I’ve just read the first comments and I must say :

VOTE FOR OBAMA. Maybe Obama is just another shiny but breakable toy that will desappoint every one, but we are sure that McCain is fucking dangerous.

The world get raped by your stupid cowboy president for 8 years, and you just say “oh whatever, politicians are all liars. I won’t bother voting this time” ?

If McCain wins, I’m sending my CV to Ben Laden.

WW2: Roosevelt… after promising isolationism… granted that was “necessary” but Pearl Harbor was no reason to invade France.

Actually, it was the Germans who declared war on us. I suppose we could have said, “no thanks” but it is considered very rude to refuse a war when one is offered.

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/johnson/65vn-2.htm

“Eisenhower order it’s initial planning but he never carried it out… who knows why.”
Because he knew it was a stinker so he stuck it on kennedy, who followed the plan to the T and approved naval air support outside of the plan. Dont quote wikipedia at me, read a book. (The Secret Government is one I recommend).

“Um, what the hell are you talking about?”

Im talking about what even your revisionist wiki article says, the exiles got thier asses handed to them.

And If you think everyone is always allowed to vote in a democracy you dont know shit about democracy, especially american democracy. nuff said.

Do I expect major change with Obama? No.

Am I excited? Yeah, but only because all the crackers are going to have a black president.

Also, after the past eight years, I’m looking forward to a president who can speak coherent English, even if it’s bullshit. I’m tired of hitting the mute button or changing stations.

It’s not a big thing. No, wait, it really is.

This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are. This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are. This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are. This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are. This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are. This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are. This is a paragraph describing how inept the current major candidates are.

This is a paragraph describing how I won’t vote for someone who doesn’t share my views entirely. This is a paragraph describing how I won’t vote for someone who doesn’t share my views entirely. This is a paragraph describing how I won’t vote for someone who doesn’t share my views entirely. This is a paragraph describing how I won’t vote for someone who doesn’t share my views entirely. This is a paragraph describing how I won’t vote for someone who doesn’t share my views entirely. This is a paragraph describing how I won’t vote for someone who doesn’t share my views entirely.

Given all that I’ve said, this is exactly why…I’m voting for Larry Johnson! Because he’s a lefty! I swear he is! I heard it once! I read something about it once! He’s clearly the candidate I’ve been waiting for! And if you dare question his motives/current credentials, instead of addressing the point, I’m just going to repeat the first thee paragraphs! I’m teh winnar!

Despite your well-reasoned, if profane, analysis of the winner take all system, it is in fact that system that is the problem.

Agreed, with one qualm*.

Parliaments, people. Coalition governments. They work. Fix the system. Who says that? Nobody in the US.

I’m with you, but it won’t happen in our lifetime or our children’s lifetimes. Sorry. And voting for a fraud like Nader wouldn’t/didn’t solve anything. Yes, I remember the calls in ’00…that Nader was gonna finally punch a hole in the two-party system! Woo!

Eight years later, and the big 2 are stronger than ever. What have we learned?

I won’t vote for Obama because he won’t fix what I want him to fix. That’s it. That’s what I vote for.

I’m for the legalization of things that Obama isn’t for. I’m anti-death penalty; he apparently is in extreme circumstances.

I’m voting for him because between he and the rest of the field, he combines best-chance-to-win with agrees-with-a-relevant-percentage-of-what-I-believe the best.

Compromise. If I voted for someone who was to fix what I wanted them to fix, I’d fucking vote for myself. I don’t think I’m on the ballot anywhere.

You can’t throw me off of principles

There’s one easy way to get out of a Chinese finger trap. You’re doing it wrong.

I will not support him on the streets because he does not support my positions on the issues that matter to me. I understand fully well that this place is packed with people from the west coast who truly care about things like gay marriage and animal rights that matter not at all to me. I want an end to militarism. I want a reform of the entire voting system.

Me too. There’s one mainstream candidate who’ll get us closer than the other mainstream candidates.

And then there’s ones who really follow this platform. They will not be elected. So.

Also, I will again note- if this was the ideal, if this was the plan, why did people vote for Freaking RALPH NADER? Why? Why? Why didn’t anyone do any research beyond the grade-school-biography of the man and his ridiculous platitudes?

If anyone’s willing to actually stand up for these things, I’ll march. Otherwise, YOU fuck off, douchebag, because you’re arguing about the relative merits of Cheetos vs. Doritos when the real issue comes to people living and dying.

No, I’m arguing about the relative merits of Cheetos and a lobotomy, while you’re harping that neither are good for you. Well you’re right, congrats, but if I’ve got to choose friggin one of them, I’ll go with the Jonah snacks, thanks.

PS Scandinavia is gorgeous this time of year. Especially Copenhagen. Socialism, why not? Really, why not?

1) I got my ass kicked royally in taxes this year. I’d like to not make it worse.
2) No black people. I live in Atlanta. I enjoy the mix.
3) Just leave, if you wanna. Nothing’s stopping you. We’re all broken here; nothing worth saving.

* Winner-takes-all generally takes the fringe loonies out of play. As much as I’d love to see more progressive ideals promoted in federal government, a parliamentary system would result in some serious Fred Phelps types being able to pass laws. We could work it out by, you know, defeating these wackadoos at the polls, but heebie-jeebies nonetheless.

Jillian, I live in Florida too, so I might just take you up on that.

Does it matter if I was planning to vote for the Democrat anyway, even if I am not at all enthusiastic about it?

Despite your well-reasoned, if profane, analysis of the winner take all system, it is in fact that system that is the problem. Parliaments, people. Coalition governments. They work. Fix the system. Who says that? Nobody in the US.

I won’t vote for Obama because he won’t fix what I want him to fix. That’s it. That’s what I vote for. You can’t throw me off of principles by swearing and logic that amounts to an obscene 10th grade civics class. Get a grip.

In my state, Illinois, Obama will almost assuredly win. Therefore, my vote DOESN’T COUNT. If we had a different system, it would. So I’m not voting for anyone.

I will not support him on the streets because he does not support my positions on the issues that matter to me. I understand fully well that this place is packed with people from the west coast who truly care about things like gay marriage and animal rights that matter not at all to me. I want an end to militarism. I want a reform of the entire voting system. Sounds ludicrous, right? But so did an end to segregation.

If anyone’s willing to actually stand up for these things, I’ll march. Otherwise, YOU fuck off, douchebag, because you’re arguing about the relative merits of Cheetos vs. Doritos when the real issue comes to people living and dying.

PS Scandinavia is gorgeous this time of year. Especially Copenhagen. Socialism, why not? Really, why not?