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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-624193</link>
		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that&#039;s OK. It&#039;ll make it easier to present the *reparations bill* to every white person making over $50,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s OK. It&#8217;ll make it easier to present the *reparations bill* to every white person making over $50,000.</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-623828</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be entertaining when the current administration&#039;s worshippers figure out all the Unitary Executive Superpowers they&#039;ve been supporting will &lt;I&gt;still be around&lt;/I&gt; for President Obama. Watch the backpedaling begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be entertaining when the current administration&#8217;s worshippers figure out all the Unitary Executive Superpowers they&#8217;ve been supporting will <i>still be around</i> for President Obama. Watch the backpedaling begin.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Rhoades</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-623811</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D. Rhoades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with these idiots is that they have no grasp of the concept that some rights, like the right not to be arbitrarily detained without recourse, are HUMAN rights, not just American ones. 

Of course, they feel like their Dear Leader should have the power to determine who is and who is not human, so it may be a moot point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with these idiots is that they have no grasp of the concept that some rights, like the right not to be arbitrarily detained without recourse, are HUMAN rights, not just American ones. </p>
<p>Of course, they feel like their Dear Leader should have the power to determine who is and who is not human, so it may be a moot point.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-623762</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Obama already said he wouln’t try to hold anyone accountable. If he did he’d have to roll back the powers they gained, as Chris Floyd and Arthur Silber said. We know for a fact, now, that he wants those extralegal powers.

It’s a sad state of affairs, but at least we know the truth now.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought it would be restful, just for once, to have a Democratic candidate for President that I didn&#039;t really care about -- a guy I just could pull the lever for, without caring about his personal priorities, because at least this time he was *bound* to be better than Old John McSame. 

But no matter how cynical I think I am, our politicians can always find a nadir below my expectations.

(Of course I&#039;ll still vote for the Democratic nominee, because if it&#039;s Obama, he&#039;s established that his convictions are for sale to the loudest voice, and there will be *lots* of voices calling for &lt;strike&gt;hanging&lt;/strike&gt; an examination of the Cheney/Bush interregnum come January 2009... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama already said he wouln’t try to hold anyone accountable. If he did he’d have to roll back the powers they gained, as Chris Floyd and Arthur Silber said. We know for a fact, now, that he wants those extralegal powers.</p>
<p>It’s a sad state of affairs, but at least we know the truth now.</i></p>
<p>I thought it would be restful, just for once, to have a Democratic candidate for President that I didn&#8217;t really care about &#8212; a guy I just could pull the lever for, without caring about his personal priorities, because at least this time he was *bound* to be better than Old John McSame. </p>
<p>But no matter how cynical I think I am, our politicians can always find a nadir below my expectations.</p>
<p>(Of course I&#8217;ll still vote for the Democratic nominee, because if it&#8217;s Obama, he&#8217;s established that his convictions are for sale to the loudest voice, and there will be *lots* of voices calling for <strike>hanging</strike> an examination of the Cheney/Bush interregnum come January 2009&#8230; )</p>
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		<title>By: KevinD</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-623749</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other day I stopped and listened a minute to the &quot;Beltway Boneheads&quot; on FOX.  One said &quot;This ruling means our soldiers will have to pick up every cartridge case for evidence when they&#039;re fighting ...&quot;
I had to change channels when my head started to hurt too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day I stopped and listened a minute to the &#8220;Beltway Boneheads&#8221; on FOX.  One said &#8220;This ruling means our soldiers will have to pick up every cartridge case for evidence when they&#8217;re fighting &#8230;&#8221;<br />
I had to change channels when my head started to hurt too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan of Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-623714</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan of Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie Laurie, Obama already said he wouln&#039;t try to hold anyone accountable. If he did he&#039;d have to roll back the powers they gained, as Chris Floyd and Arthur Silber said. We know for a fact, now, that he wants those extralegal powers.

It&#039;s a sad state of affairs, but at least we know the truth now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie Laurie, Obama already said he wouln&#8217;t try to hold anyone accountable. If he did he&#8217;d have to roll back the powers they gained, as Chris Floyd and Arthur Silber said. We know for a fact, now, that he wants those extralegal powers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sad state of affairs, but at least we know the truth now.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The judiciary is not competent to make judgments about who is … a threat to the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The judiciary is not competent to make judgments about who is … a threat to the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Scarf Dufarge</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-3#comment-623712</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Scarf Dufarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, is it just me, or am I getting longer every day?</description>
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		<title>By: 77south</title>
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		<dc:creator>77south</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;poor impulse control&quot; is a forehead tattoo for people for people who are both cooler and more dangerous than the sad losers who voted for and supported this issue.  The forehead tattoo needed by these people would say something like &quot;craven coward with criminally bad risk assesment skills&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;poor impulse control&#8221; is a forehead tattoo for people for people who are both cooler and more dangerous than the sad losers who voted for and supported this issue.  The forehead tattoo needed by these people would say something like &#8220;craven coward with criminally bad risk assesment skills&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kenga</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-2#comment-623709</link>
		<dc:creator>kenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who is the enemy here? You guess it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Quite clearly, it is the fear-driven fools and the useful idiots, who possess ignorance in abundance and live by the &quot;let&#039;s you and him fight&quot; creed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who is the enemy here? You guess it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite clearly, it is the fear-driven fools and the useful idiots, who possess ignorance in abundance and live by the &#8220;let&#8217;s you and him fight&#8221; creed.</p>
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		<title>By: kenga</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, Joe Buddha is onto something that could be quite useful.
Mind you, there would need to exist a Senator or three, and several Representatives for when the bills go to conference, for it to work.

But, if that Senator or three can insert language requiring lists of weapons from gun owners - or maybe be just gun owner/dealers even, and also requiring compliance with on-demand inspection by DHS/ATF, then this bill goes down in flames.
Just so long as the NRA gets incensed and publicly involved, it&#039;s toast.
I mean, if you&#039;re going to take a dump directly on the 4th Amendment, and splatter the 14th and maybe 9th, well, why not go for broke and hit #2, too?
It&#039;s not like hundreds of Americans are killed every year by gunfire, and you never know when another DC-type sniper(speaking of inspecting gun dealer inventories) is going to crop up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, Joe Buddha is onto something that could be quite useful.<br />
Mind you, there would need to exist a Senator or three, and several Representatives for when the bills go to conference, for it to work.</p>
<p>But, if that Senator or three can insert language requiring lists of weapons from gun owners &#8211; or maybe be just gun owner/dealers even, and also requiring compliance with on-demand inspection by DHS/ATF, then this bill goes down in flames.<br />
Just so long as the NRA gets incensed and publicly involved, it&#8217;s toast.<br />
I mean, if you&#8217;re going to take a dump directly on the 4th Amendment, and splatter the 14th and maybe 9th, well, why not go for broke and hit #2, too?<br />
It&#8217;s not like hundreds of Americans are killed every year by gunfire, and you never know when another DC-type sniper(speaking of inspecting gun dealer inventories) is going to crop up.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Eper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Eper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s review:  this week, the liberals rejoiced over a decision that gave terrorists more rights than citizens.  Now they wail because we can monitor their treasonous talk.  Who is the enemy here?  You guess it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s review:  this week, the liberals rejoiced over a decision that gave terrorists more rights than citizens.  Now they wail because we can monitor their treasonous talk.  Who is the enemy here?  You guess it.</p>
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		<title>By: Heretic</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-2#comment-623706</link>
		<dc:creator>Heretic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Our Dead Selves:

Exactly.  I get what you&#039;re saying.  My point is that the people who benefit from the war should pay for it with their own lives, not any others.  Poor white Republicans don&#039;t make any money from the war.  It&#039;s a class thing, not a race thing.  If you want to invade a foreign country, go do it.  But don&#039;t pull a Bill O&#039;Reilly on me, and be a total chickenhawk.  If you advocate taking over a foreign nation aggressively, put your ass on the line.  Or run away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Our Dead Selves:</p>
<p>Exactly.  I get what you&#8217;re saying.  My point is that the people who benefit from the war should pay for it with their own lives, not any others.  Poor white Republicans don&#8217;t make any money from the war.  It&#8217;s a class thing, not a race thing.  If you want to invade a foreign country, go do it.  But don&#8217;t pull a Bill O&#8217;Reilly on me, and be a total chickenhawk.  If you advocate taking over a foreign nation aggressively, put your ass on the line.  Or run away.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagg</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-2#comment-623705</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I was getting at in this post: http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I was getting at in this post: <a href="http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9723.html/comment-page-2#comment-623704</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I can&#039;t &lt;i&gt;wait&lt;/i&gt; until the right wing realizes that all the powers they&#039;ve just granted to U.S. authorities to search &amp; seize without probable cause, and to monitor &amp; wiretap without warrant, &lt;b&gt;applies to the &lt;i&gt;IRS&lt;/i&gt; too&lt;/b&gt;.

But they didn&#039;t think of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I can&#8217;t <i>wait</i> until the right wing realizes that all the powers they&#8217;ve just granted to U.S. authorities to search &amp; seize without probable cause, and to monitor &amp; wiretap without warrant, <b>applies to the <i>IRS</i> too</b>.</p>
<p>But they didn&#8217;t think of that.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne Laurie:  But surely if we forgive the Cheneyites for a &lt;b&gt;fourth&lt;/b&gt; giant scheme to subvert the Constitution and lawful government, they&#039;ll &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;finally&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; stop trying to do it again, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Laurie:  But surely if we forgive the Cheneyites for a <b>fourth</b> giant scheme to subvert the Constitution and lawful government, they&#8217;ll <b><i>finally</i></b> stop trying to do it again, right?</p>
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		<title>By: celticgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>celticgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me the real reason they want to avoid due legal process for the so-called &quot;terrorists&quot; being held is quite simple: the basis of U.S. law is still that the accused is deemed innocent until proven guilty.  If the government can avoid the constraints of US legal process they don&#039;t have to &quot;prove&quot; anything in order to hold these people indefinitely.  Look at the track record so far of terrorist prosecutions = epic fail.  Even the men they have decided truly are innocent are still being held at Guantanamo. How the fuck does that work?

That justifies all the bullshit they&#039;ve pulled so far - secrecy, rendition, torture, secret prisons etc.  The U.S. government, using 9/11 for justification, simply changed the rules while we weren&#039;t looking.  I hate to break it to you, but your so-called inalienable rights are long gone. Now you are guilty until they say you are not - which may be never, since you won&#039;t get any due process if you are considered an &#039;enemy combatant&#039; (which they get to define). And it doesn&#039;t matter if you are a U.S. citizen btw (Jose Padillia leaps to mind). Guilty or not, his treatment at the hands of his captors was outrageous.

Any frightwing bedwetter that doesn&#039;t understand this - that anyone, ANYONE will be treated this way if they become &#039;suspect&#039; - had better get it through their thick fucking skulls that their rights went right down the toilet with the so-called terrorists&#039; rights.  

Supreme Court decision or no, the rule of law will continue to be flagrantly abused by BushCo. as long as they can get away with it.  Getting an actual constitutional lawyer elected president would be a nice first step to turning the U.S. back to the rule of law our country was founded on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me the real reason they want to avoid due legal process for the so-called &#8220;terrorists&#8221; being held is quite simple: the basis of U.S. law is still that the accused is deemed innocent until proven guilty.  If the government can avoid the constraints of US legal process they don&#8217;t have to &#8220;prove&#8221; anything in order to hold these people indefinitely.  Look at the track record so far of terrorist prosecutions = epic fail.  Even the men they have decided truly are innocent are still being held at Guantanamo. How the fuck does that work?</p>
<p>That justifies all the bullshit they&#8217;ve pulled so far &#8211; secrecy, rendition, torture, secret prisons etc.  The U.S. government, using 9/11 for justification, simply changed the rules while we weren&#8217;t looking.  I hate to break it to you, but your so-called inalienable rights are long gone. Now you are guilty until they say you are not &#8211; which may be never, since you won&#8217;t get any due process if you are considered an &#8216;enemy combatant&#8217; (which they get to define). And it doesn&#8217;t matter if you are a U.S. citizen btw (Jose Padillia leaps to mind). Guilty or not, his treatment at the hands of his captors was outrageous.</p>
<p>Any frightwing bedwetter that doesn&#8217;t understand this &#8211; that anyone, ANYONE will be treated this way if they become &#8217;suspect&#8217; &#8211; had better get it through their thick fucking skulls that their rights went right down the toilet with the so-called terrorists&#8217; rights.  </p>
<p>Supreme Court decision or no, the rule of law will continue to be flagrantly abused by BushCo. as long as they can get away with it.  Getting an actual constitutional lawyer elected president would be a nice first step to turning the U.S. back to the rule of law our country was founded on.</p>
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		<title>By: Djur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Djur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, hanging Saddam is one of the very few things Bush succeeded at, and I’d really appreciate the irony.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, actually, what Bush succeeded at was keeping Saddam Hussein &lt;i&gt;alive&lt;/i&gt; until the end of the trial, after which he was unceremoniously handed to his political enemies and subjected to a public execution by death squad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, hanging Saddam is one of the very few things Bush succeeded at, and I’d really appreciate the irony.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, actually, what Bush succeeded at was keeping Saddam Hussein <i>alive</i> until the end of the trial, after which he was unceremoniously handed to his political enemies and subjected to a public execution by death squad.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, hanging is too good for them.  However, hanging Saddam is one of the very few things Bush succeeded at, and I&#039;d really appreciate the irony.  It&#039;s a conundrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, hanging is too good for them.  However, hanging Saddam is one of the very few things Bush succeeded at, and I&#8217;d really appreciate the irony.  It&#8217;s a conundrum.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowwy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowwy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Poor Impulse Control&quot;</description>
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