 😀

Until I read SN and TBogg I didn’t know such people (as these wingnuts you write about) even existed. I’m not sorry I know about them even if occasionally they make me feel capable of first degree homicide. I’d rather know than not know what’s lurking in the basements on the block is what I’m sayin’.

What I immensely appreciate is the humour you bring every day. Nothing can top it.

Oh yeah, and congrats on the upcoming nuptials. Is the bride (or groom-don’t want to assume) to be a regular commenter? Anyone we “know”???

You mean you still haven’t married that fine woman?

You’ve been taking far to great a risk for my tastes, young man.

If she gets away, it’ll be on your head!

Congratulations, Gavin (and give her my best too!)

mikey

Abortions all ’round!

congratulations!

Oh this is so exciting! Do you know yet if it’s a boy or a girl?

I was referring to the spouse, not the ‘oven’. I shouldn’t try to make sly jokes about these kind of things…

Best wishes.

Oh look a wedding. Yay.

I was referring to the spouse, not the ‘oven’.

Congratulations to the lucky turtle.

Congratulations, Gavin, and thanks for all you do.

Official congratulations, Gavin. As a gift, I will be presenting you with some skull and brain fragments left over from after I blow my head off as a result of having been made aware of MyRightWingDad.com.

Fred has the Wilford Brimley spokesperson persona down pretty good.

If we read this blog are we Sadly Naughts, Sadly Nobodies, or just fascists?

Congratulations, and best wishes to your betrothed.

Gav is sure being coy about the whole ‘Marriage Announcement’ issue.

betrothed

Aren’t they a German glam punk band?

How bitter and sarcastic do those of us who can’t legally tie the knot get to be about this? (and I’m not in a mood for any knot tying jokes. or wet suits).

Oh, Gavin, another of my little dreams dashed. (runs sobbing to the liquor cabinet.)

Kidding! Best wishes to you and your future spouse, and to the German glam band Betrothed.

Congrats, I guess..
Please god, let it be a gay-fascist wedding.

Aren’t they a German glam punk band?

Gavin never ceases to amaze, but I think that would still be illegal even here in Liberal Fascichusetts.

gbear, it’s certainly horribly unfair. Here I am, engaged three times and doing the runaway bride thing all three times – and yet I could get married tomorrow if I wanted to. It’s rotten, but hopefully things will change. Even here in little ol’ Des Moines, a judge ruled it was unconstitutional to deny this basic right of contract to gay citizens, which is obvious to any right-thinking human being. Times they are a changin’, even if we have to drag the times kicking and screaming to the change.

Gavin’s getting married on my birthday? Bit of a Homer bowling ball as gifts go but its the thought that counts.

You’re a 3x runaway bride? That is an impressive feat.

I never quite got to the altar, so it wasn’t so dramatic as, say, a Julia Roberts flick, but every damned time I’d get a ring on my finger, I’d start thinking guys other than my betrothed were really attractive, and that there was a whole great big world out there, and just what the hell did I think I was doing? and soon I would be ending that relationship and on with another. I was pretty messed up and unstable all during my twenties. Now, I’ve managed to be in a stable relationship for four years, a record for me, and although I don’t want to get married, I’m pretty content. Just took some growing up, I guess.

Back to the Doughy Pantload — I shouldn’t be surprised, but nonetheless … Jonah is dissing Hilary for saying these programs are “presents”, and yet no word about Rudy’s “Dear Santa” ad where basically he appears to be asking Santa to provide “peace through strength” and “safe borders.” What, Jonah thinks elves will replace the National Guard?

Fred and his hat remind me of Jed Clampett.

Well the first thing you know, ol’ Fred’s the President
Livin’ in a big White House don’t have to pay no rent
He said: “Nappin’ in the Rose Garden’s the place I oughta be”
And he headed out the back door with the tits of Jeri-Lee
Trophy wife, that is
Where the curtains don’t match the rug…

mikey

How bitter and sarcastic do those of us who can’t legally tie the knot get to be about this?

gbear, come on up to Canada. Gay marriage is legal and a booming industry, too. I recommend BC, for the weather.
http://www.samesexmarriage.ca/

Andy Cay, I’d eep kay iet quay about the unaway ray thing for an ile way. The ide bray to ebay may ead ray the ogblay and et gay otions nay.

Lesley. I’ll start looking for that special Canadian guy. Pretty much anyone outside of Thunder Bay or Winnipeg can recommend their weather over what’s going on here in MN right now. I have heard that BC is a beautiful area.

Gundamhead said,

I’m sticking with “Sadly, No!sians”, but I am a simple common tater, after all.

P.S. Congrats, Gavin!

Congrats Gavin! That has got to be the most subtle marriage announcement eva. (And thanks for the dose of Killing Joke).

Now will someone kindly explain to M. PolitBurro Diktat that Politico is only a lefty rag if the rag to the right is The Washington Times?

Sheesh.

Congrats, Gavin!

Will someone kindly explain to Arky F. that when someone refers to “Bob Owens taking on those Commies at Politico,” he is lampooning Owens’ view of the Politico, not categorizing it himself.

Sheesh.

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this, but Jonah Goldberg isn’t very smart.

Congratulations Gavin. Where’s the bachelor party? I’ve never been to one of those.

and I’m not in a mood for any knot tying jokes. or wet suits

Well, how about docking?

Mazel Tov Gavin! (See how well I’m taking to my new found identity?)

Cindy–

We you planning on getting married somewhere cool like the Salsbury House, Val-Air Ballroom or George the Chili King any of those 3 times?

*hangs head in shame*

Candy, not Cindy (See how good I am with names?)

I blame the biting cold and/or the cold vodka.

Sadly Nazis!

Congrats Gavin

Congratulations, Gavin! (assuming of course this isn’t a double-reverse shot of irony that we all missed)

How bitter and sarcastic do those of us who can’t legally tie the knot get to be about this? (and I’m not in a mood for any knot tying jokes. or wet suits).

GBear, I thought Gavin lived in Massachusetts? We’re so People’s Republic, we even let White Males marry here! No wonder Jonah is bitterly envious!

(assuming of course this isn’t a double-reverse shot of irony that we all missed)

Nono, she actually seems to want to marry someone-who-is-me, for reasons I understand but have trouble totally fathoming. Apparently there are lots of worse people out there.

YAY! It is a fact universally acknowledged that all married people wish other people to get married as well, and it’s not because misery loves company. Over the next months, I will await whatever further details you feel up to sharing with great interest.

I think “Sadly Nobodies” is pretty awesome.

You know what else is awesome? Marriage.

Congrats to Gavin and the bride-to-be!

For the record, Gavin’s good people. Were I not in this bad place, I’d surely be appropriately generous …

… right now though, him and all the rest of you fuckers plain and true.

SadlyNocracy.
My internet persona sends its congratulations to yours.

Gavin: Congrats on your wedding. A wed wose — how womantic!

Mikey: You said:
December 22, 2007 at 2:14

Well the first thing you know, ol’ Fred’s the President
Livin’ in a big White House don’t have to pay no rent
He said: “Nappin’ in the Rose Garden’s the place I oughta be”
And he headed out the back door with the tits of Jeri-Lee
Trophy wife, that is
Where the curtains don’t match the rug…

Mikey, I love you!

Gavin: congrats on your pending nuptuals…can I assume the attire for the blessed event will be black tie and jackboots?

Huh. Huh-huh-huh. Anne Laurie said “feel up.” huhhuhhuh.

Also: what Anne Laurie said about being married and stuff. True that.

This is the same point that Dr. Myers frequently makes when he talks about dealing with creationists. “Debating” them, as the word is commonly understood, is not even possible, because they are not interested in what the rest of us think of as standards of truth or falsity, they are interested in winning. And because they know, in the gnarled little mass of petrified pus that passes for a heart for them, that they are right, anything they do in order to secure that win is acceptable. As time has passed and things in this country have gone from bad to batshit howling insane, I don’t even think of it anymore as “lying for Jesus”. It’s more like “eating a live infant and masturbating into its still-warm skull right in front of its mother, all the while claiming you didn’t do that for Jesus”.

The problem is that in just thirty seconds of speech or two paragraphs of writing, a person like the types that get mocked around here can throw out so many falsehoods and distortions of the truth that it would take hours or pages of writing to set them all straight. And while you are trying to do that, they’ll just go off on another tangent and have done the same thing in another, related topic, leaving you to deal with the detritus of the new topic when you still haven’t finished with the old topic. If you really want to see a master of this technique at work, watch any one of these Kent Hovind debate videos at Youtube.

Creationists have a slew of pseudo-arguments, all based on a misunderstanding of most maths and sciences, and correcting even one of their errors takes time. For example, they’ll make the claim that there are twenty different amino acids occurring naturally in the proteins that make up life, and the chances of those amino acids having come together to make these proteins is beyond probability. To fix what’s wrong with this, you have to know enough chemistry to explain that not all amino acids bond in the same way, and enough math to explain the difference between selection with replacement and selection without replacement – the evolutionary process is not “random”.

Even if you DO have the requisite background knowledge to explain these things to these people, you have to remember that you are explaining them to people who don’t want to hear your explanation, and are already convinced that everything you say is wrong because you are godless and evil. Ever try to teach probability and statistics to someone with no real background in math and who doesn’t really want to listen to anything you have to say – all in under five minutes? I have, and the results aren’t particularly impressive.

This is really why I think the patented Sadlymethod® for dealing with these folks is preferable to anything else. You respond to honest arguments with honest rebuttals. Tools like we see around here are only worth laughing at, because at a fundamental level, they are not arguing in good faith. All they care about is winning. They are the juicepigs in the game of ideas. And when you agree to play the game of honest debate with them, you lend an air of respectability to their hot air that they do not deserve.

There certainly ARE people with more conservative views than what you normally see expressed here that are worth debating with seriously – but let’s be honest: their arguments are not the ones you find in heavy rotation on Fox News.

And I want to add my congratulations on the weddingness stuff. You guys are so full of awesome that your wedding will be a little awesome-fusion power plant, spewing awesomeness out into the local environment for years to come. Mazel tov!

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My earlier comment makes more sense when you insert the verb I meant to put there.

My earlier comment makes more sense when you insert the verb I meant to put there.

“rock?”

Hope your kitty’s OK.

Barf. Reading the exchanges with Patterico over at SEK’s site is exhausting. How do you do it, everyday? It’s as if you’re compelled to huff open manholes and sculpt nutty restaurant reviews from the foul wash. Who could blame you for losing your mind? Congrats on getting hitched, though! Perhaps the soon-to-be Mrs. Gavin can help stitch your poor soul back together.

Late to the party as usual, but congratulations to Gavin and his partner!

all married people wish other people to get married as well, and it’s not because misery loves company.

I may take the second half of that statement with a grain of salt. 😉