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	<title>Comments on: Shorter Michael Totten</title>
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		<title>By: Dragon-King Wangchuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon-King Wangchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PENIS</description>
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		<title>By: Jrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoretically, Bushco has stripped the word victory of all meaning.

Most people agree that we&#039;ll achieve victory when blargle hoofa pooolillicker gasfrump numinyblox.

Also, Obama had that guy killed, but the files were never recovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, Bushco has stripped the word victory of all meaning.</p>
<p>Most people agree that we&#8217;ll achieve victory when blargle hoofa pooolillicker gasfrump numinyblox.</p>
<p>Also, Obama had that guy killed, but the files were never recovered.</p>
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		<title>By: MarktheSpark</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarktheSpark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll give you brown people &quot;peace&quot;. The piece of the Grave!

Oh, &amp; your oil&#039;s going to Exxon, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll give you brown people &#8220;peace&#8221;. The piece of the Grave!</p>
<p>Oh, &amp; your oil&#8217;s going to Exxon, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647642</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenician in a time of Romans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Theoretically, most people seem to agree that the US would ‘win’ if Iraq became a 1. idependent state 2. that was democratic 3. and relatively pro-US. In reality, I don’t think we’re gonna get that, or even a reasonable imitation.&lt;/i&gt;

Most people would also think it would be nice to have a totally non-fattening chocolate bar.  Not going to happen, because &quot;non-fattening&quot; and &#039;chocolate&quot; are at odds.

&quot;Democratic&quot; and &quot;pro-US&quot; can only fit together if &quot;democracy&quot; is redefined by the same sort of dickheads who think Hugo Chavez is a dictator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Theoretically, most people seem to agree that the US would ‘win’ if Iraq became a 1. idependent state 2. that was democratic 3. and relatively pro-US. In reality, I don’t think we’re gonna get that, or even a reasonable imitation.</i></p>
<p>Most people would also think it would be nice to have a totally non-fattening chocolate bar.  Not going to happen, because &#8220;non-fattening&#8221; and &#8216;chocolate&#8221; are at odds.</p>
<p>&#8220;Democratic&#8221; and &#8220;pro-US&#8221; can only fit together if &#8220;democracy&#8221; is redefined by the same sort of dickheads who think Hugo Chavez is a dictator.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Giacometti</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647620</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Giacometti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totten&#039;s penis is an &quot;innie.&quot; This is why he is so pissy all the time.</description>
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		<title>By: Argonaut</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647423</link>
		<dc:creator>Argonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, you&#039;ve hit it (Peacekeepers = Farscape). But which one do we recruit - Aeryn Sun or Bialar Crais? Both look reeeeally good in black. Both could kick neocon ass in their sleep. 

Aah, who am I kidding. If anyone is going to keep my peace, it&#039;s Aeryn Sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, you&#8217;ve hit it (Peacekeepers = Farscape). But which one do we recruit &#8211; Aeryn Sun or Bialar Crais? Both look reeeeally good in black. Both could kick neocon ass in their sleep. </p>
<p>Aah, who am I kidding. If anyone is going to keep my peace, it&#8217;s Aeryn Sun.</p>
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		<title>By: pedestrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedestrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph Nader was seen swinging a sledgehammer at the levees as Katrina made landfall.</description>
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		<title>By: Mallard Fillmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mallard Fillmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great strip idea.</description>
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		<title>By: D.N. Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.N. Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So five guys walk into a bar, but the sixth one ducks.</description>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647325</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What concerns do you have with some schlump with his many sockpuppets and ca-raaaaa-zy views on how progressives should act! like! progressives! and all?&lt;/i&gt;

He makes my favourite website less funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What concerns do you have with some schlump with his many sockpuppets and ca-raaaaa-zy views on how progressives should act! like! progressives! and all?</i></p>
<p>He makes my favourite website less funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Functioning D.N. Nation Robot</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647323</link>
		<dc:creator>Functioning D.N. Nation Robot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;DN is an obsessive ass&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Forgive D.N., forged mostly by the desire to purge the ranks of the progressives from frauds, ratfuckers, wingnuts in sheepskin robes, and the like. I advance that it may be better to err in that regard than to say, hey, big man Nader, assumin&#039; he ain&#039;t gonna knock ovah mah charcoal grill, will up and saaaaaave the whole lot of us n&#039;sumsuch.

Or you could be the prequel version of Matt Y. So it&#039;s up to you.

&lt;blockquote&gt;who can’t let go of a worthless argument&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shan&#039;t bother you, really, seeing how you ignored it the first time years ago. What concerns do you have with some schlump with his many sockpuppets and &lt;i&gt;ca-raaaaa-zy&lt;/i&gt; views on how progressives should &lt;i&gt;act! like! progressives!&lt;/i&gt; and all? Ignore that ass. Open that big tent wide, let that camel walk right in. So what if he&#039;s actually McCain, mavericks be mavericks and all that.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I apologize for mentioning “Halliburton”. It seemed like good snark at the time, worth a chuckle or two. Now I realize that “Halliburton” is like “Candyman”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s fine. Go back to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DN is an obsessive ass</p></blockquote>
<p>Forgive D.N., forged mostly by the desire to purge the ranks of the progressives from frauds, ratfuckers, wingnuts in sheepskin robes, and the like. I advance that it may be better to err in that regard than to say, hey, big man Nader, assumin&#8217; he ain&#8217;t gonna knock ovah mah charcoal grill, will up and saaaaaave the whole lot of us n&#8217;sumsuch.</p>
<p>Or you could be the prequel version of Matt Y. So it&#8217;s up to you.</p>
<blockquote><p>who can’t let go of a worthless argument</p></blockquote>
<p>Shan&#8217;t bother you, really, seeing how you ignored it the first time years ago. What concerns do you have with some schlump with his many sockpuppets and <i>ca-raaaaa-zy</i> views on how progressives should <i>act! like! progressives!</i> and all? Ignore that ass. Open that big tent wide, let that camel walk right in. So what if he&#8217;s actually McCain, mavericks be mavericks and all that.</p>
<blockquote><p>I apologize for mentioning “Halliburton”. It seemed like good snark at the time, worth a chuckle or two. Now I realize that “Halliburton” is like “Candyman”</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s fine. Go back to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: roy edroso</title>
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		<dc:creator>roy edroso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael hasn&#039;t responded yet? He must be really busy.</description>
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		<title>By: Dragon-King Wangchuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon-King Wangchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In which case, I&#039;ll be spending a lot of time in front of mirrors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In which case, I&#8217;ll be spending a lot of time in front of mirrors.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon-King Wangchuck</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647304</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragon-King Wangchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for mentioning &quot;Halliburton&quot;.  It seemed like good snark at the time, worth a chuckle or two.  Now I realize that &quot;Halliburton&quot; is like &quot;Candyman&quot; - only without the need for mirrors or Virginia Madsen.  I hereby renounce the use of &quot;Halliburton&quot; ever again, or at least until I have boobs as nice as Virginia Madsen does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for mentioning &#8220;Halliburton&#8221;.  It seemed like good snark at the time, worth a chuckle or two.  Now I realize that &#8220;Halliburton&#8221; is like &#8220;Candyman&#8221; &#8211; only without the need for mirrors or Virginia Madsen.  I hereby renounce the use of &#8220;Halliburton&#8221; ever again, or at least until I have boobs as nice as Virginia Madsen does.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647297</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Pretty weak sauce if you ask me.&lt;/i&gt;

But...good lord, that could only mean that DN is an obsessive ass who can&#039;t let go of a worthless argument!  I can&#039;t accept that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Pretty weak sauce if you ask me.</i></p>
<p>But&#8230;good lord, that could only mean that DN is an obsessive ass who can&#8217;t let go of a worthless argument!  I can&#8217;t accept that!</p>
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		<title>By: Simba B</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647294</link>
		<dc:creator>Simba B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being bored at work and lacking access to the work I was doing due to a network glitch, I decided to investigate the Ralph Nader-Halliburton thing. Nearest thing I can find to a &quot;primary&quot; source is &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/10/28/stocks/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; (by Jake Tapper no less), which points us to &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20000815085242/http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/index/P20000527.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, which is Ralph Nader&#039;s disclosure form for his 2000 run for office.

Halliburton is not on there. The source of the claim is probably this passage:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
In the financial disclosure form Nader filed on June 14, the Green Party presidential candidate revealed that he owns between $100,000 and $250,000 worth of shares in the Fidelity Magellan Fund. The fund controls 4,321,400 shares of Occidental Petroleum stock.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, he owned a mutual fund that owns a subsidiary/associate of Halliburton, in 2000. No indication of if/when he sold that. Pretty weaksauce if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being bored at work and lacking access to the work I was doing due to a network glitch, I decided to investigate the Ralph Nader-Halliburton thing. Nearest thing I can find to a &#8220;primary&#8221; source is <a href="http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/10/28/stocks/index.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> (by Jake Tapper no less), which points us to <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000815085242/http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/index/P20000527.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a>, which is Ralph Nader&#8217;s disclosure form for his 2000 run for office.</p>
<p>Halliburton is not on there. The source of the claim is probably this passage:</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the financial disclosure form Nader filed on June 14, the Green Party presidential candidate revealed that he owns between $100,000 and $250,000 worth of shares in the Fidelity Magellan Fund. The fund controls 4,321,400 shares of Occidental Petroleum stock.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, he owned a mutual fund that owns a subsidiary/associate of Halliburton, in 2000. No indication of if/when he sold that. Pretty weaksauce if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon-King Wangchuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon-King Wangchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surge, schmurge.  Even if all the bombing and shooting stopped and peace broke out throughout the Middle East - US Forces would still not be peacekeepers.  There is a phrase to describe military units in a foreign nation, when those units &lt;b&gt;belong to the original invading army&lt;/b&gt;.  It&#039;s occupation forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surge, schmurge.  Even if all the bombing and shooting stopped and peace broke out throughout the Middle East &#8211; US Forces would still not be peacekeepers.  There is a phrase to describe military units in a foreign nation, when those units <b>belong to the original invading army</b>.  It&#8217;s occupation forces.</p>
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		<title>By: mmm...lemonheads</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmm...lemonheads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why must you &quot;doom and gloom&quot; our military-industrial hegemony(TM)?
Mr. Trotten may look like a dirty hippie but he&#039;s ALL red, white and blue.
I&#039;m guessing mostly blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why must you &#8220;doom and gloom&#8221; our military-industrial hegemony(TM)?<br />
Mr. Trotten may look like a dirty hippie but he&#8217;s ALL red, white and blue.<br />
I&#8217;m guessing mostly blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Nader</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9986.html#comment-647280</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Nader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re so pretty, Djur. So pretty. So pretty and smart and I just love you to pieces.</description>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several comments above point out the crux of the biscuit: even if Iraq IS entering a peaceful phase, there&#039;s been so damn much crying-wolf of the &quot;verge-of-victory&quot; talking-point that nobody with a skull not in need of a &quot;VACANCY&quot; sign will buy it. Yeah, all those 12-foot blast-walls just SCREAM peaceful, don&#039;t they?

Beginning of the peace, my ass. Keep track of the number of deadly bombings: it&#039;s pretty well a flat line from 2005 to now. It can be made to SEEM peaceful to the info-challenged - wow, look at how low US casualties are - but US casualties went down in Vietnam during the &quot;Vietnamization&quot; period, too - the simple truth neocons can&#039;t stomach is that today&#039;s version of LIC-insurgency warfare makes real military victory a pipe-dream ... &amp; the article conveniently fails to note that peacekeepers are only really needed in WAR-ZONES - or places in crisis, on the eve of war. 

How about actually putting a big contingent of UN Peacekeepers in Iraq? Somehow I sincerely doubt Bush, Cheney, Rice &amp; Co. would be fond of the idea, let alone the event. That&#039;s the same UN they had to terrorize into LEAVING Iraq before they could &quot;shock &amp; awe&quot; it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several comments above point out the crux of the biscuit: even if Iraq IS entering a peaceful phase, there&#8217;s been so damn much crying-wolf of the &#8220;verge-of-victory&#8221; talking-point that nobody with a skull not in need of a &#8220;VACANCY&#8221; sign will buy it. Yeah, all those 12-foot blast-walls just SCREAM peaceful, don&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Beginning of the peace, my ass. Keep track of the number of deadly bombings: it&#8217;s pretty well a flat line from 2005 to now. It can be made to SEEM peaceful to the info-challenged &#8211; wow, look at how low US casualties are &#8211; but US casualties went down in Vietnam during the &#8220;Vietnamization&#8221; period, too &#8211; the simple truth neocons can&#8217;t stomach is that today&#8217;s version of LIC-insurgency warfare makes real military victory a pipe-dream &#8230; &amp; the article conveniently fails to note that peacekeepers are only really needed in WAR-ZONES &#8211; or places in crisis, on the eve of war. </p>
<p>How about actually putting a big contingent of UN Peacekeepers in Iraq? Somehow I sincerely doubt Bush, Cheney, Rice &amp; Co. would be fond of the idea, let alone the event. That&#8217;s the same UN they had to terrorize into LEAVING Iraq before they could &#8220;shock &amp; awe&#8221; it.</p>
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