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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: Batocchio</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9706.html#comment-623426</link>
		<dc:creator>Batocchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristol, Krauthammer, Goldberg, and Richard Cohen come to mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Wza</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9706.html#comment-623377</link>
		<dc:creator>Wza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we have no control over private organs, I&#039;d like to vote for two people at the public trough.

U.S. - Daniel Schorr&#039;s commentaries on NPR are consistently trivial platitudes whatever his former journalistic prowess. 

Canada - I&#039;d vote for Rex Murphy. He&#039;s a pompous windbag who uses a rococo vocabulary that he doesn&#039;t understand to state opinions that are usually daft, obvious, or indiscernable. His commentaries on the national public television news show, weekly call-in show and his columns in the Globe and Mail should all be abolished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we have no control over private organs, I&#8217;d like to vote for two people at the public trough.</p>
<p>U.S. &#8211; Daniel Schorr&#8217;s commentaries on NPR are consistently trivial platitudes whatever his former journalistic prowess. </p>
<p>Canada &#8211; I&#8217;d vote for Rex Murphy. He&#8217;s a pompous windbag who uses a rococo vocabulary that he doesn&#8217;t understand to state opinions that are usually daft, obvious, or indiscernable. His commentaries on the national public television news show, weekly call-in show and his columns in the Globe and Mail should all be abolished.</p>
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		<title>By: dadanarchist</title>
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		<dc:creator>dadanarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not Hitch. He is a damn good and funny writer, which is why I was dismayed when he became pro-war: a vicious polemicist, you certainly don&#039;t want him writing against you.

And despite the fact that he is spectacularly wrong about so much these days, he still hits his old stride now and then (Falwell takedown, recent short article on the death of Bohemia).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not Hitch. He is a damn good and funny writer, which is why I was dismayed when he became pro-war: a vicious polemicist, you certainly don&#8217;t want him writing against you.</p>
<p>And despite the fact that he is spectacularly wrong about so much these days, he still hits his old stride now and then (Falwell takedown, recent short article on the death of Bohemia).</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Breath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier Breath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dowd.
I wish I had some Dowd-be-gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dowd.<br />
I wish I had some Dowd-be-gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorghagen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9706.html#comment-623209</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorghagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are they bothering? Why are they alternating between distancing themselves from Bush (who was never a real conservative anyway) and cheer-leading for his most transparently venal policy?… Surely there is some way they could ignore this ANWR fiasco-in-the-making, and so look less like nimrods, but still retain their credentials.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simple partisanship is always a big motivation. Oil companies are allied with their side and environmentalists are generally allied with the other side, so conservative pundits defend oil companies and attack environmentalists as a matter of course. Money&#039;s a factor - some pundits are likely getting paid by think tanks or other institutions that are partly funded by oil company donations.

And they have no reason &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to cheerlead for the oil companies. I don&#039;t think many of them are concerned about their credentials. Their rightwing audience judges pundits&#039; reputations on the basis of their loyalty to the party line, not on their integrity or expertise, and so long as they maintain that loyalty they don&#039;t have much to worry about. The press is still afraid of the far right and even major papers like the New York Times or the Washington Post would be very reluctant to can a conservative commentator unless they really had to. Looking sleazy is just not a problem for these guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are they bothering? Why are they alternating between distancing themselves from Bush (who was never a real conservative anyway) and cheer-leading for his most transparently venal policy?… Surely there is some way they could ignore this ANWR fiasco-in-the-making, and so look less like nimrods, but still retain their credentials.</p></blockquote>
<p>Simple partisanship is always a big motivation. Oil companies are allied with their side and environmentalists are generally allied with the other side, so conservative pundits defend oil companies and attack environmentalists as a matter of course. Money&#8217;s a factor &#8211; some pundits are likely getting paid by think tanks or other institutions that are partly funded by oil company donations.</p>
<p>And they have no reason <i>not</i> to cheerlead for the oil companies. I don&#8217;t think many of them are concerned about their credentials. Their rightwing audience judges pundits&#8217; reputations on the basis of their loyalty to the party line, not on their integrity or expertise, and so long as they maintain that loyalty they don&#8217;t have much to worry about. The press is still afraid of the far right and even major papers like the New York Times or the Washington Post would be very reluctant to can a conservative commentator unless they really had to. Looking sleazy is just not a problem for these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Deena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why only one? It&#039;s unfair! Kathleen Parker is a must. And Kristol. And Hitchens. And Krauthammer. Friedman, in a jiffy (what a bloated gasbag). Ditto Goldberg. Limbaugh without a blink. Whom to choose, oh whom to choose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why only one? It&#8217;s unfair! Kathleen Parker is a must. And Kristol. And Hitchens. And Krauthammer. Friedman, in a jiffy (what a bloated gasbag). Ditto Goldberg. Limbaugh without a blink. Whom to choose, oh whom to choose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another pundit-related question for you, inspired by an earlier ANWR-related thread. 
I mean, at the moment you have a unpopular president, with ties to the oil industry, proposing to hand national parks over to the oil companies, so that they can increase their already record-breaking profits by selling any oil therein to whichever country will pay them the most. Surely even the American voters will smell the bullshit at this point, and this particular kite will not fly.
Nevertheless, the usual suspects have received the fax, and now they are catapulting the propaganda like Energiser bunnies with little bunny-sized trebuchets. Why are they bothering? Why are they alternating between distancing themselves from Bush (who was &lt;i&gt;never a real conservative anyway&lt;/i&gt;) and cheer-leading for his most transparently venal policy? Why are they tying themselves to a sinking duck? (unless I mean a lame ship). Surely there is some way they could ignore this ANWR fiasco-in-the-making, and so look less like nimrods, but still retain their credentials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another pundit-related question for you, inspired by an earlier ANWR-related thread.<br />
I mean, at the moment you have a unpopular president, with ties to the oil industry, proposing to hand national parks over to the oil companies, so that they can increase their already record-breaking profits by selling any oil therein to whichever country will pay them the most. Surely even the American voters will smell the bullshit at this point, and this particular kite will not fly.<br />
Nevertheless, the usual suspects have received the fax, and now they are catapulting the propaganda like Energiser bunnies with little bunny-sized trebuchets. Why are they bothering? Why are they alternating between distancing themselves from Bush (who was <i>never a real conservative anyway</i>) and cheer-leading for his most transparently venal policy? Why are they tying themselves to a sinking duck? (unless I mean a lame ship). Surely there is some way they could ignore this ANWR fiasco-in-the-making, and so look less like nimrods, but still retain their credentials.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorghagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snorghagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I like Snorhagen’s idea, of an overall award with categories. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks - but I wasn&#039;t really proposing anything. I just had a hard time picking a single uber-jerk, so I made a list of some of the more prominent obnoxious commentators and divided them into groups because they disgusted me for different reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I like Snorhagen’s idea, of an overall award with categories. </p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks &#8211; but I wasn&#8217;t really proposing anything. I just had a hard time picking a single uber-jerk, so I made a list of some of the more prominent obnoxious commentators and divided them into groups because they disgusted me for different reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: MarktheSpark</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote William &quot;the Bloody&quot; Kristol as first choice. His love of the death and maiming of brown people is legendary, and he&#039;ll even support the death of good &#039;Murikan youth if it achieves that end.
Little Tommy &quot;Suck on This&quot; Friedman of the small Unit would be 2nd place choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote William &#8220;the Bloody&#8221; Kristol as first choice. His love of the death and maiming of brown people is legendary, and he&#8217;ll even support the death of good &#8216;Murikan youth if it achieves that end.<br />
Little Tommy &#8220;Suck on This&#8221; Friedman of the small Unit would be 2nd place choice.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many idiots in the Op Ed sections, so little space on an island.  How about we just send Erik Pontoppidan, concern troll there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many idiots in the Op Ed sections, so little space on an island.  How about we just send Erik Pontoppidan, concern troll there?</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I like Snorhagen’s idea, of an overall award with categories.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe it could be called the &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20060926095034/http://www.thepoorman.net/2005/12/27/yes-virginia-there-really-is-a-john-gibson-now-get-the-hell-away-from-him/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Golden Winger Awards.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I like Snorhagen’s idea, of an overall award with categories.</i></p>
<p>Maybe it could be called the <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060926095034/http://www.thepoorman.net/2005/12/27/yes-virginia-there-really-is-a-john-gibson-now-get-the-hell-away-from-him/" rel="nofollow">Golden Winger Awards.</a></p>
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		<title>By: another jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>another jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Snorhagen&#039;s idea, of an overall award with categories.

That said, personally, NO ONE gets under my skin like Brooks does. Just the tapioca-pudding writing style of his pleasantries, the *awful* logic, the blatant manipulativeness of smarmy reasonable-guy tone - it makes me angry like nothing since seeing Poison top the charts while Anthrax struggled with their label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Snorhagen&#8217;s idea, of an overall award with categories.</p>
<p>That said, personally, NO ONE gets under my skin like Brooks does. Just the tapioca-pudding writing style of his pleasantries, the *awful* logic, the blatant manipulativeness of smarmy reasonable-guy tone &#8211; it makes me angry like nothing since seeing Poison top the charts while Anthrax struggled with their label.</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confounding factors!
Before using roac&#039;s blood-pressure measurements, we must correct them for the effects of the sexual attractiveness of the pundit in question.</description>
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Before using roac&#8217;s blood-pressure measurements, we must correct them for the effects of the sexual attractiveness of the pundit in question.</p>
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		<title>By: roac</title>
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		<dc:creator>roac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scientific thing to do would be to measure how much each of these folks makes my blood pressure go up.

My subjective impression is that Krauthammer pisses me off more than any of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scientific thing to do would be to measure how much each of these folks makes my blood pressure go up.</p>
<p>My subjective impression is that Krauthammer pisses me off more than any of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Greenberg just shot way up on my list today after his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1024152.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;slobbery blowjob on Scalia.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Greenberg just shot way up on my list today after his <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1024152.html" rel="nofollow">slobbery blowjob on Scalia.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Djur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Djur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to back the nomination of Debra Saunders. There&#039;s something about her special blend of tendenciousness and venom that makes my eyes bleed and hands shake every time I inadvertently start reading one of her columns. She&#039;s the hardcore Republican footsoldier version of Maureen Dowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to back the nomination of Debra Saunders. There&#8217;s something about her special blend of tendenciousness and venom that makes my eyes bleed and hands shake every time I inadvertently start reading one of her columns. She&#8217;s the hardcore Republican footsoldier version of Maureen Dowd.</p>
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		<title>By: purvis ames</title>
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		<dc:creator>purvis ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novakula by a nose.</description>
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		<title>By: CWD</title>
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		<dc:creator>CWD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/09/AR2008060902239.html?hpid=opinionsbox1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Anne Applebaum&lt;/a&gt;?
She &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/16/AR2007071601289_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pisses&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com//blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2007/10/16/re-speaking-of-xx-again.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;me&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/?id=2061973&amp;device=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;off&lt;/a&gt;.  I have been forced to stop reading her stuff as I find myself clenching my jaw so hard I fear I may break a tooth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/09/AR2008060902239.html?hpid=opinionsbox1" rel="nofollow"> Anne Applebaum</a>?<br />
She <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/16/AR2007071601289_pf.html" rel="nofollow">pisses</a> <a href="http://www.slate.com//blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2007/10/16/re-speaking-of-xx-again.aspx" rel="nofollow">me</a> <a href="http://www.slate.com/?id=2061973&amp;device=" rel="nofollow">off</a>.  I have been forced to stop reading her stuff as I find myself clenching my jaw so hard I fear I may break a tooth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When will Samuelson return Friedman’s mustache? Is it like shared custody? Do they publish on separate days so they can swap it back and forth?&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s why I say get rid of them both--I suspect this is just the same model, only with a few minor surface changes to fool the unsuspecting.

Like the old GEO Prism and Toyota Corolla.  Only evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When will Samuelson return Friedman’s mustache? Is it like shared custody? Do they publish on separate days so they can swap it back and forth?</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I say get rid of them both&#8211;I suspect this is just the same model, only with a few minor surface changes to fool the unsuspecting.</p>
<p>Like the old GEO Prism and Toyota Corolla.  Only evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Frum looks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGVoVN_rQYc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott Thompson.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Frum looks like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGVoVN_rQYc" rel="nofollow">Scott Thompson.</a></p>
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