Hm

DeLong:

Fareed Zakaria says that Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani and company are cynically trying to outdo each other in stupidity–that they know that they are sacrificing the national security in the hopes of improving their chances of becoming president.


This is spot on to an extent- it seems that to win the Republican nomination, candidates are simply trying to out-crazy and out-stupid each other in order to appeal to people like Ace. The question is, will this strategy work again in a general election, as it did in 2004? Because if it does, well, we’re a deeply stupid and crazy nation.

 

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“we’re a deeply stupid and crazy nation”

Yet another example of American exceptionalism.

 
 

I think this Presidential election cycle the Republicans will be content to choose thier next Messiah so they’re really not interested in whether or not he gets elected.

 
 

The tweeties and finemans of the msm haven’t changed a bit since 2004. Or 2000, for that matter. So we’ve still got that working against sanity.

 
 

This is spot on to an extent- it seems that to win the Republican nomination, candidates are simply trying to out-crazy and out-stupid each other in order to appeal to people like Ace.

Appealling to Ace is easy. You just have to have private bits that look like sausage rather than bacon (and Play-doh.) Once that’s covered, all you have left to appeal to the deep thinkers of the right is teh crazy and a sincere philosophical opposition to the draft.

 
 

Appealling to Ace is easy. You just have to have private bits that look like sausage rather than bacon (and Play-doh.) Once that’s covered, all you have left to appeal to the deep thinkers of the right is teh crazy and a sincere philosophical opposition to the draft.

I wondered how long it was going to be before someone made fun of Ace’s latent homosexuality.

Not that I disapprove or anything. Au contraire. Accusing wingnuts of being gay is a favorite pastime of mine.

*smirks* I need a life, don’t I?

 
 

There is a central problem in the question.

Just because the Republican candidates dance up and down and jingle shiny things in front of the primary voters doesn’t mean they’re also not willing to pretend in the general election that none of the preceding happened, that they have always been a uniter, that they have always been for moderation, etc., etc., along with enough winks & nods to prompt the Tru-Krazees to believe (realistically) that ‘he’s still on our side’.

 
 

“we’re a deeply stupid and crazy nation.”

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

 
 

Ace is the Jerry Lewis of the Internets: all these Righties think he’s just so smart and so freakin’ high-larious, and everyone else is scratching their heads in puzzlement. I intercept notes in seventh-grade history class that are funnier and more interesting than Ace.

 
 

I think of Ace as less Jerry Lewis and more Tom Green. With fewer balls.

 
 

“we’re a deeply stupid and crazy nation�

Yet another example of American exceptionalism.

Now now, no one ever said that other countries weren’t just as deeply supid and crazy as we are.

 
Smiling Mortician
 

For the record, I do not — repeat, do not — recommend reading Mike Adams before having a good strong cup of coffee. Or after having breakfast of any kind. Or, really, pretty much any time.

 
 

Can there be any doubt at this point?

 
 

You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, and apparently you can fool 51% of the people just long enough to get a second term–but beyond that, I wouldn’t count on it . . .

 
 

30% of Americans actually have altars in their house dedicated to George W. Bush, at which they worship daily. Another 10% had Bush altars, but they’ve decided Bush isn’t “The One”, so now they’re just waiting to be told by the VRWNM who “The One” really is, so they can set up his icon for worship.

That’s 40% of Americans who absolutely will pull the “R” lever, no matter what. Throw in a few percent for voter suppression/fraud, and add in the media’s tendency to portray the R as heroic and righteous and the D as a sniveling coward, and the next election is looking scary.

I’ll be really worried if the authoritarian followers find an actor on whom to project their desires to be led. An actor might act the part of president well enough to fool a few more per centage points into voting R.

Oops. Well, here’s a campaign slogan for Fred, one that should resonate well with the base: One People! One Nation! One Leader!

 
 

A couple of bits of anecdotal good news:

A friend on an Elderhostel trip recently took an informal poll. Of the Republicans (about half of the total group), half said they won’t vote for a R in 08 no matter who it is. Some will no doubt change their minds, but I suspect some of ’em mean it. Especially if they nominate somebody who promises more of the same.

At a HS graduation party, the grad’s grandad, a diehard R blowhard, who voted for Bush twice and supported the war, was holding forth about what a clusterfuck it all is, how horrible Bush/Cheney are, hates ALL the candidates, HATES Guiiliani (this guy is from the NYC area, has a son who was an NYC cop), called him SLIMEY and CROOKED.

They’re waking up.

Although not my dad. He’s one of those with the altar. Literally.

 
 

I think of Ace as less Jerry Lewis and more Tom Green. With fewer balls.

Well, there are plenty of Americans who would prefer every election to be a season of JACKASS — a team of white dudes challenging each other to attack their own genitals with a staple gun. Not least among these resentful souls are the “opinion leaders” like Chris Matthews and Tim Russert, who’d rather discuss whether Gore’s had plastic surgery and if Bill is still cheating on Hillary than have to do the hard work of getting informed about the real problems we’re confronting and what solutions each candidate proposes. From present evidence, the Repub candidates are perfectly happy competing on the Jackass Demographic Ticket… hand Willard Romney a staple gun and he’ll stuff it down his temple garment, no problem. Rudy will try using the staple gun to beat McCain about the head and shoulders, Ron Paul will point out that the staple gun was manufactured in China, and Brownback will promise that he’ll use *his* staple gun to keep women from getting abortions or teachers from talking about evolution.

The Democratic candidates have made a laudable effort to stay away from staple-gun dares, which is yet another “proof”, in Pundit World terms, that the Dems just don’t know how to appeal to the American voter. Or that they’re just too girly to see the point in deliberate self-mutilation. Debating serious issues seriously — what fun is that to talk about, if you’re a professional media whore?

 
 

The late Robert Anton Wilson summed up “Teh Stupid & Teh Crazy” best:

The philosopher Carlin’s three major types of public nuisances — the stupid, the crazy and those just plain full of shit — have changed proportions in my mind as I grow older. I used to attribute almost everything awful to stupidity and looniness, but now I more and more suspect the major problem is that so many people are full of shit. In fact, every time I see a man on TV wearing a suit and tie, I suspect he is full of shit, and if he has a flag hanging beside him I am almost sure of it.

 
 

I think they are slowly waking up to the Rudy McRomney fraud, and if said fraud manages to win the Primary, the wingers will stay home in droves in ’08 with the idea that once the Dems control the Congress and the White House, a true winger savior will descend from the Heavens and present himself for victory in 2012.

However, if a TRUE phony like Fred Thompson manages to get through the Primary (which I don’t think he will), the wingers will wet themselves with delight at the idea of having another authority figure to worship endlessly – a good Jebus-fearing man who harbors an appropriate amount of Christian love for wealthy, white, male capitalists, and an equally appropriate amount of hate for the poor, minorities, gays, women, and especially teh Islamocommienazifascisthippies.

That’s all they really want; just don’t put the camps in their backyards and they’re good with whatever St. Fred deems necessary.

 
Phil Moskowitz, Lovable Rogue.
 

“resentful souls are the “opinion leadersâ€? like Chris Matthews and Tim Russert”

In a just world these two would be chasing down an interview with a blind baton twirler in Texas rather than re-ilving their homeroom humiliations on national tv.

 
 

Whether they have ever had or performed an abortion themselves, all feminists today are voluntarily involved in a movement whose principal issue/goal is abortion on demand. And this meeting of the minds renders the term “baby killer� equal applicable to both the committed and casual feminist alike.

Hey, I think Mike S. Adams just called me a “baby killer.” I better fix that…

“Whether they have ever served in Iraq themselves, all wingnuts today are voluntarily involved in a movement whose principal issue/goal is killing brown people. And this meeting of the minds renders the term “murderous racist” equal applicable to both the committed and casual wingnut alike.

Much better.

 
 

will this strategy work again in a general election, as it did in 2004? Because if it does, well, we’re a deeply stupid and crazy nation.

yes. although this is almost exactly what I was thinking in 2003.

 
a different brad
 

Speaking of ace, did you see his ode to the lost porno star?
Jillian’s warnings aside, I think my theory that overexposure to porn produced the bacon n playdoh line holds water.

 
 

The problem is the Democrats aren’t framing Republican policy as crazy and stupid. They’re framing it as failed.

If the Democrats don’t tell the people that the republic is being sold down the river, who will? The media whores? lol

 
 

Why would they appeal to the Aces when the polls show Bush at an all time low and the mid-terms gave his party the heave ho?

Isn’t it more likely they’re appealing to the Aces because this is who they are, what they believe. Ghouliani is the same old meathead he’s always been.

 
 

“we’re a deeply stupid and crazy nation�

What gave it away?

 
 

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