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The new socialism

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Comments: 109

 
 
 

From each according to his carbon footprint, to each according to how badly geography has screwed him and/or her.

 
 

I love the irony that a Darwinian Capitalist Cheerleader, in this case a horrid little troll, who, if it were not for Starboard Fringe Welfare, would be panhandling for his next meal.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I can’t believe I read it all. I’m going to go throw up now.

 
 

You can get onto Beck’s show just by screaming socialism without ever admitting that you are a complete wingnut welfare screaming queen? Where do I sign up!

Socialism socialism socialism!

Do I now have to link to the Washington Times exclusively until my invitation?

 
 

Why doesn’t the private sector raise wages and salaries to match the federal employees? Why does the private sector hate capitalism so much?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

So we always hear from libs about how horribly overpaid productive and successful people in the private sector are paid

We do? That’s news to me.

 
 

(signs petitions for new laws mandating wage increases for private sector employees)

(signs petitions for new laws mandating that America-hating wingnuts CRY MOAR)

 
 

Yuh-huh.

When federal employees start raking in multimillion-dollar bonuses we’ll talk.

 
 

Where’s the Outrage? said,

December 11, 2009 at 18:42

I apparently can’t read the entire article, or I would have comprehended it better instead of just jerking my knee like a moron.
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Key reasons for the boom in six-figure salaries:

• Pay hikes. Then-president Bush recommended — and Congress approved — across-the-board raises of 3% in January 2008 and 3.9% in January 2009. President Obama has recommended 2% pay raises in January 2010, the smallest since 1975. Most federal workers also get longevity pay hikes — called steps — that average 1.5% per year.

•New pay system. Congress created a new National Security Pay Scale for the Defense Department to reward merit, in addition to the across-the-board increases. The merit raises, which started in January 2008, were larger than expected and rewarded high-ranking employees. In October, Congress voted to end the new pay scale by 2012.

• Paycaps eased. Many top civil servants are prohibited from making more than an agency’s leader. But if Congress lifts the boss’ salary, others get raises, too. When the Federal Aviation Administration chief’s salary rose, nearly 1,700 employees’ had their salaries lifted above $170,000, too.

Also, shut up.

 
 

Remember all the outrage over CEO bonuses and profits?

I thought you said productive and successful people.

 
 

Troofie:

Where’s the drive to CUT the pay of federal employees until it is in line with the private sector?

Troofie’s article:

“federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs.”

QED Fuck off, fucknut.

 
 

I’d actually love to see Krauthammer on Beck’s show. Krauthammer’s a near immobile stiff, and I’d love to see his reactions when Beck went into his mad twitching, weeping convulsions.

 
 

So we always hear from libs about how horribly overpaid productive and successful people in the private sector are paid

We do? That’s news to me.

Using my secret wingnut asshole decoder ring: “productive and successful people in the private sector” = Goldman Sachs management. Yes, liberals do talk about how overpaid those leeches are. We also define “productive and successful” as “having actually produced something other than bank failures.”

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Remember all the outrage over CEO bonuses and profits?

No, dear. You said “productive.”

 
 

Funny how if you read the article, most of those are in the Defense Department. I thought right wingers were all about the Defense Department?

 
 

My god … it escaped from the other thread! The attempts to contain it there have failed!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Andrew N.P. said,

December 11, 2009 at 18:48

Well, shit. I should refresh before posting.

 
 

I’m a rageaholic moron who has no respect for the facts, or history, and I run around cherrypicking things to lose my mind over and then shriek at sensible people that they aren’t sufficiently loony like me, then I drool on myself and try to wipe the cheetos flakes off my fingers so I can leave Mom’s basement again but she keeps the door locked because I’m a good boy I’m a good boy I’m a good boy.

 
Where's the Poutrage?
 

I will clutch pearls and fap violently while thinking about how to deal with figures which amount to rounding errors in the federal budget.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Yes, liberals do talk about how overpaid those leeches are.

Yeah, I thought a lot of people were pissed about that, not just liberals.

 
 

Umm, CEO bonuses and profits are not part of normal private sector employee wages.

If I recall correctly, and I canNOT be arsed to look this shit up for a troll, because I’ve got filing to do – the ratio of CEO pay to employees pay started increasing astronomically during Reagan’s misbegotten tenure, and has only gotten even more out of whack since then.

So trollios, for every dollar you make, your corporate overlords make what 600 bucks? 800?

Completely lopsided, and completely unlike that oh-so-wonderful post-war period.

Hey, if the private sector can’t pay their employees an appropriate wage AND make a profit, they shouldn’t be in business. Free Market, Invisible Hand, yadda yadda yadda.

 
Where's the Poutrage?
 

Salaries are theft!

 
 

Competitive wage scales in order to retain unique skillsets? Free market says no!

Pay cuts for federal employees reeks of socialism! Redistribution from poor federal workers to the lower class sounds like socialism to me. I have a link here about that from the Washington Times, somewhere…..

 
 

The first question of those in power should be this: how can we save taxpayer dollars?

Let’s see – defund the CIA and NSA, close the School of The Americas, shut down the Office of Faith-Based Initatives, cease research on nuclear weapons…

Wheee! This is easy!

 
 

So the poster who calls himself “where’s the outrage” wants to know why there’s so much outrage at bankers getting bonuses but not at civil servants for having middle class incomes.

Where’s the outrage, indeed.

 
 

Let’s see – defund the CIA and NSA, close the School of The Americas, shut down the Office of Faith-Based Initatives, cease research on nuclear weapons…

Wheee! This is easy!

End the wars!

 
 

Not going to bother getting into the details, but I can’t help noticing that Troofie’s premise is that private sector workers are underpaid. Troofie then directs his ire at lie-berals, as opposed to, you know, the private sector, which presumably sets its own pay scale.

“My bosses are screwing me over, and it’s all the lie-berals faults. What’s that? Oh, boss wants me to suck his dick again … back later, libs!”

 
 

They shouldn’t have an increase in their wages AT ALL in a recession, they should take a cut so the taxpayers save money.

wrong. You failed Intro to Econ, didn’t you dearie?

In a recession, available eages need to RISE; that money gets pumped back into the economy through food and Christmas presents, thus creating demand which creates more jobs, which creates more wages, more demand, and incidentally, more revenue with which to further enhance job production. As well as to pay down debt.

Reducing wages will merely further retard recovery, chucklenuts. Of course, that’s what your masters at Goldman Sachs want….

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

“My bosses are screwing me over, and it’s all the lie-berals faults. What’s that? Oh, boss wants me to suck his dick again … back later, libs!”

The conservative mindset in a nutshell, really.

 
 

The first question of those in power should be this: how can we save taxpayer dollars?

from the right wing, the answer to this question seems to be “Make sure most of them are unemployed.”

 
 

laym, nicely done. I tried to work a dick-sucking angle into my comment, but it didn’t flow….

 
 

Does this mean that the EPA has supplanted the UN in wingnut nightmares? With green helmets and helicopters that run on used french-fry oil?

 
 

So the poster who calls himself “where’s the outrage” wants to know why there’s so much outrage at bankers getting bonuses but not at civil servants for having middle class incomes.

Yeah but bankers had contracts, sacrosanct sweet splendid and inviolable private sector contracts. Like the impossible to understand mortgages they chained to the rubes are sacrosanct sweet splendid and totally immune from cramdowns… Federal employees, however, must eat poop because they have filthy rotten public sector contracts.

See?

 
 

I wonder what industries they’re averaging to get that $40,331 number for the private sector.

 
 

My premise is that government leeches are overpaid.

Your premise has already been shown to be EPIC FAIL. Again.

You sure do fail a lot, Troofie.

 
 

So cabbagehammer thinks the US is still part of “the industrial west” and that we still have money?

What the hell is in his lollypop

 
Where's the Poutrage?
 

My premise is that evil strawmen suck ass.

 
 

laym, nicely done. I tried to work a dick-sucking angle into my comment, but it didn’t flow….

How about: the only “private sector” Troofie is really interested in here is the one in Krauthammer’s pants?

 
 

I wonder what industries they’re averaging to get that $40,331 number for the private sector.

Well, if you have a CEO earning $30,000,000 and 1000 employees making $10,000 each, it works out around there.

I know that’s a contrived an unrealistic example – CEO pay is much higher than that relative to employees’.

 
 

Oh, and I guess “earning” isn’t the right verb for the relationship between CEOs and the money they take home. Pardon.

 
 

“The NIEO’s essential demand was simple: to transfer fantastic chunks of wealth from the industrialized West to the Third World.”

After three hundred years of fantastic chunks of wealth being transferred from Asia, Africa and Latin America to the West quite against the will of the locals, God in heaven forbid that any form of reciprocity should be entertained.

“The idea of essentially taxing hardworking citizens of the democracies to fill the treasuries of Third World kleptocracies”

It’s been a form of intellectual masturbation among conservatives for forty years to talk about how hard-working “their” people are and how lazy and greedy “these people” are. Gave us the fictional stories of black welfare queens driving Cadillacs that propelled Nixon and Reagan to power. Nice to know that even in 2009, white backlash is still the fuel driving the conservative intellectual engine.

“went nowhere, thanks mainly to Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher (and the debt crisis of the early ’80s). They put a stake through the enterprise.”

Another one of their gifts to the third world was to push through the Washington Consensus, a plan that was supposed to promote growth in the third world through aggressive privatization. The results were disastrous – a few well-placed people got very rich very quickly, while the countries continued to stagnate, their average citizens now paying more money for worse or no quality of basic services. The myth of efficiency being inherent in the private sector is what needs a stake driven through it. (Again).

“So we always hear from libs about how horribly overpaid productive and successful people in the private sector are paid, but it turns out the typical federal employee makes $30,000 more on average than the typical private sector employee. And they’re parasitic bureaucrats using OUR TAX MONEY to line their pockets. So where’s the liberal outrage? Where’s the drive to CUT the pay of federal employees until it is in line with the private sector?”

Probably because the average government agency actually takes care of its employees in a way that the average private corporation hasn’t done in about thirty years (thanks Reagan for being the best friend the union-busters of America ever had). Also, I wasn’t aware that our troops were considered “parasitic bureaucrats” by conservatives now.

 
 

No more addition non-defense spending, on anything.

was that real troll, or fake troll?

i get so confused by their lack of sense…

 
 

what we really need is to stop sending more money to red states than they pay….

what we really need is to cut our defense spending back to something reasonable, and bring home the cannon fodder from our wars of choice.

What we really need is to restore the tax rates of the 50s…

what we really need is to treat white collar criminals the same as we do violent criminals, except in proportion to the dollars involved…. convert the currency to, ummm….current…. and run it through their genitalia.

 
 

umm, wait, I just got another idea for the Wingnut Processor…gotta go sketch this out.

 
 

Look, troll. Against by better judgment, I’m going to try to lay down some Econ 101 for you.

We are in a RECESSION. Recessions are caused by a LACK OF MONEY. The way to STOP a recession is for people to START SPENDING again. So, why does it make ANY SENSE to TAKE AWAY MORE MONEY from consumers?

As for Krauty-poo, it seems like there’s a “new socialism” to worry about every month, whether it’s trying to make sure Wall Street doesn’t ass-rape the economy again, or trying to prevent the health care industry from killing people. Of course, this would imply that there is an “Old socialism” in America, which I’m pretty sure there wasn’t at any point in Kraut’s lifetime.

 
 

My dog is growling at the computer again.

 
 

My dog is covering her nose with her paws and whimpering, and she’s no delicate flower – her favorite snack is fresh cat shit.

 
 

umm, wait, I just got another idea for the Wingnut Processor…gotta go sketch this out.

Just electrify the bowling balls.

 
 

her favorite snack is fresh cat shit.

Isn’t Kitty Rocca (fresh from the litter box) every dog’s favorite treat?

And yes, more than a few Wingnuts, too.

 
 

The ratio of CEO pay to employees pay started increasing astronomically during Reagan’s misbegotten tenure, and has only gotten even more out of whack since then.

It’s way out of whack, as this study shows (PDF):

Wealth is distributed much more unequally [in the U.S.] than income: the top 1% control some 25-33% of total net worth and the top 10% hold 71%. For comparison, the top 10% have 28% of total income.

In other words, the top 10% of rich folks in the U.S. only actually “earn” 28% of all income, yet hold 71% of all wealth.

Of course, conservatives always tell us how unfairly taxed the top brackets are and that all that money will trickle down eventually because … well … SHUT UP THAT’S WHY!!

Sadly, money isn’t what the rich are trickling down upon the rest of America …

 
 

And here’s a dandy chart that shows real wages for the upper brackets has increased some 256%.

The rest of us? Just 21%.

But, hey, that’s GOP economic policy in a nutshell: Talk about how much you love the common man, all while stealing money from that man’s pocket to give to the rich.

Fucking assholes.

 
 

Exactly, we shouldn’t be taking away money from consumers, which means we need to cut taxes so rich people will spend the money rather than having it confiscated by government fiat and used to run useless boondoggles the social services upon which they depend, because tax cuts for the rich make them shower golden monies down upon us in torrents unimagined.

Seriously, you’re still dragging the carcass of Laffer around with you?

 
 

We don’t steal from anybody, we let the rich keep their earned wealth and provide oppourtunnity for other people to join the rich through hard work and talent go bankrupt after their jobs are outsourced to third-world slave labor.

Fixed!

 
 

Yawn. Another right winger who thinks he invented the fucking work ethic.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Good god, this one is tedious, isn’t he?

 
 

Back to the “old socialism” for a bit: I imagine Kauthammer draws social security disability, so that kind of socialism is ok.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

My premise is that government leeches are overpaid.

Government health care doesn’t cover leeches- this is central to my point!

 
Where's the Poutrage because I need something to justify my "Fuck the Poor!" attitude
 

Those in the top 10% of income deserve to keep more of their money than the bottom 90% COMBINED because rich people are better than everyone else. Besides, no one in that bottom 90% has ever worked hard ever a single day in their lives, otherwise they’d be rich too. Only rich people work hard. And I will completely ignore the fact that the top 10% only actually earn 28% of the income, yet manage to somehow have 70+% of the wealth, because I’m too fucking stupid to understand basic math.

 
 

Corporations staff based on projected demand for their product.

You can cut Ford’s taxes till the cows come home, but they’re not going to build even more inventory that’s just going to sit on the dealer’s lot unsold just because you gave them a tax break.

You may not like it, but that’s how the world works.

 
Where's The Buttplug?
 

More pointless mega-bonuses & salaries up to (& over) $200 million per annum for CEOs who screw the pooch & wreck the economy?

Even more precious capital wasted on an already pathologically hypertrophic Pentagon corporate hog-trough, despite the magnificent natural defense-shield of two oceans & the blessing of zero hostile neighbors?

Hacking middle-class-level public-sector wages in a recession, even though common sense tells us to do the exact opposite?

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

 
 

The dog is now circling and barking at the computer.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Where’s the drive to CUT the pay of federal employees until it is in line with the private sector?

So, basically, the troll is advocating an even quicker race to the bottom.

 
 

Pouty is on to something when he says that rich people create jobs.

Just not here. Now. The wealth is assuredly trickling down as we speak. Do not question it, citizen.

Nice use of the “racist” argument after all your economic arguments were ground into dust, troll. I can’t be bothered to remember all your nyms, but I’m sure one of them was at some point bitching about how liberals hate white people and want to make minorities rule the world at white people’s expense. Yet here we are, with you accusing someone else of being racist. Takes balls, and a complete lack of self-awareness.

 
 

Where’s the Outrage? said,

December 11, 2009 at 20:29 (kill)

The more you tax corporations and wealthy individuals, the less money they will have, which means they will cut back the amount they use to hire workers, and pocket the difference. You may not like it, but that’s how the world works.

Yet that was precisely the situation in the ’50s, a time most self-professed conservatives want to go back to. Tax rates are far lower now than during Ike’s administration.

Sorry, but history proves you quite wrong.

Besides, thinking that economics is that simplistic is the same kind of mindset that led to the “planned economies” of the Communists. Get thee behind me, Marxist!

And stop whining about the price of government services, you spoiled brat.

 
 

No poor man ever hired anybody or created any jobs. The “rich” you hate so much do just that.

And no tax cut of any Republican has ever been demonstrated to have caused the wealthy to create jobs. In fact, every net new job created in Bush’s tenure (which didn’t create a positive job number until after his first term, as I recall) has now been lost. Those rich folks have been taking their tax cuts, taking their tax cuts, taking their tax cuts.

I don’t know what we’re supposed to be getting in return, but the evidence is obvious, Doofus. We actually aren’t getting anything. Wealthy people have taken their tax cuts offered with no strings attached and promptly shipped our jobs overseas. I don’t know what fucking fantasy world you live in, but obviously you don’t work for a living or you’d know it’s been fucking difficult to find a job in America for, oh, about the last 8 fucking years.

Analysis: We tried it your way. Now fuck you. We’ll do it our way. We know it works. 1945-1979 were some pretty fucking good years all told.

 
 

The “rich” you hate so much do just that.

not lately, they haven’t.

And before you get all TAXES TAXES TAXES, the rich’s taxes are lower than they have ever been.

And no, you’re not rich troof-doof, and never will be. So the rich are laughing at you while they wipe their ass with profits you made for them.

 
 

wait, Troofy thinks AIRPLANE MECHANICS are gonna get rich if another trust-fund asshole buys another private jet?

BWA -HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

 
 

It wants to keep Defense Department corporate welfare going strong, so it must have a small wee-wee, poor dear.

 
 

Also, Republicans are awesome at losing jobs at a state level. I’m sure Gov. Goodhair can look forward to facing the electorate and explaining why he fucking forgot about 10,000 jobs in his state and let the contract slip away to another state.

What was that about Republicans creating a business environment that people will just naturally flock to? Haven’t we heard that about six quadrillion times shouted in our ears through 10,000 decibel bullhorns?

I guess actually doing so would require a Republican to work and pay the fuck attention to what his job is. Unfortunately, the Republican party today is comprised of people who have no clue what work is or how to do it, and no concept of personal responsibility, and no concept of leadership, which is why the Republican Party is such a catastrophic failure.

Governor Doyle of Winsconsin is a Democrat. He’s just created 10,000 jobs for his state. I’m sure his constituents, especially the ones with newly-minted jobs, will remember in the upcoming elections. Once again, Republican Failure stinks up a state.

 
 

No poor man ever hired anybody or created any jobs.

WRONGO, CHUMBUCKET. poor people spend the money they do get, creating demands for products and services, which create jobs. And historical data shows that as an aggregate, they do a damn sight better at it than rich fucks.

 
 

Is Stupid Troll so fucking stupid that he thinks Bill Gates pays every Microsoft employee’s salary out of Gates’ own bank account?

I would, however, like to thank Stupid Troll for reaffirming my belief in compulsory economics education.

Given how many dumbasses like him are willing to blame all their ills on liberals and/or the evil gubmint — yet who continually vote for the people who have financially ass raped them for the past 30 years — that really needs to happen. Soon.

 
 

Get off your ass and look for work, and stop whining.

Pass the math test yet?

 
 

If we’re supposed to let people keep what they earn, how come tax rates on investment income is so much less than on earned income? And how come tax on inherited income, i.e. 100% earned by someone else, is zero.

The trolls like to talk about work ethic, but the people they most want to screw are those who actually work. For the government, say, or in a union. So if your grandaddy owned slaves, your family should be rich forever, but if you’re good at your job you should move to China. Conservative values, wot.

 
 

Looch, even if this one is not Paul Mant-whoosits, he has demonstrated through his laughable grasp of economics that he is unable to pass a putative math test.

 
 

“And before you get all TAXES TAXES TAXES, the rich’s taxes are lower than they have ever been.”

Good point.

I find it hilarious that the teabagger movement is coming out in hysterical force in the year 2009, of all times. The only major change in economic policy in the last thirty years has been a dramatic decrease in taxes (again, thanks Reagan). After their policies have led us to this disaster, suddenly they’re out in the streets pretending they never happened and screaming that more of the same is the solution.

No thanks. I’ll move to Somalia if I want a do-nothing government.

 
 

Looch, even if this one is not Paul Mant-whoosits, he has demonstrated through his laughable grasp of economics that he is unable to pass a putative math test.

True, true. He did jump right on it, though. If it had no meaning, why not just ignore it?

 
 

Look at Michigan and Detroit if you want to see the kind of business environment lib policies end up creating

That makes absolutely no sense. A clear case of the free market in action.

American car makers got sloppy, because for so long they were only game in town. Some upstarts came along and snagged their business. “Liberal policies” had jack shit to do with that.

Dude, you’re just throwing poop at this point. The stuff you say makes no sense at all.

 
 

We have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. That’s a fact. Maybe there wouldn’t be so much outsourcing if we cut it in half.

Horseshit. The published raw tax rate is 35%. However, the effective tax rate (after loopholes) is 18%, which is about the worldwide average. You’re playing word games again.

 
 

Get off your ass and look for work, and stop whining.

I fly night freight. In all weather. Sometimes in dangerous terrain.

I have to operate safely and legally at 4:00 AM when you’re practically holding your eyelids open to keep from falling asleep.

You’d cry for your mommy if you had to work my schedule for a week little boy.

 
 

Dude, you’re just throwing poop at this point.

At this point?

 
 

And if the government was so bad at running the economy, we’d be speaking German. Or Japanese. The government never had as much power over the economy as it did for the benefit of the war effort in 1941-1945. Guess what resulted? Not only did we win a war on two continent-wide fronts, we also came out of the Depression permanently. A “thank you” to FDR and to the Greatest Generation whom the right loves to idolize while spitting on everything they built and stood for.

 
 

We have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. That’s a fact.

That’s a lie.

[S]ome have argued that U.S. corporate tax rates unduly burden U.S. companies by pointing to the country’s top statutory tax rate, which is 35 percent. For example, a recent Wall Street Journal editorial calling for corporate tax cuts noted that this is the second highest top statutory tax rate among developed countries. While true, this gives the false impression that the corporate tax burden is greater here than in other developed countries. Because the U.S. tax code offers so many deductions, credits, and other mechanisms by which corporations can reduce their taxes, the actual percentage of profits that U.S. corporations pay in taxes — or what analysts refer to as their effective tax rate — is not high, compared to other developed countries.

Once again, Stupid Troll is too fucking stupid to understand the difference between “marginal” rates and “effective” rates.

 
 

If we cut the corporate tax rate, big business owners would spend that money on themselves, or open up a new plant somewhere in Asia, or find some new and even more destructive financial investments to stash it in.

Pouty, what you and people like you have to understand is that rich people don’t care about you. Workers are a necessary evil at best, and a drain on profit at worst. There is nothing more annoying to a corporate executive than going through the dreary business of having to provide jobs for real people, and the fact that they’ve gotten so many Americans to suck their cocks and beg for more is the best situation they could have hoped for.

 
Saint jim, Patron Saint of Bitchslapping
 

No poor man ever hired anybody or created any jobs.

Let’s just flip that tired old coin over, shall we?

No rich man ever got that way without MANY poor ones sweating & hurting like hell to put him there – be it directly or indirectly – & as it just so happens, that jolly little truism includes me & thee, numbnuts.

Convincing rubes like you that some day you too can get into the Big Boys’ Club is by far & away the sweetest scam of all time … because despite any amount of reality or reason, you just can’t stop wanting it more & more once you make yourself into their bitch. It won’t go away until you grow a pair & stick up for yourself instead of being the sockpuppet for a pack of human locusts who really do want it ALL, no matter who has to suffer or die for them to get it.

The people you’re defending think you’re even more of a clown than I do – & unlike me, they’ll gladly have you exterminated like lice, for a dollar – or a dime – the moment they can get away with it & turn a profit doing so.

Maybe you’re enough of a sick fuck to think that such morbid psychopathology makes them some kind of hot shit – congratulations, you’ve now got your very own case of Stockholm Syndrome.

You’ve failed here aplenty. Now please feel free to do so elsewhere.

You’re sad.

If I wanted sad, I’d go to 4chan & start a “You Cry, You Lose” thread.

 
 

Once again, Stupid Troll is too fucking stupid to understand the difference between “marginal” rates and “effective” rates shit and Shinola.

Tightened that up a bit.

 
 

Anything good is conservative. Anything bad is liberal.

Replace [anything good] and [anything bad] with policies and outcomes, regardless of facts or causation, or really, anything approaching any kind of sense.

Repeat.

 
 

I will begin praying to Saint Jim that someday I can become as good at bitchslapping. Amen.

 
 

Saint jim, Patron Saint of Bitchslapping said,

Gosh, I kinda tried to say something along those lines, but yours was honed to fine edge. Wish I’d said it.

Say, maybe if I NOM Jim’s branes….

 
 

We have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. That’s a fact. Maybe there wouldn’t be so much outsourcing if we cut it in half.

How would lowering corporate tax rates across the board change anything? Companies pay taxes on profit, i.e. revenue minus costs; reducing costs by outsourcing means they pay higher taxes under the current system and yet they still do it. A major reason they outsource is because they then don’t have to pay benefits like health insurance, which is a HUGE expense for every employee you have, both pushing down wages for those you do hire and pushing business to contractors and offshore. In other words, single-payer healthcare would have a much greater effect on outsourcing.

 
 

I just read two Matt Taibbi articles in a row. They put Troofie into a whole new perspective. He’s more sideshow geek (in the old-school definition of the word) than anything else. Spouting all the old ideology, while the oligarchs are probably thinking of buying his entire state and making it their own private gated community.

 
 

Thanks, Looch.

And fantastic job, Saint Jim — nothing worse than some clown defending a bunch of people who were born on third, yet are convinced they hit a triple.

 
 

Hmm.

Anyone else notice the undertone of severe angst in Chuckles’ little screed?

Remember one of Herr Trollenstein’s aliases? “ObamaCare Is Dead” I believe it was.

Come, let us LOL together for a moment.

Healthcare reform is already supposed to be dead. Not diluted. Not delayed. Kaput. Deceased. A former reform. Yet the thing lives on, & looks ever more like it’s a done deal.

Obama is set to succeed where even a Rhodes Scholar like Clinton got chumped.

Now climate change is next – & Obama has already made it crystal-clear to anybody who’s awake that he’s not exactly prone to fucking around – unlike the inbred prat he replaced, hard work is his oxygen.

If you think you’ve seen the worst of the GOP’s flopsweat, stick around, kids!

Methinks this next episode of “Republican Follies” could be very very sweet indeed.

 
 

St. Jim has won many Interons. He has so many that now he is the one that gives them away when “FTW” is declared.

 
 

You know what I found interesting about the Krauthammer article? I’m sure I’ve seen one of the local trolls work this angle that “The commies just changed from Red to Green!”, and that environmentalism was cooked up by “The Elites” as the new path to Taking Over the World or Stealing the Precious Bodily Fluids, or whatever it is we’re supposed to be doing.

And now Krauthammer’s writing about it? Is it possible that he’s plagiarizing trolls, now?

It’s things like this that make me wish I had become a wingnut. They put the “intellectual giant” bar so low that I could have cleared in in high school, then I too could be raking in that sweet, sweet cash. Unfortunately, I am cursed with a conscience, and so must compete in the marketplace of ideas with people who can actually think.

 
 

maybe if I NOM Jim’s branes….

If that theory is correct, then WordPress is by now the Chuck Norris, Jet Li & Bruce Lee of snark all rolled into one juggernaut of pithy spite – because it’s sure NOM NOM NOMed enough of my fucking posts by now.

Although I must admit that my “cute” habit of hitting ctrl-w instead of shift-w probably doesn’t do much to improve my repartee.

Nonetheless, LMFTWP (Lick My Foetid Taint, WP) !!!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

nothing worse than some clown defending a bunch of people who were born on third, yet are convinced they hit a triple.

Especially considering that those people are using his damn fool head for the base.

 
 

The “environmentalists are just commies in disguise” meme is at least 20 years old. In the eighties (maybe even the ’70s) the environmentalists were referred to as watermelons which is to say green on the outside and red on the inside.

 
 

The commies were anything but green.

Russia and most of the former Soviet bloc countries would probably qualify as superfund sites.

 
 

If the government wasn’t so great at running the economy we’d be speaking Russian Russian or Japanese today.

It was lined up so nicely that I couldn’t resist.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

They put the “intellectual giant” bar so low that I could have cleared in in high school, then I too could be raking in that sweet, sweet cash.

I’ve seriously considered it, to be honest. And I’d just be taking money from rubes, so I don’t really care about that. It’s more that I have too much pride, not too much of a conscience.

 
 

Watermelons. Cute.

Maybe I should start referring to Republicans as strawberry gushers. Red (in the modern, non-commie sense) on the outside, and a darker shade of red that looks not unlike a mixture of pus and semen on the inside.

 
 

If the government wasn’t so great at running the economy we’d be speaking Russian German or Japanese today.

Need moar coffeee

 
 

Russia and most of the former Soviet bloc countries would probably qualify as superfund sites.
The official line used to be that Soviet Industry conformed to the precepts of dialetical materialism, therefore it was in tune with Nature itself and could not possibly cause pollution by definition.

 
 

if you want to see the kind of business environment lib policies end up creating. Or look at California.

Troofus, may I introduce you to Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California.

Jesus, you’re stupid.

 
 

Sadly, money isn’t what the rich are trickling down upon the rest of America …

we used to call it the “tinkle-down theory” when we where young & unemployed in the 80s

there were a fuck of a lot of us, and now here we are again, expensive older workers in the midst of a huge downturn. may you live in interesting times indeed

 
Anonymous Shell Goddamnit
 

I blame the patriarchy for making me forget my own name

 
 

So where’s the liberal outrage? Where’s the drive to CUT the pay of federal employees until it is in line with the private sector?

For once, TROOFIE IS RIGHT!

According to the article, the biggest salary buster in government is the DoD.

Therefore we should cut the Defense budget immediately.

 
 

Where’s the Outrage? said at 19:02

My premise is that government leeches are overpaid.

The Federal govt does an annual survey of 30,000 private sector, municipalities, and state govts determine its pay rates for occupations and to determine the pay line. Federal employees get a pay bump called the General Increase based on the previous year’s Employment Cost Index minus one half percent. There is also a Locality bump based on the cost of employment in the location, so that federal employees in San Francisco get more than federal employees in Kansas City. Because the federal payroll is so expensive, the govt puts a lot of effort into NOT paying its employees too much. So to sum up, Outrage can kiss my shiny ass.

 
 

Sadly, No has the best and most well informed commenters on the Intertoons.

especially since they forcibly take our money from us to pay for it?

By force? Who does that? Where I live it’s a pretty straightforward payroll deduction.

 
 

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