Jul
17

A Trick That Is Getting Old




Posted at 3:50 by Gavin M.
ABOVE: A Bert in a world of Ernies

The ever-industrious and à la mode Gateway Pundit responds to the latest banal revelation from that dumb gotcha-tape that FOX News has been peddling as though it were the 21st Century version of the Richard Wright/James Baldwin feud:

Jesse Jackson: “Barack… He’s Telling N*****s How to Behave”

…Jackson says Obama’s telling n*****s how to behave.

The rest of the Jesse Jackson tape was released today.

Not surprisingly, Jesse used the n-word when describing Obama.

But that’s just the excitement talking. He links to this TVNewser story, and then quotes the entire story in plain sight, including this line:

Jesse Jackson did use the “N” word. But it was not directed at Barack Obama.

We don’t want to be like, “Oh that Gateway Pundit, gee whiz: always jumping up and down all like ‘Oh boy! Oh boy! The n-word!’ with his finely tuned N-dar pinging, gleefully poking at the asterisk key.” But it seems like we just worked through this issue with him, and after a smooth and congenial season in which he huffed and whooped and made stuff up day after day in a race-neutral fashion, now he’s back joyously ‘n’-hyphening all over the place — as if he were, you know, unable to freaking help himself.

Also, since we’re nit-picking, the phrase, “The rest of the Jesse Jackson tape was released today,” is contradicted by the fact, also quoted in plain sight in his very post, that no tape at all, but only a single sentence of an alleged transcript (which is, you know, quoted in full in the original story, in his post, and also above) was leaked to TVNewser.

How he gets away with this stuff, we’ll never understand. His daily visits are something like 25,000. You’d think the number would keep slipping downwards due to fatal bagel-cutting accidents, forks in toasters, hair dryers in bathtubs, perambulatory scissorings, walkings through plate glass doors, and drownings due to his readership gaping upwards during rainstorms.

He’s supposed to be a nice guy in real life, actually. But here’s the trick that’s getting really, really old:

Could you imagine if that would have been a white conservative mumbling that on tape?

And, this dude is supposed to be a civil rights leader? The double standards in our society are outrageous.

So say the damn word then, thou warrior of freedom. Knock out those asterisks and say it loud and often. Freedom means that we can say what we like. But here’s the part you seem unable to understand: It doesn’t mean that we can say whatever we like, and nobody is allowed to divine our intentions or think worse of us. Freedom of speech also means that if you say dumb, offensive things that make you look like a buffoon, people are free to exercise their own free speech by calling you a dumb, offensive buffoon.

Can we imagine a white conservative mumbling such a thing on tape? Oh gee, how about one also named Jesse, during a national TV appearance?*

But of course, to conservatives, that’s different.


* Note: I couldn’t nail down the source for the TV remark, so changed the link to a brief and incomplete compendium of Sen. Helms’s greatest hits. There ought to be something there for almost everyone.

Also, to end this foolishness once and for all, perhaps we ought to find a word meaning ‘white people’ that only white people are allowed to say. In fairness and for parallelism’s sake, it should be chosen by someone non-white. Any ideas?

113 Comments »

  1. Lenny Bruce said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:12

    Are there any niggers here tonight? Could you turn on the house lights, please, and could the waiters and waitresses just stop serving, just for a second? And turn off this spot. Now what did he say? “Are there any niggers here tonight?” I know there’s one nigger, because I see him back there working. Let’s see, there’s two niggers. And between those two niggers sits a kike. And there’s another kike— that’s two kikes and three niggers. And there’s a spic. Right? Hmm? There’s another spic. Ooh, there’s a wop; there’s a polack; and, oh, a couple of greaseballs. And there’s three lace-curtain Irish micks. And there’s one, hip, thick, hunky, funky, boogie. Boogie boogie. Mm-hmm. I got three kikes here, do I hear five kikes? I got five kikes, do I hear six spics, I got six spics, do I hear seven niggers? I got seven niggers. Sold American. I pass with seven niggers, six spics, five micks, four kikes, three guineas, and one wop.

  2. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:24

    The nip fumed through the whole sordid performance, alone and unloved.

  3. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:30

    The difference between the two kinds of ethnic humor in the mode now is that one generally targets white people and one generally doesn’t.

    The former tends to be more lurid and less restrained - that is, outside of polite company. This is because nobody is going out and lynching white people, there’s no need for a NAAWP to keep polite society open to white people, no need for a White College Fund to keep white youths from being forced into crime and drugs by a society that holds them in contempt, no legacy of slavery shot through white history, no rootlessness and impotent rage in every syllable of the white poetic.

    In general, the people you can tell the nastiest jokes about have made it; nobody looks at them funny in polite society or expects them to behave like an ethnic cutout. I can tell you the one about the Neapolitan with the bald tires (dago wop wop wop) with a straight face, but the level of hate slung at even fairly well-off minorities (say, the Chinese) makes the same remark a humorless landmine anywhere else.

    And that, Monsieur Gateway Pundit, is why you cannot say nigger without raising the ire of polite society. It isn’t the way things ought to be, but for the way things are it’s the most just thing in the world.

  4. mikey said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:30

    What?

    Are you expecting some kind of racial raprochement?

    Are you thinking we’ll what, LIKE each other?

    The time has come to identify parallel goals, to make alliances based on what we all want.

    We aren’t going to be friends, because there’s too many interests invested in hatred. But maybe we can find a way to some kind of peace. I’m willing to buy that product…

    mikey

  5. mingo said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:31

    …and drownings due to his readership gaping upwards during rainstorms.

    thank you.

  6. PeeJ said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:40

    And why hasn’t Obama healed the racial divide yet? WHY?

  7. Southern Beale said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:40

    You mean the “N word” doesn’t stand for “Nuts”?

    Heh.

  8. PeeJ said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:42

    And by the way, FAGS can use that ugly word among FAGS because we’re FAGS. If you’re not a FAG, you wouldn’t understand.

  9. PeeJ said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:44

    PS Brilliant, linking to the NPR story Gavin, just brilliant. Kudos and alll that.

  10. blowback said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:46

    Maybe Jesse Jacksion has spent to much time watching Chris Rock

  11. Ripley said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:51

    Jesse Jackson may be a hypocrite, but at least he’s not a Republican.

    Yeah, I said “Republican”, and I won’t apologize. After the last 7 years, it should rank right up there (down there?) with “nigger” and “faggot” and what have you (words I don’t use, I should add).

    Damn their eyes!

  12. MzNicky said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:00

    Dammit! Too many threads! Save some for the weekend, how about?

  13. owlbear1 said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:03

    Obviously he didn’t get the memo that ‘nigger’ is now spelled ’secret Muslim terrorist’…

  14. Typical Republican said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:05

    Hey! You said Republican!

    Hypocrites!

    (I can say it because I am a Republican.)

    Liberals. Hmf.

  15. Lesley said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:13

    His daily visits are something like 25,000

    He doesn’t have many commenters though so perhaps most of his visitors are him. Or liberals who drop in to squint and laugh.

  16. Arky - Sexual Orient Express said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:22

    Your attention please. Hello? fReichtards? I’m not over there, I’m right here. Please pay attention:

    There are no fabulous prizes associated with the use of the N - Hey, pay attention!

    There are no fabulous prizes associated with the use of the N-word. No ponies, no Big Wheels, not even a candy bar. You are not being deprived of anything but the chance to look like an ignorant putz if you do not use the N-word.

    Thank you.

  17. El Cid said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:25

    There are days when it’s all I can do to keep from weeping when I think of all the good, hard-working white people who desperately want to be able to use the word n***** more publicly and just can’t.

    Will the healing ever begin?

  18. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:38

    MzNicky said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:00

    Dammit! Too many threads! Save some for the weekend, how about?

    If Weekend could afford threads, it would wear some!
    /soem randroid

  19. Sylvester Stewart said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:41

    Don’t call me nigger, whitey!

  20. Gavin M. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:54

    [Updated a bit, btw]

  21. Me said,

    July 17, 2008 at 5:56

    and drownings due to his readership gaping upwards during rainstorms.

    Mingo beat me to this, but allow me to second him. If that shit could be duplicated on a righwing website, I’d almost consider changing sides.

  22. Me said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:03

    a word meaning ‘white people’ that only white people are allowed to say

    How about Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards?

  23. mikey said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:12

    Whiskey Hotel India Tango Echo.

    Maybe we could call ‘em Whiskey India Tango.

    Like we called Kilo India Alphas “Kilos”.

    Or maybe Whiskey Bravos for White Boys.

    Or fuck it, just call ‘em Whiskeys. See if they get it…

    mikey

  24. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:14

    Me said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:03

    a word meaning ‘white people’ that only white people are allowed to say

    How about Miserable Fat Belgian Bastards?

    Are you insulting the Phlegmish?

  25. mikey said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:16

    Back in the eighties, when I worked with Charley Cherry’s outfit running crank labs, we called “Crank” CR. Cee Are.

    I come along, with my radios and my attitude, and I stared calling it “Charles Robert” using the local police radio phonetics. Pretty soon, it starts to catch on and before you know it its “Chuck and Bob”.

    And then I discovered the Colorado Rockies caps. Holy shit. Was that a revelation around tweaker land or what?

    mikey

  26. Gavin M. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:16

    I was thinking something like ‘chum’ or ‘old bean,’ because hey, there are already old white dudes old-b**ning and ch*mming each other, so it’s already organic, sort of.

  27. J— said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:17

    Well, there’s the Bahamian term Conchy Joes, but they may have been developed by whites (British colonial officials and expats referring to local whites).

  28. J— said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:18

    that may have been

  29. Gavin M. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:18

    …Plus, a black guy would never come up to you on the street like, “Pardon me, old bean,” unless he was totally messing with you.

  30. Soj said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:19

    All I know is that I’m Crackers for McCain! ;)

  31. Matt T. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:22

    Personally, I’ve always liked “ofay”. I hear guys refer to themselves as “rednecks” all the time and I know a band called Honky, but you rarely see a white guy call another white guy “ofay”. Never happen.

    There are no fabulous prizes associated with the use of the N-word.

    And here’s the thing, and I’ve said this elsewhere: no one will arrest you if you say the n-word. You won’t have to walk around with a big scarlet N on your chest. Man, I knew dudes growing up who could say three sentances without it slipping in somehow. People will probably just think you’re a racist dipstick if you make a habit of it, though.

    And I gotta tell ya, I find it a bit surprising that so many people are shocked, shocked I tell you that individual African-Americans have been known to drop the n-bomb on other individual African-Americans in a pejorative manner. Why, you’d think our conservative brothers and sisters didn’t know any folk a’tall.

  32. J— said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:23

    An oldie but goodie from Barbados: redleg.

  33. Christopher said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:23

    And can you imagine if Ming the Merciless had said it? Or Snuffleupagus?

    What’s his point, again? That Jesse Jackson hates black people? Or that there are a lot of white people who use the word “nigger” in an affectionate way?

  34. HTML Mencken said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:23

    I vote for “goldtoe,” the most hilarious ethnic slur I’ve ever heard.

  35. Righteous Bubba said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:25

    I don’t get goldtoe.

  36. Matt T. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:29

    I don’t get goldtoe.

    Lucky you. My old man has goldtoe, and he has to take these big pills and drink lots of water. Sad, really. Caught him in his prime, too.

  37. Righteous Bubba said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:30

    Lucky you. My old man has goldtoe, and

    Oh c’mon c’mon C’MON lemme inta the kool kids klub!

  38. mikey said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:32

    Goddam it, I want to be able to say “Honkey”.

    I wanna be able to say it right out loud, to fucking white bastards. Honkey motherfuckers.

    Fucking PC society.

    Motherfucking Honkey, I want more “Scotch”….

    mikey

  39. Tony said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:36

    a word meaning ‘white people’ that only white people are allowed to say

    I’m pretty partial to “nilla” as in Nilla Wafers. It’s also a nice drop-in replacement for the N-word in many rap songs. Imagine the awesome cover art opportunities for “Nillaz With Attitude” albums.

  40. Matt T. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:37

    Oh c’mon c’mon C’MON lemme inta the kool kids klub!

    You ain’t seen the size of them pills. And was the use of the alliterative k’s intentional, given the subject at hand, or is that just me being all stoned again?

  41. Righteous Bubba said,

    July 17, 2008 at 6:38

    alliterative k’s intentional

    From a white man?

    Nilla please.

  42. Hoosier X said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:07

    I don’t know why it gives me such pleasure to see conservatives disocvering political correctness over and over again - when it suits them.

  43. owlbear1 said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:15

    “Got us some Nillaaz in da house!”

    “Get the Fuck out of here, Nilla!”

    “That is one crazy Nilla!”

    It works.

  44. owlbear1 said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:17

    Now just need a few mobs of black people to scream it at us as they lynch us…

  45. noen said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:18

    Cracker (pejorative)

    “Cracker”, sometimes “white cracker”, is a pejorative term for a white person, mainly used in the Southern United States, but in recent decades it has entered common usage throughout North America. It is a racial slur.

    Could work.

  46. noen said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:21

    But nilla is good too. Cracker seems like it’s used by whites against lower class whites. Nilla I haven’t heard before but if it’s used mostly by blacks against whites that makes it extra special good.

  47. Matt T. said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:25

    Nah. There’s a band called Cracker. Guy used to be in Camper Van Beethoven. Plus, Uncle Kracker and anything that has anthing to do with anything Kid Rock’s had anything to do is automatically disqualified.

  48. FlipYrWhig said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:26

    Remember, in the ’70s, when “turkey” was kind of an insult or slur or something? I don’t think it was ethnic, though, but, being a weird little introverted white kid at the time, I missed out on a lot of “context.”

  49. Krassen said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:27

    wassup, slim shadies?

  50. FlipYrWhig said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:33

    “nilla” is good, but if this bargain is going to work, we’re going to have to pretend like we’re really taken aback by it. Also, it would help if we were subjected to institutional prejudice and everyday humiliation for a couple hundred years.

  51. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:36

    David Lowery. “Take the Skinheads Bowling” FTW.

  52. Johnny Pez said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:40

    “Up yours, nilla!”

    Yeah, works fine.

  53. Righteous Bubba said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:43

    The last time someone called me a nilla I beat him to death with my accordion.

  54. Johnny Pez said,

    July 17, 2008 at 7:45

    Though I have to admit, it’s no Ragevein Throbshaft.

  55. Andre said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:06

    Nigger please.

  56. EJ said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:10

    I keep hoping that against all odds the Obama-Jackson feud turns into a rap battle.

    Does that make me racist?

  57. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:21

    “it’s no Ragevein Throbshaft.”

    Hell, it’s not even a Foehammer.

  58. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:22

    Ghostface is my personal favorite, honky is universally understood but fairly nonoffensive, cracker has other connotations, and ofay too badly evokes Gullah (which is… weird) to work appropriately.

    If we’re going to be using inscrutable pseudo-Africanisms, ‘buckrah’ works well enough too, dunnit?

  59. FuriousGeorge said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:25

    Personally, I’ve always liked “ofay”.

    You know, I’d never figured out what Pryor says after “tar baby” until right now. Thank you, mystery solved.

  60. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:27

    Also, if we restrict ourselves to Africanisms we neglect all of the possibilities of ‘gwailo/roundeye’.

    That reminds me: me and Djur have a favorite image on Wikipedia and it’s a Chinese emperor dressing in Western clothes and acting like an idiot. It’s perfectly, beautifully clear he’s doing some kind of dumb European impression. Let me find him.

  61. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:27

    “Ghostface is my personal favorite”

    So Ghostface Killa, translated to English, means “killer of whitey?” Damn. I was *this* close to buying a Wu Tang Clan CD, until I found out Michelle Obama was a member.

  62. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:30

    Here it is.

    NURR I AMME AN YNGLISHEMANNE! LO, TIS A TYGRE!! I DOE TREMBLE & PRAISE GODDE

  63. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:31

    ‘Ghostface’ does work on the extra-African level, incidentally - it’s usable as a loose translation of another Chinese epiphet for Whitey, which I can’t name off the top of my head but which does involve ghosts.

  64. Hoosier X said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:48

    I can’t think of a better word than “whiney.”

    What up whiney?

  65. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:49

    I like ‘Ghostface.’ I suggest we adopt it. That way we can shorten it to one letter and go around saying “Yo, G, wassup?” to each other.

  66. Michelle Obama said,

    July 17, 2008 at 8:57

    Dolla’, dolla’ bill, y’all.

  67. alec said,

    July 17, 2008 at 10:16

    If we’re to use ‘honky’, I’d strongly suggest a subdivision between ‘hunky’ and ‘bohunky’ - a generalization of the original slurs, for respectively Hungarians and Czechs.

    The former kind: less likely to push people out of windows? Maybe.

  68. kiki said,

    July 17, 2008 at 10:30

    #

    PeeJ said,

    July 17, 2008 at 4:42

    And by the way, FAGS can use that ugly word among FAGS because we’re FAGS. If you’re not a FAG, you wouldn’t understand.

    Guess we learned something new about you today, PeeJ, ya freakin’ FAG.

    Hang on a minute… I just said FAG… which means…

  69. Just Alison, without Qetesh said,

    July 17, 2008 at 11:08

    As far as my translation skillz go, which is not far, I’d say gwailo means ‘foreign ghost’ in Cantonese: the ‘gwai’ part means ghost, definitely.

    Another fave of mine is whitefella, but that’s a solely Australian term. Coined by the indigenous folk, of course, it just means that they’re not blackfellas. Nothing really derogatory about it, although of course as the underclass here (with health issues, poverty issues, and all sorts of other issues that would make your hair stand on end) they’re fully entitled to be as derogatory as they please. And sometimes are.

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  71. englishwoman said,

    July 17, 2008 at 14:01

    gwailo means ‘ghost man’

  72. luneylegume said,

    July 17, 2008 at 14:39

    Sport
    Old Sport
    Possible inferences to wet work
    dignifying swamp work with the purifying touch of english and white

  73. pedestrian said,

    July 17, 2008 at 14:45

    Here it is.

    NURR I AMME AN YNGLISHEMANNE! LO, TIS A TYGRE!! I DOE TREMBLE & PRAISE GODDE

    That is fantastic.

  74. kia said,

    July 17, 2008 at 14:48

    In Jamaica in the mid-1970s the term was “Arnold.” It began as “pig,” went to “pork,” and then evolved into the name of the pet pig on the TV show “Green Acres.”

  75. Ripley said,

    July 17, 2008 at 14:54

    How could we forget “howlie”?

    Though, howlie, actually does have some negative racial context. Serves us right, I suppose.

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  77. Mike Nilsen said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:06

    Some white ethnic slur suggestions:

    Pinkies?
    Sugars?
    Glowsticks?
    ‘Nillas?
    Caucs?
    Doughboys?

    The Brit expression ‘chav’ is pretty good.

  78. justme said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:07

    FuriousGeorge,

    I love that sketch.

    Ofey was also Dick Feynman’s nom de brush as an artist. He had no idea what it meant when he chose it.

  79. Devildawg said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:08

    Also, to end this foolishness once and for all, perhaps we ought to find a word meaning ‘white people’ that only white people are allowed to say.

    I thought Mr. President and Mr. CEO fit those criteria. Well I guess us black people can use those too, just not to describe any of our racial brethren.

  80. justme said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:13

    Chav is, I think, a bit more specific than just “white”.

    My personal fav from oh, ten or so years ago, in the studio with E-40 and Too Short I was told that we were referred to as “the clear people” because we aren’t really white, more like see-through. I about lost a kidney laughing.

  81. El Cid said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:32

    Hollows?

  82. Jersey Tomato said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:37

    Ooooh, I like glowsticks, especially because my family is so fairskinned that we do, indeed, glow in the sunlight. I’m praying that exerpts of the Jesse Jackson interview come dribbling out all summer. The wingnuts are under the impression that they’re damaging to Obama, when in fact, everytime Jesse opens his mouth and says someting stupid about Obama, another 100 white independents run out to register as Democrats. Keep up the good work, Fox and friends….if I sent you $5 every week, would that encourage you to keep Jesse’s greatest hits coming?

  83. tigrismus said,

    July 17, 2008 at 15:41

    Could you imagine if that would have been a white conservative mumbling that on tape?

    I’ve loved this with the Obama cover, too: “what would be the response if this were on the cover of National Review?! Or the We Hate Black Folks Weekly?!! Can you imagine the outrage?!!!” It’s called CONTEXT, assholes. You know how you can bitch about your mom but get mad if others do it? Sheesh, Jonah, sorry I brought it up…

    And I’m STILL laughing at the mental image of white race-rage accordion killaz.

  84. Ralph said,

    July 17, 2008 at 16:01

    His daily visits are something like 25,000. You’d think the number would keep slipping downwards due to fatal bagel-cutting accidents, forks in toasters, hair dryers in bathtubs, perambulatory scissorings, walkings through plate glass doors, and drownings due to his readership gaping upwards during rainstorms.

    Of course those readers are dropping like flies! But a replacement, they say, is born every minute. In fact, according to census records, we are adding a new major city full of idiots to the US population every ten days.

    And by the way, I am not getting any smarter either.

  85. TimWB said,

    July 17, 2008 at 16:07

    Chickenskins.

  86. Tom Allen said,

    July 17, 2008 at 16:13

    How about “niggler”? You know, obsessed with petty details, such as what Jesse Jackson says to FOX news. As in, “I hate to be a niggler, but Jackson wasn’t talking about Obama.” We can spell it ni***er, and you’ll have to count the apostrophes to know what we’re talking about. Or you can type ni66!er, if you want to be kewl.

    In polite conversation, of course, we’ll say “collared”. “Look at that white-collared boy.” “The executive bathroom is only for collared folk.” If people insist on saying niggler in public, I’ll pester them to refer to me as collared. Then I’ll be a real nagger.

    I know I’m being flippant in this post. You can flag it as offensive if you want. In fact, I’m offensive so often that a lot of guys just call me a “flag-it”. “Tom sure is a flaming flag-it,” they’ll say. Then I sputter, “But — but –!” And they say, “Yeah, and a but-pirate to boot.”

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  88. Chris said,

    July 17, 2008 at 16:47

    Jesse Helms started out in broadcasting, and most of his most vile and odious quotes came from his frequent 5 minute editorials on WRAL-TV in Raleigh in the early Sixties. It’s hard to find original source material, partly because the commentaries happened so long ago, partly because WRAL, which is still in operation, doesn’t really want to make such things part of their current ‘brand’. But people in Raleigh still remember that racist fucker’s commentaries.

  89. El Cid said,

    July 17, 2008 at 16:57

    Chris: The transcripts for many of those editorials were donated to the archives of the University of North Carolina (North Carolina Collection). Strangely, all actual video recordings vanished before Helms’ political runs. What a co-inky-dink.

  90. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    July 17, 2008 at 17:01

    Tom Allen wins the thread.

  91. mextremist said,

    July 17, 2008 at 17:09

    well, lotsa mexican folk use “bolillo” to refer to white americans. bolillo (pronounced bo-lee-yo) is a piece of bread that is something like a small baguette. why bolillo? well, bolillos are bland, tasteless and cheap, and you need something else to go with them or they’re just boring and gross… which sounds about right…

    güero is pretty cool too, but it’s hardly derogatory since it just means blondie.

    or how about land-stealing, vow-breaking genocidal imperialist assholes? is that too long?

  92. Thomas Allen said,

    July 17, 2008 at 17:20

    Damn –another with my name is wittier than I.

    I was simply going to write, “Pasty Mother Fucker”. Of course, I’m one of the collared folk, so my opinion doesn’t count in this thread –wouldn’t want to offend parallelism.

  93. Righteous Bubba said,

    July 17, 2008 at 17:54

    well, bolillos are bland, tasteless and cheap, and you need something else to go with them or they’re just boring and gross…

    This is the argument for nilla also and it already has a pejorative advantage. Niggler and collared are really funny but easily misheard, while nilla is an obvious sound and also somewhat feminine.

    In fairness and for parallelism’s sake, it should be chosen by someone non-white. Any ideas?

    Fortunately Gavin is not white and can choose nilla.

  94. xyzzy said,

    July 17, 2008 at 17:56

    But of course, to conservatives, that’s different.

    I submit that in the interests of clarity, the word “conservatives” should be in quotes.

  95. Righteous Bubba said,

    July 17, 2008 at 18:01

    I submit that in the interests of clarity, the word “conservatives” should be in quotes.

    I thought “clownservative” and then thought somebody’s gotta have done that and BEHOLD!

  96. Quaker in a (Colorado) Basement said,

    July 17, 2008 at 18:14

    My favorite was always “peckerwood.”

  97. lobbey said,

    July 17, 2008 at 18:56

    The Brit expression ‘chav’ is pretty good.

    Our own version north of the border is ‘ned’, again, no colour connotations, but I’m struggling to remember ever seeing a non white ned.

  98. slackor said,

    July 17, 2008 at 19:21

    hmmm

    no votes for cracker ass cracker?

  99. another jim said,

    July 17, 2008 at 22:05

    Years ago, Chris Rock recommended “Yaku” as a good replacement for the more harmless-sounding “honkie”.

    I think I’ve also heard of “ofay” being used; perhaps of African origin?

    And Roots used the word “Wasichu”…

  100. another jim said,

    July 17, 2008 at 22:08

    Oh, and the famed Church of the Subgenius used “pinkboy”. More to refer to a whole square / greedy / duped outlook, but definitely can apply to honkies…

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    July 17, 2008 at 22:28

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  105. owlbear1 said,

    July 18, 2008 at 0:58

    Whatever the final pejorative turns out to be? We still need a few lynchings to seal ’shock’ factor for the word.

    Dozen or so should be enough. Maybe even broken down along racial lines?

    Everybody gets a chance at those dirty “insert pejorative here“!!

    Harsh? Shared degradation always is…

    Also, here is an excellent chance for ANY of the “white superiority ilk” to attain martyrdom.

    I think it would be a good idea to finalize the actual word before going ahead with finding locations for the lynchings.
    Then, of course, there is also the matter of recruiting a few angry lynch mobs.

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    July 18, 2008 at 1:07

    If you’re going to go all phonetic, what about Yankee Tango?

    Y-T.

    See?

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    I’ll get me coat.

  107. Brandi said,

    July 18, 2008 at 4:47

    If you’re going to go all phonetic, what about Yankee Tango?

    Well, it does have the bonus of pissing off those “War of Northern Aggression!” Southerners…

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  111. Major Woody said,

    July 18, 2008 at 18:42

    kia said,

    “Arnold.” It began as “pig,” went to “pork,” and then evolved into the name of the pet pig on the TV show “Green Acres.”

    This, of course, is incorrect. The name of the pig on Green Acres was Eva Gabor.

    Thank you, thank you.

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