Jun
24

Notes On The Larry Johnson Tragedy [Updated]




Posted at 23:37 by Gavin M.

The bell has tolled: The American Prospect has a hard-edged piece today on Larry Johnson’s rise and fall as a liberal hero. Alas, Johnson.

There’s a bit more to say, though. The problem wasn’t just that Larry went so hard for Hillary Clinton that he began crediting nasty right-wing smears against other candidates: A lot of other liberal bloggers fell into the same trap, to some extent or another, and indeed some of them did us the courtesy of swinging by and going apeshit in comments, where it at least jazzed up our otherwise creaky and threadbare act. The problem seems more in the fact that Johnson is the sort of guy who experiences argument as affront — one of those forceful but brittle people we’ve all encountered who, if you tell them they’re doing something that drives you crazy, will feel compelled to double down and do it even harder, just to prove (perhaps to themselves) that you can’t tell them what to say or do.

The Prospect piece covers Larry’s mongering of the Michelle Obama ‘whitey’ rumor, but even that isn’t such a big deal in itself. A lot of wack narratives and mudclot rumors were slung around during the Democratic primary this season, and as we’ve seen with Corrente, Talk Left, and most of the other heavy-hitting Clinton sites, folks have tended to forget their differences pretty quickly since June 3rd, when no doubt remained as to who would be the Democratic nominee. What’s become a bigger deal is that as the complaints and protests mounted against the bogus ‘whitey’ thing and other such anti-Obama rumoroids and memelets, Johnson upped the rancor. He kept it up even after Clinton suspended her campaign, and even now shows no sign of stopping. His advocacy is, in short, an activity no longer coupled to cause-and-effect, to a rational sense of outcome. It has become the obsessive work of a Clinton cargo cultist, a bitter-ender, a retailer of spite.

Johnson’s latest idée fixe has been an as-yet-unspecified scandal believed to be encoded in a JPEG scan of a copy of Obama’s birth certificate — a field of inquiry in which his efforts have exactly paralleled those of the far-right Freeper crazies. In fact you can read the former piece, a stupendously ding-whoop, yar-yar investigative cowflop emitted by Johnson’s co-blogger TexasDarlin, either at Johnson’s No Quarter site, or at Free Republic. A comparison of the comments at the two sites is guaranteed to make you wonder who’s on which side, and why. Try it and see if you don’t come away lightheaded yet crushingly sober. Who are these people?

An irony that often attends upon characters like Larry Johnson (i.e. spooks and related personality types) is that they can be genuinely stunned and hurt when opinion turns against them. The irony dwells in the fact that their professional-issue, otherwise adaptive touch of narcissism can lead them to engage in provocative, chaos-seeking behavior, firstly without realizing that they’re doing it, and secondly without realizing that they’re doing it specifically to make people react. Sometimes this leads to gems and riches, as when Johnson hilariously left cranky notes in David Brooks’s mailbox. Sometimes, though, it just makes you want to crawl under the bed until the yeek goes away. Note to Johnson: It’s dusty under here; please just stop.


Update:

Candy asked if we could fix Johnson’s Agent Flowbee hairdo, and Rightwingsnarkle and Paul G provided the following solutions (hair at right courtesy Donnie Osmond):

   

Also, if anyone’s in the mood to stare into the heart of the sun, there’s a movement building in the Clinton-or-else cargo cult that leaves behind even Lambert of Corrente, one of the most grudging of hatchet-buryers:

The prog-bloggers kept shouting: Go! Go! Leave us, Clintonistas! This is OUR party now. Get out out OUT!

So out we went.

And we ain’t coming back soon.

[...] We will not forgive those who bigot-baited us simply because we refuse to doublethink our way around the Lightbringer’s nonstop lies.

We have only one way to cleanse the party of Moulitsas, Stassinopoulos, Aravosis, Marshall, Obama, Axelrod, Plouffe, Dean, Brazile and all those other pieces of subhuman sewage. We must make sure that Obama fails — either in August (very unlikely) or in November (more likely) or, if need be, in his presidency.

After that, and only after that, comes unity. On our terms.

There’s a larger (and I think more interesting) story here, but what’s striking at the moment is how quickly, in this Internet age, dunces can organize into confederacies.

336 Comments »

  1. Gary Ruppert said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:43

    The fact is, fix the layout. You liberals.

  2. Innocent Bystander said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:43

    Lets not forget Cannonfire Blog in the list of sites that have gone off the deep end in their devotion to all things Hillary. I liked his stuff on the Republican front companies in Poway…but I can’t read his stuff anymore.

  3. fardels bear said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:46

    According to some commentators over at No Quarters (how about dimes?) the birth certificate question is Extremely Important because it proves that Obama is not a natural born US citizen and therefore cannot be President.

    You call him crazy, but that is what they said about Son of Sam.

  4. PeeJ said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:46

    Vernor Vinge’s strong suit is mediocrity.

  5. PeeJ said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:47

    Oops. Wrong thread.

    And fuck you WordPress, with a 23 inch fusion powered buttplug.

  6. Jesse Taylor said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:49

    All this is to get to the real point – Ann Durham was the true anti-Hillary, and Barack Obama was merely the Darth Vader to her Emperor.

  7. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:49

    Barachmed HUSSEIN Osbama’s Black Panzers are no match for the Endless Game of Quarters!

  8. Lesley said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:52

    Unfortunately, I have to echo Gary Ruppert’s first comment. The layout for this item is messed up. It stretches across the screen and the sidebar on the right is lying on top of half of the words.

  9. JoshA said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:54

    And LJ and NQ actually won the Balloon Juice contest of “who will be the first to claim that if you speak against the Obamessiah, you get arrested” beating out both FR and Redstate.

    They’re a special type of crazy.

  10. Tom65 said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:54

    I’m still convinced that Agent Flowbee is running a false-flag operation at NoQuarter. It’s got to be some kind of Rovian long-con, right?

  11. FuriousGiorge said,

    June 24, 2008 at 23:57

    Clicking through No Quarter is the closest I hope to ever come to trudging through a post-Apocalyptic wasteland.

  12. sagra said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:01

    Is this the Flowbee guy?

    If not, he should be.

  13. Dan said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:02

    I’ll echo the fact that the formatting for this post is f’ed up… words stretch behind and to the right of the banner ads on the right hand side of the page…

  14. KingCranky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:03

    Johnson was one of the good guys when it came to standing up to Bush Jr regarding the treasonous outing of Valerie Plame.

    But I took his site off my blogroll when it became obvious just how badly he got played, especially with the “Michelle Obama yelled Whitey” nonsense, and I’m not even an Obama supporter.

    IF such a recording existed, there’s no way the Clinton campaign would have held off on using it during the primaries.

    The Bush Jr lackeys played the Hillary voters upset about Obama’s success as fools, and it’s sad that Johnson fell into that trap the way he did.

  15. Unree said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:04

    I switched to Firefox from IE and the layout problem vanished.

  16. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:05

    It’s fine here on Firefox 3. What browser are you using?

  17. fadgeophile said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:10

    Yeah, my firefox is foxy as ever, and sans formatting errors.

    There is the issue of the smiling buffoon that I can’t seem to rid the page of, however…

  18. monkey knife fight said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:16

    The post looks fine in Firefox 3, but is totally screwed when using IE.

  19. JR said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:17

    I mentioned this in the last post, but in the comments of the most recent expose on BirthCertifiGate on NQ, they are seriously discussing hiring Dog the Bounty Hunter to investigate.

  20. Red said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:22

    I can’t submit anything, anywhere, much longer than this; and long forms are right out. Any ideas from anyone?

  21. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:23

    Once again we learn that IE iz teh DEVIL.

  22. Doctorb said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:25

    It looks fine on my jinkety-assed homescript browser dogg

  23. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:37

    I must agree with Comrade Gary Ruppert and Lesley. Please fix the layout. All I have to work with is IE. My comp is too old and weak to handle FF.

  24. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:38

    Works fine on a WebKit-based browser (same engine used by Apple Safari), although the comment box goes off into the archive date list.

    I am using a self-built copy of Linux. On a handheld ARM-based computer. Furthermore, I demand you make your Web site compatible with this environment.

    THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN YOU THINK

  25. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:40

    Wow, I thought that didn’t post and I had tapped all that out for nothing. I was going to say I felt like such a dork but…I still feel like a huge dork.

  26. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:42

    Safari looks good. Well, the comment box looks like it’s extending way out there into the uh omg where am I — oh, there I am. I remember the comment boxes used to do this soeoh no! Oh, whew. Otherwise, it looks fine.

  27. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:42

    Oh yeah? You gonna make me put a web browser on the green board sitting on my desk? Well I would I tell you but I haven’t successfully gotten a ROM monitor up yet; I *think* my homebrew bootloader is handing off…. Well if I could I would. So there. phtphtphptphtt

    PS – looks fine with Opera

  28. Bistroist said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:45

    Looks fine in FF2, different kinds of fucked in IE6 (text spills out over the right margin) and Opera 9.27 (body text is tiny, comments, sidebar, etc. same size as always).

  29. johnbinpt said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:46

    Sounds like Larry J. got revenge ratfucked by the repugs with that bogus “whitey” tape story. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, in my opinion.

  30. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:46

    Seriously, though, guys, I imagine that Gavin is aware of the Internet traditions problem and working on it. These IE-Mozilla issues can be a bitch to track down and fix, because there’s lots of subtle bugs/misfeatures between the two browsers.

  31. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:47

    Don’t panic MzNicky, we’ll throw you a line if you drift too far to the right!

  32. Theron said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:49

    Well I just cut and paste it into Word and read it just fine. Wait, that’s kinda goofy. Oh well, it worked.

  33. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:52

    I’ve got the tiny text, the extension over the right margin, and text lying under the banner. Tiny text in the comment box too. The comments themselves look perfectly normal. Preview is tiny.

    I don’t know nuthin’ ’bout these fancy Firefox and Opera and Safari things you kids are talking about. You kids get offa my lawn!

    The Kid is using Firefox – note that my 16 year old has a way better computer than I do, and he picked his up off the curb* – but he thinks Firefox would be too demanding for my elderly laptop. Does that sound right?

    *He was kind enough to give me the printer. It’s a great little printer. Curb shopping, the Bon Marche of the poor.

  34. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:54

    he thinks Firefox would be too demanding for my elderly laptop.

    Firefox has gotten smaller and zippier. Try it out.

  35. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:54

    Gavin, could you fix Mr. Johnson’s hair while you’re at it? Just Pshop Roger Clyne’s hair right on to Mr. Johnson’s bowling ball head.

  36. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:55

    Thanx Arky. I’m using Firefox 2.0.0.8 now and it looks fine still to me. Let’s see if a comment goes too far — yay! I’m safe.

    It pains me greatly to see some of my fave fem sites being inundated with obvious ratfuckers egging on the McInsane meme and exploiting the heartbreak and seething anger over Hillary’s defeat. Combined with the Larry Johnsonesque nutballs and the predictable return of the usual sexist shithead trolls, it’s quite the taxing task to coax some of our otherwise-sensible sisters back from the edge. What a fucking political season. I’ve never seen anything like it, and I’ve been voting since dear George McGovern was the Dem nominee.

  37. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:55

    Thanks, RB. I’ll do that.

  38. Tinfoil Hat Salesman, Tinfoil Hat Sales, Inc. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:55

    No Quarter=No Fucking Around.

    Michelle DOES hate whitey.

    Barack IS a secret muslim born on the moon.

    Hillary IS the goddess and overlord of all that is good and true.

    How can I disagree?

    They’re SUCH good customers…

  39. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:56

    If Larry gets mad at something I say, does he cut off my Johnson?

  40. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 0:57

    Candy: Is the laptop a Mac? If so Safari may do fine. Firefox can fuck with Macs a bit in my opinion, although it’s good on my office PC. Then again I don’t know what I’m talking about, really.

  41. Pammycakes Atlas said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:02

    The irony dwells in the fact that their professional-issue, otherwise adaptive touch of narcissism can lead them to engage in provocative, chaos-seeking behavior, firstly without realizing that they’re doing it, and secondly without realizing that they’re doing it specifically to make people react.

    But this one goes to 11 …

  42. mikey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:04

    I’m using FF3 on the stupid vista boatanchor at work and all is well.

    Well, as well as things might ever be in a Vista/Office environment.

    Hell, I can’t even get FrostWire to work right on this PoC.

    If’n ya can’t download music illegally from work, what’s the point of living…

    mikey

  43. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:05

    For some reason the kerning on this post is a little odd …

  44. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:06

    I’m sure it’s nothing …

  45. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:07

    Firefox can fuck with Macs a bit in my opinion

    Upgrade. It used to be a pig, now it is not.

  46. slag said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:08

    Poor Larry Johnson. It’s the bowl cut. It makes people crazy.

  47. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:16

    MzNicky: It’s a PC.

    I really don’t know anything at all about such like. I had a web tv up until 2004, and it was the first computer I’d owned. Made for a really big monitor, its only advantage. (It was so slow that when I fired it up in the morning, I’d go and make coffee and by the time I got back to the living room it would usually be ready to go.) I’m proficient at work-related things such as Word and Excel, though, due to training provided in my corporate borg. And I’m well versed in all internet traditions, thanks to the multi-shirking skills I learned on the job. A friend and I also co-wrote a really bad and sorta dirty novel via email while at our respective jobs. My corporate career wasn’t a total waste of time, I guess.

  48. ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:16

    Secret Agent Flowbee needs a Mohawk.

    Then I might begin to take him seriously again.

  49. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:19

    Is fixed, the page?

  50. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:20

    Yep, Gavin, all is perfect!

  51. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:33

    Speaking of driving people crazy…

    Don Wildmon’s AFA is all agoogoo over a Heinz ad that’s running in England.

    *I* think it’s a cute ad.
    So they have a site to send your complaints to Heinz. Y’all drop by and send a message after changing their boilerplate to something more appropriate, won’t you now?

  52. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:36

    *I* think it’s a cute ad.

    It’s a cute ad and I think it would have run fine prior to, say, 1975, but don’t you figger the folks who are pitching a fit are the kind of people who have lotsa mayo in the fridge?

  53. ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:37

    Heinz has got themselves into a hell of a pickel.

  54. Me said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:42

    I’ve always been a bit wary of some of the bedfellows the left has picked up over the past few years. Granted, at one point it was so lonely on the left that we (I’ll use the collective pronoun for convenience’ sake) would’ve welcomed just about anyone to our side.

    But I never understood making common cause with CIA spooks, and yeah, that includes the Plame-Wilsons. Since when is the CIA a friend of the left? Have we all forgotten the shoddy history of that organization?

    We’ll probably never know what Valerie Plame was really doing in her official capacity, and I’ve got a feeling that it’s probably best that way.

  55. UN Plaza said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:42

    Thanks for the proper spelling of “wack.”

  56. Gary Ruppert said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:46

    The fact is, the post has been fixed and read. Yo8u liberals mock Larry Johnson’s excellent work in denunking the myth of the Barry White Hussein Obambi. The fact of the matter is, the joke will be on all of you when American learns the truth and McCain slaughters him at the polls like he’s Charlie and he’s back in Nam.

  57. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:48

    denunking

    I prefer de Lion King.

  58. Brandi said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:48

    As of this post time, the formatting looks just fine under Opera 9.50.

  59. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:52

    Looks okay on Lynx.

  60. Larry Johnson Autoresponder™ v2.1 said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:53

    This attempt to smear and discredit me is a plot hatched by Obama and his black Muslim co-conspirators. They killed the political career of the Anointed One, Her Highness Hillary Clinton. And now they’re planning to assassinate her.

    I’ve got the evidence on videotape! Really I do! I plan to unleash it next week… or maybe the week after.

  61. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:53

    *I* think it’s a cute ad.

    Eh, it’s a bit cornball but then I’m not the kind who likes sentimental stuff.

    Part of me still reacts as I was conditioned to by my Catholic upbringing even though I’ve been doing that very thing (kissing a guy) for almost two years now. Most of my friends are gay, in relationships (that involve kissing!), etc. It should be old hat at this point, but meh.

    Cynical me says that the ad agency that did that ad did that with an angle towards this precise reaction out of the wingers.

    What I don’t understand is how an American organization thinks they have any pull over British television markets. Their members would’ve stayed in blissful ignorance had it not been for that YouTube. No one is forcing them to watch the video, etc.

    If I didn’t know better I’d think they like videos of boys kissing.

  62. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 1:54

    Looks okay on Lynx.

    I wonder how many people don’t know what that is.

  63. Djur said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:03

    Simba: Luddite. What, don’t have enough RAM for elinks?

  64. Smiling Mortician said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:06

    the joke will be on all of you when American learns the truth and McCain slaughters him

    Yeah, that sounds about right.

  65. Lesley said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:15

    ok, now that i’m home and on firefox it looks fine. at work we have the stupid IE browser for some stupid reason known only to the archaic tech dept.

    larry johnson looks like a monastic elizabethan catholic. the hair, the shirt, the eyes, the teeth. He could be an assassin for the Pope.

  66. John O said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:21

    This is the best blog on the intertoobs, at least from one rapt reader’s point of view.

    I think scorn and laughter are far underused political tools.

    Thank you, again.

  67. MileHi Hawkeye said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:23

    I love it when you guys get all geeky.

  68. Red said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:24

    This looks/works just fine under w3m. It’s like lynx, only better.
    As for why it puts you into nano to edit large text fields such as
    this one, I have no clue. This is the first time I’ve ever even used
    nano; at this point I’m much more comfortable in vi and vi variants.

    Also, Larry Johnson is a scat muncher. I have video with him and Joe
    Lieberman. Look for the release of 2dinos1cup sometime next week.

  69. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:34

    Gavin, this does not look right. I’m using Old Duke v. 4.05 liters.

  70. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:39

    Just to prove the sheer pedantry of this site, I dare someone to find the first version of Internet Explorer and try it.

    Bonus points for trying the Unix version (yes, Virginia, it did exist).

    Bonus points for doing it on a VAX.

  71. LA Confidential Pantload said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:45

    NQ also finally took the plunge into the Larry Sinclair faggoty-cokehead circus…and did it in spectacular full-metal-paranoid form. Gotta love ‘em a whole lot more than LGF and Freeperland, ’cause they have all the wingnut talking points PLUS Lyndon Larouche. Outstanding!

  72. mikey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:52

    Bonus points for doing it on a VAX.

    Hell, that’s easy.

    More bonus points if you can do it on a microVAX…

    mikey

  73. fardels bear said,

    June 25, 2008 at 2:56

    on a microvax while riding a unicycle! Wearing hockey goalie gloves!

  74. Hoosier X said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:00

    The “Michelle Obama said ‘whitey’!” meme was particularly stupid because who gives a shit if Michelle Obama said ‘whitey!’?

    I knew it was stupid (and false) when it started, but it’s one of those ‘irrelevant even if true’ memes that the Repugs are so adept at wetting their beds over.

    Michelle Obama said ‘whitey’? Yeah? And …?

  75. billy pilgrim said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:01

    FF3 still feels a bit more balky on my Mac than Safari.

    Do I get any points for using Cyberdog?

  76. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:02

    Oh yeah, well real Islamo-1337-homo-atheists read this page by extrapolating the contents based on fast food delivery orders to branch Total Information Awarenss Offices…oh wait, we’ve already done this.

  77. Whitey™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:08

    Michelle Obama said ‘whitey’? Yeah? And …?

    Because, Hoosier X, it’s merely one short step (and three bunny hops) from “just saying” whitey to the Department of Hating Whitey!one1!

  78. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:08

    Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:02

    My first trackback!

  79. Twernt Nuthin said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:18

    I’m using an Etch-a-Sketch and it looks all right to me.

  80. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:21

    He could be an assassin for the Pope.
    He failed the Albinism test.

  81. Soullite said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:22

    Correntewire forgot their differences? A couple of front pagers have, but Lambert’s psychotic ass has a front page every day about the evils of the OFB and our attempts to have him put Up Against The Wall!!!!

    Seriously, It’ll be a real travesty if those whackjobs survive Blogroll Amestry Day ’09.

  82. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:23

    I’m using the Anonymous version of Mosaic, it’s called Pixellated Features.

  83. LA Confidential Pantload said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:24

    Y’know, here in Philadelphia the late Richie Ashburn was known as “Whitey.” I have no idea why Michelle Obama hates him.

    Hard to believe, Harry……

  84. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:26

    Candy: When I was a magazine editor at a way cool place here that’s now long gone, we did a serial graphic sex novel. Each editor would do a chapter then pass it on to the next. Some of us chose to incorporate the personalities and gossipy experiences of coworkers into it. It was the best. Too bad we never had it published. Of course, we’d all have been killed by now.

  85. acrannymint said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:26

    This is totally OT but I just discovered this while surfing the intertubes.
    There is a really great song called one by The Chad Mitchell Trio. I have stumbled on an updated version called The John Birch Society
    that was done by The Chad Mitchell Trio. I have stumbled on an updated version called The George Bush Society also by the Chad Mitchell trio (looking very long in the tooth)

  86. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:27

    Gavin, the kerning on this post does not look right in HyperCard v. 1.02 on my Mac SE.

  87. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:28

    I’m using an Etch-a-Sketch and it looks all right to me.
    I used a kachenko mask with a speaking tube, called Epiktistes. I made his frame from the best sticks and chanted him full of the best magic and placed all my special treasures in his cheek pouches. The page was fine.

    [/ R. A. Lafferty]

  88. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:30

    I’m not the kind who likes sentimental stuff.

    Simba B: I agree. I’ve always cringed at teh manipulative use of kids in movies and commericals, especially when they’re preternaturally sophisticated and smug as shit. eww.

  89. acrannymint said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:31

    arrghh – the original was The John Birch Society

  90. mikey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:35

    I can so relate.

    I rendered this page by sketching it in the red mud with a twig.

    At midnight we’ll be moving two squads against Larry’s left ear.

    If we can eliminate the outer defenses, we’ll call arty on his hair.

    If we can’t hold, we’ll blow the claymores and pull back to his underpants…

    mikey

  91. acrannymint said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:35

    Okay – so the original post disappeared

    There is a remake of The John Birch Society called The George Bush Society

  92. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:35

    who gives a shit if Michelle Obama said ‘whitey!’?

    Are you kidding? Only the entirety of the Rethuglican base. That means she’s a racist. A nigra* racist — the worst kind!

    ________________

    *Southern belle sweetspeak.

  93. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:36

    I think I might be the only one on this thread not using a Mac or PC with Firefox/IE/Opera who was not joking.

  94. bummer said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:38

    HyperCard! LOL!

  95. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:45

    Hey since I’m cross-linking threads, thermosetting the snark into a solid mass, I’d like to say thae Jeffrey Falcon kick ass.

  96. Doctor Missus Marita said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:46

    on a microvax while riding a unicycle! Wearing hockey goalie gloves!

    fardels bear, hockey goalies only wear a glove on one hand. They wear a blocker on the other. So there.

  97. Whitey™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:57

    Doctor Missus Marita said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:46

    on a microvax while riding a unicycle! Wearing hockey goalie gloves!

    fardels bear, hockey goalies only wear a glove on one hand. They wear a blocker on the other. So there.

    Point of Order, Chairman Missus Marita!

    You COULD get a hockey goalie glove for each hand. After all, you’re not going to be tending goal or something.

  98. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:59

    Um, forgive me, you fucking misogynistic dumbshit idiots, but where exactly was Larry Johnson proven wrong about the Unity Dumbass Pony? Huh? Still waiting to hear about it, you pathetic twits.

    And don’t bother to fill up my e-mail with reasons why I shouldn’t vote for John McCain or Fred Phelps…from where I see it, you penis-mongering shitheads are going to blame me for whatever, so I’m going to vote for whoever. So suck on that.

    Fucking men. Losers.

  99. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:05

    That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me.

  100. Whitey™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:07

    Hanx for stopping by, Melissa.

  101. auggiesback said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:14

    Osama, a black man, as president! You liberals make me laugh! Not gonna happen! America is not ready for this, and besides, blacks are geneticly inferior and full of hate. They are also biased toward the left.

  102. Twernt Nuthin said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:17

    I have a tape that shows Melissa McZuzu penis-mongering in front of an audience of shitheads.

    I’m also fact-checking rumors that she plans to stay home on election day.

    I plan to drop this bomb in October.

  103. Philly Boy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:20

    I have a theory about what Johnson did in the CIA.

    I think that if agents found that someone they were secretly interrogating was very vain about his hair, they brought Johnson into the room and told the detainee that if he didn’t cooperate, they’d send him to Johnson’s barber.

  104. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:23

    When I view this post on my Wang Chung! laser disc it looks excellent.

  105. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:26

    Fuck you, Ifthethunderwhatever. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months, and we’re just not going to take it anymore. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault, no matter how much you want to blame me for it. So screw you, misogynist piece of shit.

  106. GoatBoy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:38

    “A comparison of the comments at the two sites is guaranteed to make you wonder who’s on which side, and why. Try it and see if you don’t come away lightheaded yet crushingly sober. Who are these people?”

    I think you answered your own question.

  107. Je support les troops said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:41

    Is Larry Johnson also Paul Potts – the toothy opera singer who won “Britain’s Got Talent” last year?

    http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/pottsDM_468x590.jpg

  108. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:41

    Who are these people? How dare you criticize like this, you privileged Obots. How DARE you. Idiots.

  109. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:50

    Oh great, just what the lefty blogosphere has been yearning for: A fem fauxtroll.

    Knock yerself out, McZuzu. Please. And soon.

  110. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:53

    I’m no fauxtroll, just as you people are actually fauxgressives, because you pathetic misogynistic assholes make fun of people like Larry Johnson who have worked hard to highlight the evil misogyny of conservatives like the Unity Pony Piece of Shit. So stuff that in your penis pipe and smoke it.

  111. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:58

    Candy said,
    June 25, 2008 at 0:54
    Gavin, could you fix Mr. Johnson’s hair while you’re at it?

    How’s this?

    OK, mediocre at best. But still…

  112. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:02

    Rightwingsnarkle-

    Disgusting. You should be ashamed.

  113. Woodrowfan said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:02

    Forget Hillery, I’m still pissed about Estes Kefauver in 1956!

  114. Penis Pipe of Peace said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:03

    …and she’s a bad fauxtroll at that!

  115. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:04

    Woodrowfan: Don’t even get me started on Shirley Chisholm in ’72.

  116. Woodrowfan said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:04

    I’m a bit hungry. When do the Pho Trolls arrive? A Spring roll and some lemongrass chicken would be nice right now?

  117. Woodrowfan said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:05

    1972? Poor Muskie. Melting snowflakes of our dreams.

  118. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:06

    I’m not a fauxtroll, dammit, I’m a realgressive. So suck on that, stupid misogynistic asshole man loser bite me.

  119. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:11

    Woodrowfan: I know. If only the Dems had gone with the best candidate back then — i.e., Shirley Chisholm, a black woman — all of this current unpleasantness could have been long behind us. But sadly, no — as usual, a stale pale male had to fill the bill.

  120. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:12

    Yeah. That’s what I thought. Don’t come up in here with that weak shit, Obots. Ohhh, we’re just the dumb wimminz, right? Unable of a-thinkin for our little wimminz selves, right? Suck one.

  121. Whitey™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:20

    Yawn.

    Parody troll will bore us to sleep.

  122. Melissa McZuzu said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:23

    I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT

  123. Lurkers, Trolls, Sockpuppets, Pedants and Scolds said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:28

    weR in yr t00bz upholden teh traditionz

  124. Jon H said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:35

    “Do I get any points for using Cyberdog?”

    Nah. Points are only available if you’re using Tim Berners-Lee’s http://WWW.app on a 68030 NeXT Cube booted off the optical disk and with no swap drive.

  125. Jon H said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:35

    Johnson looks as though, if you step on his foot, his scalp will pop open like a trash can.

  126. int argc said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:36

    Iris called… she said that you’re a misogynist for stealing her shtick.

    You know who I miss? Bruce, that’s who.

  127. Jim said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:39

    Woodrowfan said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:04

    When do the Pho Trolls arrive?

    Man, forget that. I want some Udon Noodle Trolls.

    Excuse me, miss? Miss McZuzu? Could you bring us an order of Pho Troll, an Udon Noodle Troll, and … did someone order melted Muskie? Let’s get one, just in case.

    Can you make it snappy, sweetie? Thanks.

  128. The Sadly, No! Troll Players said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:40

    Greetings, everyone! Meet Melissa McZuzu!

    Notice how the message at Sucksville is far too often…fucking exactly like the nonsense you’d see on Hillis44 or the aforementioned Larry Johnson’s House Of Teh Silly? Notice how often quasi-racist dogwhistles are employed (oh, that Obama, thinkin’ everything’s owed to him)? Notice how these dopes will be just happy watching others die in some foreign war just so they’re proven…um…right, or something?

    Well we have. And from where we stand, IrisBot simply isn’t enough. No, no, we’ve got to target exact people head-on…not just someone like Iris, who came and went and became a distant memory. So you’ll notice the two names at work in our new Bot’s name. Not a coincidence.

    We hope you enjoy the new Bot, and hope that you start to realize the duplicity at work in certain sectors of the progressive blogosphere. Thank you, and good night!

  129. Arky H8r of VürdPress said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:42

    I thought you might be interested in seeing the Heinz ad featuring a homosexual family and two homosexuals kissing.

    I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    I wonder what else Mr. Wildon has on his website {{{dream sequence}}}

    I thought you might be interested in seeing this “Internet Video” of six women of various races kissing and touching one another’s private areas.

    I also thought you might be interested in these photos that I captured using my Nikon SLR camera and long-range zoom lens. They depict two well-muscled young men engaged in various sex acts.

    [seven thousand web pages later]

    It is essential that all good Christians carefully observe what happens when an African-American man arrives to fix the plumbing at a residence inhabited by white cheerleaders.

    (Yes, I know this is all OT but its either that or look at Larj’s pathetic attempt to carry off George Clooney’s haircut. D00d, ur doing it wrong!)

  130. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 5:58

    I thought you might be interested in seeing the Heinz ad featuring a homosexual family and two homosexuals kissing.

    Jesus made me look. That makes one awesome screenshot.

  131. Joe Max said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:00

    Looks okay on Lynx.

    I wonder how many people don’t know what that is.

    I do! I do! Pick me teacher, I’m such a geek!

  132. Lesley said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:03

    Sounds like a hundred crows maniacally cawing in a tree five feet from your ear.

    A: Melissa McZuzu.

    (does someone have a beef with Zuzu?)

    Btw, if you need or want a dose of eerie science fictiony goodness, check out The Itch: Its mysterious power may be a clue to a new theory about brains and bodies. Creepy, strange, illuminating and magical.

  133. mikey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:10

    (does someone have a beef with Zuzu?)

    It’s all kind of fuzzy, but I think she was mean to me once.

    Or maybe twice…

    mikey

  134. Robert Green said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:13

    flock is a better browser than anything else i’ve ever tried.

    and i’ve tried blotter.

  135. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:15

    Write more about Flock. I dislike Facebook, so what’s the other sell?

  136. mikey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:16

    The sugar cubes in ’68 were way more special…

    mikey

  137. Joe Max said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:17

    Frankly, I don’t think Mellisa McEwan is quite the proper character for Hillary-bot troll snark – riverdaughter is far more appropriate for a PUMA parody (but then I’m ill-disposed toward a blogger like riverdaughter that deletes my comments for no good reason.)

    As far as I can tell, McEwan is a known Obama supporter, she just points out (exhaustively, ’tis true) all the anti-feminist bullshit slung at Clinton, and as at least one of our hosts here at S,N! has agreed, McEwan has a point.

  138. Henry Holland said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:20

    And don’t bother to fill up my e-mail with reasons why I shouldn’t vote for John McCain or Fred Phelps

    That’s some really weak concern trolling there. If you wanted to be believable, you’d at least provide a fake email address, like suckmydicklibfags@gmail.com or something.

    Fuck off and if and when you come back, please do try harder, we’ve chewed up and spit out trolls far better than you before our first coffee in the morning on numerous occasions.

  139. Jim said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:30

    (does someone have a beef with Zuzu?)

    Mr. Welch?

  140. Tom said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:44

    Well, it doesn’t look right in Zapatos running on a size 10-1/2 shoe phone. I think if I had the EEE width it would be OK, though.

  141. Thers said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:48

    Larry Johnson has an indefensible haircut.

    I’m damn ugly myself, but that is, objectively, one dumbass haircut.

  142. protected static said,

    June 25, 2008 at 6:58

    If we can’t hold, we’ll blow the claymores and pull back to his underpants…

    Aaaahhhh… The horror! “Lift and shift” has acquired new meaning! Popping purple smoke and requesting evac!

  143. protected static said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:04

    Bonus points for doing it on a VAX.

    No HP-3000? What do you have against MPE? (I mean, other than that it sucks raw moose.)

  144. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:10

    As far as I can tell, McEwan is a known Obama supporter, she just points out (exhaustively, ’tis true) all the anti-feminist bullshit slung at Clinton, and as at least one of our hosts here at S,N! has agreed, McEwan has a point.

    Yeah, and “Hey you feminists! Now your vaginas must vote Obama!” must get kind of annoying, especially after the FISA bullshit.

  145. tbati said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:12

    Re the Heinz commercial:

    The point wasn’t that the family was headed (heh) by two men. Rather, the Heinz spreads were so authentic that it made the mom (in England) look and sound (and even dress) like a New York counterman. See? it’s funny because the very idea of two men being married is so outrageous…

  146. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:13

    Rather, the Heinz spreads were so authentic that it made the mom (in England) look and sound (and even dress) like a New York counterman. See?

    Yeah, it’s like some kinda Doris Day screwball thing which is gay Gay GAY!

  147. billy pilgrim said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:14

    hell, I just browsed over on an HP-15C.

    try commenting in RPN. I dare ya….

  148. billy pilgrim said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:15

    oh, and mikey’s comment on the underpants recon made me throw up in my mouth.

    a LOT.

  149. mere mortal said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:25

    “please just stop”

    You could take your own advice.

    Lest a discussion of Obama and the domestic spying bill ensue.

    Lest we mention that Obama refers to the past 15 years as the “Clinton Bush years,” conflating the good with the bad to aggrandize himself and slander the best president in my lifetime.

  150. The Abba Dingo said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:32

    It looks fine to me. Everything looks fine to me. I don’t think you’re going to like it though.

  151. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:36

    Do I have to dig out my PDP-11 and settle this once and for all?

    (Beware! I also have an Altair…)

  152. lobbey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:52

    realgressive

    whats that?

  153. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:55

    Is no thread safe from Cordwainer Smith references?

  154. comsympinko said,

    June 25, 2008 at 7:57

    My supernaturally modified Apple II E brings you all to shame.

    I did it up like that Stephen King short story “Word Processor Of The Gods.”

    It now physically deletes and adds persons and gold coins.

    Wherever I choose.

    So be nice.

  155. Douglas Watts said,

    June 25, 2008 at 8:06

    I can do midi on my LCII.

    all ur dot matrix carnival posters belong to us.

  156. Malfunctioning Melissa McZuzu Trollbot 0.00031 said,

    June 25, 2008 at 8:06

    That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!! That’s what I thought, stupid ass losers. Bite me. You misogynist assholes have been piling on feminists like Larry Johnson for the past few months. When I cast my vote for Fred Phelps, it’ll be your fault. Disgusting. You should be ashamed. I’M NOT A PARODY YOU’RE A MISOGYNIST FOR SUGGESTING IT!!!

  157. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 8:19

    realgressive
    whats that?

    Maddened by realgar poisoning.

  158. jim said,

    June 25, 2008 at 8:23

    Yeah, uh, already been to NQ, so, um, maybe I’ll just pass, seeing as I just ate. Anyone who takes that fake ID crap seriously needs to stop bogarting the bong. Yes, I’m looking at you, Freeper Klan!
    The hairdo is the mirror of the soul – yeccccchhh.
    I’m using 4 car batteries, 8 unwound coat-hangers, a hamster & a Ouiji board – looks okay to me.

  159. gainsayer said,

    June 25, 2008 at 8:31

    I’m reading this post on Microsoft Bob using 3-D glasses. Looks okay, other than the floating pink dots.

  160. Soullite said,

    June 25, 2008 at 11:14

    McEwan does have the habit of conflating saying something bad about Hillary Clinton with misogyny. Out of her 100+ ‘examples of sexism’, maybe 50 are actual examples of sexism, the other 50 are ‘OMG! This person doesn’t want to vote for Hillary’, or ‘How dare someone say something mean spirited about a woman! It must be BECAUSE they are a women.’.

    She’s not BTD or Lambert, but she really does swing her hammer far and wide hoping to smite any negative criticism about any female on the theory that it can only be due to sexism that any women would ever be criticized. It’s the ‘Women can’t be bad people’ theory of sexism.

  161. WereBear said,

    June 25, 2008 at 12:17

    Smut Clyde said,

    Is no thread safe from Cordwainer Smith references?

    The wire of Eustace Cranch!

    There you go.

  162. LittlePig said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:17

    My Altair 8800 brings up the page just fine. Don’t know what you folks with your newfangled doodads are carping about.

  163. D.N. Nation said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:39

    I don’t get Larry Johnson. Don’t get his methods, don’t get his reasoning, don’t get what he wants.

    What, exactly, is so horrible about one Barack H. Obama that this guy has to spend the bulk of his time five-minutes-hating? What is it? How exactly is he demonstratively far different than Hillary Clinton that ol’ Lar has to rage and rage? What’s the fucking issue? What is it?

    I would troll around No Quarter to find out, but the signals there are so mixed and mismanaged that I don’t know what the hell the point is. Obama in one hand is a misogynistic centrist sell-out asshole; Obama in the other hand is a radical anti-white Marxist Muslim. How are we to follow that, exactly?

    What about Hillary Clinton would make someone hang on this long…and act this crazy? She’s got her fine points, she’s got her less fine points. Solid person who, let’s face it, ran a crummy campaign. I can understand putting stock in the closest woman to the White House ever…but Larry Johnson isn’t a feminist by any means. What is it? Can someone even attempt to explain this?

  164. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:40

    The pages are loading a bit slow on my Timex/Sinclair 1000, but overall life is good.

    Speaking of which – many years ago (25!) I worked for the old Burroughs Corp., and went out to Paoli for some product training.

    That was also the site where they manufactured their highest-end mainframes, which at that time were designated the B7900 series.

    At one point in the factory tour, we were confronted with some semi-assembled B7900′s that were having some boards tested or something. What was the name of the computer running the diagnostics?

    The Timex/Sinclair 1000. It had been split open to alter something inside, and was held shut by a rubber band.

    True story. I saw it with my own eyes, and it was confirmed by our tour guide. I’ve been waiting since 1983 to share this story.

    No wonder Burroughs went out of business.

  165. Blue Buddha said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:45

    My abacus, divination rod, and slab of clay with reed stylus to write out cuneiform brings up the page clear as a bell. I don’t understand why you folks insist on using these magical haintboxes filled with glowing æther.

  166. Blue Buddha said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:47

    D.N. Nation said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:39

    What about Hillary Clinton would make someone hang on this long…and act this crazy? She’s got her fine points, she’s got her less fine points. Solid person who, let’s face it, ran a crummy campaign. I can understand putting stock in the closest woman to the White House ever…but Larry Johnson isn’t a feminist by any means. What is it? Can someone even attempt to explain this?

    He wants to get in her pants. Simple as that.

  167. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:48

    æther.

    Bonus points for Unicode-fu.

  168. Blue Buddha said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:52

    Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:48

    æther.

    Bonus points for Unicode-fu.

    You don’t realize how difficult it was to write that in Assyrian cuneiform and transmit it with the divination rod.

  169. D.N. Nation said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:54

    He wants to get in her pants. Simple as that.

    Explain the Dumb-and-Dumber haircut, then.

  170. RCoover said,

    June 25, 2008 at 15:57

    Do you guys think this comment from Larry Johnson’s site is serious or satire?

    “Obama’s time of birth might have been altered, out of concern over astrological implications.

    There are peculiar uncertainties of great astrological import regarding the hour of birth of both Obama and McCain. A chart plotted using the hour of birth previously stated for Obama suggested a man having unusually high leadership skills, who at a critical moment would face a Machiavellian enemy.

    The chart plotted for the date of the 2008 election is unusually troubled. All astrologers are in agreement on this point.”

  171. D.N. Nation said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:02

    Do you guys think this comment from Larry Johnson’s site is serious or satire?

    The Lizardoids over at Chuckles’ Playhouse are always saying shit like that, too.

  172. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:04

    True story. I saw it with my own eyes, and it was confirmed by our tour guide. I’ve been waiting since 1983 to share this story.

    Tales from the Wild West days of the Information Age always remind me of the magic switch. I imagine that the big Sadly, No! Hamster Farm has a switch on it too and it’s currently set at More Trolls.

  173. Jon H said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:05

    That picture of Larry is just begging to be photoshopped so that it looks like he’s on Family Feud.

  174. Candy said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:10

    MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 3:26

    Candy: When I was a magazine editor at a way cool place here that’s now long gone, we did a serial graphic sex novel. Each editor would do a chapter then pass it on to the next. Some of us chose to incorporate the personalities and gossipy experiences of coworkers into it. It was the best. Too bad we never had it published. Of course, we’d all have been killed by now.

    Every year the Iowa state legislature’s aids, both parties, write a serial whodunnit. I’ve heard the stories are hilarious. The mother of invention may be necessity (or Frank Zappa), but the mother of ditzy works of fiction is too much time on the hands of people with computer access. :-)

    rightwingsnarkle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 4:58

    He looks like a member of the British Royal Family with that ‘do! Royal Order of the Queen’s Johnson, perhaps.

  175. Blue Buddha said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:11

    Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:04

    Tales from the Wild West days of the Information Age always remind me of the magic switch. I imagine that the big Sadly, No! Hamster Farm has a switch on it too and it’s currently set at More Trolls.

    Some lead programmer at my previous job told me about the “magic switch” story several years ago. Funny story.

  176. Larry Johnson said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:12

    That picture of Larry is just begging to be photoshopped so that it looks like he’s on Family Feud.

    I’m gonna go with “Marxist,” Richard!

  177. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:13

    Also, while we’re digging through the Jargon file, The Story of Lost C’Mel seems somehow approrpiate here. And I’m posting using a Babbage Engine made of carefully calibrated baked goods that I like to call Babbage Rolls.

  178. Richard Dawson said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:13

    Okay, the question is…how many surveyed said the first thing they think of Barack Obama being is Marxist? Survey SAYS!

  179. Buzzer said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:14

    BZZZZZZZZT

  180. Richard Dawson said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:14

    Oh, so sorry, Larry. Hey, here’s a kiss anyway.

  181. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:14

    approrpiate indeed. One of my Babbage Rolls must have gone stale.

  182. sagra said,

    June 25, 2008 at 16:54

    Bonus points for doing it on a VAX.

    It’s more fun to do it on a washing machine. The VAX just gets hot.

  183. M said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:24

    It looks fine with in my cron’d wget sessions.

    (best I could come up with)

  184. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:26

    Telnet ftw

  185. sagra said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:27

    It’s the ‘Women can’t be bad people’ theory of sexism.

    Not that Hillary’s a bad person. Just not the best person for the job.

  186. SamFromUtah said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:43

    Bonus points for doing it on a VAX. … Wild West days of the Information Age … The Story of Lost C’Mel …

    What fun, though all that Golden Age stuff which sniffs at the very idea of those newfangled silicon transistors is always vaguely embarrassing to read, especially that militant-geek reclaiming of the word “hacker”. And I say this as a guy who’s been programming since 1978.

    I think programmers should know the history of their field, but dressing it up with that paper-RPG heroic style makes me cringe.

  187. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:43

    It’s more fun to do it on a washing machine. The VAX just gets hot.

    No, you want to do it on a VAX. Liquor is quicker.

  188. SamFromUtah said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:50

    No, you want to do it on a VAX. Liquor is quicker.

    OK, that’s pretty goddam cool. I used an 11/780 in college, though even by then we’d hear the field techs saying “Oh wow, I remember those!” when they’d see it.

  189. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 17:56

    Out of her 100+ ‘examples of sexism’, maybe 50 are

    Let us now synchronize all our sexism meters to Greenwich Mean Things so that this ambiguity between what I think is sexist and what everyone else thinks is sexist is settled once and for all.

  190. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:02

    OK, that’s pretty goddam cool. I used an 11/780 in college

    Well, I guess I’ll date myself now too. I’m way too young to have had an opportunity to play with VAXen, I grew up during the days of CBM. In high school I was fiddling with fat 40′s and was delighted about this new fangled thing called the disc drive. But even in those days technology was changing hyper rapidly, and the idea of backwards compatiability and standards and such was still very new. So I got exposure to stuff from card readers to trackballs.

  191. D.N. Nation said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:02

    Yeah, and “Hey you feminists! Now your vaginas must vote Obama!” must get kind of annoying, especially after the FISA bullshit.

    Number of people who come to Shakesville and say something like this: Eh, count ‘em on your fingers.

    Number of times Shakesville regulars use this ridiculous strawman to put down any argument anyone makes for why it makes logical sense to still vote for Obama, even given whatever flaws he has: Eh, count ‘em on…Michigan Stadium’s seats. Then double it.

  192. D.N. Nation said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:09

    And by the way…ahh, Ralph.

  193. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:09

    Number of people who come to Shakesville and say something like this: Eh, count ‘em on your fingers.

    Number of times Shakesville regulars use this ridiculous strawman to put down any argument anyone makes for why it makes logical sense to still vote for Obama, even given whatever flaws he has: Eh, count ‘em on…Michigan Stadium’s seats. Then double it.

    Hyperbole doesn’t suit arguments in which you claim other people are flying off the handle.

    I’m not arguing that everything they say is right, just that it’s understandable.

  194. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:10

    Let us now synchronize all our sexism meters to Greenwich Mean Things so that this ambiguity between what I think is sexist and what everyone else thinks is sexist is settled once and for all.

    I think I had something to say about Shakes and objectivity but (wev).

    Even if you agree with the object of someone’s monomaniacal obsession, those someone’s are still monomaniacally obsessed.

  195. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:12

    Shame I didn’t get to reach back for that comment on the BigLizard thread.

  196. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:27

    I think I had something to say about Shakes and objectivity but (wev).

    What I find funny is often cruel and bleak so I appreciate the freedom here. However it is also funny to rail against the inability to post fat jokes at a fat person’s site.

  197. Grand Moff Texan said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:30

    It’s the ‘Women can’t be bad people’ theory of sexism.

    You just took me back to when my computer had a 3 1/2 and a 5 1/4 disk-drive.
    .

  198. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:42

    Well before this gets to the point of introspective and maudlin…

    PENIS

  199. Jake H. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:45

    You know, the Brooks mailbox thing happened before all the anti-Obama crazy, at a time when I still thought Larry was the man. But even then, I read his post on it and thought it was such a weird thing to do. It just seemed a little off to me–semi-harassing Brooks at his home. It wasn’t the worst conduct ever, certainly, but it just left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I got the sense that the reason he did it was because he was outraged that anyone who disagreed with him would have the audacity to move into his neighborhood. I used to like Larry for his tough-guy style, but that was the first hint (to me at least) that it was all grounded in irrational narcissism.

  200. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:48

    Speaking of PENIS, I think lambert might be tipping his hand. King Lear?!?! Fucking King Lear is what you’ve picked to explain your feelings? Well, I feel better already – you obviously aren’t trying to sabotage Obama – nope – no hidden message there at all.

  201. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:54

    King Lear?!?!

    That one has a happy ending right?

  202. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 18:59

    Yeah lets all date ourselves (not least since no one else would want to). In college I worked on Big Iron – system 370. Punch cards. I remember well the first “computer lab” with two – count em two – 3270 terminals.

    My best female friend my sophomore year was the daughter of John W. Mauchly. He was a loon. Great guy. Yes, I’m reading and commenting from ENIAC.

    ob S,N!: ….Aah, why are talking about Larry’s Johnson anyway?

  203. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:00

    That one has a happy ending right?

    Happy all the way through. And pardons for everyone!

  204. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:00

    Also, ℙ◎◎ℙ

  205. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:08

    OT but fun:

    The petition to rename the SF sewage plant for George W. Bush now has enough signatures to qulaify for the ballot. Because 58% voted to impeach in the 2006 election, there’s a good chance it will pass.

  206. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:12

    The petition to rename the SF sewage plant for George W. Bush now has enough signatures to qulaify for the ballot. Because 58% voted to impeach in the 2006 election, there’s a good chance it will pass.

    Awesome, only our good friend W is really the opposite of a sewage treatment plant.

  207. Lawnguylander said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:14

    .Notice how the message at Sucksville is far too often…fucking exactly like the nonsense you’d see on Hillis44 or the aforementioned Larry Johnson’s House Of Teh Silly? Notice how often quasi-racist dogwhistles are employed (oh, that Obama, thinkin’ everything’s owed to him)? Notice how these dopes will be just happy watching others die in some foreign war just so they’re proven…um…right, or something?

    I’ve been visiting there for the last several months because it’s one of the saner pro Clinton blogs and it is a frustrating read at times but it’s not at all like the two sites you mentioned. That doesn’t mean that Melissa and Zuzu aren’t a couple of hacks but your comparison to sites like NoQuarter are not valid. Competing hard in the “oppression olympics” and caring a lot more about sexism in the primary than racism is one thing but it’s not even close to Larry Johnson style race baiting. I think one of the lessons that has come out of the primary season is that identity and partisan politics don’t mix well and you’re better off sticking to one or the other if you’re a blogger. But show me where Melissa or Zuzu began hawking mugs and shirts with “typical white person” printed on them or where they promoted the Larry Sinclair or “whitey” rumors.

    By all means continue to troll that lame ass echo chamber of a comments section they’ve got over there but when you do remember that you represent only yourself. When you refer to this blog and its regulars over there try not to use the word “we” lest anyone get the wrong idea. Thanks a bunch.

  208. stringonastick said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:16

    The best part is the guys who manage the sewage treatment plant are offended at the idea because the plant is such an excellent and efficient performer. They don’t want their excellent facility named after a total shithead since what they do is take shit and make it OK, while all Chimpy ever did was the opposite.

  209. ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:16

    The less I hear about Larry’s Johnson, the better.

    And as long as the Sadlies are Slacking,

    What Atrios said.

    And furthermore, Fred Hiatt’s editorial page wants suggestions from readers with regards to making the WaPo better.

    You know what to do:

    FIRE FRED HIATT
    ~

  210. Lord Jestocost said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:17

    Would the hamsters kindly get a new thread started so I can put a Cordwainer Smith reference into it?

  211. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:20

    [Updated the post just now]

  212. stringonastick said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:22

    Gavin, that is some sick shit you dug up there. Who the hell ARE these people?!?!?!

  213. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:25

    After that, and only after that, comes unity. On our terms.

    Um. That is…., er….ummm. I mean…uhhh…..

    Danger Will Robinson! Does not compute. Does not compute.

  214. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:25

    Where’s the link to the quoted “So out we went” bit?

  215. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:26

    Oh, it’s at the Cannonfire thingie.

  216. ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:30

    Cannonfire thinghie?

  217. owlbear1 said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:31

    Darkmatter, folks.

    Just sayin’…

  218. Lawnguylander said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:32

    Cannonfire thinghie?

    At the top of the linked to Lamebert post.

  219. MaryC said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:36

    I can understand being bitter that your candidate lost but some of the comments at Puma Pac defy comprehension:

    Some of the sexist statements from Obama surrogates were so offensive to me, they might as well have used the c*** word.

    That’s why I’m for McCain 2008!

    Because McCain really does use the cunt word? I’m lost here …

  220. ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:37

    I got it. Damn, clicking through and clicking through is hard work!

    But I see the point: Lambert thought it worth linking to.

    I vaguely recall that the Clinton folks quit DKos, rather than being purged. But I don’t visit often enough to care.

  221. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:37

    “it is also funny to rail against the inability to post fat jokes at a fat person’s site.”

    Hey, I’m not fat. I just have big cartilage.

    What do you mean, every comment isn’t about me?

  222. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:38

    Sorry it was unclear; I just added another link.

  223. dlauthor said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:40

    Huh. I wrote a trilogy of fantasy novels a few years back that concerned a messianic-but-false prophet-figure who came to the throne of an empire promising to change the status quo, and ended up bringing doom on it instead. The slavishly adoring people gave the eponym “Lightbringer.”

    I wonder if that’s where these dingdongs got that meme. Because if on the (very) off chance it is — well, shit, I’m sorry. It was really about Shrubya, anyway.

  224. Lawnguylander said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:41

    Rumproast is doing a great job of exposing these ratfucking PUMA people for what they really are. This post on the founder of the PUMA PAC for example.

  225. liberalrob said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:45

    Put sunglasses on him and Larry’s the Mole Man or Doctor Octopus.

  226. tigrismus said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:47

    We will not forgive those who bigot-baited us … pieces of subhuman sewage

    Um, yipe?

  227. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:53

    pieces of subhuman sewage

    Eliminationist rhetoric FTW! Yeah, only lifelong Democrats and progressives talk that way about people on their side, and it’s only too bad that the sewage on the left is forcing them to vote for McCain. Sure. Easy to believe.

  228. Tom65 said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:57

    They are PUMA – hear them roar!

    That makes me laugh every time I type that.

  229. javafascist said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:58

    there’s a movement building

    Good to know. I thought that smell was from spreading manure at the farm down the road. Let’s hope they wipe when the movement has passed.

  230. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 19:58

    First, in his defence, the Traister PUMA article was a condescending, insulting piece of garbage.

    Okay. Now onto the hidden link.
    Whoo weee. That’s a big pile o’ crazy.
    His big argument about why he can’t support Obama? Died in 1976. Not shitting you:

    It’s about Obama. He’s just not the right guy. He’s just not the acceptable guy. The case against him resists easy summary, but one image may suffice: He moved Democratic Party HQ to Chicago.

    Got that. Voting for Barack Obama, the smoke-filled room insider, is to support despotic dynasties, unlike voting for a Clinton, or for son of an Admiral squared JiSM3.

    Man, it only gets better from there. His next act is to cry about being persecuted by the KosGB. Then he goes on about how the PUMA party was created because Obots are thin skinned and yell about prejudice at the slightest provocation. And finally he gets to his point – the darkened video brouhaha. Whooo – a darkened video, or was it really? That’s his reason to vote “more like Scalia and Alito” JiSM3. Oh wait, did I say finally? Whoops, we’re only halfway through!

    Hey Joseph Cannon, wanna why you’re accused of being racist everytime you try to explain why you can’t support Obama? Well, it’s because you’re a racist.

  231. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:00

    We have only one way to cleanse the party

    Yep, we thought you’d never leave.

    Seriously, someone please explain why I should give 1/4 of a fuck that a bunch of radical thugs are throwing a tantrum just because they tend to vote (D).

    Wait, before that you’ll need to explain the difference between the right-wing assholes and the left-wing assholes, ‘cos I don’t see it.

    Thanks

  232. Caitlin Sith said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:02

    All those angry groups, and not — NOT ONE– came up with Sadly, Nobama?
    I’m disappointed

  233. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:02

    We have only one way to cleanse the party

    Ethnically?

  234. Tom65 said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:06

    The really scary part about the Bitters over at Agent Flowbee’s House of Innuendo is that they truly don’t see the inconsistency of supporting Clinton and voting for McCain. This really should be a case study in graduate-level psych courses.

  235. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:07

    Wow! That’s some demented shit over at cannonfodder.

    But whoever designed their site really has it together.

  236. pedestrian said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:08

    It is commonly assumed that “assholes” are a subset of “Republicans”. In fact, the opposite is true.

  237. LA Confidential Pantload said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:09

    Cleansing the party? WTF? It’s gonna be the Night of the Long Knives in Denver? Huffing that combination of paint thinner and Cheetoh dust looks more and more like a poor life decision.

  238. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:10

    This cracked four-pounder has the nerve to say

    The Kossacks became the new Freepers,

    Umm, guess what Joe? You’re PUMA friends like TexasDarling are the ones showing up on the Freepi mothership.

    Hey Joe, I just looked at your site for the first time ever today. It’s nice to know that you don’t Godwin until the post after Why We Fight. Otherwise I wouldn’t be able to put your comments about us being the haters in perspective.

  239. Larry Johnson said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:12

    “they truly don’t see the inconsistency of supporting Clinton and voting for McCain.”

    What do you mean? The best way to support the troops is to agitate for endless war. You don’t want them to be bored, do you? And I support my local firefighters by dousing empty houses with gasoline and setting them on fire. In the same vein, I support the children’s hospital by beating my kids.

  240. Djur said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:12

    Lightbringer

    So they’ve finally come around to calling him Satan. Good to know.

  241. Devil's Advocate said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:16

    Lucifer / Beelzebub 2008: Still better than Bush/Cheney.

  242. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:20

    Voting for Barack Obama, the smoke-filled room insider, is to support despotic dynasties, unlike voting for a Clinton, or for son of an Admiral squared JiSM3.

    In the 2000 election I was a poll worker. Stood outside, asking people to vote for Gore. Now, this was in rural PA so that might help to explain it but, a woman says “I’m voting for Bush because I don’t like the idea of political dynasties.” My “WTF” query was met with “His father was a Senator you know.”

    The stoopid is eternal.

  243. Satan's Dirty Underwear said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:21

    I, for one, am looking forward to being your new overlord.

  244. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:22

    Since Cheney’s not running, the Cthulu for President slogan doesn’t need to be updated: “Why Settle for the Lesser Evil?”

  245. noen said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:22

    Cannonfire has never been what I would call, sane. He’s long been a conspiracy theorist and even in that community was not able to play nice with others. He incurred so much wrath from them he was almost driven off the web a little over a year ago, perhaps was for a while. But if you dig into his past a bit you’ll find some “not quite Alex Jones” theories. Good riddance to him, I don’t think we ever had his vote anyway.

  246. Djur said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:22

    Simba:

    $ nc -l -p 5000
    (visits http://localhost:5000/)
    GET / HTTP/1.1
    Host: localhost:5000
    User-Agent: ELinks/0.11.1-1ubuntu2-debian (textmode; Linux 2.6.17-10-generic x86_64; 239×86-3)
    Accept: */*
    Accept-Encoding: gzip
    Accept-Language: en
    Connection: Keep-Alive

  247. Travis Bickle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:25

    Someday a real rain will come and cleanse all this scum off our party.

  248. zeppo said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:26

    Cool!! I have never been able to read S,N! with my IE on my home computer. I am using a terribly outdated and now unsupported version of NETSCAPE!! Whahoo! I knew there was a reason I kept that on my computer!

    And people wonder why I consider myself a neo-Luddite. Things stop working that used to work fine, and yet it is always somehow MY FAULT.

  249. Caitlin Sith said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:29

    Let’s see, Captain Johnson and the McCainacrat Brigade are calling him Lucifer, Karl Rove, unable to foist the effete windsurfer image upon him, basically describes him as Frank Sinatra– about the only thing that could make me like him more is if I found out he arranged five songs of “In Rainbows.”

  250. pedestrian said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:34

    Somehow this all seems very familiar.

  251. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:36

    Wait, I think I figured it out.

    Republican Assholes: Full of shit.

    Democratic Assholes: Shit every where.

    Neo-con Assholes: Shat the bed.

  252. Ming said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:36

    Sad. So sad really…..Yaaawn.

    The slide into irrelevance is never very pretty.

  253. comsympinko said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:38

    “We have only one way to cleanse the party of Moulitsas, Stassinopoulos, Aravosis, Marshall, Obama, Axelrod, Plouffe, Dean, Brazile and all those other pieces of subhuman sewage. We must make sure that Obama fails — either in August (very unlikely) or in November (more likely) or, if need be, in his presidency.

    After that, and only after that, comes unity. On our terms.”

    Fuck your cleansing, fuck your terms, fuck your unity and fuck you.

    Bunch of savages in that town.

  254. Ab_Normal said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:41

    dlauthor, i think “Lightbringer” is a Lucifer reference. So, you’re cool.

  255. Ming said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:42

    Fuck your cleansing, fuck your terms, fuck your unity and fuck you.

    I couldn’t agree more.

  256. dlauthor said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:43

    Oh, OK, good. That bastard who wrote the Bible is stealing my work again.

  257. Legalize said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:45

    These folks are irrelevant. They are not Dems/Libs/Progressives – whatever. They are merely Freep-tards, LGF-tards, Riel-tards, etc. trying to cause trouble. There is nothing to reconcile with them, as their interest is the same as it ever was: smearing Obama so that he doesn’t win in November. The PARTY is largely unified behind Obama at this point, and it will only become more so as time goes by.

    They deserve only mockery, like any other wingnut knuckle-dragger.

  258. tb said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:50

    Yeah, there’s a reason they don’t sound like any Democrat you have ever met in your entire life.

  259. pedestrian said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:53

    When do we get to see a Christopher Guest film on this?

    I want to see a character based on that New Yorker that got kicked out of the Rules and Bylaws Committee, but there is just endless possibility.

  260. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:53

    Holy ratfucking bullshit Batman. I finally got to the Lawguylander’s rumproast link. There’s a youtube linked there of the Fox interview she gave. In the three minute bit she holds the following positions:

    - Obama is ill-prepared to go against the Republicans in November
    - Many people will vote JiSM3 or stay home or write in another candidate. So yes people are prepared to do that.
    - A very divided party. Talk about unity at this point is fairly silly.
    - Democrats need to be united.
    - The Democratic Party only wins when it represents the full coalition of Democrats and so writing off entire states like Florida and Michigan…Aughhh the stoopid it burns!

  261. Tim (The Other One) said,

    June 25, 2008 at 20:59

    Are you sure Dafydd didn’t write that Lambert comment ?

  262. noen said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:02

    This is the kind of shit I mean. Take a look at Connonfire’s most recent post on Obama’s family.

    “Sorry for the light posting. I became immersed in research into Chalice Well in Glastonbury.”

    “When the senior Barack Obama returned to Kenya, he allied himself with socialist leader Jaramogi Oginga Odinga against the pro-Western — and, many would say, CIA-backed”

    “If you think American intelligence took no interest in Barack Obama Sr., then you may also believe that Warren Report’s assertion that the CIA took no interest in Lee Harvey Oswald when he came back from the USSR.”

    This is looney tunes conspiracy theory bullshit.

    “I am not — not — not saying that Barack Obama Jr. is a commie, or a hidden CIA asset, or anything of that sort. Neither am I saying that Stanley Ann Durham did anything disreputable.”

    Oh no, of course not. The idea never occurred to me. I do not believe for one second that Cannonfire has ever been a Democrat.

  263. Desert Hussein Rat said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:06

    First of all, and let’s get this right.

    Larry Johnson is, and has been as much of a liberal hero as I am a conservative hero.

    His only street cred, at all, is he was sane enough to fight back against the ratfucking of Valerie Plame-Wilson. Credit where credit was due, he carried a lot of authority on that score, but he’s hardly been on board with what most liberals consider to be internal.

    I missed the part where he advocated heavily for single-payer health insurance, for gay rights, or whatever. Basically, he’s a moderate Republican, who like so many moderates, found out there’s no place left in the Republican Party for someone whose main foreign policy goal isn’t “KILL EVERYBODY!”

    At this point, his attacks have been just about as vile and racist (e.g. “whitey”) as Little Green Fuckwads.

    The sooner people realize that No Clue is a right-wing blog, the happier everybody will be.

  264. Simba B said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:06

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; c) AppleWebKit/525.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/525.1+) midori

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008062112 Iceweasel/3.0 (Debian-3.0~rc2-2)

    Yawn. 64-bit is so vanilla these days, Djur. ;-P

    The WebKit browser on the Nokia N800‘s bright 800×480 screen is the definition of awesome, to me.

  265. Desert Hussein Rat said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:12

    And point #2. I never bought into the whole Larry Johnson is teh librul thing, not even before Hillary announced her run, but what the hell happened to Susan Hu?

    She was a front pager on the Great Orange Satan who wrote some brilliant stuff, seemed pretty progressive on stuff, was all over the Plame story from the beginning, and apparently has completely checked out of the hotel reality since HIllary’s candidacy began to resemble the last voyage of the Titanic.

    I get Larry. He was never a liberal, and thought Hillary the best out of a bad lot. Her, I don’t get at all.

  266. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:14

    Speaking of PUMAs, over at Clintons4McCain, they have as one of their front page stories “Why vote for McCain?”. They don’t have a good answer, but they do include this line

    We’re also getting emails asserting that the only reason anyone WOULD vote for McCain is because they’re racist.

    And just to prove the point, the next post down is titled “Malik Obama confirms half-brother BHO raised Muslim”. And guess what photo they have attached to that post. Go, take a wild stab in the dark.

  267. Gabby Johnson said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:18

    “I can understand putting stock in the closest woman to the White House ever…but Larry Johnson isn’t a feminist by any means. What is it? Can someone even attempt to explain this?”

    Because the nominee is near!

  268. Tim (The Other One) said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:31

    “Because the nominee is near!”

    authentic “frontier” gibberish !

    win

  269. Scott said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:44

    After that, and only after that, comes unity. On our terms.

    I picture Cannonfire saying that in front of a mirror. Probably wearing a Darth Vader mask and nothing else…

  270. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:44

    what the hell happened to Susan Hu?

    Yeah, good question. I followed her at BooMan. I liked Susan (to the extent that it’s possible to ‘like’ an online acquaintance). She wrote good stuff. She reached out.

    Maybe we all have our breaking points, and something pushed Susan over hers – and it could very well have had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton.

  271. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:50

    OT. How long until we see SpAckerRoll down the right hand side of Sadly, No!?

    Doubly OT. Forget interrobangs, in my quest for bangstion marks, how many questions can I end with the name of this blog, Sadly, No!?

  272. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 21:53

    Perhaps many‽

  273. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:02

    Whoah, that’s some unicode-fu
    ?p?ss??d?? ?? ?

  274. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:02

    Shoot. WordPress ate my hack.

  275. Jake H. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:10

    That cannonfire post is just unreal–it reads like something from Timothy McVeigh’s reading list. Just unbelievable. For someone to be that angry and batshit, you’d think something actually, y’know, happened. A candidate lost in a primary election. Surely you can go on with your life.

  276. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:12

    Now I gotta see what works. ¡ ¿ ¶ ± ¹ · ½ ø ‰ § ° ÷ ← √ ∑ ∞

  277. Paul G said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:25

    While I loathe posting anywhere under my real name, this merits it.
    Why, Gavin, Why do you only post my photoshoppe’s that only took five minutes and never the ones I slaved over for, like, an hour and a half (ie jonah goldberg in the red dawn poster). Sometimes i just want to cry.
    Oh and larry johnson is a racist piece of shit and his site is full of fellow racists. the whole feminist thing is just a cover.

    BTW I typed this using my Power Glove Keyboard and navigated with my Power Glove Mouse.

  278. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:28

    Paul G said,
    June 25, 2008 at 22:25 (kill)
    While I loathe posting anywhere under my real name, this merits it.

    Paul G. That’s a fucking name, G.

  279. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:30

    Um, well, circa May 24th, I was away getting married. I swear I only saw the Jonah picture a minute ago.

  280. Paul G said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:31

    Oh and susan Hu has been crazed for months, i have personal email exchanges that prove it.

  281. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:32

    I hereby claim copyright on the phrase “ethical cleansing”.

  282. Gavin M. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:32

  283. comsympinko said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:33

    Due to lightning strikes we just missed Germany going ahead and the Turks tying it up with minutes left.

    Lousy God.

  284. comsympinko said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:34

    Germans back on top 3-2 89th minute!!!

  285. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:34

    I hereby claim copyright on the phrase “ethical cleansing”.

    Prior art.

  286. Paul G said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:35

    you people and your LIVES! Geez, its like photoshopping from your moms basement just isn’t appreciated anymore.

  287. Paul G said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:39

    see the detail? the 101st badge took me at least 20 minutes and i had to watch you sucjk at photoshop #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_X5uR7VC4M) like three times to get the masking right. I bet you didn’t even notice!

  288. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:45

    Righteous Bubba said,
    Prior art.

    None of those websites actually existed until RB went googling and collapsed their wave-functions.

  289. comsympinko said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:46

    Germany win.

    Now we need the Russians to beat Spain to set up the Germany-Russia final.

    No history there…

  290. MadRaven said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:50

    divining this page through the entrails of a slaughtered bull, looks OK here

  291. Malfunctioning Charles Johnson Robot said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:52

    Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging Digusting Vile Moonbat Seething Muslims MSM Blood Libel Raging

  292. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 22:55

    RB went googling and collapsed their wave-functions.

    If I had that kind of power people all over the world would be considering careers in sphincternautics.

  293. Mike P. said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:02

    I just want to say that photoshop of Johnson on the right looks suspiciously like Taylor Marsh. Has anyone ever seen them together – at the same time!!!???11

  294. Smut Clyde said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:08

    Further research reveals that Firefox 3 is still too code-bloated to run on an Olivetti 101 programmable calculator desktop computer.

  295. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:09

    Anyone using their Wang for this site?

  296. mikey said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:22

    subhuman sewage

    As opposed to your more acceptable Human sewage?

    Or would that merely be referring to the feces of great apes?

    Or even pretty good apes….

    mikey

  297. Original-Odhner Model 239 Arithmometer said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:24

    Don’t forget me!

  298. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:33

    Anyone using their Wang for this site?

    Oh, I remember those. That was the computer with the dick drive, right?

    *bad-doom-da*

  299. tigrismus said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:34

    Anyone using their Wang for this site?

    NO CYBERING.

  300. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:35

    NO CYBERING.

    So… what are you swearing?

  301. Sm*t Cl*de said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:38

    For security reasons, I am not able to tell you what this page looks like on an Enigma machine.

  302. .-. .. --. .... - . --- ..- ... -... ..- -... -... .- said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:44

    .-.. — — -.- … ..-. .. -. . – — — . .-.-.-

  303. Wordpress said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:46

    I’m in your ‘-..- -.-’, turning ‘- -’ into –.

  304. .-. .. --. .... - . --- ..- ... -... ..- -... -... .- said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:47

    Fuckin’ WordPress. I ain’t entering all those escape characters.

  305. .-. .. --. .... - . --- ..- ... -... ..- -... -... .- said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:50

    RSS still respects the great Samuel Morse.

  306. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:57

    Okay, now you’re all just being silly.

    I used to work on a Mag-card “memory typewriter.”

  307. Satan's Dirty Underwear said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:58

    Djur – you do webby stuff, yes? And you’re local. If you’re interested in a bit of moonlighting (a “simple” WEB GUI for an embedded linux device) shoot me an email: vmweenie UNDERSCORE 98 AT yahoo DOT youknowwhat

  308. MzNicky said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:58

    Plus I think I now know how to do the strike-out thing. Let’s see:

    Larry Johnson is a douchebag fine American patriot.

    Ha! I rule.

  309. PeeJ said,

    June 25, 2008 at 23:59

    Erm, that was, of course, me. Forgot to change monikers….

  310. sagra said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:04

    And I say this as a guy who’s been programming since 1978.

    Ain’t life amazing. I took my first programming class in 1978.

  311. ice weasel said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:06

    This is all bullshit. To be perfectly honest with you, I don’t even think it’s worth discussion aside from the casual debunking of the idea there are a lot of these asshats around.

    There aren’t.

  312. Kathleen said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:13

    Paul G that is a thing of beauty. you rule.

    I happen to think Gavin was just jealous. So-called “getting married, I have 81,000 emails” excuse. Fo’ sho’

  313. Douglas Watts said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:15

    There needs to be a cap on dunces.

  314. LA Confidential Pantload said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:25

    Doughverines!

  315. Smut Clyde said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:31

    There needs to be a cap on dunces.
    That requires the existence of a system for trading emissions.

  316. sagra said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:48

    Wow. It’s sad when your political Raison d’être is based on being mad at the Kos Kids for calling you a poopy head.

  317. skippy said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:48

    well i’m using my 8 trak and the page looks fine.

  318. skippy said,

    June 26, 2008 at 0:56

    oh, and by the way, michelle obama was apparently talking about pitchers for the yankees, including whitey ford.

  319. tigrismus said,

    June 26, 2008 at 1:05

    The page looks great on a HAL 9000, but could somebody open the pod bay doors already? This is getting ridiculous.

  320. Doctor Missus Marita said,

    June 26, 2008 at 1:09

    I happen to think Gavin was just jealous. So-called “getting married, I have 81,000 emails” excuse. Fo’ sho’

    I was wondering why Gavin always calls me his “little sockpuppet”! Turns out I’m completely fictional!

  321. mikey said,

    June 26, 2008 at 1:18

    Turns out I’m completely fictional!

    With my history of hallucinations, I can’t argue the point.

    But even if you were a figment of my dented and rusted imagination, you were still quite the vision…

    mikey

  322. Djur said,

    June 26, 2008 at 1:32

    Yawn. 64-bit is so vanilla these days, Djur. ;-P

    Well, normally I’m sshing into my LISP machine in the core of the sun, but solar flares are causing a lot of packet loss right now.

    PeeJ: Dropped you an email.

  323. Atlas Scruggs said,

    June 26, 2008 at 2:24

    Hey, at least Poopy Head lost his Bolton.

  324. AmericanNero said,

    June 26, 2008 at 3:16

    Consider the possibility that Joe Cannon at Cannonfire and Larry Johnson of NoQuarter are actually still spooks in someone’s service. If not, I guess they are just acting crazy because they ARE crazy.

  325. Kathleen said,

    June 26, 2008 at 3:56

    Turns out I’m completely fictional!

    Indeed! The fact that you arranged that Portland get-together ONLY PROVES MY POINT!

  326. Anna Belle said,

    June 26, 2008 at 5:25

    Casting the object of your ire in the clothes and persona of the opposite sex, especially male-as-female, is a very MoDo thing to do thing to do. Just sayin’.

  327. Susan Nunes said,

    June 26, 2008 at 5:32

    What a pathetic post, especially after supporting a candidate who has run the filthiest campaign in the history of the Democratic Party.

    I can’t wait to see all of the crow eaten when Obama goes down in certain defeat.

  328. Righteous Bubba said,

    June 26, 2008 at 5:38

    What a pathetic post, especially after supporting a candidate who has run the filthiest campaign in the history of the Democratic Party.

    History: The Last Frontier.

  329. Johnny Coelacanth said,

    June 26, 2008 at 6:57

    “I can’t wait to see all of the crow eaten when Obama goes down in certain defeat.”

    Spoken like a true progressive, Susan. Thanks in advance for all your hard work in getting the eventual Democratic nominee elected. My candidate was John Edwards (Neither black nor female, what’s my problem?), and so I have decided that the only reasonable course of action is to write in Rudy Guliani. It’s TOTALLY what Mr. Edwards would want.

  330. Henry Holland said,

    June 26, 2008 at 7:53

    What a pathetic post, especially after supporting a candidate who has run the filthiest campaign in the history of the Democratic Party

    Yeah, that Richard Daley, he was such a saint. LBJ, such a nice Texan boy, played strictly by the rules. etc.

    Even by the low standards of S!N trolls, that’s pathetic, I’d rather be lectured by Saul than that crap.

    My candidate was John Edwards (Neither black nor female, what’s my problem?)

    Um, you’re homophobic, because he paid a lot of attention to his hair? Maybe?

    I was an Edwards supporter too, I wonder if he thinks “What the fuck was I thinking, folding like a deck of cards so early on?”.

  331. pedestrian said,

    June 26, 2008 at 15:10

    What a pathetic post, especially after supporting a candidate who has run the filthiest campaign in the history of the Democratic Party.

    Nice try, but to be truly Goldbergian you must insert, “from what I have read on the topic” or, “according to many historians” between “who” and “has”.

    Keep practicing, you’ll get there.

  332. Kathleen said,

    June 26, 2008 at 19:49

    to be truly Goldbergian you must insert, “from what I have read on the topic” or, “according to many historians”

    you also have to explain that “You Totally Could Too Write A Longer Better Analysis But You Have To Run Because You’re Very Busy”

  333. Kathleen said,

    June 26, 2008 at 19:52

    I can’t wait to see all of the crow eaten when Obama goes down in certain defeat.

    Is that why the pelicans are out to get us then?

  334. Blaire Pascal said,

    June 26, 2008 at 22:09

    you also have to explain that “You Totally Could Too Write A Longer Better Analysis But You Have To Run Because You’re Very Busy”

    It worked for me!

  335. blogslut said,

    June 27, 2008 at 8:40

    The “feminists” of the P.U.M.A. variety have a new crisis: How to ignore the fact that their shiny, new nobama network was created by a porn webmaster.

    Wonkette has the skinny here

  336. Sadly, No! » Psst. Ace. We Have The Tape. said,

    October 29, 2008 at 7:21

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