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The Republicans are intellectually unfit to govern right now

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Damn, you’d think with President Microcephalic the bar would be low enough for anybody.

 
 

Republicans are intellectually unfit to govern at any time. John Stuart Mill was way too generous.

 
 

And of course, that’s bad for Democrats.

Fuck Bobo.

 
 

The title of his article is “Surprise Me Most”.

 
 

That’s funny, all I can see is The Republicans are intellectually unfit to govern right now’ … are you sure about that, RB?

 
 

Obama – policy specifics and actual plans

McCain – Surprise! Free puppies for everyone.

 
 

And you only had to read down to paragraph 15 to find that trenchant little nugget, buried like the baby in a King Cake.

 
 

are you sure about that, RB?

I coulda sworn that…no, I stand corrected.

 
 

McCain – Surprise! You’ve been drafted!

 
 

But I thought that this was a feature, not a bug: Republicans are opposed to intellect, so maybe this is actually a selling point.

Vote Republican 2008: We Don’t Need Your Thinkin’ And Sh*t

 
Stuck in the Fun House
 

Unfit, OK! but more to the point, they are psychiatrically unfit to govern right now

 
 

Shorter Me: Republicans are intellectually unfit to find their asses with a flashlight.

 
 

BTW, whatever did happen to Palin needing to be in Alaska to see her kid off to Iraq? Apparently, the cheers at the whistle stops have proven intoxicating and she’s cancelled that trip back this week.

On the Wrong Track?

 
 

If that’s a typo in the title please don’t correct it.

 
 

Here’s what the column says:

Boo! We win!
McCain-Palin ’08

 
 

This country is half insane. How else can we explain the fact the race is even close?

 
 

David Brooks is intellectually unfit to have a paying newspaper job.

 
 

“BTW, whatever did happen to Palin needing to be in Alaska to see her kid off to Iraq?”

They can’t be expected to stick to one politically expedient family exploitation. They have a lot of pandering and lying to do in the next couple months!

 
 

McCain – Surprise! Mooseburgers.

 
 

I can haz governance?

 
 

I was wondering just this morning how much grief a “The Republican Party – Because Stupid People Vote Too” bumper sticker would buy me.

 
 

The republicans are intellectually unfit to govern right now. –David Brooks–
I’m reminded of the movie “Dr. Newman” where Gregory Peck is interviewing the delusional Mr Future (Eddie Albert, actor and real life hero at Tarawa) about the possibility of his regaining command of his troops. The troops are dead.

 
 

Democrats have a huge advantage in a straight-up issue contest.

How can these Republican clowns keep saying “we’re good except on the issues” with a straight face. It reminds me of a line Woody Harrelson had in the otherwise forgettable “Doc Hollywood: “Ah coulda done good in medical school… except fer the science part”.

His vice-presidential nominee came out of the blue and seems totally unlike the regular crowd of former eighth-grade class presidents who normally dominate public life.

Really? Nobody evokes “eighth grade class president” more than Sarah Palin.

 
 

In case anyone missed the Ann Kilkenny e-letter:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anne-kilkenny/about-sarah-palin_b_124528.html

Palin sounds a lot like the boss I had at the job I recently quit.

 
 

The blind leading the stupid – what could go wrong?

Sure, it sounds silly to put the nation’s future into the hands of a 72 year old man who’s basically skipped work for the last year, and a conniving Boss Hogg wannabe with nerd glasses. But, really, um…

POW! Baby! Moose… things! POW!

 
 

Track, 19, was named after the course of the sockeye salmon the family fishes off Dillingham.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/06/AR2008090603024_pf.html

Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, Trig

Oh god, are they all named after where they were conceived?

I can’t see Levi taking a Trigonometry class, though.

 
 

Nah, it’s just the usual Shorter David Brooks:

Fuck the issues. Amorphous, generic stereotyping makes me money, so let’s make that the way to go.

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

I like this approach. It’ll either help knock the Republicans down a bit, or it’ll land Brooks in the doghouse. If we’re really lucky, it’ll do both.

 
 

Oh god, are they all named after where they were conceived?

So Bristol was the result of a very badly handled tit-fuck?

 
 

His vice-presidential nominee came out of the blue and seems totally unlike the regular crowd of former eighth-grade class presidents who normally dominate public life.

So the President, Speaker of the House, Senate Finance Committee Chair, Secretary of State, Director of the NSA, Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, etc., all seem like former eigth-grade class presidents, what’s that make you Bobo?

He’s still bitter over the crushing defeat of the Brooks-Drabronski ticket (“Free book covers for all 8th graders!” seemed like a sure fire slogan.)

 
 

That core thesis Bobo is pushing smells fishy to me. If weirdness won, Hunter S. Thompson would be famous for bringing the Gonzo ticket to national prominence as Sheriff of Aspen, not as a guy who wrote amazing books & articles.

The GOP is the most surprising? Wasn’t their opponent supposed to be Hillary Clinton right about now? Oh yeah, I bet this just surprises everyone’s ass off. Totally shocking or what?! Or this – from those wacky “MAVRIX” that’ve been in the driver’s seat of the Great American Station-Wagon for 8 years, anything is possible!

The last big “suprise” the Republicans pulled was picking a know-nothing loony-tune as VP, breathing new life into an Obama campaign that’s been running for more than a year now, & confirming their unfitness to govern with her galloping case of political retardation. Bellies up to the trough & backstabs like a champ, but couldn’t think her way out of a paper bag if you gave her an X-Acto knife. In other words, a boringly normal neocon.

But there’s no doubt the GOP exploiting Palin’s perky mug (& shamelessly pimping her family) has put the hurts on Obama, along with the Wall Street euphoria over Fannie & Freddie getting bailed out. He’s all the way back down to 281 EVs. If Cheney doesn’t toss Big Oil’s salad into dropping gas prices at least 20-30 cents/gal. between now & November, that’ll be the real surprise.

Sad to say, this race just got VERY interesting.

 
 

The fact is, Obama is an elitist, and Heartland and Red State Man and Patio Man and whatever else.

Additionally, I’m sending my indentured servant over to this “Applebee’s” establishment for some provisions. Would any of you care for something off of their “salad-bar”?

 
 

Hey — stop being so ‘glass half broken’ right now.

The point is not that Republicans are intellectually unfit to govern right now; the point is that Republicans are PHYSICALLY fit to govern right now.

 
 

This country is half insane. How else can we explain the fact the race is even close?

Certainly we know it can’t have anything to do with racism. Maybe it has to do with the issues?

 
 

Oh god, are they all named after where they were conceived?

I really don’t think we need a vice-president who’s going to be doing it in Air Force 2.

Don’t come a-knockin’ if this jet’s a-rockin’.

 
 

“Obama – policy specifics and actual plans

McCain – Surprise! Free puppies for everyone.” -Marco

The free market will decide that, my friend.

 
 

I suppose we can look forward to a rash of political wannabes choosing pandering names for their children.

Like, say you want to push the most horribly destructive environmental policies, but don’t want to get called on it. It’s easy if your kid has the right name. If someone asks you about how you covered for a political contributor while they pumped thousands of gallons of carcinogens in the local lake, you get all huffy and shout “Of course I care about the environment! Would I have named my kid Red-Cockaded Woodpecker if I didn’t care about the environment?!”

 
 

mat said,
September 9, 2008 at 16:55

This country is half insane. How else can we explain the fact the race is even close?

Statistically speaking, half the country has below average intelligence. There ya go.

 
 

…. “the point is that Republicans are PHYSICALLY fit to govern right now.”

All the Republicans I know aren’t physically fit to actually walk under their own power.

 
 

The race is close because Obama can’t or won’t run the campaign he ought to have run, at least not with any credibility. It turns out that the Unity Pony is a bit lame, and the Sarah Palin gambit is working.

I need some satisfaction out of this. Can I say, “I told you so” yet? Please, prove me wrong.

 
 

Oh god, are they all named after where they were conceived?

Yes, Willow was conceived in a movie theater in 1988.

 
 

Watching Brooks on NewsHour, his movements, speaking style, and facial expressions are of somebody who has not had much social interaction with anyone his entire life. I don’t think he left his parents’ house until the age of 40.

I also think he’s learned about American culture by watching every episode of Home Improvement. That show was popular for some reason, so Brooks probably thought most Americans related to those one-dimensional stereotypes.

 
 

‘ “Obama – policy specifics and actual plans

McCain – Surprise! Free puppies for everyone.” -Marco

The free market will decide that, my friend.’ – Daniel

Free Puppy Vouchers for all!

 
 

The point is not that Republicans are intellectually unfit to govern right now; the point is that Republicans are PHYSICALLY fit to govern right now.

That’s right. Only the Republicans have the strength and stamina to drive this country to the slaughterhouse. Yee-haw!

 
 

Obama’s campaign did not emphasize the bread-and-butter issues from the beginning, and McCain was easily able (in his speech, which inexplicably the whole blogosphere panned) to take that away. So McCain’s “free puppies” will be associated with McCain as the responsible policy maker, and Obama as the Unity Whisperer.

ITYS.

 
 

Hey, now. They can still be Mavericks. Theyre are still a lot of “liberal” career bureaucrats that need to be Mavericked out of town. The job’s nowhere near done, and won’t be until every federal department is staffed top to bottom with anti-intellectual pro-corporate dominionists.

 
 

year zero, sagra, metaphorical year zero. that’s what this country needs. and some babies* will be thrown out with the bathwater, but c’est la guerre.

*i’m talking to you yglesias.

 
 

Okay, Republicans are financially fit to govern right now?

 
 

McCain got a huge postconvention bounce in the polls.

If a DFH wrote something like this on an uncivil blog, we’d be asking for a linky.

I guess facts are for the little people.

 
 

“McCain got a huge postconvention ________ in the ________.”

 
mikey smells like shit
 

You liberals are gonna get your sorry little arses kicked on November 4th. Barack Obama is a muslim, period, end of story. The fact is, we are at war and muslims are the enemy. No truly Patriotic Americans are gonna vote for Obama, because a they know a vote for Obama is a vote for Bin Laden.

 
 

Yup. The republicans still have the dumbass vote sewn up. Example above.

 
 

“Some people call you Dumbasses, I call you my base”

 
mikey happens to smell quite nice
 

m.s.l.s. — in case you missed class that day in Troll 101, never go full retard.

 
 

there is a religious test for office, yes?

and all people who are members of a religion are exactly the same as all other members, yes?

because if there is any chance that either of the above are false, then even giving morons the risibly false claim of obama’s religion being muslim—they are still TOTAL FUCKING DOUCHEBAG ANTI-AMERICAN SCUM.

and any of our founders would spit on their corpses after they had run them through with muskets. i’m talking to you “mikey smells”.

 
 

Oh brother.

The race is close because Obama can’t or won’t run the campaign he ought to have run, at least not with any credibility. It turns out that the Unity Pony is a bit lame, and the Sarah Palin gambit is working.

I need some satisfaction out of this. Can I say, “I told you so” yet?

Actually, Mandos, you bleated on and on about how Obama was going to lose. As in, lose. As in, not win. So until he’s actually lost, you can’t say diddily squat.

 
 

“David Brooks is intellectually unfit to have a paying newspaper job.”

David Brooks is intellectually unfit to have a paying paper-hanging job.

 
 

Also, I don’t take any concern troll/ratfucker/McEwan seriously who brings out the “Unity Pony” line. Ignorance on Obama’s platform is your problem, not mine.

 
 

“McCain got a huge postconvention Dirty Sanchez from the lobbyists in the limo.”

 
 

Nobody evokes “eighth grade class president” more than Sarah Palin.

Yes, but Bobo said the others were former eighth-grade class presidents, not current.

 
 

I’ve never understood just what the Obama is a muslim line is supposed to mean. What would a muslim President do? Assassinate the President? Allow a major terrorist who was determined to strike the US to get away after the attack? Develop long standing personal and business ties to the leaders of the country that the terrorists came from? Shovel money to a business he used to run?

Just what, exactly?

 
 

See, you’re thinking too much. He would just be BAD, that’s all. /dumbass

 
 

Brooks is an idiot, I watched the PBS convention broadcasts and for reasons unknown he was a pundit.

Obama didn’t bring enough surprises for everyone so his campaign is boring to people who don’t understand the issues? Boo fucking hoo.

What is that even supposed to mean – that he should have found some bimbo with all kinds of skeletons in the closet and banjo-strumming entourage?

The GOP has no platform and is the reason the good ol’ USA is in the tank, which is why they need a major distraction that gets everybody on the trail of the running mate and off the case of the supposed candidate. Who, by the way, couldn’t even control the audience at his own acceptance speech.

 
 

The Republicans are intellectually unfit to govern right now.

Intellectual fitness is for candy-ass wimpoids.

 
 

“I’ve never understood just what the Obama is a muslim line is supposed to mean.”

Becuz all de bad gyz iz M0OoOO00OOoOOo00ZZZZZZZZZZZZIIMMMMMMZZZZZZ.

He M0OoOO00OOoOOo00ZZZZZZZZZZZZIIMMMMMM he bad gyz.

Kill all de M0OoOO00OOoOOo00ZZZZZZZZZZZZIIMMMMMMZZZZZZ!!1!111!

 
 

Is Snorter like a combination of a Shorter and Snark? You guys may have just outdone yourselves.

 
 

Actually, Mandos, you bleated on and on about how Obama was going to lose. As in, lose. As in, not win. So until he’s actually lost, you can’t say diddily squat.

Sí, yo puedo.

Also, I don’t take any concern troll/ratfucker/McEwan seriously who brings out the “Unity Pony” line. Ignorance on Obama’s platform is your problem, not mine.

No, no it isn’t. That very attitude is the problem.

The Unity Pony line comes from the bewilderment that anyone could passionately fall in love with High Broderism, so much so as to call anyone who mocked it a political traitor.

 
 

McCain got a huge postconvention bounce in the polls.

You’ve got to realize that at Bobo’s house, 4 is considered as “huge”.

 
 

And again with the “High Broderism” stuff.

 
 

And one more thing. When you descend from a position of long-standing strength to having to play the vote efficiency game, you know there’s a problem. It now becomes a matter of pulling it out of the bag, not holding your opponent’s head underwater.

 
 

Daniel said,
September 9, 2008 at 17:53

Oh god, are they all named after where they were conceived?

Yes, Willow was conceived in a movie theater in 1988.

Then that means Trig was either conceived while discussing Trigonometry, or pulling triggers on guns. Knowing the Palin family, it’s most likely the latter.

 
 

McCain got a huge postconvention bounce in the polls erection.

Well, huge is a relative term Huge for him.

 
 

And again with the “High Broderism” stuff.

Absolutely. Can you defend it? There’s no more corrosive meme than what the Unity and Change meme depends on.

 
 

You’re a broken record, Mandos. You’ve said each and all of these things before.

We got it. Obama sucks, and he’s going to lose, and you’ll be right…oh, you’ll be sooo right.

10-4. Now beat it.

 
 

“Unity Pony”? “High Broderism”?

Could you consider please using actual words in the future? Thanks.

 
 

the fact is, ms moosestew will knock charlie gibson’s interview out of the park. he’s going to give her nothing but expected slow pitch, won’t follow up on anything not on her talking points list. she’ll be prepared. the time between now and then should be used too portray her as a lying PTA bully. no code words, no nuance. biden should stop praising mcmansions and start pulling out the shogun-mania stories about jsm3 from way back. he was a POW, but we don’t owe him the presidency! just as he wasn’t good enough eight years ago, he’s not good enough now. all those years he ran for president, he couldn’t be bothered to learn about education policy, or healthcare financing, or economic (he wants a lifetime term for alan greenspan! hello, target rich environment!) policy. mcmansions is the one who is unprepared to be president.

 
 

You’re a broken record, Mandos. You’ve said each and all of these things before.

We got it. Obama sucks, and he’s going to lose, and you’ll be right…oh, you’ll be sooo right.

10-4. Now beat it.

Yes, and you are the official party enforcer here, I see. I particularly enjoy your Nader Purity Interrogation Moments.

The point is, that this sort of corrosive loyalty demands were and are exactly the wrong way to win this thing. Talk about circular firing squad.

 
 

Manos, nobody talks about Unity. Why? Because we have it. its a dead issue.

 
 

Are you going to be around with Truthy during Election Night? I’d love to see the two of you here.

 
 

Yo. Hey. When I said “actual words”, “Nader Purity Interrogation Moment” and “corrosive loyalty” weren’t what I was asking for. TIA HTH HAND TYVM.

 
 

High Broderism is the belief, cf. David Broder, that the Problem In Washington is that the legislative process is stalled by oppositional politics. These oppositional politics interestingly emanate from alleged leftist stalling of Reasonable Republican policies, which embody Heartland Values. Cooperation and bipartisanship are the cure.

The Unity Pony is the belief of many Obama supporters, apparently pushed by the campaign during the primaries, that the Problem In Washington is that the legislative process has been stalled by oppositional politics, leading to a failure to produce solutions. Democrats and Republicans are at fault for this, primarily an old guard of recalcitrant Democratic politicians, who mysteriously are also at fault for continuous Democratic capitulation. See High Broderism.

 
 

Okay, great. What do your little pet terms have to do with absolutely anything besides the fact that David Broder is a hack and politicians are politicians?

 
 

Oh, I thought you were honestly confused, NC.

Believe it or not, DNN, I hope Obama wins. What frustrates me are the opportunities that were squandered and the irresponsible risks that were taken. But I know that your MO is to associate any skepticism of Democratic strategy with Republican concern-trollery, so I hope you’re enjoying what you’ve got.

 
 

God, the usual helpful Republican pundit advice: Obama should criticize Democrats so McCain can reach out to them. Don’t touch it, Barack, it’s pure evil!

 
 

Mandos, get back in your flying DeLorean. It’s September 2008, not November 2007. “High Broderism” hasn’t been a part of Obama’s platform for a good long while.

If you took Unity Poniness and capitulation out of Obama’s acceptance speech, well…you did it wrong. Sorry.

 
 

Okay, great. What do your little pet terms have to do with absolutely anything besides the fact that David Broder is a hack and politicians are politicians?

Despite the fact that I smell bad faith here, the point is that somehow, somewhere, a lot of people seem to have bought into David Broder’s hackery, all the while quite probably feeling genuine contempt for him. It’s weird and inexplicable, but reflected in the mysterious Obama-passion of DNN.

 
 

And again, IIRC, you were doing this dog and pony show back when McCain drew even with Obama in the polls and was making headway in the electoral map. Then you went away when Obama surged ahead again. And now you’re back.

Gee.

 
 

If you took Unity Poniness and capitulation out of Obama’s acceptance speech, well…you did it wrong. Sorry.

Too little, too late. Obama cannot back out of the Unity Pony without looking like a flip-flopper. He should have given that speech during the primary campaign.

 
 

a lot of people seem to have bought into David Broder’s hackery

Please, do explain to me this one. How have I bought into Dean Dumbass’ hackery?

 
 

And again, IIRC, you were doing this dog and pony show back when McCain drew even with Obama in the polls and was making headway in the electoral map. Then you went away when Obama surged ahead again. And now you’re back.

Yes, because this oscillation should not be so precarious. I mean, that’s accusing me of being worried when there’s something to worry about.

 
 

Too little, too late. Obama cannot back out of the Unity Pony without looking like a flip-flopper.

And yet.

 
 

See, the thing is, High Broderism and Unity Pony, especially when combined with a certain rigid asshole-ish pedantry lacks what we like to refer to as Teh Funny.

And also, confer concern troll.

 
 

Please, do explain to me this one. How have I bought into Dean Dumbass’ hackery?

You? Never. You’re too much of a cynic.

Commenter Faye over here? Yes. The people who shivered in their seats when listening to Obama’s primary speeches? Probably.

 
 

David Brooks is intellectually unfit for a newspaper delivery route job.

 
 

Mandos, of course, is right, a fact completely lost on the Obamatons here at Obot central, Sadly, O!, who worship and love the Obambi even though it was obvious that the true blue heart of Reagan Appalachia was offered by Hillary, truly the best and most qualified candidate in recent memory. Sadly, I have already walked my boots away from the Democratic misogynists and their pathetic little pity party.

 
 

Also, what the fuck is this “Mandos” thing? [I’ve been away for a while]. And why doesn’t it crawl back under whatever rock it came from?

 
 

Mandos not live on Broder alone.

 
 

Say, that’s a pretty good “Iris!”

 
 

Someone who’s been a regular commenter here for years, and well before this campaign, and has been through his share of flamewars with the other regulars.

 
 

By the way, do you think Bobo will ever realize that the camera occasionally shows the back of his head thus highlighting that ridiculous comb-over? I mean, that’s one baaaaad combover, truly heinous.

 
 

It’s obvious you Obamatonitons can’t see the writing on the wall of your precious Obambi and his precious Unity Pony with sprinkles and kisses and lollipops on top, because you obviously hate women, have a disgust for middle America, have completely capitulated to the right wing and also can’t speak properly to the Bubba demographic. It was Hillary and Hillary alone who was both a true blue liberal feminist and who was a true blue realistic conservative and Obambi is neither and both, but also wrong.

 
 

I see. Please don’t be offended that I don’t recognize you. I’ve forgotten people far more memorable than you.

 
 

Despite the fact that I smell bad faith here

Never mind, then. You’re just here to ride the Division Pony (which is also a high horse) and sneer at the blinded Obots, I guess

 
 

Manos: reaching out to unaffiliated voters always includes the “i can get them to go along with me”. it has to, those unaffiliated voters think all politicians are alike (wonder where they got that idea?). Even mcmansions is on the “i’ll have democrats in my cabinet” bandwagon. isn’t he winning, according to you? then why is he accepting the bipartisan precept? broder is a fool, and so are you, manos.

 
 

Manos: reaching out to unaffiliated voters always includes the “i can get them to go along with me”. it has to, those unaffiliated voters think all politicians are alike (wonder where they got that idea?). Even mcmansions is on the “i’ll have democrats in my cabinet” bandwagon. isn’t he winning, according to you? then why is he accepting the bipartisan precept? broder is a fool, and so are you, manos.

Thank you for not forgetting the “d” in my name. Yes, yes, Hands of Fate, etc.

The point is that when you develop a political brand, you want to develop it in such a way that your opponent can’t take it away from you. The basis of the Obama brand is one that’s a little too easy to take away. That’s my entire message to the sadlynosian masses.

Some people believe that this is naught but concern-trollery and have since well before the primary ended. Whatever. I hope they’re right, and they’ll be shoving the ITYS in my face in November.

 
 

But are they intellectually unfit to govern in January?

And is Bobo saying this because he wasn’t the one wearing the skirt who was selected?

 
 

“…branding…” its nice to see Manos has upgrading his lexicon to include the latest definition of ‘half-witted group-think’. Take your campaign analysis/”branding” back to the Romney-Guiliani School Of How To Win Elections, you haven’t received a passing grade here.

 
 

The point is, that this sort of corrosive loyalty demands were and are exactly the wrong way to win this thing. Talk about circular firing squad.

People who switch over to the GOP were looking for a reason to do so in the first place – they’d invent one if they couldn’t find one – & the ones who get all butthurt & threaten to stay home if everyone doesn’t play the game THEIR way – or waste everyone else’s time with anal-retentive concern-trolling – are a liability in ANY party. Telling folks to grow a goddamned spine for once = corrosive loyalty demands? How dare anyone in America actually want their lot to improve! Talk of “money where your mouth is” is crypto-Stalinist bullying! Yes, truly, Obama’s high-road, issue-centered approach is the “Mein Kampf” of Liberal Fascism.

The “circular firing-squad” line hasn’t been relevant since the end of the primaries – please try to keep up, lad. You can’t have your Unity-Pony cake & eat a circular firing-squad too, you know.

This race is too tight to be comfy, but Wet-Start had his high-point BEFORE the RNC (261 EVs) & his post-con bounce isn’t even close to that late-August peak. He needed to at least match Obama in EVs before the debates (where he’s almost guaranteed to lose ground) & he blew it. Yet more foreshadowing of his epic fail in action.

Gibbering about “High Broderism” (?!?) or Unity-Ponies might feel way kewl, but the simple fact is that all Obama has to do is keep enough EVs to pick up a couple of states, & he gets the trophy – period. Right at the moment he looks to be picking up more than a dozen states, & McThuselah isn’t picking up jack from 2004 – he’s dead in the water, constant old-media rimjobs or no.

Exactly the wrong way to win? That explains why your phone is ringing off the hook right now with offers to join Obama’s strategy team, I presume? In case you didn’t notice, “exactly the wrong way” or not, it happens to work – even if it makes you sad. I’m guessing your whaaaambulance has extra Demerol on-board.

 
The Juul Haalmeyer Dancers
 

Starting to think I don’t want Obama to be President. The next President may end up with his head on a pike:

The Budget Disaster

 
Your Corporate Overlords
 

Hey, “mikey smells like shit”!

Glad to see you’ve bought into our line of BS so thoroughly! Keep up the good work!

 
 

The point is that when you develop a political brand, you want to develop it in such a way that your opponent can’t take it away from you. The basis of the Obama brand is one that’s a little too easy to take away. That’s my entire message to the sadlynosian masses.

Okay, fair enough. What should have Obama’s “brand” been?

Also, keep in mind this- Always, with my Iris, I try to encompass the ridiculous Hillary is a true liberal/Hillary appeals most to racist troglodytes platform the remaining Hillary hangers-on employed mid- to late-spring. Because, truly, Hillary was never able to define herself. She was experienced to know the inner workings of Washington; she was a true outsider who fought for the little guy. She stood up for feminism; she stood up for disaffected Appalachian bigots. She was the slandered, hated woman who spoke her mind; she wusn’t no Mooslim. And on and on. Truly, Hillary’s ultimate brand wasn’t one Obama could take away- she was Hillary, in all her contradictions.

Also, Hillary lost. So, um, whoopsie.

Some people believe that this is naught but concern-trollery and have since well before the primary ended. Whatever.

Whatever to your whatever. Because this line of concern-trollery was to have us believe that Obama would be mincemeat once the general election started, and that has not once been proven to be so. And for all your huffing and puffing, Obama still has the edge on the electoral map during the GOP bounce.

 
 

It was Hillary and Hillary alone who was both a true blue liberal feminist and who was a true blue realistic conservative and Obambi is neither and both, but also wrong.

Agreed.

But as someone who gave a lot more to Hillary’s campaign than your feeble bullshit here, I can say this:

Get on the fucking bandwagon, sweetheart. We have to get Obama elected. Period.

 
 

It was Hillary and Hillary alone who was both a true blue liberal feminist and who was a true blue realistic conservative and Obambi is neither and both, but also wrong.

Agreed.

Fail.

 
 

I’ve never understood just what the Obama is a muslim line is supposed to mean. What would a muslim President do?

Are you kidding me? He just can’t WAIT to impose Sharia law! Make women wear burkas! Chop off everybody’s heads! Mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together! aaiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

 
Hunter S. Thompson's Ghost
 

Someone who’s been a regular commenter here for years, and well before this campaign, and has been through his share of flamewars with the other regulars.

Dogs fucked the Pope; no fault of mine.

 
 

Starting to think I don’t want Obama to be President. The next President may end up with his head on a pike

It is conceivable that Obama may end up only lasting one term (assuming he wins) with his presidency wrecked by the mess left by Bush. It could be the wars (a la LBJ) or it could be the budget/economy. Who knows what Bush fuck-ups have yet to see the light. But he must turn things around in his first term or the public will justifiably toss him out. Of course, the Republican minority in the Senate will do everything they can to undermine an Obama presidency.

 
 

The Democratic party must attract a fatalistic bunch. Why are people so bent on playing Monday morning quarterback BEFORE Sunday kickoff?

The RNC and its aftermath have been proof positive of one thing that’s always true of Republicans: get in line and go on the attack.

This post-partisanship promise-breaking meta Brooks is throwing at Obama is confused attempt at reasoning. It is, as the kids say, epic fail.

McCain allegedly “stole” the change meme from Obama, but whether his thievery is ultimately successful is not for the DC cocktail circuit to decide.

 
 

I’ve never understood just what the Obama is a muslim line is supposed to mean.

Well, you can’t just come right out and say that you’re not voting for Obama because he’s black because then all those PC Nazis will call you a racist. So you persuade yourself he’s a secret muslim and that’s why you’re not going to vote for him.

Ditto the Obama = socialist thing.

As George Costanza reminds us, it’s not a lie if you believe it.

 
 

Also, Hillary lost. So, um, whoopsie.

Hillary lost the primary, which is not the general. Obama won the primary in a way that has left him open to obvious attacks like the Sarah Palin nomination, which was both an attack and a form of bait that some people have taken.

But whatever to your whatever to my whatever. If this were real life, and Obama wins in November, I would have given you all leave to attack a fake unicorn tusk to my forehead and ride me around like a pony. And if I’m right, the Republicans will attack fake unicorn tusks to our all our foreheads and ride us all around like ponies.

Either way, I lose.

 
 

D.N. Nation said,

September 9, 2008 at 20:39

It was Hillary and Hillary alone who was both a true blue liberal feminist and who was a true blue realistic conservative and Obambi is neither and both, but also wrong.

Agreed.

Fail.

Why take things out of context, dickless?

 
 

Hillary lost the primary, which is not the general.

Oh mercy. This. Again. In September.

Strongest candidate! Strongest candidate! Strongest candidate! Strongest candidate!

You know, I actually know a PUMA. Real decent guy, but the whole primary made him lose his marbles. He’s still parroting Strongest candidate! Strongest candidate! over and over. Now no one wants to hang out with him. Shame.

Obama won the primary in a way that has left him open to obvious attacks like the Sarah Palin nomination, which was both an attack and a form of bait that some people have taken.

It would generally behoove you to note that the Palin/McCain mantra of change/maverickness is complete bullshit.

 
 

Why take things out of context, dickless?

Because you agreed with a parody troll.

 
mikey smells like shit
 

The fact is, you liberals are biased and full of USA hate and elitism. By voting for Barack Obama you are essentially giving the keys of the White House to Bin Laden. All muslims are the same, evil barbarians. By giving Obama the Presidency you are giving Al Queda access to our nuclear weapons. We need those nukes to slaugher the muslim world before they kill us. You homos are gay.

 
 

I vote we all attack Mandos’s forehead with a fake unicorn tusk.

 
mikey smells like shit
 

The fact is, all the mosques in this country should be burned down. And anyone who attends them should be charged with treason and subject to the federal death penalty.

 
 

D.N. Nation said,

September 9, 2008 at 20:57

Why take things out of context, dickless?

Because you agreed with a parody troll.

I most certainly did not shithead. Go re-read the rest of my post.

 
 

mikey smells like shit said,

September 9, 2008 at 21:00

The fact is, all the mosques in this country should be burned down.

With you in them.

 
 

To whom was the Palin selection “obvious” before it was made?

 
 

Boys, boys! Settle down! Mandos, you just never could get along with anyone, could you? If you can’t play nicely I’m calling your mother to come pick you up. And you can take that little mikey shithead thing with you.

 
 

The fact is, all the mosques in this country should be burned down. And anyone who attends them should be charged with treason and subject to the federal death penalty.

Tell ya what, Dudley. You get started on all that, report back here on how the initial operation went, and then we’ll all talk about what to do next.

I suspect we’ll be turning your ass over to the FBI, but it’s possible that the DHS could get to you first.

 
San Antonio Lawyer's Mom
 

Please get back to the insightful, witty comments. San Antonio Lawyer misses them so!

 
 

Our annual revenues exceed the GDP of any Muslim country. Our annual net profits could pay for Chavez’s entire government for a year and still have a coupla billion left over for, you know, incidentals. So, yeah, “mikey smaells like shit”, go ahead and burn mosques, but be sure to use Exxon-Mobil gasoline! It’s “cheap” now and we’ll keep it that way through November 4th! We promise!

After that, though, Happy BOHICA Day to you and yours!

 
 

Mandos said,

Either way, I lose.

So there’s a silver lining after all.

 
 

Obama didn’t bring enough surprises for everyone so his campaign is boring to people who don’t understand the issues?…. What is that even supposed to mean – that he should have found some bimbo with all kinds of skeletons in the closet and banjo-strumming entourage?

BoBo speaks for the voters who believe — usually incorrectly — that they are sufficiently insulated from the problems of the real world, and therefore can treat presidential elections the way they treat the latest “American Idol” contest. They live in gated communities, their kids go to private schools, they hire their own security forces, they can afford to buy bottled water and organic free-range gourmet meals, and they have enough money stashed away that a global depression is just another opportunity to acquire more assets for pennies on the dollar! Of course only one in a million of the voters who think like this are anywhere near as “secure” as they would believe, but those rare genuine Insulated-Americans are the ones who pay BoBo to write Serious Punditry complaining that Obama won’t pander to BoBo’s craving to see his intellectual betters put on clown shoes and spray seltzer down each other’s pants.

 
 

I do kinda sorta wish that Obama had chosen Hillary now.

I would just really like to see Hillary up against Palin.

 
 

“You’ve got to realize that at Bobo’s house, 4 is considered as “huge”.

4” IS huge for Bobo. Take it from me, I’ve seen his manhood. In comparison with many other male members, 4 inches is huge. Even though I personally handled the comparisons, I AM NOT GAY!

 
 

So, were screwed no matter what? Is that the message?

I never believed in the kum-ba-ya crapola Obama has been peddling; that’s why I didn’t support him in the primaries. This is a nation split along partisan lines, and the other side is a bunch of sharks who will smile and sing right along with you while they get ready to stab you in the back at the first opportunity. I want a fighter as President, someone who will fight for me, not someone who’s a “consensus builder” and compromiser. There is no compromise with anti-intellectualism, no accommodation with those who believe government is the problem not the solution. There is only opposition, counterargument, and victory or defeat. I heard a very good speech a couple of weeks ago: they just don’t get it, let’s have that debate. I want more of that Obama, the community organizer and fighter, and less of Obama the consensus builder and compromiser.

This talk about how polls don’t matter and all that counts is that Obama is ahead in the electoral college may be true, but it’s not comforting. It sounds too much like “Obama has a secret plan for winning this election.” This contest should not be close. The fact that the polls are close or even show McCain ahead are appalling. I don’t care what the electoral vote count is right now, there are too many people who don’t seem to realize the truth of what McCain represents; and that scares me.

 
 

Mandos said, Either way, I lose.

Manos, you lost long ago. Around the time you were born, I would think.

Now, this place seems to have gone seriously downhill while I was out:
1. Feeding a concern troll who isn’t the least amusing to read. What’s with that?
2. Profanity is almost nonexistent. What the fuck?
3. Not a single reference to “poop” or aeven one poop joke in the last umpteen threads.
4. Dickwads like ‘msls’ are the best we get now?

It’s time for change!

 
 

“To whom was the Palin selection “obvious” before it was made?”

Morons like Dan Riehl who claimed so, after the fact.

 
 

[…]BoBo’s craving to see his intellectual betters put on clown shoes and spray seltzer down each other’s pants.

As though the McCaine/Palimpsest nee Palin campaign has been any less farcical? Less slapstick, I’ll give you that, but it’s no less hebephrenic, no more rational than pie fights, seltzer bottles and Keystone Kops.

 
 

PeeJ is right. It’s time to ask ourselves if we are better off troll-wise, than we were 8 hours ago. I say, NO!!

 
 

I know you have the whole ‘no banning’ thing, but isn’t having a nick that is a direct insult to another regular poster a bit over the line? If I decided to create an hilariouse satyricale parodye trolle called “(Insert name of regular female poster) is a cunt”, would that be OK?

It’s not as if you’d be missing anything that the other fake trolls don’t say if Smellslikeshit fell down an internets hole…

 
Rugged in Montana
 

The fact is, all the mosques in this country should be burned down. And anyone who attends them should be charged with treason and subject to the federal death penalty.

I can’t fault you on this one, brother, save to say that we need to go WAY beyond that. You see, the Muslamics worship Jesus, along with their Islam-God, so I’m thinking that a whole bunch of so-called “Christians” are nothing more than sleeper cell Islamosexuals! We need to start doing some rigorous interrogation (heh heh) of these “Christians” due to their weirdo Muslamico sympathies. Maybe we can advertise a religious pilgrimage at Gitmo so they’ll even pay their own way there!

 
 

I have no Photoshop skill whatsoever. Can someone please take this and do what needs to be done? I am aware that the Republicans are unfit to govern right now.

 
 

I second kiki’s suggestion. The “msls” bit is over the line.

 
 

There is no compromise with anti-intellectualism, no accommodation with those who believe government is the problem not the solution. There is only opposition, counterargument, and victory or defeat.

Hillary supporters: Obama dropped this line long ago. Catch up.

Or, you can go back to the Epic Thread and keep it going. The small band of us that continue posting on it have gotten restless.

This talk about how polls don’t matter and all that counts is that Obama is ahead in the electoral college may be true, but it’s not comforting. It sounds too much like “Obama has a secret plan for winning this election.”

And that secret plan is…to be winning the election. Which he…is.

 
 

Shorter “Mikey Smells”

“I am a parody of a genocidal maniac”

 
 

Holy Smegma on a Shitsickle!!!

 
mikey smells like shit
 

The fact is, muslims are evil and seek to destroy us. We need to destroy them first. Every single muslim in this country should be rounded up and put into prison camps like during ww2 to prevent fifth columnists. Then every single muslim nation should be nuked into oblivion. PATRITOTC USA POWER WILL TRIUMPH!!!

 
 

Now…

Back to the Concerntrollery.

 
 

I am not a violent person, but I’d like to personally kick msls directly in the nuts.

Ban that motherfucker.

 
 

“The fact is, muslims are evil and seek to destroy us. We need to destroy them first. Every single muslim in this country should be rounded up and put into prison camps like during ww2 to prevent fifth columnists. Then every single muslim nation should be nuked into oblivion. PATRITOTC USA POWER WILL TRIUMPH!!’

Now take thgis and substiute teh word “Jews” for “Muslims” and you have a speech by a memebr of a certain german workers party I will not name

 
 

He seems a littel more sociopathic than most trolls

HEartland

 
mikey smells like shit
 

This fact is, Islam attacked us on 9/11. What are we supposed to do? Ignore them and hope they’ll leave us alone? Never! America does not run EVER! Muslims are filled with hate for the West. And how do you fight hate? With more hate! Islam will pay!

 
 

This comment thread is really depressing.

 
 

Hey, WordPress actually let me post something! I haven’t been able to post a comment here in about three or four weeks!

Now, if I only had something insightful to say….

Booger?

 
 

Wow, that is some genuine ignorance, xenophobia, and racism, and you wonder why the rest of teh world hates america

 
 

Edumucate me…is MSLS one of Saul/HAAM’s sockpuppets?

 
 

Zeppo

Are you Dr. Johnny Fever?

 
mikey smells like shit
 

Eye for Eye. Tooth for Tooth. Injury for Injury. Life for Life.

That is how this war must be fought. Islam murdered 3000 innocent Americans. Therefore we should invade their countries and slaughter their citizens.

Mecca, Medina, Cairo, Damascus, Bagdhad and Tehran. All should be nuked so Islam will know that America will never be fucked with again. The Japs learned this the hard way, therefore so should the muslims.

 
 

I’d like to hear more about the boobs, please.

 
The Lucky Charms Leprechaun
 

They’re always after me Lucky Charms! And what am ah supposed t’ do, ignore ’em? NEVER! How d’ ye fight those damn kiddies stealin’ my pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers? Kill’ ’em with kindness? NAY, I say! Next time they come after me Lucky Charms, I plan to beat ’em to death with my shilelagh! Those kids will pay!

 
 

I was going to say “poop” instead of “boogers”, but thought that MIGHT be a bit too over the top. You know, wouldn’t want to offend anyone here, seeing as everyone is being so polite and all….

 
Shit Mote in God's Eye
 

Now take thgis and substiute teh word “Jews” for “Muslims” and you have a speech by a memebr of a certain german workers party I will not name

Two points for dodging the G-Dwin.

 
 

Booger can get you kicked off a radio staion in LA, But arthur Carlson will hire you, and god bless andy travis fro moving the format to rock

 
 

I thought my Godwin dodge was worth at least two points, so thank you for the acknowledgement

 
 

Gordon Jump = Elmer Fudd

 
 

What’s the difference between Palin and Muslim fundamentalists? Lipstick.

Also, poop.

 
 

Who is Mandos? Mandos is >_<

 
 

Mandos, Hands of Fate.

Torgo, get my bags out of the car.

 
 

Ginormous Knockers!!!1!

 
 

Never! America does not run EVER!

Especially toward a certain cave near Tora Bora.

 
The Lucky Charms Leprechaun
 

Eye for Eye. Tooth for Tooth. Injury for Injury. Life for Life.

And cereal for cereal, if ye ask me.

If those pesky kids want t’ steal me Lucky Charms (which are, I must confess, magically delicious), then I shall invade their homes and liberate their Raisin Bran.

The Trix Rabbit. Barney Rubble and his freakin’ Fruity Pebbles. That gobsmackin’ Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs bird thing whate’r the hell he may be. All are rotten cereal stealin’ boyos so ay’ll shew ’em the hard way that ye don’t f*ck aroun’ with a leprechaun. I’m tragically malicious, don’t ye know!

 
 

freakin’ Fruity Pebbles.

Don’t ask, don’t tell.

 
 

O.K., I guess I am not as aware of all internet traditions as I should be. Please explain “Godwin dodge”.

 
 

msls: While I agree with your premise that Islam is deeply evil religion that the West is currently at war with, you should probably cool down your rhetoric. You don’t want to sound, shall we say crazy.

My dear liberal friends, while I do not agree with some of msls’ “over the top comments” he is right about Obama being a muslim. That alone should make educated Americans think twice about pulling the lever for him.

But it looks like they’re already realizing that, as McCain has a significant lead accourding to most polls. Zogby shows him with a ten point lead which I linked to you yesterday. Looks like this election is going to be another win for the Heart and Soul of America.

 
 

Woohoo! We be getting rife with “poop”s now. Good job.

I’ll chip in a couple points the G__win dodge as well. Nicely done.

 
 

Seriously, as I said a few days ago, if you think Timothy McVeigh was a crazy wacko, wait until Obama wins and the really crazy right-wing wackos really come unglued and lose their fucking minds.

It could get crazy around the country.

 
 

Most “educated Americans” would tend to need a citation before accepting your claim as fact, Saul? Got anything that wasn’t pulled out of your ass?

 
 

You are free to take one of those question marks for your own use.

 
 

You Godwin a thread when you mention the Nazis. Some say you automatically lose the tread, while others say it is the point at which the thread jumps the shark.

The Godwin Dodge is when you imply the Nazis without actually naming the beast, thereby avoiding the Godwin.

And with that, the thread is officially Godwinned.

 
 

Count Chocula is totally getting screwed in this thread.

 
 

Is Saul telling somebody to cool down their rhetoric a sign of the apocalypse?

 
 

What? saul is back? without the ‘Shalom, Gentlemen crap?

 
 

Can a person be a Muslum and the Anti-Christ at the same time? I mean, can one person do both at the same time? And have an rabid anti-American preacher at his church (like as in “Christian” church), whom was undoubtedly a huge influence on Obama, brainwashing him to have all these anti-American thoughts.

“Educated Americans”…?

 
 

umm, not to pick a fight or anything, but I don’t think Mandos is concern trolling here. I’ve heard him say the same things on other sites, he’s being consistent.

I disagree with his points, as do the people who responded to him. But he’s been consistently saying the same things for quite some time, and I don’t believe he suffers from the blinders that a typical PUMA does.

I see his concern, and late last year I said many of the same things. However, none of us (I think- tough to tell who lurks here ) are in charge of Obama’s campaign or privy to their strategy discussions, so we’re all just spit-ballin it here. I would have run a much more aggressive campaign also, but whether that would work better or not is all guesswork.

Anyways, Mandos is not in the same league as MSLS, Iris or even saul.

 
 

I once bought a Car at Godwin dodge

 
 

Iris is a parody.

saul is not the OG saul.

msls is a teenager crying out for a good old-fashioned ass kicking.

 
 

“But it looks like they’re already realizing that, as McCain has a significant lead accourding to most polls. Zogby shows him with a ten point lead which I linked to you yesterday.”

You have absolutely no understanding of polls or statistics, do you?

It’s all right. You can admit it.

 
 

Islam itself is evil. But not all muslims are evil . There’s a big difference. Those who are fundamentalist and suscribe to wahhabism or any of the other extremist brands of Islam are most likely evil. There are however moderate muslims living in the balkans who are not evil and are mostly pro-American such as the Albanians and the Kosovars.

But of which brand of Islam is Obama? Is he a fundamentalist or a moderate? There’s no way of knowing. So, do we really want to take the chance he could be a fundie? I would strongly advise against it.

Most “educated” Americans who know these things would think twice about voting for a muslim candidate for high office.

 
A Bewigged and Powdered Fop
 

You don’t want to sound, shall we say crazy.

My dear liberal friends,

No, you mustn’t sound, shall we say madcap, or, shall we say frenzied. “Twould not be shall we say de riguer.

My dearest compagnons of the liberal persuasion, it is of my deepest concern about which whom you might, tee hee [opens hand fan in front of face] “pull the lever.”

 
 

‘Saul’-

You are not a reasonable or very smart person.

Obama is many things. Muslim he isn’t.

 
 

Just think, if Obama is elected, hotels would have to replace all those teeny little Bibles in the desk drawers with editions of the Koran.

That could cost the American economy billions right there.

 
 

Godwin Dodge? WTF were you doing buying a fricken’ Dodge, anyway?

I bought a car from this guy.

 
 

Barack Obama clearly mentions “his muslim faith” right here.

 
 

“My dearest compagnons of the liberal persuasion”

What? Are you calling us mushrooms? ‘Cause the GOP’s sure trying to keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit.

 
 

“That is how this war must be fought. Islam murdered 3000 innocent Americans. Therefore we should invade their countries and slaughter their citizens.”

MSLS fail. Mann Coulter win?

no, fail.

 
 

Count Chocula is totally getting screwed in this thread.

Count Chocula is still big. It’s the cereal that got small.

 
 

Barack Obama clearly mentions “his muslim faith” right here.

The matter of bearing false witness is addressed in the Torah, right, Saul?

 
 

The old saul never capitalized his name.

 
 

Maybe if you watched the you-tube video I linked to you would realize I’m not bearing false witness.

 
 

Is Fruity Pebbles gonna have to choke a bitch?

 
 

“Barack Obama clearly mentions “his muslim faith” right here.”

OMFG SAUL WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO???!?!?!?!?! Teh Muslims, they’re gonna take over our country! He’s the Manchurian Candidate for sure, what with being captured by those damned Asians and sent back here to run for office…

 
 

That is how this war must be fought. Islam murdered 3000 innocent Americans. Therefore we should invade their countries and slaughter their citizens.

Can’t we just slaughter 3000 of them and call it a draw? Ooops, guess we’re already ahead, aren’t we? Now what?

 
 

I don’t own no freakin’ Dodge, man. I have an OLDSMOBILE, which, eh… sort of doesn’t exist anymore. But that means I am driving a CLASSIC car! Dude.

The only car dealer I ever trusted was Cal Worthington. Do you know any other car dealer who rode around a baby hippo on his commericals? That just oozes the message, “trust me, baby, with your hard earned cash.”

 
 

I think we’re ahead by about 1,798,456 bodies and some change.

 
 

Daniel asks:

What are we going to do?

Why not vote for him of course.

 
 

“Islam itself is evil. But not all muslims are evil . There’s a big difference. Those who are fundamentalist and suscribe to wahhabism or any of the other extremist brands of Islam are most likely evil. There are however moderate muslims living in the balkans who are not evil and are mostly pro-American such as the Albanians and the Kosovars.”

Wow, all snarkiness aside, you make me ashamed to be an American.

 
 

What’s scarier is that John McCain has never mentioned his Muslim faith. And if you were a Muslim infiltrator with nefarious plans to take over the country, would you use the words “Muslim faith” or not?

Now who’s the radical Muslim infiltrator, huh?

 
 

After all, genocide always works so well. It’s not like anybody survives and their grandchildren vow to kill your grandchildren or anything like that.

Did I say the dumbass vote? Make that the sociopathic dumbass vote.

 
 

Saul also mentioned ‘the Islam Faith’

by his own metric, he is a Stealth Muslim and must be deported immediately!!!

 
 

This fact is, Islam attacked us on 9/11. What are we supposed to do? Ignore them and hope they’ll leave us alone?

Ummm, isn’t that what the Bushies did? You know the whole “bin Laden determined to attack within the U.S.” notice that they got and Junior said “Fine, you’ve covered your ass” (shorter: “I’m not gonna do a frikkin’ thing about it”)?

I mean, if you’d even bother to look into the half-assed story we were fed about 9/11, you’d discover that Atta and his cronies were pork-eating, coke-snorting alcohol-drinking losers who loved strippers, not exactly ideal examples of those who follow Islam. So, we’d be nuking Muslims….why?

If you want to get crazy with someone over the whole event, try the Israelis. They appear to have monitored the whole thing without bothering to notify US intelligence agencies about it, yet sent messages to others in Israel (via Odigo) that the attacks were going to happen in a few hours. Aside from the “Dancing Israelis” that were caught celebrating the deaths of 3000 people, a massive Israeli spy ring was discovered working it’s way into every element of the American power structure (nice ally, eh?). And it’s the Muslims we should be nuking, imprisoning and burning down their mosques? Good grief man, Osama bin Laden isn’t even accused of the crime, check the goddamned FBI website for yourself!

Get your priorities straight, chum.

 
 

John McCain is unfortunately suscribing to the PC status quo by not mentioning Obama’s muslim faith.

As I mentioned before, I have serious reservations about John McCain. While he was in the Senate he often collaberated with the Democrats to block conservative legislation and judicial appointments. He was among the Senate’s most outspoken supporters of “comprehensive immigration reform.” And was a co-sponser of “McCain-Feingold” Campagin finance reform, which greatly restricts free speech during elections and was the main reason why my favorite candidate Congressman Tom Tancredo didn’t get enough name recognition to have a good shot a winning the Republican primary.

If it wasn’t for Sarah Palin’s presence on the ticket, I probably would be staying home on election day. Hopefully she will challenge McCain in the primary in 2012. I think she would win.

 
 

“my favorite candidate Congressman Tom Tancredo..”

Well, that explains a lot.

 
 

Orange Tom:

“I’m not gonna do a frikkin’ thing about it”

Please refrain from not cussing in the future.

 
 

That has nothing to do with religion, ‘saul’. That is some demented dumb-ass, like msls in about two years.

And it is interesting that msls is only around when ‘Saul’ is as well…

 
 

Can I bring up Christianity at this point, and talk about, oh, the Crusades and the Inquisition and burning of witches and of turning the other way while the Nazis were pursuing their “final solution”? Nothing evil there, I suppose.

Oh, damn. I just did that Godwin dodge thing and jumped the shark and lost the thread, all at the same time.

 
 

Yeah Eric Rudolph didn’t kill Abortions doctors because of his faith, or anything

 
 

Really, the fear that people live in about an entire population of this world speaks volumes about their lack of any sort of certainty, which would seem to contradict their claims of religious righteousness.

Shorter t4toby:

The fear you display belies your lack of faith.

 
 

The Crusades were a justifiable war of self-defence aimed at preventing muslim bandits from killing Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land. The inquisition in its entire roughly 500 year period (1200-1700) killed no more than an estimated 3000 people. Islam however, has killed many millions including the current genocide in Darfur. Not to mention the Palestinian intifada, the Ottoman empire’s many wars of expansion during the high middle ages into the early modern era, and the current world wide jihad. Christians and Jews have never murdered as many people as the muslims have.

 
 

I almost forgot the Armenian genocide of 1915. During which an estimated 1.5 million Armenians were slaughtered by the Ottoman Turks because of their Christian faith.

 
 

And New Coke, Saul. Don’t forget New Coke. And all of Jason Alexander’s post-Seinfeld sitcoms.

Fuckin’ Muslims.

 
 

Is “Saul” still pretending to be a Jew? If so, anyone who knows anything about how the Crusades really went down would find it strange to hear him gushing so enthusiastically about them.

 
 

Your number for killed Muslims during the Crusades is ridiculously low.

Do you know who else the Crusaders killed? Jews. 12000 in Armenia alone.

Dumbass.

 
 

Yeah, the New Saul just doesn’t have the zing that old saul had.

Plus he now capitalizes the S. Dead giveaway.

 
 

3000 killed during the Inquisition. If you knew how to read you would have realized thats what I said.

 
 

12,000 Jews in the Rhine Valley alone were killed as the first Crusade passed through. Some Jewish writers refer to these events as the “first holocaust.”

c.f.

 
 

A “rabbi” defends the Inquisition! “They didn’t kill THAT many people.”

 
 

These mass killings were repeated during each of the 8 additional crusades until the final, 9th, crusade in 1272 CE. Both Christians and Muslims believed that they were fighting on God’s side against Satan; they believed that if they died on the battlefield they would be given preferential treatment in the Christian Heaven or the Muslim Paradise. Battles were fought with a terrible fierceness and a massive loss of life. Over a 200 year period, perhaps 200,000 people were killed.

So 3000 Muslims, 12000 Jews, and 185,000 christians died during the crusades? Wow.

Go home, little boy.

 
 

In fact, the total number of dead during the crusades is unknown, but it is well over 500,000 over all of the iterations of religious intolerance collectively known as the Crusades.

 
 

Big S Saul? Hello?

Hellooo? Is this thing on?

Where’d he go?

 
 

The inquisition in its entire roughly 500 year period (1200-1700) killed no more than an estimated 3000 people.

The inqua-fucking-sition? (hat tip to t4toby). That was tiny compared to the interdenominational wars that Christians waged among themselves. Although, since you’ve brought it up, it does bear an uncanny resemblance to the “security state” put into place by the Cheneyites (legislation that had been constructed for years in extreme-Right think tanks and appeared in Congress almost overnight), after 9/11. Nice bit of “get big government off of the backs of the people” thing ya got going there.

Not to mention the Palestinian intifada

Which has effectively been a purely symbolic action (compare the fatalities on both sides) brought about by the outright theft of the land they’ve lived on for thousands of years, by people claiming that was it was left by biblical Hebrews and somehow, it belongs to them (nice how they deny the Palestinians “Right of Return”, eh?). By those standards, I think I’m entitled to a nice chunk of the former state of Gaul (seaside, preferably). Would my serial killing of countless numbers of Frenchmen be legitimate?

Christians and Jews have never murdered as many people as the muslims have.

If you could come close to backing that up, one would have to ask what relevance it has to today? Should Muslims continue to regard Christians in “Crusader” terms, or is that ridiculous?

 
 

What are we supposed to do?

I know! Let’s hate you!

 
 

The inquisition in its entire roughly 500 year period (1200-1700) killed no more than an estimated 3000 people.

I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but … tell you what, Saul: when you personally experience the suffering inflicted by the Inquisition on each and every one of those 3,000 people, in sequential order, and THEN come back and tell us how unimportant their deaths were, we MIGHT stop thinking you’re a hate-filled bigot. No, I take that back: actually, we’d probably just start thinking you’re a hate-filled, masochistic bigot.

 
 

Mecca, Medina, Cairo, Damascus, Bagdhad and Tehran. All should be nuked so Islam will know that America will never be fucked with again. The Japs learned this the hard way, therefore so should the muslims.

Thank you for your willingness to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about.

Never mind the sheer psychopathic idiocy of spontaneously attacking Egypt, a friendly nation – Iran now has a mutual-defense pact with both Russia & China. If America was insane enough to do what you suggest, it wouldn’t just get fucked with – it’d get gang-raped.

China doesn’t even have to fire a shot – just call in its markers – & America becomes a basket-case overnight: it can’t even begin to cover its debts to China alone let alone BOTH China & Russia. If they BOTH call America’s economic bluff, Uncle Sam better learn Mandarin, real fast. It’s not a scenario the US can shoot its way out of.

Go back to fapping over “Faces Of Death 2” & stop pretending you have anything to contribute here – unless you’re pervy enough to ENJOY being laughed at, I mean. Your call.

 
 

Never mind the sheer psychopathic idiocy of spontaneously attacking Egypt

Kinda makes me wonder why al Quds didn’t make the list.

 
 

One has to assume that the new “msls” and “saul” troll(s) are some S,N! regular’s to cheer up the Eeyores among us by giving us a new strawman/shitpile to bash. Speaking for myself: EPIC FAIL.

 
 

If this guy is an “intellectual”, no fucking wonder the US is dumb enough to vote for Palin/McCain.

 
 

Christians and Jews have never murdered as many people as the muslims have.

Oh, fuck, saul, am I going to have to post the facts again? Sigh.

http://parrotline.blogspot.com/2006/03/fact-vs-fiction.html

 
Marquis de Chocula
 

I once dated an MSLS. Well, really she was an MSLS student, but she had the black-framed-glasses and the hair-up-in-a-bun, which is reasonable enough to do, and the fishnets, which are unreasonable but lovely.

 
Marquis de Chocula
 

Also, each “S” stands for “science”.

 
Nascar McHeartland
 

So what if the Republicans are intellectually unfit to “govern” right now? We don’t need “government” tellin’ us what to do; we just need someone who can git ‘er done!

 
 

If there’s one thing that devout Muslims are famous for doing, it’s vehemently and repeatedly denying their Muslim faith to any and all people who ask. Surely Allah smiles down upon followers who would publicly deny their beliefs.

 
 

Hillary supporters: Obama dropped this line long ago. Catch up.

He never took this line in the first place. That’s why I didn’t vote for him in the primaries. Now I worry that not taking it will sink him in the general, and the country along with it.

I used to believe that regardless of who won a Presidential election, they couldn’t destroy the country. If McCain wins and gives us 4 more years of half-trillion dollar deficits, I’m not so sure the country will survive. Obama simply MUST win. And I’m afraid that if he doesn’t wise up and recognize that the opposition can’t be reasoned with because they are fundamentally unreasonable people (and proud of it), he’s going to lose.

 
 

Oh, and Saul, if you’re still listening, the “Obama is a secret Muslim” canard is way tired and expired. I don’t care if a candidate is a Rastafarian or a Zoroastrian or whateverthefuck, as long as they don’t try to make religious dogma the law of the land. I realize that religious background can be indicative of someone’s philosophical outlook (it’s not always 100% determinant!), but really, if you think a Muslim President would get Sharia law passed or turn the country over to Ahmedinajad you’re just bonkers. Nutty as a fruitcake.

 
 

Marquis de Chocula said, I once dated an MSLS. and then Also, each “S” stands for “science”.

“Mother Science Like to Science?” Wha-huh?

 
 

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Back in the 80s and 90s, people used to tell me Reagan didn’t raise taxes. I always responded that he raised the taxes of our kids and our grandchildren.

 
 

Douche B: Master of Science [the generic degree] Library Science [the specific field].

 
 

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