Actually, it’s what got Lex Luther in all that trouble with Superman.

Same basic story.

So, she wrote the article because of the grief she got for advocated the slamming of protesters in the head on a preemptive basis — before they could become rioters. But, of course, her critics are acting in bad faith because “there is no possible reasonable reading of that post which interprets it as randomly exhorting violence against people who were lawfully marching in protest of the war.”

She’s only admitting that the joke was bad, because “[t]o the extent that either the state or private citizens are forced to use violence to prevent violence, it should always be more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger.”

But this is the part that stuck with me, and my disdain centered on one word: warbloggers.

Why did I write it? In part, because blogging was a new medium for the warbloggers, and many of us had an unfortunate tendency to say the kind of ridiculous things that one says without meaning them at bars in 3 am, except in print where everyone can enjoy them forever. If you’ve ever declared that people who jump queues should be shot, you have some sense of what I mean.

So, to this day she labels herself a warblogger and tosses off an admission that warbloggers sometimes said silly things with no hint of self-examination. What else did warbloggers do besides declare that people be shot, bombed and nuked, along with their children and families, preemptively, in order to “prevent violence?” In her own mind, how does she distinguish this 3-am-in-a-bar-silliness from her 12-noon-very-very-serious warmongering? From where I sit, it’s all exactly the same, and all exceedingly disgusting.

The smart response is to use the institutional heft of the Catholic hierarchy against that rich, self-appointed blowhole of a publicity whore of an insufferable front-row Papist. Once every bishop in the country is forced to defend or repudiate Donohue on the record, his power fades the fuck away.

a) Catholicism isn’t any better or worse than any other kind of Christianity, on the balance – in fact, they’ve got a sound enough grasp of basic logic (a few irrational hangups aside) that it’s actually possible to hold a coherent conversation with them. On the other hand, evangelicals believe that because gluon theory doesn’t quite work as currently formulated, it must be Jesus that holds the atom together.

b) What the kid did was offensive and pointless; he had to have known it was; and the reaction to him was completely inappropriate. The proper reaction would have been a few nasty letters and maybe some kind of church interdict; instead, the Catholic Leaguers actively attempted to ruin his life (and a lot of evangelical dickwanks jumped aboard, eager for any chance to act hysterical – in spite of the offended party being a church they normally despise)

c) This is a really, really unimportant issue; totemistic behavior like this will accomplish nothing. (And PZ’s post immediately after that, about hardline Protestants and charismatics infiltrating the military, was important.) The kid’s several excuses for stealing the wafer were at odds with each other; it seems like it was just some kind of stupid prank.

d) While the belief in communion is irrational, affecting to disprove it by a means like this is rather like responding to an old wives’ tale by holding the teller down and pissing in their face: it would be wrong, it would be vaguely disgusting, and them responding by kneecapping you would be even worse.

Pelican ass.

And the wine tasted like badger wee.

eff that. Atheism says I don’t have to eat or drink anything that doesn’t taste good to me.

According to what I was taught during theology classes in my Roman Catholic high school, this kind of logic-chopping is what got Martin Luthor in all that trouble with the Pope. The good nuns were careful to specify it was only a rural legend that Luthor the Apostate’s long history of painful hemmerhoids was a result of his narcissistic enchantment with his own sophistry…

CRACKERS AND WINE ARE WE!!!!!!!

AS TRANSMOGRIFIED THROUGH ME AND MY SON AND ALSO THE HOLY GHOST!!!!!!!

ALL THREE OF US TOGETHER!!!!!!!

WHEN YOU EAT US IN CHURCH!!!!!!!

THE CONSECRATED FLESH AND BLOOD OF OUR GODS!!!!!!!

AFTER CRAZY OLD DUDES HAVE DONE STRANGE THINGS TO IT AND US!!!!!!!

OTHERWISE WE’RE JUST CRACKERS AND WINE!!!!!!!

I wonder if that noble aloofness is a vestige of how scientists had to act when gainsaying the Church could get them burned at the stake and not just telephoned death threats.

Eh. I’ll take a pass on Myers’ redneck-tweaking and Kleiman’s treacly spirituality alike.

Likewise. My brother is a huge Myers fan and keeps sending me links – my response to Myers’ stuff is generally agreement with the message and embarrassment at the presentation (and the commenters, oy).

Oh boo hoo, some geek on the Interwebs is disrespecting the power & the glory of our sacred baked-goods! Yet more proof of how heinously oppressed Christians are in this horrible secular world! It’s the Holocaust all over again! WAAAAAAAAHHHH!
Is that perchance karma coming back to bite the RCs in their nether regions for all their long brutal centuries of cruelty & arrogance? Why yes, I do believe it is. Very very gently, might I add.

I say let the bloody communal wafers defend themselves.

I am a scientist by training and I strongly disaprove of the noble aloofness with which we have – for so many years – responded to all this bullshit. It is totally a matter of taking it to these retarded perverts.

Why? I believe that that belief is insane. I demand that Catholics respect my belief that their belief is insane. What? Why not?

As to the burning at the stake thing, Krassen, timing is everything. Just not socially acceptable anymore, or your sort would do it in a heartbeat today.

Besides which, every damn thing mikey said.

Flannery O’Connor: “Well, if it’s a symbol, to hell with it.”

Or words to that effect.

(Personally I say to hell with it either way, but no one cares what I think.)

I’m a korean living in seoul.(name: Oh Minseok)
Korean special investigative team investigated samsung
corporation.
But they did not work right.
Suspicious to have been bought off.
Samsung corporation had many crimes.
And the team investigated samsung corporation.
It contained korean companies samsung,hyundai,sk CEOs’ illegal issuing
stocks or bonds. ( previous CEOs or present CEOs )
The quantity are plenty.
(Three company CEOs did(and are doing) many crimes to me.
Many koreans are knowing it.
But many koreans are bought off by illegal issuing stocks or bonds.
Korean prosecutors and judges and bureaucracy are also guilty.)
The team knew it.
Korean special investigative team must investigated this.
But they concealed it.
I ask for asking for this criminal investigation to prosecutors and presidents in any
country and THE WHITE HOUSE(http://www.whitehouse.gov ) and INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE(http://www.icj-cij.org/ ) and INTERNATIONAL CRIME COURT(http://www.un.org/law/icc/) and UN SECURITY COUNCIL(http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/).
And help the shareholders and me.
P.S)
Three companies are hacking me and trying to kill me.
And are suspicious to use my name and email illegally.
If you receive another message that I dictated above are not true,
it is not from me, but from three companies.
The things I dictated above are true.

This was no ordinary cracker!

Oh, I dunno. Maybe because, for one of so many MANY reasons, Catholics historically have made it their mission in life to terrorize the rest of the world into believing that if they’re not Catholics they’re going to burn in hell forever? This is what the nuns at my niece’s elementary school told her when her non-Catholic grandmother died. The Love of Christ, who taketh away the sin of the world. Lord protect me from your believers.