Won’t Get Fooled Again
Corrections Staff, The New York Times:
Corrections, October 16, 2010An article last Sunday about Pamela Geller, a blogger who attacks Islam, misidentified the location of a beach from which she video-blogged about her visit to Israel during the Israel-Hezbollah war in 2006. She was in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., at the time of her reports, not at a beach in Israel.
An article last Sunday about Palm Beach, Fla. native Robert Van Winkle, a.k.a. rapper Vanilla Ice, misidentified a mark on his right cheek as a “dueling scar.” The wound was accidentally self-inflicted while cutting a bagel.
The article also overstated the number of monthly unique visitors to Ms. Geller’s Web site, Atlas Shrugs. The site attracts 194,000 such visitors, according to Quantcast statistics — not one million. (The Nielsen Company estimated 184,000 in September.)
The article overstated the number of unique purchasers of Mr. Ice’s 1989 debut album, Hooked, later reissued under the title, To The Extreme, which peaked at Number One on the Billboard 200, a weekly ranking of popular albums tabulated by Billboard magazine. The album sold 11 million copies, not “100 ker-shmillion, godzillion-plus-infinity times ninety-nine with a hundred-billion zeroes after it” copies, as the article claimed, while few if any of its purchasers were unique.
And because of an editing error, the article misspelled the surname of the lead singer of the Who whom Ms. Geller was likened to for being the “front man” in the attack on Islam. He is Roger Daltrey, not Daltry.
Because of an editing error, the palindrome, “A man, a map, Lacan — Pamela,” was misspelled as, “MILF Pam in a fap film.”
* Cf. Lacan, cf. ‘onomatopaenis.’
** Ever notice how the intros to “Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “Baba O’Riley” are ripoffs of Terry Riley’s “In C”?
The Who — “Won’t get Fooled Again” (9:13)
The Who — “Baba O’Riley” (5:19)
Terry Riley — “In C” (9:36)
An article last Sunday misidentified Pamela Geller as a blogger. She is actually a grotesque, drunken shit-head.
The implication in our story of last Sunday that Ms. Geller was actually a human being was wrong, wrong, wrong, & we most certainly regret it.
It is still correct however that Ms. Pammycakes can be used as a flotation device in the event of a water landing.
The article also overstated the number of monthly unique visitors to Ms. Geller’s Web site, Atlas Shrugs. The site attracts 194,000 such visitors, according to Quantcast statistics — not one million.
Between this and the Teabagger scooter-ride-on-Washington with one hundred meeelion in attendance, I’m beginning to think that Megan McArdle’s calculator gets passed around Conservaland more than a nubile young rentboy.
Homosexuals are a bunch of godless deviants who should be shot.
It’s kind of a stretch to call using one chord arpeggio a rip-off.
And due to an editing error, it should be noted that Mr. Stamp did not play a deity in the 1980 superhero film.
* Ever notice how the intros to “Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “Baba O’Riley” are both ripoffs of Terry Riley’s “In C”?
Who cares? (Who – get it?)
Roger Daltrey was TEH HOTT back in the day. I went to see the Who twice circa 1980 just to ogle his buttocks in tight slacks.
bevis simpson
* Ever notice how the intros to “Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “Baba O’Riley” are both ripoffs of Terry Riley’s “In C”?
Who cares? (Who – get it?)
Roger Daltrey was TEH HOTT back in the day. I went to see them twice circa 1980 just to ogle his buttocks in tight slacks. Those boys put on a helluva show.
Ok, fuck you wordpress, you fucking bitch.
We are still investigating the claim that Christine O’Donnell has inked a five-year deal with ifeelmyself dotcom.
Hitler was right for killing all of the queers in concentration camps. America should do the same.
Derek should DIAF.
It is my hope and prayer that America’s youth wakes up and their are Matthew Sheppard incidents times 1000 in this country.
C’mon troll-you can do better than that.
Even in what should be a completely casual photo, the one above, Pamela still manages to look totally batshit crazy. She’s got that poor woman firmly in her clutches so she can’t escape and she looks like she’s going to gnaw off her ear.
I’d love to see her in a movie, Saw VIII, the Geller Thing.
It’s too bad that the Times didn’t also regret giving the crazy xenophobe the page space.
Beyond that, is it unreasonable of me to think, whenever I read her name, that involuntary commitment is under-utilized today?
Instead of condemning the heroic youth who beat up queers and transgendered faggots in Our Nation’s schools, this nation should praise them as the frontline of traditional America’s war against sexual deviancy.
Derek, just come out already. We know that you love the cock.
I’d love to see her in a movie, Saw VIII, the Geller Thing.
I think The Ring 3 might be a better fit. 7 days after you read the article, she crawls out of the newspaper and…well, I don’t know actually. Froths for a little bit about how you’re supporting the terr’rists and then crawls back in?
Fuckin’ paper of record… how does it work?
7 days after you read the article, she crawls out of the newspaper and…well, I don’t know actually. Froths for a little bit about how you’re supporting the terr’rists and then crawls back in?
She gives you a bad boob job and cooks you to an orange-brown with a tanning bed.
Why do all these Heroic Youth keep sucking my cock?
Well that would scare the crap out of me. The Ring was the only recent horror movie that really creeped me out. And visually it was very well done.
Good to see that their are some sane voices on this blog. The homosexual agenda is like the black plague of the 21st century. It is a cancer that destroys the moral fabric of a society.
I was a bully when I was in school. I enjoyed beating up on the weak and the effeminate. This should continue if perhaps the daily beatings will cause these queers to toughen up and become men instead of effeminate queers.
Although “Let Me In” was pretty good too. But I’m not really sure it was a horror story, more like an old fashion romance about a 12 year old boy and his vampire girlfriend. Kind of touching even.
Gee, I’m really wasted. I think my pants are gonna fall down and I’m gonna pass out bent over this table and then wake up tomorrow unable to remember a thing. Woah…faggots…
You need to contact the Sunni Awakening Councils.
“I was a bully when I was in school. I enjoyed beating up on the weak and the effeminate.”
Sure but you were wearing you mother’s panties at the time too. I hope you washed them before you put them back. You did, didn’t you?
Yay! Gavin is alive!
Seriously, these kids are just asking to get beat up. If they weren’t then why would they so willingly out themselves?
These faggots are stupid for not keeping this shit to themselves. They deserve whatever they get. America is still a deeply traditional society. These fags have to be shown that they are not welcome in the American mainstream. They are to either go back into the closet or face the consequences.
Seriously, these kids are just asking to get beat up. If they weren’t then why would they so willingly out themselves?
Y’know, the same could be said of assholes….
14 year old tough guy troll is tiresome, plonk!
Wow, there’s Derek passed out drunk with his taut naked ass hanging out. Hmm. Nobody else around…what the hell, he deserves a good ass-fucking…
Troll slashfic.
Just because I enjoy having sex with guys doesn’t make me gay. I only like manly macho guys not those limp wristed fags. Bookmark that libs.
Troll slashfic.
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Derk must be a Marine. They’re all bottoms: assume the position! You just can’t kiss ’em cuz that’s gay.
Minister of War couldn’t forget the taste of Derek’s asshole. So much better than my own, he thought dreamily.
Personally I feel that a Gavin M. post deserves a warmer welcome than some stupider-than-usual troll fuckknuckery.
Terry Riley — “In C” (9:36)
This must be one of the shorter performances. In my day we only had 2-hour performances of “In C” AND WE LIKED IT. None of this ultra-fast speed-metal.
The “similarities” between the intros to “Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “Baba O’Riley” are that both are comprised of distinct musical notes, and both are played by the same rock band; their combined similarity to Terry Riley’s “In C” is that they are all played in frequencies audible to humans.
So I get your point.
**I must point out that Pete Townshend has always credited Terry Riley………..
what’s the name of that “Teenage Wasteland” song again?
The fact is that while the left is busy focusing on trivial matters, the Republican Party is primed to win 100 seats in the US House.
It’s the Obama Economy, Stupid. And people know that the best way to get the economy going is to kick the Obamarxist Communist Democrat Party out of power.
So keep focusing on Christine O’Donnell (your next Junior Senator from Delaware) and Pamela Geller. We’ll be focusing on removing Obama/Biden for violating our constitution and never being eligible anyways.
OT- Badoodly-oodly, loony libs, the Imagine Science Film Festival has an event in Brooklyn tonight. Beer and sheer geekaliciousness. Sorry I couldn’t put in a plug earlier, but it’s been a hell of a work week (hence the 4AM post time).
So keep focusing on Christine O’Donnell
Every time I pull it, Gary… every time I pull it.
violating our constitution
Needs moar talk of “massive package” and “thrusting down the public’s throat”.
Jesus, weak sauce from the trolls. No, not sauce, rice water.
Jesus, weak sauce from the trolls. No, not sauce, rice water.
Oh double bing-bang hell, you’ve just ruined horchata for me!
Also, too…
Eminence Front
I just though of this when I saw the trolling.
We at the New York Times will proudly continue our highly respected fact-checking methodology in which we print the stuff that right wingers tell us.
For example, we felt it was proper to print that over 400 million people attended the recent Glenn Beck-led rally in Washington, DC, though later sources corrected that figure to several tens of thousands.
It’s the Obama Economy, Stupid. And people know that the best way to get the economy going is to kick the Obamarxist Communist Democrat Party out of power.
1) Win the election.
2) ??????????????
3) PROFIT!!!
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/christianity-first-line-of-defense-for-the-west/?singlepage=true
Still on the fascism front, yet another brave atheist proudly associates with and demands more fundamentalist Christianity as a barrier to Islam. (On the same site, Roger Simon releases a rant blessing Angela Merkel for finally realizing that Muslims are savages). Sorry, but these guys sicken me even more than the fundies do.
Worry not. PJM, after all, is full of “neocons” who are “lefties” and not real conservatives, therefore we can surely expect the parody trolls to take arms against them.
What El Cid said — their “reporter” got handed a pile of bullshit from Gellar and printed it all without bothering to check it.
“Check facts? LOL. That shit’s for bloggers, not us stenographers. Where’s my Koch check?”
Another image of Pam that didn’t make the paper.
An article last Sunday about Pamela Geller, a blogger who attacks Islam, misidentified the location of a beach from which she video-blogged about her visit to Israel during the Israel-Hezbollah war in 2006. She was in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., at the time of her reports, not at a beach in Israel.
And don’t forget the Republicans are going to sweep the mid-terms.
Frickin’ NYT.
They must look at the Washington Poop and say to themselves “Ha! You call that soiling your reputation? Watch this drive!”
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An article last Sunday about Pamela Geller, a blogger who attacks Islam, misidentified the location of a beach from which she video-blogged about her visit to Israel during the Israel-Hezbollah war in 2006. She was in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., at the time of her reports, not at a beach in Israel.
She meant to say that she was reporting from Lankry’s Kosher Gormet Deli in Fort Lauderdale. They have some great Kosher deli’s in South Florida.
An article last Sunday about Pamela Geller, a blogger who attacks Islam, misidentified the location of a beach from which she video-blogged about her visit to Israel during the Israel-Hezbollah war in 2006. She was in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., at the time of her reports, not at a beach in Israel.
Additionally, the video has been altered. The original can be found here.
“An article several weeks ago identified Sean Hannity as a four star general who led several campaigns in the European theater in World War II. Hannity has actually never served in the military, and has a radio show.”
Coincidentally, on my blog today I was bemoaning the lack of fact checking in what passes for journalism…in blogging! The Times, I expect better from.
Part of me thinks there’s a whitewash going on here, that in order to keep Pamm Atlass from whinging about the mean ol’ Times discounting and discrediting her, they wrote the original story as she dictated it, then figured to enter corrections later.
hey, the record is corrected, right? Doesn’t matter that ten thousand people read the story and somehow now give her more credence for her opinions because 900,000 more people each day “read her” than actually do, so long as the paper can put down that “we corrected the record”.
After she’s bamboozled and ripped off another couple dozen hundred or so. Because no one reads the corrections…
An article last sunday incorrectly identifed Pam Gellar as a “blogger”. What we meant to write was “booger”.
I’d love to see her in a movie, Saw VIII, the Geller Thing.
What was that movie with Pinhead, again?
Cuz I can’t look at her without saying “Pinhead”.
The Times regrets the comparison of Ms. Geller to Mr. Dautrey. She is more like Sammy Hagar.
The Times regrets the comparison of Ms. Geller to Mr. Dautrey. She is more like
Sammy HagarTed Nugent.Fixxed!
The Times regrets the comparison of Ms. Geller to Mr. Dautrey. She is more like
Sammy HagarTed NugentCharles MansonFixeder
I see no reason to worry that the mass chain of securitization and tranching of mortgages may have more chaotic effects. This analysis from the Scott’s Investments blog, via the GOS.
I’m sure no one would mind us investing several dozen trillion dollars in new bailout spending.
Also, you don’t turn queer kids straight by beating them up. You turn them into queer masochists. Right, Derek?
To repeat: if the chain of title of the note is broken, then the borrower no longer owes any money on the loan…
Yea. Not so much. You’d still owe the original signer and there’s probably a side document athenticating the chain of title.
This arose from both court cases and attorney generals’ investigations in which those side documents apparently couldn’t be produced, and many stages in the process appear to have been involved in outright fraud.
This isn’t just people loosely speculating.
There’s a reason all big banks have voluntarily frozen their foreclosure sides.
So I had this idea for a parody troll who would repost vile antisemitic propaganda from the Nazis et al but with “Jew” replaced with “Muslim”. I have realized, though, that this has been done in great quantity already. Still, I could use this to get on TV and sue for tenure.
There’s a reason all big banks have voluntarily frozen their foreclosure sides.
I’m not doubting the reason that happened (indeed, Obama insisted they not freeze them last week). I’m betting those documents exist but if they were revealed, there’d be a bigger uproar.
This will likely get covered up.
Still, I could use this to get on TV and sue for tenure.
You could even get a sitcom deal: “$#!T My Nutbag Says”
“MILF Pam in a fap film.”
Eeeuuuwww. I think my position of mothers has been well documented (ask yours about the videos) but Pam Gellar? No thank you.
I think my position of mothers has been well documented (ask yours about the videos) but Pam Gellar? No thank you.
Right. And those DVDs of “Pam Gellar, She-Wolf of the IDF” you keep hawking?
And those DVDs of “Pam Gellar, She-Wolf of the IDF” you keep hawking?
As if. I wouldn’t watch Pam Gellar pr0n with your eyes.
Remember the old days, when the trolls, real and parody, would at least try to put up comments that had something to do with the original topic of the post?
*nostalgic sigh*
She swings both ways – Nazi AND Jew.
I don’t say this too often butI think actor’s right. It would take a very friendly court to void a mortgage based on a break in the string of title. (Not that very friendly courts don’t exist.) There are almost always attachments, especially to securitized instruments that make the obligation to pay pretty solid.Leftists will hate a Superman movie in which Superman defeats a bad guy who wants to take over the world.
I wouldn’t watch Pam Gellar pr0n with your eyes.
I have photos…
Leftists will hate a Superman movie in which Superman defeats a bad guy who wants to take over the world.
Who is Leigh Scott and why does he make me want to reach thru my LCD and throttle him?
That “plot” he proposes at the end of the column….does he realize what an enormous mess it is?
However, it’s not radical for a court to say “no you don’t owe this party.” I dunno if it’s the court’s business to track down who owes what outside claims between those represented in a legal action. That’d be throwing a payment scheme into limbo, if not actually voiding a mortgage.
However, it’s not radical for a court to say “no you don’t owe this party.”
True, which is why the court would likely unravel the title to the entity closest to the borrower, and let the banks and brokers sort their problems out on their own time.
He has unfairly used my own words against me!
Fucking newspapers, how do they work?
Islamoterrorist goat. Mickey Kaus is on the case!
Leftists will hate a Superman movie in which Superman defeats a bad guy who wants to take over the world.
Oh yeah, because those Superman movies where all he did was lift stuff or went up against the evil Richard Pryor were the gold standard. Maybe it’s because Zack Synder isn’t known for being a story-teller, and what’s been lacking in Superman flicks is a good story (though I wouldn’t knock a fight with Brainiac)?
Funny; when ROTS (Yoda and Obi fight a bad guy who wants the take over the GALAXY) came out, conservatives poo-pooed it as a Bush-bashing film.
War, capitalism, prostitutuion, corporatocracy…and that’s just the chimpanzees! Wait til you read about the fish!
Leftists will hate a Superman movie in which Superman defeats a bad guy who wants to take over the world.
Normally, I find it hysterical when Republicans try to appropriate superheroes that were intentionally written as hardcore liberals (Captain America being the other big one).
This one wants Superman to work with Lex Luthor? He is a Republican!!!
This one wants Superman to work with Lex Luthor? He is a Republican!!!
Someone needs to bookmark that column, and when the movie comes out and Luthor stabs Supes in the back, like any good conservative, point out that this jackass posited the idea of an alliance in the first place.
Or didn’t he watch Superman 2?
7 days after you read the article, she crawls out of the newspaper and…well, I don’t know actually. Froths for a little bit about how you’re supporting the terr’rists and then crawls back in?
Drinks all your alcohol.
I wonder if they’ve apologized to the military families who have had a loved one killed in the Iraq war the paper cheerled, despite the evidence being such blindingly-obvious bullshit that a retarded schnauzer* could’ve seen it was such.
(* Trig, I’m not making fun of, etc.)
This one wants Superman to work with Lex Luthor? He is a Republican!!!
You don’t say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hobP_7pPV4s
Also, too: It’s interesting that the quality of trolls that show up here is in inverse proportion to the quality of the regulars. There’s just so much EPIC FAIL, followed up so much win.
So dance, badgers! DANCE!!
That is all …
Also, and forgive the comic book nerd moment, but if the idea of working with Luthor is to know how to defeat a Kryptonian… didn’t Superman give Batman a piece of Kryptonite to be used in the event that he ever turned evil?
So they don’t need Luthor, Bruce Wayne will do fine. Of course, Bruce Wayne isn’t a power-hungry crook and thus unsuitable to represent the conservative viewpoint in a Superman movie.
I’m not going to go read shit on Breitbart. Is the summary basically “Superman needs to work with Lex Luthor because Luthor’s a businessman, and businessmen are TEH AWSUM”?
If I recall coorectly, there’s been plenty of times Supes & Luthor have worked together. And Luthor nailed him in the back every time.
I assume the idea that he wouldn’t is because he’s a rich guy and obviously not a villain blart blart flooey.
didn’t Superman give Batman a piece of Kryptonite to be used in the event that he ever turned evil?
Depends on which storyline/Elseworlds/cartoon/whatever you’re referring to. In most continuities, Lex used kryptonite to kill/brainwash Supes, Batman stepped in to stop him, and Supes let Bats keep the rock.
Bruce Wayne isn’t a power-hungry crook and thus unsuitable to represent the conservative viewpoint in a Superman movie.
Well, there was a broken storyline about Wayne using one of his aliases to take over the criminal underworld so he’d always knew what was going down. But one of his sidekicks fucked things up. Nevertheless, he’s not the rich super-jerk Tony Stark is (one pretends to be an ass, the other really is an ass).
“Also, and forgive the comic book nerd moment, but if the idea of working with Luthor is to know how to defeat a Kryptonian… didn’t Superman give Batman a piece of Kryptonite to be used in the event that he ever turned evil?
So they don’t need Luthor, Bruce Wayne will do fine. Of course, Bruce Wayne isn’t a power-hungry crook and thus unsuitable to represent the conservative viewpoint in a Superman movie.”
Comic Book Guy voice on
There has yet to be a live action film with both Superman and Batman in it.
Comic Book Guy voice off
And Luthor nailed him in the back every time.
Bow chikka wow wow wow.
Bruce Wayne isn’t a power-hungry crook and thus unsuitable to represent the conservative viewpoint in a Superman movie.
I always thought of the Batman as being a pretty typical conservative icon. Tough on crime, doesn’t really believe in rehabilitation, even making fun of those who ascribe to it. Plus, in this latest incarnation, Bruce Wayne is a defense contractor (which is how he gets those marvelous toys) and a really tough corporate shark.
He sounds pretty much like your typical Republican…except of course that he puts his own ass on the line.
I’m not going to go read shit on Breitbart. Is the summary basically “Superman needs to work with Lex Luthor because Luthor’s a businessman, and businessmen are TEH AWSUM”?
I just skimmed it, but as far as I can tell no justification. I think he just thinks it’d be awesome because something.
Depends on which storyline/Elseworlds/cartoon/whatever you’re referring to. In most continuities, Lex used kryptonite to kill/brainwash Supes, Batman stepped in to stop him, and Supes let Bats keep the rock.
Yeah, that’s what I thought. But I guess it doesn’t count in the movieverse since
There has yet to be a live action film with both Superman and Batman in it.
Shame, too.
There has yet to be a live action film with both Superman and Batman in it.
Shame, too.
Warner actually had a working script at one point in 2002.
I almost want to register over at Big Hollywood just to point out to them that Superman is a non-Christian illegal immigrant with forged documentation living under a false name. He’s dated several wholesome, white American girls and married one of them. He took advantage of our free public school system and took a job at a newspaper that could’ve gone to a “real America.” Also, his greatest enemy is a rich, evil capitalist who blames all of his problems — from his own evil ways down to his hair loss — on the peace-loving, hard-working immigrant, Superman. I’m not sure they’ve ever looked at Kal-El that way before.
I always thought of the Batman as being a pretty typical conservative icon. Tough on crime, doesn’t really believe in rehabilitation, even making fun of those who ascribe to it. Plus, in this latest incarnation, Bruce Wayne is a defense contractor (which is how he gets those marvelous toys) and a really tough corporate shark.
He sounds pretty much like your typical Republican…except of course that he puts his own ass on the line.
Well, that and he doesn’t care for guns.
There has yet to be a live action film with both Superman and Batman in it.
I suppose waiting for a film version of either “Dark Knight Returns” or “Superman: Red Son” would be too much to expect.
Where’s the Goddamn Batman to give us his take on all this?
I almost want to register over at Big Hollywood just to point out to them that Superman is a non-Christian illegal immigrant with forged documentation living under a false name.
Psst. He’s Methodist.
No. Really.
Well, that and he doesn’t care for guns.
Most tough-on-crime advocates don’t, yet it doesn’t stop Rudy Giuliani from being embraced.
I suppose waiting for a film version of either “Dark Knight Returns” or “Superman: Red Son” would be too much to expect.
A “Superman: Red Son” film adaptation would cause too many wingnut heads to explode.
I almost want to register over at Big Hollywood just to point out to them that Superman is a non-Christian illegal immigrant with forged documentation living under a false name.
Written by two Jews who intentially wrote him that way as an allegory for the immigrants who’d come to America, adopted it and loved it as their new homeland.
Similarly, Captain America’s an Irish city boy from Lower Manhattan. The undercurrent of “we’re American too” was pretty strong for both of them.
Similarly, Captain America’s an Irish city boy from Lower Manhattan.
Who was rejected by the army because he was sick.
didn’t Superman give Batman a piece of Kryptonite to be used in the event that he ever turned evil?
I vaguely remember him giving the U.S government (or was it the United Nations?) kryponite-tipped bullets, or missiles, or something, to be used on him for that purpose.
Where’s the Goddamn Batman to give us his take on all this?
I’ve been waiting for that myself…
Leftists will hate a Superman movie in which Superman defeats a bad guy who wants to take over the world.
That’s just…I mean, I…WHAT?
Okay, serious question: How are we losing to these people? That article is an argument between the writer and the voices in his own head. It is an epic triumph of Breitbart Man over the evil forces of Straw Man and his sidekick Delusion Boy. There is no diffeomorphism that can map that article onto the reality in which we live.
HOW ARE WE LOSING TO THESE PEOPLE??????
HOW ARE WE LOSING TO THESE PEOPLE??????
You can fool some of the people all of the time…
Warner actually had a working script at one point in 2002.
And they had a teaser poster/easter egg in the Will Smith version of “I am Legend.” But it won’t ever happen. Nolan has gone on record that he believes that the two live in different (cinematic) worlds.
Meanwhile: Marvel’s rolling right along with their Avengers movie.
Guys: Power Line has proven that Republicans are gonna win big this year! You know how? All the “news” on the BBC was about meaningless brown people.
On top of that, the entertainment press loves to attack both Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder. You can also toss Matthew Vaughn, Edgar Wright, and Sam Raimi onto that list.
Yeah, I can’t tell you how many leftwing articles I’ve read panning all those household names. Oh wait, yes I can: zero. I do like Edgar White’s guitar work, though…
HOW ARE WE LOSING TO THESE PEOPLE??????
Americans are idiots with a short attention span and an even shorter memory.
He’s Methodist.
Or, depending what version you go for, a Sun worshipper.
How are we losing to these people?
Well, you can fool some of the people all of the time, and if the rest don’t give a shit.
I wrote somewhere today that the most important thing a liberal can do this November is vote, and get some Democrats elected. But make sure they know you voted for them and that they owe their job to you.
The only thing I like about Big Hollywood is all those posts in which that doughy fey “comedian” Stephen Chowder talks about how he’d totally kick Sean Penn’s ass if he had the chance.
Aw, FYWP!
HOW ARE WE LOSING TO THESE PEOPLE??????
Because stupid is thermodynamically favored.
Leftists will hate a Superman movie in which Superman defeats a bad guy who wants to take over the world.
If “leftists” were to hate that film, which I doubt, it might be because they’d seen exactly the same fucking thing approximately 800 million times before.
Oh, and Nolte picking some random movie to call “conservative” for some indeterminate reason and promoting the hell out of it for two weeks.
We’re losing, for now. We’re losing because every society has a portion of the citizenry that can be fooled all of the time. All that has to happen then is nobody cares outside of them.
Vote. It’s important this year, more so than ever before.
Stupid is the default state of the American electorate, unfortunately.
HOW ARE WE LOSING TO THESE PEOPLE??????
After the 2008 election, some people went to sleep politically (“We voted for change! Yay! Now I have to go back to work and take Susie to soccer practice”). The GOP reacted with their “We Have Black People Too!” strategy, which blew up spectacularly in their faces when they realized that having three black people with no real power wasn’t exactly diverse.
Dick Armey funded/backed/created some “grassroots” organization that suddenly realized that America didn’t have as much money as it did before we went into two wars, tax cuts for rich people and bailed out the banking industry. Fox News said, “Don’t blame the GOP, a black Democrat is in charge now!” and the that GO went bonkers, telling anyone with a mic and a camera that they wanted their country back. Most liberals and progressives ignored them until they started storming healthcare townhall meetings, which for some reason made them “a force to be reckoned with.”
The political news media, who secretly hates the fact that real, effective politics is actually boring, declared that a new, powerful political group had arisen. People who read and apply critical thinking discovered that this “new political force” were just a bunch of old, angry white conservatives who were pissed that the GOP lost to a black guy in 2008.
Nevertheless, that didn’t stop pretty much everyone I mentioned before from accusing all of the country’s woes on the Democrats (in general) and that black guy (in particular). And because (much like TNT) the media loves drama, they did everything in their power to hype things up, including the fact that most of these candidates wouldn’t be fit to represent in a model UN, let alone the US Congress.
Now, that’s the long version. The short version is simply: money. That got it, they’re using it, and they’re begging for more.
I always thought of the Batman as being a pretty typical conservative icon. Tough on crime, doesn’t really believe in rehabilitation, even making fun of those who ascribe to it. Plus, in this latest incarnation, Bruce Wayne is a defense contractor (which is how he gets those marvelous toys) and a really tough corporate shark.
He sounds pretty much like your typical Republican…except of course that he puts his own ass on the line.
I also always figured him for a conservative. Do recall that tough-on-crime (and the attendant corruption) was a platform of the New Deal as well, one that drew a lot of independent and Republican voters. (Part of FDR’s appeal as governor of New York was the independence from and hostility to Tammany Hall and its mob ties).
And yes, this is giving way too much analysis to a comic, but still…
The GOP reacted with their “We Have Black People Too!” strategy, which blew up spectacularly in their faces when
they realized that having three black people with no real power wasn’t exactly diverse.they realized that their base hated those three black people almost as much as they hated the Democrats.Fixed.
Also re the “how are we losing?”
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/28267.html
Pretty good summary IMO of why the voters aren’t following the Dems.
And, of course, if there were a very low deficit, they’d still be screaming their heads off about how the Kenyonesian Stalinist Obama was ruining our economy and destroying the freedom of business.
Pro-tip: They don’t really give a shit about debt and the deficit.
The TeaTard bitch on Bill Maher specifically said that they don’t care about defense spending because it’s all about security, and what we need to do is cut Medicare and ‘Social Security spending’ (a program which entirely pays for itself as social insurance).
It’s cause they hate n****** and think that all the social spending goes to n******, ‘Mexicans’, and lazy people avoiding jobs. Of course, all those good TeaTard whites are deserving of the Medicare and Social Security they worked for, so if Obama gave in to their ‘deficit’ bullshit (as though that is what is wrong with the U.S. economy right now, you fucking retard lying shit TeaTardists) and cut those two programs, then they’d be howling about how the Commie-n***** was going after their grandma.
As for political stuff in comics, DC had a miniseries a few years ago called “DC Universe Decisions,” which was pushed as something that would talk about what politics various superheroes would endorse. Here are some of my reviews for that series, mixed in with a lot of other reviews y’all shouldn’t care about.
One of the big problems with the series was that it was co-written by notorious hack Judd Winick. The other big problem was that it was almost completely incoherent as far as who all the superheroes endorsed…
Every now and then, I go back over recent threads to see if anyone’s added something I missed since S,N! moved on.
The last Dinseh D’Souza thread yielded this defiant slap in the face to Sadly Naughts, which should put all of us liberals back in our place http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/33457.html;
Can SUPERMAN, J’ONN J’ONZZ & BLACK WIDOW Defeat Immigration Laws?
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/fictional-immigrants-100511.html
your mentallity is changing this country to look like, EVERYWHERE ELSE
God forbid.
I was out canvassing for my congressman this weekend, and I was shocked by the number of homes for sale. It seemed like in some neighborhoods, every fourth house had a for-sale sign.
I got in an extended conversation with one family who had voted for my guy in 2008 but weren’t sure about now. They were really sore. The daughter and her husband lost their jobs and had to move in with her parents (young children in tow), and the patriarch had insecure employment.
They kept fulminating about nobody gives a shit about jobs, the banks are getting away with murder, etc. They kept asking about how my guy lived. I ‘fessed up that as a successful business owner and nuclear physicist (really), he probably had it better than we did, but he’d worked for every penny. I then reminded them that his opponent carried water for the TeaTards and could be reliably expected to not give a fuck about them if he got into Washington.
I think I might have reached them. The point is, there’s a lot of misdirected anger out there. The demagogues and the others who are experts in channeling negative emotions are licking their chops.
“I think of her like Roger Daltry,” said Mr. Davis, a Navy veteran from Pennsylvania. “He had a good look, a strong personality, and that’s how I think of her. She’s the front man for so many of us who feel the same way.”
I fail to feel the same way, because I think she’s also being a “front man” for something else, too.
Well, now! I am certainly shocked – SHOCKED, I SAY – that the NYT blithely emits any reference to Pam “Hatewhore” Gellar’s finest hour: I refer of course to the glory & wonder of the “Barack Obama = Malcolm X’s Love Child” thesis. Such a telling slice of cultural surrealism (& so ripe with girthy, durable, delicious lulz), yet it gets conveniently ignored here.
Oh, wait – I guess it’s not practical for them to refer to something like that while they’re also busy diligently tongue-buffing her taint with this fanboy-profile. C’mon, Newspaper Of Record – get your thumb out of your arse & MULTI-TASK! Also nice to see that their newly-pimped “COMMODITY” can now afford better
Photoshopface-liftslighting & make-up.The Grey Lady has been a tramp now for a long time, but I’d say a mound of moldy smegma like this puts her right into Pravda/National Enquirer turf.
I guess as long as the NYT’s paycheck doesn’t bounce, Barnard & Feuer can pretend that the bottom of that barrel tastes like caviar.
Dammit…why won’t WP let me post my thinking about why we are losing?
OK, let me try it again.
If you can fool a small portion of the voters all the time, you can steal elections, especially off-year elections. And that’s what is happening this year.
We need to vote. We need to get our friends to vote. We need to pull together a liberal wave that saves these seats and then remind those Congresscritters and governors…ENDlessly…that it was Progressive votes that saved those jobs.
OK, let me try this again.
If you can con a small portion of the voters all the time, you can steal elections, especially off-year elections. And that’s what is happening this year.
We need to vote. We need to get our friends to vote. We need to pull together a liberal wave that saves these seats and then remind those Congresscritters and governors…ENDlessly…that it was Progressive votes that saved those jobs.
Well, now! I am certainly shocked – SHOCKED, I SAY – that the NYT blithely emits any reference to Pam “Hatewhore” Gellar’s finest hour: I refer of course to the glory & wonder of the “Barack Obama = Malcolm X’s Love Child” thesis.
Geller is now calling this a leftist slur, on the grounds that someone else wrote it and she merely posted it. The Malcolm X stuff was buried deep inside that incredibly long post, and you can’t expect her to read all the way to the end of everything she posts, can you?
FINALLY!
Really? The word “f00l” triggered something in the database for you, WP?
FYWP!
Oh wait, that idiot! That’s why it wouldn’t take it!
I ‘fessed up that as a successful business owner and nuclear physicist (really),
John Olver? I was just in Western Mass last weekend, on the eastern side of the mountains. What a depressing place.
John Olver? I was just in Western Mass last weekend, on the eastern side of the mountains. What a depressing place.
No, my guy is Bill Foster, Ill.-14
Oh great! Now every single post I tried to make using that word “f00l” is being cleared for publication?
Gee…thanks!
Geller is now calling this a leftist slur, on the grounds that someone else wrote it and she merely posted it.
And added photographs, including Malcolm X’s…
The Malcolm X stuff was buried deep inside that incredibly long post, and you can’t expect her to read all the way to the end of everything she posts, can you?
Wait; are y’all telling me that no one remembers the scene from the Spike Lee movie where Malcolm gives a 20 minutes speech about his plans to father a potential U.S. president? It was right before the lightsaber battle with Dr. King! C’mon!
It was right before the lightsaber battle with Dr. King!
Was that before or after he battles Ron Jeremy in a race for poon?
[Bruce Wayne/Batman] sounds pretty much like your typical Republican…except of course that he puts his own ass on the line.
Plus he also runs his own corporation so it’s actually moral, goes after other corporations that harm the public rather than waiting for the Invisible Hand, believes in the equal application of justice, and not once has ever bitched about paying taxes.
Oh, and he’s never shot up an abortion clinic.
Oh, and he’s preferred to have girlfriends rather than marriages that won’t work.
Oh, and he doesn’t **appear** to have had gay sex with his inappropriate boy sidekick.
As for boinking Batgirl – don’t ask, don’t tell.
Well since we’re not allowed to comment about how the massive 60% D House and Senate lead to extremely watered-down half-efforts on progressive fronts – lest we be accused of Fire-bagging, how about this:
Who’s losing?
You wanna post-mortem a massive electoral loss, wait until it’s post-mortem. It’s a midterm election, the economy is in the crapper and the Democrats are going into this thing with more seats to lose than they’ve had in decades. Are the Dems going to get a thrashing? Compared to 2008, yes. That was a fucking massive landslide. Keeping that kind of lead requires action of the type that I’d be screaming about if it weren’t for paragraph 1. Are they going to get turfed out in a Bizzaro-world mirror image of 2008? Not bloody likely.
So, yes the Dems are looking to lose the House. I blame Obama (actually this time) but in order to soothe jangled nerves, I also blame the Senate. Still, teh CLENIS lost BOTH House and Senate in ’94 and managed to get a decent administration out of it, blue dresses aside. Also a shame – the return of the excuse that the Dems don’t have enough seats to make any meaningful progress. That’ll fucking suck shit. But realistically? Teh Left is in better position than it’s been in for a long long time. Don’t forget that we’re still coming out of Teh Dark Time of the early years of the Millenium.
Don’t forget that we’re still coming out of Teh Dark Time of the early years of the Millenium.
Point.
Point.
I believe the word you’re looking for is Touché.
I believe the word you’re looking for is Touché.
Touchý, ain’t you?
Still, teh CLENIS lost BOTH House and Senate in ’94 and managed to get a decent administration out of it, blue dresses aside.
If you discount, as I pointed out the other day, the shift of public thinking further right with the supposed “revolution”, the shutdowns of the government, the fact that Clinton essentially goverened as a Repug-lite for his second term (end of welfare, telecomm bill, attacks on Yugoslavia & Iraq).
Touchý, ain’t you?
Actually, I just wanted to link Candace Bailey. She’s cute as a button and as a gymnast, probably flexes in interesting ways.
Dire times nearly always breed authoritarian reality-tunnels. Crisis is a real killer that way. Unfortunately, advanced technology has no obligation whatsoever to oblige that quirk of history, & its order of scale, depth & power are increasing exponentially.
With great power comes
responsibilitythe need for basic mental hygiene as the main predicate of survival. “THESE PEOPLE” aren’t exactly chomping at the bit to believe this is true.{ PENIS joke here plzkthx }
If you discount, as I pointed out the other day, the shift of public thinking further right with the supposed “revolution”
In fairness to Clinton, he did try to institute a genuine progressive agenda and was abandoned by his party.
…the fact that Clinton essentially goverened as a Repug-lite for his second term (end of welfare, telecomm bill, attacks on Yugoslavia & Iraq).
You had me until Yugoslavia. The air raids that deterred Milosevic’s attacks on Kosovo were the right thing to do. That bastard had his minions rape and slaughter their way across Greater Serbia, all the while whimpering that the Serbs were the victims. It’s greatly to the world’s shame that that sack of shit was allowed to die of natural causes.
Clinton (finally!) did something to stop him, and was met with predictable sniping from Republicans, to whom the Kosovars meant nothing but an opportunity to score some more cheap political points.
Clinton (finally!) did something to stop him, and was met with predictable sniping from Republicans, to whom the Kosovars meant nothing but an opportunity to score some more cheap political points.
That was then. Some of their bloggers today actually defend the Serbians, because the Kosovars were Muslim and a long time ago they did something horrible to the Serbs and why don’t liberals ever care about that, huh?
I suppose support for ethnic cleansing fits in with their Israel/Palestine policy.
Problem is, they had to manipulate us into war on Yugoslavia. We handed them a document that was more of a loser’s concession, they refused it, and we “had” to go to war.
“Appendix B” I think it was called. It’s been a while since I looked this stuff up.
You really think the UD link for the word ‘fap’ was really necessary, Gavin? This isn’t goddamn Commonweal.
{ PENIS joke here plzkthx }
Your wish is my command.
Or how about
No? Okay, one more try:
I’m still pretty down on the whole Serbian bombing. If you’re going to bomb, bomb military targets.
I blame Obama (actually this time) but in order to soothe jangled nerves, I also blame the Senate.
I think he has the share the blame as well. He actually thought he was dealing with mature rational adults that just had minor ideological differences, and not, you know, sociopaths.
I think he has the share the blame as well. He actually thought he was dealing with mature rational adults that just had minor ideological differences, and not, you know, sociopaths.
A naiveté bordering on mental retardation.
I mean, sure, we expected him to make a few bipartisan gestures – every president does that. But he seems to have really expected, for far too long, that the Republicans would meet him reasonably and fairly and that they could, as you said, sit down together as rational adults and negotiate the best deal for the country –
Where the fuck has he been for the last forty fucking years!?! It actually scares me that a president, whom you’d think would be very well versed in politics, appeared completely oblivious to something that fucking fundamental to the system he’s working in.
If you’re going to bomb, bomb military targets
That’s so cute.
I can’t think of a single war where that was in force. Even WWII saw both sides bomb the shit out of civilian targets and cities.
Yes, and a substantial body of people think Hiroshima and Dresden were war crimes. In general, I’d say aiming for fewer war crimes is a good thing. Call me crazy.
In general, I’d say aiming for fewer war crimes is a good thing. Call me crazy.
The difficulty becomes, what’s civilian v. what’s military. Yes, yes, collateral damage and all that, but in truth, is a auto factory military or civilian if half its production is jeeps and the other half is Jeeps?
Even WWII saw both sides bomb the shit out of civilian targets and cities.
Note that it was claimed at the time that they were valid military targets, especially Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
In the land I inhabit, where the sparkleponies run free and frolic in fields of daisies, the ker-shmillion dollar bill is the only currency we use.
If you’re going to bomb, bomb military targets
I can’t think of a single war where that was in force
Invasion of Grenada.
A comparable disparity in military might, too!
There was also the fine job that Clinton did on Rwanda (refusing to ship them out-of-date armored personell carriers that could have saved lives and dithering on calling it “genocide”) but I think that was more in 1994 than after the elections. Still pisses me off, though.
Yes, and a substantial body of people think Hiroshima and Dresden were war crimes.
You’d have been hard-pressed to find anyone in the U.S. in 1945 who considered Hiroshima a war crime.
BTW re: Superman…further up…hope no one has already made this observation, but I think the genius at Big Gay Hollywood is trying to say that everyone waiting on Superman to save the day is analogous to all us lazy liberals waiting for Obama to make sure Soros mails our checks on time…or something like that. It’s just another “liberals are all lazy” and want welfare for everyone snark. Only unlike a lot of snark, it’s not funny or even based in reality.
It’s indeed difficult. For instance a passenger train was crossing a bridge that got bombed. I don’t know what the value of the bridge was, but you can see military reasons for doing that, and AFAIK the missile that did it was not launched by guys who knew a train was coming.
But I don’t think bombing a television station should be part of the deal.
I can’t think of a single war where that was in force
Invasion of Grenada.
I said “war” not military exercises…
But I don’t think bombing a television station should be part of the deal.
If that station is reporting the positions of US troops?
Call me crazy.
You are crazy.
Yes, yes, collateral damage and all that, but in truth, is a auto factory military or civilian if half its production is jeeps and the other half is Jeeps?
Civilian. I’d argue that factories producing arms and ammunition are civilian. I’m anti-war pretty darn thoroughly, but if your war is predicated on killing enough of the citizens of the enemy into demoralizing them into surrender than you have entered a new phase of “war” that I am a whole new level of “anti” towards.
You could find some pretty high up in the military who thought that at the least it was a very bad idea.
I’d argue that factories producing arms and ammunition are civilian. I’m anti-war pretty darn thoroughly, but if your war is predicated on killing enough of the citizens of the enemy into demoralizing them into surrender than you have entered a new phase of “war” that I am a whole new level of “anti” towards.
My position on bombing and wars is, just don’t. Period. There are always better ways to resolve a conflict.
However, the line between military and civilian becomes blurry in times of war. We can be pretty clear (well, up to this current GWOT) that a house is civilian, and a military base is military.
In the mushy middle is where shit gets screwy. I can see an argument that a munitions factory is a military target. If I was a general in WWII and had the chance to knock the shit out of the Krupp factories, I wouldn’t hesitate to bomb because I might kill civilians. I might give them appropriate warning to evacuate, but it wouldn’t stop me from the sortie.
Let them, and let the war be fought be troops and not civilians.
You could find some pretty high up in the military who thought that at the least it was a very bad idea.
Interesting that it was conservatives who made that case in the press.
Ever notice how the intros to “Won’t Get Fooled Again” and “Baba O’Riley” are ripoffs of Terry Riley’s “In C”?
Or that the Moody Blues “Question” rips off “Pinball Wizard?”
Seriously, this way lies madness; might as well claim that every repeating piano arpeggio is a ripoff of Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells intro.
For bigger fun, claim that Mike Batt’s “A Minute of Silence” rips off John Cage’s “4’33″”, as the Cage estate did. Best comment by far was from Mike’s Mom who wanted to know which minute they were claiming he stole, second place for Mike’s own comment that he accomplished in a minute that which took Cage 4 minutes and thirty three seconds– therefore his was the superior piece.
Let them, and let the war be fought be troops and not civilians.
In your opinion. Military strategy dictates cutting lines of communication.
I wonder if the Serbian campaign will eventually receive a similar laundering, despite the blowjobs.
The media done loves them some Teabaggers.
“activists” my ass.
The problem with WW2 analogies (and WW1 and Civil War) is that back then, everything was heavy machinery. We didn’t have stealth technology, smart bombs, satellites, assault helicopters, drones, or any of the million pieces of “smart” technology that we have on today’s battlefield. Thus, we have options today that we didn’t back then.
You could find some pretty high up in the military who thought that at the least it was a very bad idea.
Your link has a lot of speculation. But the unalterable fact is, the new prime minister, Admiral Suzuki, had rejected a call for surrender just before the atomic bombing.
The alternatives were a land invasion of the Japanese home islands, which would have been horrifically bloody for both sides, or a prolonged bombing/blockade, which would have dragged out the war God knows how long (and probably killed many more civilians than perished in the atomic attacks).
I take this slightly personally because, as I think I said on this board a few years ago, I’m the son of a Marine who fought in the South Pacific and who very well might have shed his blood on the shores of Japan if it weren’t for the atomic bombs.
Thus, we have options today that we didn’t back then
And the enemy we fight today is very different, and is decidely not military. Or at least not uniformed military.
The lines of communication were broadcast towers, not the building where the news was assembled.
I said “war” not military exercises…
A purist about the use of words would hestitate to call the NATO bombardment of Serbia a war either.
We didn’t have stealth technology, smart bombs, satellites, assault helicopters, drones, or any of the million pieces of “smart” technology that we have on today’s battlefield. Thus, we have options today that we didn’t back then.
The “smart” weapons have increased proportionally the civilian deaths, though, as the Pentagon is quicker to use them than the old systems.
Seriously – we’re letting the CIA now have Predator drones armed with missiles? This makes sense?
The lines of communication were broadcast towers, not the building where the news was assembled.
You’ve never pirated radio, I see.
I said “war” not military exercises…
A purist about the use of words would hestitate to call the NATO bombardment of Serbia a war either.
I was more pointing out the silliness of that entire Grenada episode. Was even a bomb dropped on the island? I don’t know.
Because in 2006 and 2008, Americans elected Democrats to enact Democratic ideas and fix the fuck ups of Republicans … only to see those Democrats turn around and give Republicans everything they wanted, put into place idiotic and long-ago-discredited Republican ideas, and just otherwise act like Republicans.
Add in a media bought and paid for by conservative interests, and we get what we currently have: a bunch of racist and willfully ignorant dumbfucks about ready to take seats in Congress thanks to a bunch of racist and willfully ignorant dumbfucks funded by rich racist dumbfucks, and who weren’t called as racist and willfully ignorant dumbfucks by our dumbfuck media (see: This Thread, the topic of).
So, yeah. It’s just a natural progression of ignorance and dumbfuckery.
But at least we all get to see what it was like to live in the last days of the Roman empire … so we got that going for us.
**sobs**
There’s a lot more to it than that, ably argued by an actual historian, which I am not.
A better link to the Alperowitz material:
http://www.doug-long.com/debate.htm
There were more alternatives being discussed than a bloody invasion your dad could have died in.
Seriously – we’re letting the CIA now have Predator drones armed with missiles? This makes sense?
You know the history, of course?
In 2000, we had a bead on bin Laden, via a Predator that had observational capacity only. The CIA had to call in an airstrike (I think it was a cruise missile from a carrier in the Gulf) and it took more than twenty minutes to get the White House to call the Pentagon.
So, they simply started loading the drones with Hellfires.
If you want to acknowledge that the US could never have stopped dedicated pirates, I agree. So the station is not worth bombing.
Was even a bomb dropped on the island? I don’t know.
You could look it up.
If you want to acknowledge that the US could never have stopped dedicated pirates, I agree.
Nope.
Your point is to bomb a tower that might carry actual civilian information and could just as easily be placed in a civilian neighborhood, whereas the station is likely in a commercial district, thus minimizing civilian casualties to the people in the station.
So your solution actually carries greater risk.
I really enjoy it when Subby makes my case for me because he does it in a much more succinct and non-academic way then I ever could. Yes, these were war crimes. They are what happens when the powers that be hijack public opinion and re-label horrific actions as important patriotic objectives.
Was even a bomb dropped on the island? I don’t know.
You could look it up.
I did. The best I could find to validate was “close air support” which to me might mean bombing but could also mean strafing runs. Looking at those pictures, I’d say low-level bombing is more likely.
Was it?
There were more alternatives being discussed than a bloody invasion your dad could have died in.
You can discuss alternatives all day long, but if the enemy won’t accept them, there’s not much you can do. This Gar Whatever’s thesis seems to boil down to, “We didn’t ask them to surrender nicely enough.”
Your point is to bomb a tower that might carry actual civilian information and could just as easily be placed in a civilian neighborhood
Was it?
Since this is a hypothetical, yes. Of course it is.
But in real life, it is as well.
There’s a reason so many women on Long Island are complaining about microwave radiation, radio waves and electric wires and breast cancer incidence.
You know you’ve crossed a line when you manage to embarrass Jonah Goldberg.
Man Gets Revenge on Ex-Girlfriend on C-SPAN 2
“Man” isn’t the word I would use. This is Jr. High level pettiness, only on national TV.
Read the material and argue with me about it later. If “nicely” means saving 1000000 lives plus 100000 more I’m willing to throw propriety out the window.
Man Gets Revenge on Ex-Girlfriend on C-SPAN 2
If work blocks you, here’s the blow by blow
http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/18/guy-gets-revenge-on-ex-girlfriend-on-cspan2/
Well, where we can establish that neither of us knows what we’re talking about I’m for the killing of fewer hypothetical civilians.
Jonah is in excellent company.
I can see an argument that a munitions factory is a military target.
Turns out it was lot harder to knock out a factory than they thought.
Usually they would just knock down the building, but the machinery would still be largely intact. The Germans would just clear the rubble, put up a new building, and have the thing running again sometimes within days. We never really put a dent in German war production by bombing factories. Certainly not for the number of lives and material that was lost in the strategic bombing campaign.
Dammit! I wish my Websense wouldn’t block Vanity Fair! Henry Rollins apparently tears Rand Paul a new one.
Of course, German planes conducted “Terror bombing raids”.
British planes “De-housed the work force”*
*Actual term used by RAF Bomber Command
Has anyone seen this?:
ORLY?
Jonah is either an alcoholic, or sunburns real easily.
Dude looks like he had a bunch of rouge put on him by a 6-year-old blind kid.
Which I’m sure is central to his point of being a big fat dickbag of stupid.
Jonah is either an alcoholic, or sunburns real easily.
I think it might be rosacea.
ORLY?
Wait…what?
The funny part?
He’s telling the truth — I’m digging for a quote from that bitch (I had it saved somewhere) that proves she really is okay with human suffering. She really thinks the government should NOT do ANYTHING to help alleviate it in any way. She really does think the nation would be better if more people suffered as much, and as horrifically, as possible.*
In other words, she’s a conservative who is honest about her worldview.
(* Offer valid for non-whites only. White people should never suffer because they are real Americans.)
What a shame. Those two would’ve made some handsome babies.
Those two would’ve made some handsome babies.
That entire panel had a whole “B-Ark Hitler Youth” vibe to it…
Those two would’ve made some handsome babies.
Evidently mark f is one of these liberal foodies who cares more about presentation on the plate than actual flavour.
Yep.
Apparently, having candidates that favor using chickens to pay for healthcare, want to abolish the minimum wage and Medicare, want to privatize Soc. Sec., reject basic science, and who arrest journalists for asking questions is the “mainstream” party.
Those folks who want to regulate the industry who ruined our economy? Who want to let tax cuts on income more than $250K expire? Who want to ensure a future with clean energy and less dependence on foreign oil? Who think our infrastructure needs to be fixed?
Those folks are extremists, don’t ya know!
Even when a majority of the American public agrees with them.
We never really put a dent in German war production by bombing factories.
I’ve seen some information that the war production actually went up during the bombing campaign. As did German morale.
Strategic bombing does jack.
ORLY?
Oh yes. The inevitable consequence of shitty education combined with a Fox News media that routinely repeats that the president is a fascist, a socialist, a Muslim extremist, a black nationalist, etc etc etc… with a mainstream media that doesn’t bother to refute it and if it does, often isn’t watched.
Voters more likely to see Democrats as dominated by extremists
They are also more likely to be seen as in bondage to special interests and whipped by feminazis, yet are still capable of ramming their packages down throats for stimulus.
Note that it was claimed at the time that they were valid military targets, especially Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
If I’m not mistaken, one of the reasons that H & N were nuked was that they had been relatively unscathed by conventional bombing (I forget the rationale behind this, though.) therefore the A-bombs would be completely responsible for all the destruction wrought, which would clearly demonstrate just what a bad-ass weapon it was.
They are also more likely to be seen as in bondage to special interests and whipped by feminazis, yet are still capable of ramming their packages down throats for stimulus.
Now THAT’S Progress!
Joe “You lie!” Wilson stays classy.
one of the reasons that H & N were nuked was that they had been relatively unscathed by conventional bombing
Correct.
I don’t know either why they had been left unbombed if they were as important military targets as contemporary accounts made them out to be. Seems fishy to me, but, being a leftist, what do I know?
The inevitable consequence of shitty education combined with a Fox News media that routinely repeats that the president is a fascist, a socialist, a Muslim extremist, a black nationalist, etc etc etc… with a mainstream media that doesn’t bother to refute it and if it does, often isn’t watched.
Republicans have a tactical advantage in that they know and are willing to manipulate fear.
Look, bottom line: most of the country is afraid. If not economically, then either of terrorism or undocumented workers and the rise of the poor. The GOP is not above playing on those fears as opposed to working to make people actually safer.
Obama’s moment came, you’ll recall, just after the economy tanked (and Sarah Palin was picked). Until then, McCain was making a race of it. But Obama reached out to people and spoke to their fears and said “we’ll make it better”.
So fear-mongering can be beaten. Just not by these assclowns.
It’s the kind of thing that makes me want to put my head through a wall.
You’d be amazed at how perpetrating fraud upon a court can make it very friendly,to the other side.
Where is Maxwell’s Demon when we need it?
I seem to remember that even LeMay was concerned that if we were to lose, he’d be prosecuted for war crimes for his bombing the fuck out of the cities of Japan. You don’t worry about that without at least some recognition that the charges could be right.
Conversely, the idea that the populations were engaged in production of war materiel does hold quite a bit of water, but should be looked at case by case.
Republicans have a tactical advantage in that they know and are willing to manipulate fear.
They also have a great advantage in that it generally takes a lot less time to tear things down than to put them back together, so Obama’s promise to “make things better” is not happening overnight and thus gives the repugs a chance to keep hollerin’ that it just ain’t happening.
To follow up on the previous “war” post;
The problem with the war on terror specifically, as many liberals have noted for years, is that we’ve taken what’s basically a police problem and turned it over to the military. History hasn’t been kind to this approach – the Union army didn’t defeat the KKK, the French army didn’t defeat the FLN, and the Israeli “Defense” Force hasn’t had much luck with Hamas and Hezbollah. (The only military deployment against terrorists that was considered a “succes” that I can think of was Operation Banner in Northern Ireland. Even there, plenty of people still debate whether it was a success and whether the success was due to the military).
On the other hand, police forces have had far greater success taking down terrorists. FBI vs. KKK, French police vs. OAS, European police agencies vs. 1970s/80s left wing radicals. The most blatant example was in a Latin American country (think it was Peru) where the military was unsuccessfully deployed for years against a left wing guerrilla army – then, a special unit was formed within the national police, made up of less than a hundred men, which managed to catch the guerrilla leaders where the full force of the military had failed.
There’s a lesson to be learned there.
The catch, with al-Qaeda, is that too many of its people operate abroad; we can’t just send the FBI over to arrest them, and our Middle Eastern allies are often less reliable than our European ones (plus the times, like Afghanistan or Somalia, when there’s little or no government or police at all). Even then, I suspect good intelligence work (with an emphasis on HUMINT) would have been at least as effective as military force in catching terrorists.
You’d have been hard-pressed to find anyone in the U.S. in 1945 who considered Hiroshima a war crime.
“My Trial as a War Criminal”, but that was not published until 1949.
There’s a lesson to be learned there.
Which we had, I thought. After the 1993 WTC bombing, Clinton charged the FBI with counterterrorism (he used the military and CIA when and where he had to, of course), and during the next eight years, rolled up 16 separate terror acts in the works.
This was the information that Richard Clarke was pretty much screaming himself hoarse trying to get the incoming Bushies to listen to.
Yes, well, since Clinton did it like that, the Bush folks just had to do the opposite, because Clinton was a Democrat and Democrats are bad.
See? Perfect logic.
No matter how many times you bomb, you will not destroy the terrorists. The more you bomb and attack, the more you rip apart societies into increasingly lawless, chaotic, ungovernable areas. The more of those you create, the easier it is for terrorists to proliferate without much hope of policing.
Given that the majority of attack planning on the West has taken place in Europe or the US itself, it’s not inexplicable that intelligence / police work has been more effective.
Had a certain President not blown away all alerts as to an imminent terror attack, we would have by that point been far more protected than blowing the shit out of an Al Qa’ida training camp, given that the terrorists were already here.
Cockpit door locks would have likely prevented the 9/11 attacks. Not so much bombing various locations in South Asia. But if some large, stable terrorist training camp does originate again, and if it’s not really yet another wedding party (if I were them I’d never hold a wedding party outside Kabul again) to blow apart, the military option is still there.
At some other snarky site, El Cid linked to this D’Souza piece last week, but I feel it did not receive the proper amount of mockery. Obama is fulfilling his dad’s dream of decolonizing space. Is he trying to establish a caliphate on LV-426?
At some other snarky site, El Cid linked to this D’Souza piece last week, but I feel it did not receive the proper amount of mockery.
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First, if it was as true as D’Snooza rants, why is it not as equally likely that he was doing TO ELIMINATE THE MUSLIM QUESTION by shooting them all off into space?
Second, it’s a bit of a leap to go from “thanking Muslims for their contributions”…you know, things like zero and algebra, stuff we in the West msised during the Dark Ages, that Islam saved…to inviting them to decolonize space.
At some other snarky site, El Cid linked to this D’Souza piece last week, but I feel it did not receive the proper amount of mockery.
Seriously, I’m beginning to understand what Buckley meant when he talked about standing athwart history shouting STOP!
Strangely, Vanilla Ice’s new TV show isn’t bad. He turns what is nominally a crappy, parasitical pastime into something fun and useful. And he’s not bad on camera.
Sadly, history is a rocket-powered skateboard built by the ACME corporation.
Sadly, history is a rocket-powered skateboard built by the ACME corporation.
WIN!
I think the value of strategic bombing is a tricky one. Clearly there are several factors to consider: the intended target, the effect of blowing up that target and the capability of hitting the target. Many early world war 2 bombing raids were in fact aimed at legitimate military targets, but the woeful inaccuracy of bombing at the time turned them from precise surgical strikes to badly aimed (and ineffective) civilian terror attacks. When a target is legitimately identifiable as military, i.e. a fort or a battleship(so called ‘high contrast’ targets), aerial bombardment is a great choice of attack methods. As the contrast level declines (for instance an infiltrator looks much like a civilian from 30,000 feet) the effectiveness of aerial attack also declines.
Effect. Blowing up high contrast targets usually has an immediate tactical payoff. Blowing up lower contrast targets often has a blowback far in excess of the military advantage. Clearly the US air force is a master of destroying, well pretty much anything, but target identification is occasionally lacking. If one has air superiority and one can convince the other side to assemble in high contrast targets, Aerial bombardment may be the key to a low casualty victory. Applying aerial bombardment to situations where high contrast targets are not present is a losing, or at best useless strategy.
As far as the ability of aerial bombardment to break a civilian population’s morale, goes, that is in direct correlation to the density (not to mention flammability) of the target population’s residence.
In Afghanistan, the absence of high contrast military targets makes close air support (after positive on site target ID) a better strategy than carpet bombing. In World War II the situation was different and the stakes were much higher, and the capability of precision bombing much lower.
To me, it looks like the Air force has spent the last 70 years gearing up to fight World War 2 all over again, only this time, bigger, faster and cooler.
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I hope actor212’s desk has consented to what he seems to be doing to it.
I hope actor212?s desk has consented to what he seems to be doing to it.
It wouldn’t be the first time it’s gotten a little head from me.
Wait. Let me rephrase that…
I don’t know either why they had been left unbombed if they were as important military targets as contemporary accounts made them out to be.
Read most of Submissive McG.’s link, found only a mention by some high-up military type that H&N were “mostly civilian” cites.
Throw in my WWII combat credits: My immediate male ancestor was at Pearl Harbor, shooting at Mitsubishis in his skivvies, & continued across the Pacific. Seems to me that an island nation, w/ few natural resources & almost all of its invaded & occupied territories returned to their previous colonial owners, could have been pretty effectively blockaded for a few mos. ’til they broke down & gave up. I’m not really sure an invasion would even have been necessary.
And “civilians?” HAH-FUCKING-HAH!!
Brain-dead Emperor worshippers, Hitlerite Krauts (All of whom, of course, were around the corner buying cigarettes during the War & didn’t really know what was going on!) or voters in an alleged democracy are equally complicit in the crimes of their governments, & should be punished equally as severely. No one is innocent!!!!!!
As far as the ability of aerial bombardment to break a civilian population’s morale, goes, that is in direct correlation to the density (not to mention flammability) of the target population’s residence.
Strategic bombing of population centers did little to weaken British, German, North Korean or North Vietnamese morale. In general it tends to make them want to fight that much more.
Speaking as a retired USAF Lt. Colonel, former B-52 aircraft commander, and a guy who’s dropped a whole shitload of bombs in his time.
When a target is legitimately identifiable as military, i.e. a fort or a battleship(so called ‘high contrast’ targets), aerial bombardment is a great choice of attack methods.
Arguably, that’s tactical bombing, not strategic, and close air support is another thing entirely.
Clearly the US air force is a master of destroying, well pretty much anything, but target identification is occasionally lacking
To me, it looks like the Air force has spent the last 70 years gearing up to fight World War 2 all over again, only this time, bigger, faster and cooler.
Replace that with “the military” as a whole. Retired Marine General Zinni mentioned this in his autobiography, as one of the key problems of the U.S. military – the obsession with refighting World War Two, which is recalled as “the good war” in all respects. But those days are long gone, and the military’s loath to admit it.
We’re the best in the world when it comes to fighting conventional wars. If WMD wars were winnable in any meaningful way, I’m sure we’d be the tops at that too. But we really and truly suck when it comes to fighting asymetrical wars, and not least because we insist on pretending that we’re fighting WW2 in situations that are more analogous to, say, the postwar South.
Joe “You lie!” Wilson stays classy.
Reminds me of Hillary Clanton [sic] saying she was “under fire” when her plane landed at an airport in the Balkans during that military exercise.
My immediate male ancestor was at Pearl Harbor, shooting at Mitsubishis in his skivvies
I am pleased to say that my immediate male ancestor spent the duration of WW2 being officially dead, owing to NZ bureaucrats confusing his name for that of his recently-deceased father; a confusion that he did not get around to correcting until peace had broken out.
In the interests of full disclosure I have to admit that he never would have been allowed into the army anyway, being a farm-boy and Essential for the War Effort.
Yes, well, since Clinton did it like that, the Bush folks just had to do the opposite, because Clinton was a Democrat and Democrats are bad.
See? Perfect logic.
You may think you’re joking, but I recall plenty of post-11 September 2001 typing that indicated this was exactly the approach the Bushies took, which is why they ignored all warnings of trouble from terrorists.
Talk about reactionary.
Obama imposes Shania law in Tennessee.
Didn’t notice that anyone addressed this, but yes, those Who intros do sound like Terry Riley. “Baba O”Riley”, get it? Townshend certainly acknowledged it at the time.
You may think you’re joking, but I recall plenty of post-11 September 2001 typing that indicated this was exactly the approach the Bushies took, which is why they ignored all warnings of trouble from terrorists.
The Bushie approach to foreign policy when he was elected was semi-isolationist (no more commies, so who cares?); he actually ran on a platform that criticized Clinton for being too engaged, echoing what Gingrich and company had been saying throughout the nineties. To the extent that Republicans from 1991 to 2001 cared about foreign policy, it was only about great power relations with Russia and China (which is good for the military-industrial complex; looks of expensive toys like stealth or SDI).
The fact that Republicans managed to sweep that entire decade completely under the carpet is a testament to how little scrutiny the media actually places on them and how poor liberals have been at getting their message out. Imagine if we’d gotten out a drumbeat message blaming the post-1994 Republican Congress for 9/11 in the same way they’ve blamed Clinton (and we’d have had a hell of a lot more grounds).
Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey publicly criticized the project during a speech in August.
“You could even argue whether being a Muslim is actually a religion, or is it a nationality, way of life, a cult, whatever you want to call it,” Ramsey, then a candidate for Tennessee governor, said at a rally.
Hey, thanks, Teabaggers. Really. If it wasn’t for your farting over OMFG GZ MEGA MOSQUE people wouldn’t feel empowered to pull this kind of shite.
WTF? Does “being Muslim” now trump “freedom of religion” everywhere in this godforsaken country?
And a fire in August at the construction site destroyed an earth mover and damaged three other vehicles in what police determined to be the work of one or more arsonists.
Christ. All that’s missing is a burning cross.
‘I didn’t know they had white Muslims anyway! They ain’t supposed to. And sure as hell not here.’
My pater was a farm-boy too, but his P.U.s took him down to the recruiting office in December 1940, days after his 17th birthday, & signed his ass up for the Navy so he could send them all of his paycheck. (They liked wearing shoes & stuff.)
Progress, though: He was a dirt-poor hick, & 70 yrs. later I’m a dirt-poor sophisticated urbanite.
‘I didn’t know they had white Muslims anyway!
Of course they do. I prefer the natural, unbleached muslin myself but it is frequently sold in white as well.
Townshend certainly acknowledged it at the time.
Doesn’t count unless Riley got BMI/ASCAP/PRS $$$.
El Cid, where does this shite that “Islam is not a relegion but a political movement” come from? It’s new. (see first of two comments at your link)
Has anyone pointed out to these jokers that “Islam is no more political than Cristianity is asshole!” or “political speech is also protected by the 1st Am dickwad so even if your dumb ‘point’ wins, your asshole argument still fails.” I would but comments require registration and I don’t play that way.
I hope actor212?s desk has consented to what he seems to be doing to it.
As long as he’s not fucking that chicken & choking it w/ the drawer.
El Cid, where does this shite that “Islam is not a relegion but a political movement” come from?
I’ve been hearing it for a couple of years.
PJM, obviously. LGF back when it was the rage. All those fundie pastors and assorted crazies preaching the Other’s religion is evil while theirs is not. Probably quite a few pundits on Fox. In the echo chamber of conservative media, it’s hard to know who said what first.
Addendum;
I’ve been seeing Islamophobic tracts pop up since all the way back to 9/11, obviously – it was a pretty popular trend on the right, most of all with the base and with certain pundits. But it wasn’t on the political scene in the same way that it is now, partly because Bush endorsed the “we are not at war with Islam” message clearly and repeatedly during his time in office.
Since after the 2008 election, though, it’s become a universal message with nothing to hold them back anymore. So either “a couple years” or “since 9/11.”
El Cid, where does this shite that “Islam is not a relegion but a political movement” come from? It’s new.
Not that new. Xian weenie interpretation of Islam, based on their “reading” of Sharia, allows them to claim that since Mooslims are all supposed to be governed by Koranic precepts rather than a separate political system, it’s not a religion like, you know, Judeo-Xianity, which has no interest in this world at all, of course.
Getting to the bottom (as it were) of the origin of the Tonic sus4/Tonic m7 see saw is going to be an excessively academic exercise. Among the suspects I’ve heard Palastrina as a persuasive culprit.
I really dislike people who can type (Let alone think!) faster than I can hunt-&-peck!
Chris, I have only heard it in the last few months, around the time of the not mosque at not ground zero bullshit. This begs the question, are they liars or retards?
OK that was obscure, but I’m a talkin’ about the Who intro, way above.
where does this shite that “Islam is not a relegion but a political movement” come from?
Recycled old rhetoric with s/Judaism/Islam/.
Progress, though: He was a dirt-poor hick, & 70 yrs. later I’m a dirt-poor sophisticated urbanite.
Progress: my father wasn’t a particularly good farmer so eventually he joined the Gubblement and travelled the country advising farmers how to do their job better.
I wasn’t a particularly good bureaucrat so eventually I went contractor and now I advise bureaucrats on how to do their job better.
There was also the fine job that Clinton did on Rwanda (refusing to ship them out-of-date armored personell carriers that could have saved lives and dithering on calling it “genocide”) but I think that was more in 1994 than after the elections.
The military command turned those down, it was not a decision of Clinton’s. Remember, those weren’t sent over in the first place, even though the UN sent in their APCs And it would not have mattered much, the whole mission was a clusterfuck of unpreparedness. They didn’t even have accurate maps on the ground, in spite of continuous aerial overflights. The RPG’s they used were quite capable of breaking those APC’s, and it was common to use IED’s in the junk piles they threw across the streets, which was why they didn’t put the humvees through them. The UN lost several APC’s in the rescue.
The big failure was the Bush Era people who were still following a hunt and kill agenda. The Clinton people had been trying to negotiate a peace settlement, and had come up with a solution at least palatable enough to get Aidid to call a gathering of 150 + clan members to discuss the proposal. The Bush people heard about the gathering and launched a couple of hellfires into the building, killing dozens.
That was what prompted the clan to set the trap in the first place, and gave them a willingness to engage toe to toe while Rangers chewed their people up. People forget we racked a ridiculous casualty ratio, with some estimates going over 100:1
Among the suspects I’ve heard Palastrina as a persuasive culprit.
Uh, G.L.O.W. Gal Palestina?
To the extent that it’s not merely anti-Arab anti-Muslim bullshit, there are many fundamentalist Muslim groups throughout the world which justify political change to empower Islamic fundamentalist rule.
In the US, Christian fundamentalist groups who do the same thing don’t count, because they’re white and Christian.
Historically speaking, Islam was very much part and parcel of a political movement; it was able to spread along the equatorial regions from Gibraltar across Arabia the way over to China and across the Pacific to Indonesia and throughout Northern Africa and down the eastern coast of Africa [the latter often more as a trading and language system] precisely because (a) Muslim empires conquered a whole shitload of territories and didn’t tolerate rival high level leadership of systems of governance and other institutions by other religions, and (b) it did offer a coherent political and legal and intellectual and religious system which appeared (and in many cases did) to offer the locals much more in terms of development and trade than did many of their indigenous or Christian or other religions.
The Europeans learned a great deal from the technological advances of the maritime Arab trade by studying their maps and the type of sails used in boats called ‘dhow’, from which the Portuguese caravels took much of their design. (And which helped when later the Portuguese decided to blow the shit out of Eastern African city states in order to colonize them and monopolize trade!)
In addition, the fantastically successful seafaring trade system from Eastern Africa to China and Pacific states and the Silk Road type overland trades made it truly desirable for local mini-states to become part of Arabian or Muslim empires.
Of course there was a similar spread of Christianity through European and Eastern European expansionism, complete with a compatible state system, though its spread to the conquered imperial regions (the Americas, Africa, South Asia, etc.) was a bit different as it was mostly forced.
The resurgence of Islamic movements as the main political movements in the Middle East and other regions can be traced in large part to the failures of independent nationalism, the crushing by local and Western authorities of nationalist and socialist independence movements, and the continuing repression of majority populations.
For example, the major Palestinian nationalist and even the first of the militia organizations using terrorism were secular.
The Russian-backed Afghanistan government was secular and had much more equality for women, and we hired a bunch of fundamentalist warlord narco-trafficking terrorists to overthrow that state, and since then we’ve all reaped the benefits of our benevolent freedom-bringing.
Progress: my father wasn’t a particularly good farmer so eventually he joined the Gubblement and travelled the country advising farmers how to do their job better.
I wasn’t a particularly good bureaucrat so eventually I went contractor and now I advise bureaucrats on how to do their job better.
Cripes, I told people how to do their job/run their fascist corporation & I get fired.
Well, if you can’t do, teach/advise/consult, as the cliché says.
You may think you’re joking, but I recall plenty of post-11 September 2001 typing that indicated this was exactly the approach the Bushies took, which is why they ignored all warnings of trouble from terrorists.
They also put all their effort into making an SDI system, because of “rogue states”. Well, really because there were some republican businesses set to make a fucking fortune on that boondoggle, with the huge advantage of an endless series of future upgrades that could eventually give it the ability to maybe shoot down a missile that wasn’t sending out tracking information.
That was the only thing they cared about, because they figured any competent government could prevnt a major terrorist attack from being successful. Which was actually true.
Gavin, I’m not a fag or nothing, but if we ever meet I’m going to have to blow you silly. That’s the kind of genius you are.
Bring wine.
If we are going to argue whether this or that faith is predominately political or relegious, the only fair way to do it by getting rid of the tax exemption for all relegions. IMHO libertarianism is more of a relegion than Scientology or Unitarianism and less partisan than Evangelicalism for example.
Chris, I have only heard it in the last few months, around the time of the not mosque at not ground zero bullshit. This begs the question, are they liars or retards?
I’ve heard it for longer than that, but then I glance through PJM regularly (just to know what the crazies are saying) –
I suspect the reason it’s appeared in the last few months is because that’s when the whole “We Hate Islam” campaign came out in full. They need some completely bullshit excuse to justify it as something other than the racism it is – that’s what they hit upon.
I mean, sure, we expected him to make a few bipartisan gestures – every president does that. But he seems to have really expected, for far too long, that the Republicans would meet him reasonably and fairly and that they could, as you said, sit down together as rational adults and negotiate the best deal for the country –
Depressingly, I wonder if Obama’s been so ridiculously conciliatory on the belief that if he weren’t the media and opposition would paint him as a Scary Black Man– which they did anyway, but with a different tack (“He’s a scary Muslim Black Man!”).
El Cid said,
October 18, 2010 at 23:59
And I really, really, really dislike (envy) people who can type (Let alone think!) faster than I can hunt-&-peck, & then back it up w/ a buncha history & facts. Elitest!!
I just do that so I can burrow into the secret circles of the fascist librul elites and sow dissent from within.
Well M. Bouffant, if you weren’t off sipping a latte frapacino with nutmeg like some moonbat elitist faggity fag, perhaps you could have commented earlier.
OK then, Cid!!
Truly off topic: Opened McG’s Big Ho/Superman link, but haven’t gotten around to reading yet (if I ever do). Also got Tintin’s Twitlink to Althouse open. These are the only two unfamiliar, non-home page tabs I have open.
And every fifteen mins., there is a sound from the computer like thunder (Not that one, no one knows what he sounds like.) or an explosion. Anyone else noticed this? Or are most of you sensible enough not to leave tabs to EVIL open that long?
a latte frapacino with nutmeg*
Ralphs’ Private Selection Caramel Truffle Kaw-fee w/ raw sugar & 2% milk.
I already admitted I can’t type (or think too much) for shit, now you’re making up sissy coffee for me to drink? Oh, the shame.
*Used to put cinnamon, not nutmeg, in instant coffee. Now, I’m an urbane sophisticate, w/ one of those drippy filter things that go on the cup.
Randroid bitchslap on CSpan: Must watch T.V.
tags: Bad relationship revenge live on CSpan with the Pantload sitting next to you or serious libertarian philosophy discussion.
http://www.salon.com/books/political_books/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/10/18/cspan_book_discussion_awkward
“*Used to put cinnamon, not nutmeg, in instant coffee.”
The instant coffee makes it extra heterosexual which will cancel out any latent cinnamon or nutmeg homosexuality.
The fuck habits of two Yalies can’t be considered elitist can it?
Or “they” or whatever word suffices for plural fuck habits.
Premarital sex NOW say the cool conservatives!
“I’m Catholic!”
LMAO!!!
You rang?
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Catholic is more of a political ideology than a relegion so whatever. Who is this God Cathol that they worship anyways. I bet Allah can kick his or her ass.
You rang?
You Thundered?
gocart mozart said,
October 19, 2010 at 0:44
Catholic is more of a political ideology than a relegion so whatever. Who is this God Cathol that they worship anyways. I bet Allah can kick his or her ass.
BLASPHEMER!
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Hmm. I guess I did.
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“The fuck habits of two Yalies can’t be considered elitist can it?”
They want to make the rich richer and screw the poor just like Jesus* so its definetely populist and anti-elitist.
“It should be easier for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than a single mom to get food stamps.” Gospel of Ayn
‘Only a rich man can enter the kingdom of heaven.’ Heritage Foundation.
“You are not your brother’s keeper. Fuck him he’s a goddamn freeloader.” Republican Bible; Book of Ayn
“Suffer little children who come unto me. HA HA.”
“If your liberal enemy strikes you in the right cheek, turn and offer him the right one and when he’s not paying attention, kick him hard in the balls.” Republican Bible; Book of Coulter
should be “left cheek” second time.
‘Render unto Caesar? Rome can only grow if he stops taxing.’
Beware of Gar Alperovitz. He’s infamous for cherry-picking and distorting evidence. (Here’s a fairly polite critique of his methods)
Many, many years ago I read his Atomic Diplomacy and I found it completely convincing. I only slowly realized that I’d been conned, and I’m still pissed about it.
‘In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth. Free trade did the rest.’
“If your liberal enemy strikes you in the right cheek, turn and offer him the right one and when he’s not paying attention, kick him hard in the balls.” Republican Bible; Book of
CoulterLinda McMahon.To wit: http://wrestlingpronews.com/2010/07/29/wrestlingnews/wrestlingnews/video-linda-mcmahon-kicking-wwe-hall-of-famer-jim-ross-campaign-attacks-continue/
I should have thought of that M. Bouffant;)
“Whatever you do to the least of my brothers may result in a slightly higher marginal tax right so I must advise against it”
God has given us those fifteen –
Oy.
Ten! Ten commandments for all to obey!!!
The better link I posted consists of debates from a few mailing lists including H-diplo, and Bonnett’s points are, if not refuted in the land of hypotheticals, at least dealt with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3WcjtLjy-8&
Will Linda McMahan create more of these kinda jobs? It may fix this flacid recovery. NSFW
The Russian-backed Afghanistan government was secular and had much more equality for women
but but but Commies! Oppression! Freedom fighters!
Alperovitz’ interpretation of the atomic bomb use as almost entirely motivated by political objectives rather than military necessity certainly has a lot of problems, but neither it is dismissed by some consensus of historians, either. (A 2009 review of the scholarly debate here [PDF].)
OMFG I just read the Bitefart’s article on Superman.
Leftists hate it! Why? Because I said so!
Christ, and this presumably earned someone money for writing?
I hate baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet.
The Russian-backed Afghanistan government was secular and had much more equality for women
but but but Commies! Oppression! Freedom fighters!
The PDPA (People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan) was, in fairness, hardly a popular government. They gained power in a military coup, ruled as an authoritarian regime that tolerated little opposition or dissent, and were quite out of touch with the overall Afghan population. A fair analogy might be the Shah of Iran, who was also an enlightened modernist in one sense and a dictatorial thug in another.
It really was the mirror image of Vietnam. As in Vietnam, foreign powers played a part in stirring up the opposition and helping them stay afloat throughout the war. As in Vietnam, though, the existing government had little real legitimacy, widespread opposition already existed and rebellion was probably inevitable.
earned someone money for writing?
When Prelutsky was sent packing from Clownhall, he revealed they paid him $20-25 per spew. Then he went to Big Ho, & I don’t remember if he revealed his pay rate there. (Knowledge gleaned from The House of Substance.)
I’d suspect that most of the knee-jerk reactionaries (also most of US!) we see published on the web are freebies, or very close to it, except for Dough-Bob, Douchehat, K-Lo & the like who are actually employed more or less full-time by their enablers.
I hate baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet.
E-Z for a Canucki to say.
I hate Truth, Justice & The American Way. Top that!!
And Chevrolets are for people who can’t afford Cadillacs. Of course you hate them.
I never claimed it. However, it simply was a more stable government and more developed nation state under that regime than the chaos warlord hell we hired.
Likewise (but to a far lesser degree), the nation-state under the murderous tyrant Saddam was simply better for the majority of its citizens than the chaos of a collapsed nation-state left behind. It was a secular state, one which did not spawn terrorist connections across the region. Its infrastructure was far more developed than most of its neighbors. Women had education, and medical care was quite advanced. Just don’t be a Kurd trying to gain independence, or a Marsh Arab rising up in a US-encouraged revolt. With luck, eventually Saddam would have died and an Iraqi nation-state would still exist.
The Shah was a murderous tyrant, as was Pinochet, but I sure as hell wouldn’t have supported paying fundamentalist narco-trafficking warlord terrorists to blow up the regime and leave a semi-state pile of shit in the ruins.
I have no idea why everyone feels pressed to point out that the PDPA was far from perfect when it is compared to the fundamentalist civil war narco-trafficking succeeded by Taliban hell its violent overthrow by US-Pakistani-Saudi forces left behind.
Not to mention the US would have been better off without a series of warlord and Taliban governments in Afghanistan. The US as in me.
Of course, in Vietnam it shouldn’t simply have been the Soviets backing the nationalist communist forces under Ho Chi Minh, the entire world should have been backing throwing the US out. In my fantasies of the extra-terrestrial time-traveler controlled world, of course. In such a world the French and the Americans would have been thrown out of Vietnam after WWII at the latest.
So, again, yeah, giving me the choice of whether to leave the Soviets with their non-profitable parasitic client state running Afghanistan, or hire an army of fundamentalist terrorists to tear that nation-state apart in order to install a bunch of Pakistani-Saudi aligned warlord freaks instead? Yes, I’d have recommended not doing the latter.
Not to mention the US would have been better off without a series of warlord and Taliban governments in Afghanistan. The US as in me.
Say what you will, the current set-up is advantageous to me, ‘cuz I likes my hair-oin cheep!!
If heroin keeps people indoors looking at their shoes I’m all for it.
Or toes? Not everyone is so bourgeois as to wear “shoes.”
Shoes were, I think, were the eyeball targets of WS Burroughs at some point in Morocco. Somewhere in my hazy memory I recall some complaint about the most useless question an interviewer ever asked him and “What kind of shoes were you wearing then?” was the answer.
What if they’d been sandals, though?
Not as if I actually need heroin to keep me inside shoegazing at a 15″ devil-box screen 18 hrs. a day.
EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. Steely Dan would have been called The Groove Hippies, for instance, and then there’d just be no excuse to keep liking them.
And here we come back to free market Jesus.
Don’t get me started. There’s never been a reason to like Steely Dan (the “band”) anyway.
OT, but bothering me greatly: if baseball is the great conservative American sport, why do they suck at it so bad? In every playoff matchup this year, the more liberal city has won. This was true last year as well. For as long as Obama has been president, the more liberal team has won every MLB series, and only 3/16 teams to make the playoffs under his administration have been from conservative cities.
The final 4 teams in the MLB playoffs this year are New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Dallas (which ain’t exactly liberal, but ain’t exactly Houston — they came close to electing an openly gay mayor last year.)
Clearly this proves we need to keep the Bush tax cuts in place, or baseball will be destroyed.
I need to get back to spending more time here, anyone know where I left my brain?
Also, Derek’s obsession with the gay makes me think Shoelimpy and Annie Angel broke up.
Gary Ruppert! You old registered sex offender, you!
S’matter? Escaton a little too hot for you?
http://img.skitch.com/20101019-rmiwygw71nudj43c27fp8947aj.jpg
Also, Derek’s obsession with the gay makes me think Shoelimpy and Annie Angel broke up.
Which one was Annie?
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Well, it’s not as if convicted political criminal Steinbrenner was left-wing. Or Texass figurehead/owner Nolan Ryan, I think. Not to mention W(orst) Bush.
My big problem is deciding whether the Giants should beat Texass or the Yanks in the Series.
Better that Tejas should keep the Yanks out of the Series entirely, I s’pose.
Hey, problem solved. Thanks!
Other proof of gawd’s non-existence:
A family-owned & operated religious empire in bankruptcy.
Ha ha, fuck them!
Bouffant, your link-fail is spoiling my schadenfreude. UNLESS THIS IS YOUR SCHADENFREUDE.
Shorter male conservative bloggers: Meghan McCain’s big boobs are making her too liberal.
Goat that killed Wash. hiker known as aggressive
Aggressive? AGGRESSIVE? Who was in whose living room? Huh?
St. Nick on a stick, GIVE GUBS [Actual typo!] TO THE ANIMALS ALREADY! How can they protect themselves from trespassing humans? What has happened to private property rights in this country?
Can’t type, can’t link, why is it so dark & cold in here …
Sorry.
P.S.: Brought to my attention by Breitbart’s Twit.
Oh Danny boy . . .
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/10/odonnell-camp-responds-to-meggie-big-mac-mccain.html
“Christine O’Donnell won her party’s nomination and is fully qualified to serve in the Senate per our Constitution. On the other hand, this self-indulgent set of mega-breasts doesn’t belong anywhere near a TV studio commenting on anything. But not even stupidity can stop her given who daddy is.”
M., just remember that the Texas Rangers play in the House That Bush Built, and which became the foundation of the “successful” phase of his political career. Every team in the MLB is owned by assholes, but not every team directly contributed to the eventual collapse of western civilization.
Also, inre: a Giants/Yanks WS, well, those who do not learn from history are fated to repeat it.
ittdgy- I don’t think it was either of them, that would require them to have actually done something.
I seem to remember that even LeMay was concerned that if we were to lose, he’d be prosecuted for war crimes for his bombing the fuck out of the cities of Japan. You don’t worry about that without at least some recognition that the charges could be right.
In the movie The Fog of War, McNamara notes that “if we’d have lost the war, we’d all be tried for war crimes!”
The victors really do get to write history, but there’s an excellent argument to be made that we would indeed have had a bloody, protracted siege of the home islands without a Japanese surrender. And that surrender wouldn’t have happened with H and N.
Aren’t Meghan McCain’s tits, although nice, about average size. Maybe Dan Riehl is used to exclusively dating people with a more school-boyish physique.
Yum yum, good schadenfreude. I used to watch Schuller with amazement, even though he had one of the weaker messages of the bible-thumpers. How could people believe that grinning dummy?
(which ain’t exactly liberal, but ain’t exactly Houston — they came close to electing an openly gay mayor last year.)
Uh, Houston already has a gay mayor. Annise Parker.
The Texas stadium is in Arlington, also. Isn’t that Oily Joe’s congressional district? Good thing I hate the Yankees even more.
Well, imagining that the bomb does not drop and the invasion has to proceed in the bloody way it was imagined, soldiers are dying as opposed to non-combatants.
But not even stupidity can stop her given who daddy is.”
Replace her with “his/her” and you’ve got the whole damn Republican party.
Also, inre: a Giants/Yanks WS, well, those who do not learn from history are fated to repeat it.
Are you trying to say that 1962 has anything to do w/ 2010? What about 1981? Should the Diodgers have conceded the Series because the Yanks beat ’em in ‘7X?
There is no history in baseball! (Lots of crying, though.)
And there was a Bush dig in there.
How could people believe that grinning
dummyvent figure?Yeah. Maybe the Cathedral isn’t doing so well because the familial/corporate style didn’t use as much damn fear & political whatnot as the Religious Right.
Aren’t Meghan McCain’s tits, although nice, about average size
Well they aren’t ludicrously huge, but I’d guess she’s a D-cup which puts her somewhere around mu plus two sigma.
Oh and all sorts of other insightful and witty stuff about all the wonderous topics being discussed right now.
BOOBIES!
The guy in that video trashing his ex girlfriend while the Pantload laughs is Todd Seavey who has been the subject of Tintin’s mockery here before and is easily in my top 5 wingnuts of all time. He might even be my favorite ever. His public airing of his romantic cluelessness is what puts him above regular wingnuts in my book. I was going to say in that old thread that he would be the wingnut most likely to attack his ex girlfriend’s reputation while participating with her in a panel discussion on C-Span but changed my mind because I decided he’d be very unlikely to ever wind up on C-Span or get a girlfriend to be dumped by in the first place. I was wrong. Be fair, though, how could I have ever imagined the existence of that woman he’s trashing and why would I try?
Oh and, nice to see Gavin around here.
Again, why an invasion (or duck)?
I’ll repeat: (Loudly, & in the “explaining” voice”): ISLAND NATION, FEW RESOURCES, BLOCKADE by the mightiest armada ever. Worst case scenario, kamikaze attacks against the blockade force. (Which probably would’ve involved my father, but he was in ’til 1947 anyway, so whatever.)
Also: Which of the fucking TBS announcers sounds like James Woods? He’s creeping me out.
gocart m. has been brainwashed by the sexual/industrial/patriarchal/you-name-it complex about average breast size.
Because only A would bring C without B. There are no more letters in the English alphabet and there can be no A-and-a-half.
At the risk of talking about something other than BOOBIES, here’s another thought about Imperial Japan circa 1945.
How about this – no A-bomb, no invasion, no blockade even. Just pretend like Japan doesn’t exist anymore – rally the world in declaring the nation a pariah state until it surrenders. Her military forces were pretty much finished at that time and her list of allies was down to the people in the same room as the military high command. Her entire potential to due harm to others lay only in resisting being invaded. So you don’t do that. Instead move forward to the messy business of rebuilding all the shit that got strategically bombed back to the Middle Ages.
On the minus side, no Godzilla movies.
I haven’t followed the links that have been posted here on the subject of Japan and the A-bombs and maybe they cover the subject but I don’t think it’s controversial to state that the Japanese were signaling their willingness to surrender before the bombs were dropped. They wanted a conditional surrender that included keeping the emperor as a head of state and not a figurehead and I think it’s crazy to say that those conditions were worth nuking them over, nor do I think that the US dropped the bombs because of those conditions. They weren’t worth invading Japan over either so the rationale that is always given for dropping the bombs, that 500,000 Americans would have died (it would have been a lot but that number was just pulled out of someone’s ass in 1945) in an invasion of Japan is bogus. Neither the dropping of atomic bombs or invasion were necessary to defeat Japan. They were a wrecked country at that point and no longer a threat to anyone.
They were a wrecked country at that point and no longer a threat to anyone.
Sure. But you haven’t addressed the main point.
No A-Bombs, no Godzilla movies.
Gee, my father served in Vietnam, a radioman who was sent home after he tool a shell in the radio. My grandfathers all missed active duty: One had some medical waiver, another was a technician, and the last was training to be a bombardier, but only ever bombed a billboard in Eastern Washington.
You guys must be old geezers to have had dads in the war o-o
“gocart m. has been brainwashed by the sexual/industrial/patriarchal/you-name-it complex about average breast size.”
Next you are gonna say Miss October’s aint real. Have you no sense of decency sir at long last!
He could have been some fire and chemical combination.
Next you are gonna say Miss October’s aint real. Have you no sense of decency sir at long last!
Funny story.
As a forgiving type, I’m pretty much w/ His Majesty on that one. We bypassed their biggest Pacific naval base, Truk, for example, though it was roundly attacked.
And there probably would’ve had to be some kind of blockade, if only to keep glibertarians, Rotary Club members & other scum from trying to make a buck by selling shit to the pariah nation.
And many think they was an element of “Looky here, Soviet Commies!!” involved in the nook-yuh-luhr bombing too.
If there’s no history in baseball then why all the Yankee hatin? Big George is dead, let’s move on.
*removes tongue from cheek*
If the Giants had a real team apart from 2 and a half starting pitchers and their rookie catcher, then maybe the past wouldn’t be relevant, but when you’re counting on Aubrey Huff, Freddy Sanchez, and Pat Burrell…
No A-Bombs, no Godzilla
movies. Period.Accuracy in Media.
Who just fucking won & has a 2-1 advantage, East Coaster?
Back on topic . . . Who has bigger tits, Meghan McCain or Rush Limbaugh?
Won what?
Who has bigger tits, Meghan McCain or Rush Limbaugh?
I gotta say that Rush is the bigger boob.
During the campaign, McCainBlogette struck me as some pretty darned vapid dumb, with occasional outbursts (heh BOOBIES) of actual humanity. If the future of the GOP is like Meghan – pro-gay marriage, anti-tea party wackaloons, proud of her stunning rack – that’s not bad. I mean sure she’s still reflexively pro-authority and more supportive of the establishment than her custom undergarments are of her – but she’s far and away better than Big Pharma or just about anyone that makes the list of “the future of the Republican Party”.
Texas did, sadly, behind one of the 2-3 best pitchers in the game today. Unless you’re the Mariners, having one of them starting for you makes your team as good as any other in the bigs on that day.
The NLCS, however, is still 1-1.
Yanks (In the broader, nat’l. sense) only conversation. Sorry.
For that matter, the Titans just beat the Jaguars (as expected in a clash of mythological figures vs. sneaky but over-matched animals).
“Who just fucking won & has a 2-1 advantage, East Coaster?”
Latte sipping championship dumbass! Keep it up Substance and we’ll revoke your liberal elitist club membership and welfare checks and also repossess your limosine and arugula. Then what will you do.
Cliff Lee is an elitist for not letting the other team play too. Is this the so-called bipartisanship we were supposed to get from Obama?
Hay, easy on the stats & facts here. Like any music discussion, this is about hatred & disgust, an excuse to be extra-obnoxious about actually meaningless (but amusing) drivel. And to show how much we believe, wing-nut stylee.
NLCS will be over after three games by the bay. Mookbark it!!
THE PEOPLE TWEET!!!
Two boobs, one boob.
The album sold 11 million copies, not “100 ker-shmillion, godzillion-plus-infinity times ninety-nine with a hundred-billion zeroes after it” copies, as the article claimed, while few if any of its purchasers were unique.
Vintage Gavin.
Just wanted to add that Le May and Hap Arnold were convinced that all you needed to win wars was enough bombers. King and Halsey felt the same about the Navy & Marines. MacArthur is quoted as being against atom bombs, but he quickly asked (demanded) to use them against the dirty filthy Chicoms once they damaged his pretty Korean War.
Once the war ended, each service branch did their damnedest to choke the life out of their fellow services, in favor of themselves.
As for the US Army, as Dave Hackworth observed many times, “The main watchword of the US Army is CRS – Can’t Remember Shit”. Even worse – they REFUSE to remember. Any photo of Vietnam-era APCs shows them literally festooned with gun shields and M-60s. How MANY YEARS DID IT TAKE IN IRAQ TO GET SIMPLE @%$%#$* GUNSHIELDS??
Instead we had pfcs sitting in sunroofs on humvees. Jesus fucking Christ.
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“Bomb ’em back to the Stone Age!!’
Well, they had ’em and they used ’em on Tokyo. What if another firestorm had been tried in Hiroshima and they waited until August 13 to try another?
Meghan McCain is wrong about Christine O’Donnell being a joke because she won a primary, so that automatically means you can’t be crazy or anything.
Anyway, O’Donnell can’t be any of those bad things, because she’s you.
In discussing why the A-bombs were used in Japan, there is a difference between arguing about what the reasons should or shouldn’t have been to do so and arguing about what the evidence suggests about what the decisionmakers thought and why.
For example, it may not sound too nice, but one of the reasons that seem to hold up with available evidence for Truman dropping the bomb is that no one really seemed to strongly hold that there were any reasons not to use them.
Plus, there they were, we had ’em, and we had spent all this money, and people expected us to do something, and so on and so forth.
You can certainly make all sorts of arguments about what might have happened had they not been used, but this doesn’t mean that those deciding to drop the bombs were mainly deciding upon those same lines of supposition. Maybe they were, but that’s a historical argument based on what policymakers said and did.
Just wanted to add that Le May and Hap Arnold were convinced that all you needed to win wars was enough bombers.
You can add Sir Arthur Harris to that lot. Harris and Arnold actually thought that the Normandy invasion was unnecessary because their bombing campaign was going to defeat Germany any day now.
I recently watched a BBC documentary pointing out that had French military seriously considered the signals they had been receiving that Germany could actually invade them through the Ardennes, or some other such thing about the French and their understanding of the utility of that forest which they thought had been fairly impenetrable, the war might have been put to a stop right there.
It might also have helped if the US and Britain hadn’t blockaded Republican Spain from getting help such as arms and funds from abroad, and thus handing Mussolini and Hitler one of their first great victories.
But, you know, it’s better to let fascists take over a country than play nice with socialists and communists.
And for your enjoyment, the audio version of gunfire in the Battle of France. Or the sound of the Declaration of Independence being signed.
And what was Sir Arfur’s nickname, again?
“BOMBER.”
Yes, I can see the similarity now. Daltrey rules and Ms.Geller is less talented and less useful than Mrs Cat’s arse
From M. Bouffant’s PuffHost link:
I am impressed how the reality has been constructed in which mean liberals are calling someone a witch, forcing her to issue constant denials; rather than only one person calling her a witch, i.e. herself.
Yes, but does Mrs Cat’s arse have its own website yet?
I’m sorry, MILF? On her best day, Pammycakes is a Sort Of Want. And that’s only before you find out what a raving lunatic she is.
Well, it wouldn’t have been pretty. I’ve talked to witnesses of the Tokyo Firebombings, and they mention how all the park spaces were used to pile up the dead, after they fished the bodies out of the canals/rivers. Especially in the Asakusa area.
One “problem” would have been that after the firestorms, there wasn’t much of anything left, burnable or otherwise.
Having stood next to Pammycakes back at the first Tea Party in NYC, I can definitively state she is not a milf, unless you think the idea of a female Yoda is hawt, or were into the female Gremlin in the sequel.
And obviously me stating that means I think she is worth less as a person.
Are the comments here still patrolled for lookism?
I’m sorry, MILF? On her best day, Pammycakes is a Sort Of Want.
In my day, we used to rate based on either how many drinks or what time on the clock we’d consider her.
Up to midnight (inclusive) was good, because it meant plenty of time to meet, talk, go grab a bite to eat before taking her to bed. Anytime after that started to careen into desperation.
Pammy’s like a 2AMer. Maybe 1 if she’s dressed up a bit and doesn’t open her yap where you can actually hear her.
By contrast, K-Lo is a “sometime next week, but only if the Apocalypse occurs and I’m already dead”
Aren’t Meghan McCain’s tits, although nice, about average size.
She always reminded me of a chunky Reese Witherspoon…
Chapter Eleven!
The drummer, an eighty-five year old man with coke-bottle glasses, plays a perfectly executed rim shot. The audience is laughing. One man in the audience is explaining the joke to his friend, who was already laughing. It is perfect. I loosen my tie, take another sip of slivovitz.
I remember it was one night, it was in summer, and the doors were open because it was so hot. “My credit card was stolen last week. I haven’t reported it yet — the thieves are spending less than my wife did”. Ba-DUM, and a quick spray of seltzer. It was my night! I owned these people.