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Hanoi John McCain exposed!!!
For a while now, the Editors has been promoting the crazy claims of Crazy Bob Dornan, who seems to think that the Vietcong implanted radio receivers in John McCain’s teeth during his captivity to send him subliminal pro-commie messages and turn him into a 21st-Century Manchurian Candidate. I don’t normally give these sorts of claims much credence, but now I think we may have found the proof that will blow this story wide open (emphasis mine):
‘Hanoi Hilton’ jailer says he’d vote for McCain
John McCain has an unusual endorsement — from the Vietnamese jailer who says he held him captive for about five years as a POW and now considers him a friend.
“If I were an American voter, I would vote for Mr. John McCain,” Tran Trong Duyet said Friday, sitting in his living room in the northern city of Haiphong, surrounded by black-and-white photos of a much younger version of himself and former Vietnam War prisoners. [...]
Duyet said one of the reasons he likes McCain for president is the candidate’s willingness to forgive and look to the future. [...]
Duyet, 75, grew testy during the interview when repeatedly questioned about torture and why so many other former POWs say they too were mistreated. He preferred to talk about McCain as an old buddy.
His photo collection doesn’t include one of him with POW McCain, and he said they have not met on any of McCain’s postwar visits to Vietnam. But Duyet said he often met the young Navy pilot when off duty, that McCain would correct his English, and that he had a great sense of humor. And although they never saw eye-to-eye on the war that killed some 58,000 Americans and up to 3 million Vietnamese, he said they listened to each others’ views.
Now obviously this doesn’t prove per se that John McCain is a VC plant who will give away all our defense secrets to the Red Chinese upon taking office. It does, however, raise some questions. Why was McCain so friendly with this particular jailer? What views did the jailer express that McCain “listened” to while in captivity? Why does one of America’s sworn enemies think we should vote for McCain for president? What “future” do McCain and the jailer look forward to together? A future of freedom and prosperity? Or a future where hard-working American boys will be forced to toil in Charlie’s slave labor camps while the VC has its way with our women folk? So, so many questions; I wonder if mainstream reporters will start asking them, just like they did when this guy was running for president.
Crazy Bob? What do you think?
Lesley said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:09
Why was McCain so friendly with this particular jailer? What views did the jailer express that McCain “listened” to while in captivity?
Isn’t this called Stockholm Syndrome?
stringonastick said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:15
He’s apparently got quite the history with the Stockholm Syndrome. Between this bit of evidence and the way he’s still willing to be a rethuglican after the many Bush-imspired ratfucks that cost him the 2000 nomination, well, it just seems obvious.
Brad R. said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:16
He’s apparently got quite the history with the Stockholm Syndrome. Between this bit of evidence and the way he’s still willing to be a rethuglican after the many Bush-imspired ratfucks that cost him the 2000 nomination, well, it just seems obvious.
Indeed. I think it might be time to question whether the entire Republican Party is just a covert VC operation.
Lesley said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:24
Tran Trong Duyet said Friday, sitting in his living room in the northern city of Haiphong, surrounded by black-and-white photos of a much younger version of himself and former Vietnam War prisoners.
in the psycho-biz this is called shithouse-rat crazy syndrome
Brad R. said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:25
in the psycho-biz this is called shithouse-rat crazy syndrome
It sure is.
And why does he feel such an affinity for McCain? So many questions.
(God, peddling baseless smears is fun. I can see why the wingnuts had so much fun doing this against Kerry four years ago.)
Snorghagen said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:37
It’s worse than that, much worse. This is clear evidence that McCain is planning to open the gates to the hordes of heavily armed, boner-brandishing East Asian sex maniacs that are swarming towards our borders, intent on overthrowing civilization as prophesized by Nurse Jill.
bago said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:38
Once you go brown you just keep going down?
Lesley said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:40
the jailer’s affinity for his pet POWs is akin to the way a cat feels about its mouse tail collection.
Amlodhi said,
June 28, 2008 at 21:53
I believe you are referring to Helsinki Syndrome.
Gary Ruppert said,
June 28, 2008 at 22:00
(God, peddling baseless smears is fun. I can see why the wingnuts had so much fun doing this against Kerry four years ago.)
The fact is, indeed it is. It gave us that roller-coaster feeling in our pee-pees.
Gerald Curl said,
June 28, 2008 at 22:26
In this role-playing, can I be Malkin? Let me try:
Why don’t people ask McCain more specific questions about the radio receivers in his head? They are legitimate questions about whether or not he deliberately flew his plane into anti-aircraft fire or even earlier, tried to sink the U.S.S. Forrestal. Some sailors are saying it. Okay, they’re not saying it exactly but there are rumors. Okay, not rumors, but the kerning…have you checked the kerning? No wait, the countertops — his Chi-Comm handlers transmit instructions through the granite countertops! We’re through the looking glass, people! GAWD … where’s my fucking undercover cheerleader outfit?!
Whoa, I just came back from a very bad place.
Todays Current Events in Politics » Alert - “John McCain” said,
June 28, 2008 at 22:35
[...] Hanoi John McCain exposed!!! By Brad For a while now, the Editors has been promoting the crazy claims of Crazy Bob Dornan, who seems to think that the Vietcong implanted radio receivers in John McCain?s teeth during his captivity to send him subliminal pro-commie messages … Sadly, No! - http://www.sadlyno.com [...]
Smiling Mortician said,
June 28, 2008 at 22:52
Today’s fake Gary is delightfully whimsical. I give him a 9.
Andrew A. Gill, SLS said,
June 28, 2008 at 22:58
You know, I think this Manchurian Candidate thing is just salacious gossip.
Now salacious gossip can be fun, but please observe these rules:
1.) McCain is *a* Manchurian Candidate, not *the* Manchurian Candidate.
2.) By way of extension, John McCain never had sex with his mother.
Please! Sometimes I eat while I read Sadly, No! and I do not want to see anyone talking about geriatric incest.
Auguste said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:03
Don’t they call this Lima Syndrome?
steve terranova said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:13
I don’t see why we don’t just go for McCain’s jugular on this subject. His POW record is one of a guy who couldn’t wait to capitulate and tell them his father was an Admiral to get special treatment. It would sure be nice to get hold of those 32 propaganda tapes he made, as well. Somebody must have them (or at least the transcripts). Even this jailer said that McCain made up the stories of torture to get votes.
Matt T. said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:19
I, for one, welcome our East Asian sex maniac overlords. Not sure where the downside to this particular new world order is supposed to be. Sort of like if Obama wins and turns the country into George Clinton’s wildest dream, I’m down with it, personally.
WereBear said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:20
Nah, this is the widely known Suck-Up Syndrome.
Whatever McCain did or didn’t do in the past, he’s a world class suck-up now. He’s not even letting the last statement cool on the stovetop before he turns around and says the opposite.
I know is status as a POW is supposed to be sacrosanct, but he did experience something that made him make pro-captor sentiments at the time.
So either he knows torture can make people lie, or he truly hates America.
Pick one.
Doc Washboard said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:42
Well, remember: he has said many times that he didn’t love America until he became a POW–until he was “deprived of her company” is the way I think he puts it.
It’s flabbergasting–yet, at the same time, my gast is not at all flabbered–to learn that the news media has done nothing with this information except, I guess, to launch renewed attacks against Michelle Obama.
Moon Dragon said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:42
Now obviously this doesn’t prove per se that John McCain is a VC plant who will give away all our defense secrets to the Red Chinese upon taking office.
North Vietnam was a Soviet client state. Pooty Poot will be pulling his chain. I’m not sure if that’s better or worse than the Chinese.
Mr. Wonderful said,
June 28, 2008 at 23:56
“God, peddling baseless smears is fun.”
Isn’t “fun” beside the point? Isn’t the point that it would be irresponsible
not to peddle them?
Lee said,
June 29, 2008 at 0:23
I’m kind of enjoying the whole secret identity trope that’s going on in this election cycle. Now that we’ve established that the presidential decision is between a Secret Muslim(tm) and a Secret Commie(trademarks are theft), I think it’s time to start putting bets on vice presidential secrets. Personally, I think Obama will go with a Secret Royalist.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:22
I’m not saying that JiSM3 has the same views as the gooks, but if Senator McCain is favored by
HamasViet Cong torturers I think people can make judgments accordingly.Rightwingsnarkle said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:25
Crazy Bob? What do you think?
If you mean former Senator Bob Smith (R-NH), yes, absolutely. Complete nut bag, perhaps second only to former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) in overall Capitol Hill nuttiness.
New Hampshire really likes sending the clinically insane to Washington, for some twisted reason.
As for John Kerry and his family, I really did not know about the exclusive deal they cut. I’m interested in buying some land over in Vietnam, so I can enjoy a low-cost retirement.
I guess I better call his office.
MzNicky said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:26
Once you go brown you just keep going down?
Brown? I thought them Asiatics were yeller. Or is that them Orientalists? Dang, it’s hard to keep track o’ which coloreds are which!
Snorghagen said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:26
I’d prefer something more exotic, like Secret Space Alien. And McCain could pick a Secret Demon from the Sixth Pit of Hell for his running mate, just to flummox his fundie supporters. I’m sure they’d adjust, though.
MzNicky said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:29
Whoa, I just came back from a very bad place.
Gerald Curl, whose nym I love:
It’s okay, as it would be irresponsible of you not to speculate.
Clem said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:33
He is a Maine coon candidate. He is controlled by lolcats.
MzNicky said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:35
And besides which, I thought the North Vietnamese were baaad, having taken over after the hippies made Nixon end the war and all when we were totally winning, thus capitulating the entirety of Southeast Asia into godless communism and now what we’re seeing is the final black rectancular playing-piece fall in ultimate vindication of the Domino Theory.
Smut Clyde said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:36
Then there is the Oslo Syndrome, where you remain in the thrall of Norwegian Forest Cats.
MzNicky said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:37
Depending of course upon whether “capitulate” is a transitive or intransitive verb. Perhaps I meant “catapulting.” It’s Riesling night at Casa de Nicky.
Je support les troops said,
June 29, 2008 at 1:45
Hamas has “endorsed” Barack Obama. This is clearly a situation where the VietCong has “endorsed” John McCain. McCain is the VC’s man in Washington.
Clem said,
June 29, 2008 at 2:03
He suffers from Douglas Syndrome: he obeys cats from the Isle of Man. He is a Manx candidate.
Sporkey said,
June 29, 2008 at 2:21
Kinda off the topic, something in the article caught my eye:
Where have I heard this before? Oh, I know:
Sporkey said,
June 29, 2008 at 2:23
grr…link didn’t work: Hopefully, it works now.
Clint said,
June 29, 2008 at 2:24
For no reason whatsoever, I’m reminded of this Principal Skinner flashback from “The Simpsons”:
I spent the next three years in a POW camp, forced to subsist on a thin stew made of fish, vegetables, prawns, coconut milk and four kinds of rice. I came close to madness trying to find it here in the States, but they just can’t get the spices right.
Snorghagen said,
June 29, 2008 at 2:31
It’s well known that the Viet Cong were merely a front group for the Nazi saucermen from beyond the stars.
stryx said,
June 29, 2008 at 2:55
And although they never saw eye-to-eye on the war that killed some 58,000 Americans and up to 3 million Vietnamese
58,000 is widely quoted, but 3,000,000? Why isn’t that number part of the national consciousness? No wonder JSM3 thinks Iraq is no big deal.
Principal Skinner drove an all-terrain vehicle in Da Nang.
Woodrowfan said,
June 29, 2008 at 3:43
McCain could pick a Secret Demon from the Sixth Pit of Hell for his running mate
Cheney AGAIN???
Mo's Bike Shop said,
June 29, 2008 at 3:45
Details! When did McCain get off duty from cooperating with the VC?
I’d look it up myself, but I’m suffering from Amsterdam Syndrome.
Southern Beale said,
June 29, 2008 at 3:47
In other news, turns out the deadbeat McCains haven’t paid the taxes on their California condo in 4 years. They’ll be in default July 1.
Taxes: they’re for the little people!
WereBear said,
June 29, 2008 at 3:50
I’m sure there are other POW’s who are wondering if they were wrong to not leverage their experience into fame and fortune and marrying beer heiresses.
commie atheist said,
June 29, 2008 at 4:04
I love the McCain camp’s response:
Asked for a response, the McCain campaign referred The Associated Press to Orson Swindle, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was imprisoned with McCain. Swindle said Duyet “has no credibility on every utterance he makes.”
(snip)
“He says John McCain would make a great president. How the hell does he know? He has absolutely no credibility,” Swindle added.
Yes, the man that the McCain campaigned directed reporters to disagrees with someone’s assertion that McCain would make a great president. You can’t make this stuff up.
commie atheist said,
June 29, 2008 at 4:21
58,000 is widely quoted, but 3,000,000? Why isn’t that number part of the national consciousness? No wonder JSM3 thinks Iraq is no big deal.
Yeah, the fact that we killed 3 million Vietnamese - half the number of Jews that died in the Holocaust - seems to have gone under the radar somewhat.
Fuck…
Can’t even properly snark that one.
Hoosier X said,
June 29, 2008 at 4:37
I’m suffering from Morey Amsterdam syndrome. Whenever I meet a girl named Pickles, I want to marry her.
And the closest I usually get is Nedra Pickler.
Ugh.
stryx said,
June 29, 2008 at 4:52
commie, I think it’s better to say that ~3 million were killed.
There seems to be plenty of blame to go around.
I could use some Amsterdam Syndrome.
commie atheist said,
June 29, 2008 at 5:07
There seems to be plenty of blame to go around.
Out, damn’d spot! out, I say!—One; two: why, then
’tis time to do’t.—Hell is murky.—Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and
afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our
pow’r to accompt?—Yet who would have thought the old man to
have had so much blood in him?
ed said,
June 29, 2008 at 5:11
Hey! Lay off Johnny Songbird!
Smut Clyde said,
June 29, 2008 at 5:12
My Aalborg Syndrome. Let me show it to you.
Arky - Sexual Orient Express said,
June 29, 2008 at 5:41
This is the single most disgusting headline evar. H8 S,N!. H8!
Clem said,
June 29, 2008 at 7:21
Copenhagen Syndrome.
All your mermaid are belong to us.
ahem said,
June 29, 2008 at 7:31
Very much OT:
commie atheist said,
June 29, 2008 at 7:59
Blood in the streets in the town of New Haven
Blood stains the roofs and the palm trees of Venice
Blood in my love in the terrible summer
Bloody red sun of phantastic L.A.
Blood streams her brain as they chop off her fingers
Blood will be born in the birth of a nation
Blood is the rose of mysterious union
There’s blood in the streets, it’s up to my ankles
Blood in the streets, it’s up to my knee
Blood in the streets in the town of Chicago
Blood on the rise, it’s following me
Righteous Bubba said,
June 29, 2008 at 8:03
Those of you who know what Usenet is might want to check alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s for some National Lampoon musical stuff. Magical Misery Tour is not to be missed.
bago said,
June 29, 2008 at 8:52
Main Coon cats are fluffy. And Deadly.
lobbey said,
June 29, 2008 at 9:51
In the absence of the conditions leading to the Amsterdam Syndrome, I’m presently suffering from The Brussels Syndrome.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leemei/1293843365/
MajorKong said,
June 29, 2008 at 10:36
McCain has secured the critical retired North Vietnamese interrogator vote.
joeyess said,
June 29, 2008 at 10:58
Sorry, folks, anything that Crazy Bob Dornan signs onto, can’t be given much credence by myself. The last thing I want to do is lend an air of legitimacy to that whackadoo. No matter how much I hate John Sidney McIt’sInMyPurseHoney! I’d rather beat him the old fashioned way than climb aboard the batshit express that is Bob’s world.
bjacques said,
June 29, 2008 at 12:27
If you’re stuck in a pretty medieval town, you’re suffering from the Bruges Syndrome!
jon said,
June 29, 2008 at 16:54
If he’s good enough for the Viet Minh, then he’s good enough for me.
Vote the straight McCain/NLF ticket!
‘Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, NLF is gonna win!’ I thought I’d never see the day we finally put Vietnam behind us.
“John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.”
bobbyp said,
June 29, 2008 at 17:21
I’m with joeyess. ‘Bomber Bob’ is batshit crazy. Buyer beware.
g said,
June 29, 2008 at 17:49
Same here. Bob Dornan is a nut case
Jersey Tomato said,
June 29, 2008 at 18:03
Eh…I’m not so sure about the forgiveness part. Didn’t McCain recently say he’d hate gooks until the day he died? My daughter is Vietnamese. I’m looking forward to bringing my little gook into the voting booth with me so she can watch me vote for McCain’s opponent.
billy pilgrim said,
June 29, 2008 at 19:07
Don’t it make you wish we had a Mighty Wurlitzer of our own to pick this up and catapult it into the mainstream liberal media?
Jean said,
June 29, 2008 at 21:22
Laugh all you want, but there are republicans who believe he IS the Manchurian Candidate. My neighbors’ brother, a dyed in the wool guy, who has NEVER not voted republican, will be voting for Obama at last report because of the above.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 30, 2008 at 2:23
I wonder what they call people running for office in Manchuria?
Smut Clyde said,
June 30, 2008 at 4:07
In Manchuria, office runs for you!
Rikki said,
October 9, 2008 at 23:19
If I had been tortured, abused and humiliated by someone - anyone the day would never come that I would be friends with that person/persons yet alone pose for a picture with them.
I wouldn’t give them one second of my time or energy and I would hope that they would someday rot in hell because they are surely doing the devils work.
II believe that Mr. McCain is an angry old man and is a very arrogant, unstable person and shouldn’t even be a senator yet alone President of the USA. If he gets elected, we can all be afraid - REALLY AFRAID!!