May
3
3
“My white penis is a-scurred.”
Must be a slow day over in Malkinland, since she’s gone back to her tired “I’m-going-to-show-scary-people-with-signs” routine. This pic, though, deserves special recognition for its all-out awesomeness:
Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade? Maybe if you wrote, “My angry immigrant vagina will put a permanent burqa over your puny little honky schlong.” But other than that, I can’t think of anything.
Anyone know how Ace is taking this development yet?
Jennifer said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:33
Heh. I used to have an alter-ego, “Scary Vagina”, over at Eschaton.
But Angry Immigrant Vagina outscaries Scary Vagina any ole day.
¡El Gato Negro! said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:38
That ees like eight different kinds of teh awesome.
punto.
Cangrejero said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:42
To be fair, not being able to see past her face means that it could read ‘hungry’ instead of angry, which means we might need to put Ace on suicide watch.
Angry Immigrant Vagina said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:44
I HUNGER!!
pedestrian said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:48
I don’t know what they are so worried about. If she is really as leftist as all that she’ll abort all of her lesbian-sex-conceived anchor babies anyway.
Vaginastar said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:50
I HUNGER!!
RUN COWARD!
Dr. Weird said,
May 3, 2008 at 23:52
Gentlemen….my ASS has finally decided to eat my hand!!! It hungers…….FOR MORE!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAA
George Constanza said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:06
Shrinkage!!!
agc said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:16
Maybe her vagina is in some ways reminiscent of Felix Unger?
Fcb said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:21
Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade?
“My immigrant vagina is hungry.”
Hungover Antipodean Penis said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:21
They hate us for our frenula.
Gary Ruppert said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:50
The fact is, I say, keep these reconquista loons in our faces, here in the Heartland, more proof that the hate-USA left is desperate and full of anger. The immigrant hordes threaten our culture and way of life, and impoversish us, and some of them are terrorists.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:51
Well this opens up a big bag of dicks, now doesn’t it?
Gary Ruppert said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:51
The fact is, its time for an angry face pic from Rachel St. Pancake Corrie, the queen of deluded self-hating hippie Americans.
Gary Ruppert said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:54
The fact is, tomorrow is May 4th, a day that will live in infamy. If only the national guard had shot more hippie traiters all over the country, we would have won Vietnam. American values take guts to defend. Time to wipe out some of these loony immigrant protests too, maybe theyll get the message and leave.
Some Guy said,
May 4, 2008 at 0:59
All the things wingnuts fear and hate in one pic.
Immigrants: Check.
Protests: Check.
Vaginas/Women: Check.
Armband: Check.
And I’m giving an honorary check for ‘teh gay’ due to lady with multi-color (rainbow?) satchel that makes my gaydar twinge.
If only it had a smattering of health care / environmentalism, and it would be the perfect storm of LIEBRALS!!ZOMG!1
MajorKong said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:04
Eeeek! Scary brown people! Eeeeek!
trizzlor said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:06
Anytime I need to purge after a weekend of twinkies and doritos I just head over to Malkinland. Although I get a sick pleasure out of imagining neocon nightmares of protest girls climbing out of their computer like in The Ring.
trizzlor said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:13
Gotta love this too:
Navy launches Imperial Star Destroyer - “Taking the Fight to the Enemy”
Because if there’s anything we’ve learned from the occupation it’s that the terrorists are hiding in the water, and we need more billion dollar combat ships to take them out.
Welsh Person said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:15
I still think Ace had a point. Vaginae are not particularly aesthetically pleasing. Nor are penises. That’s why sexual intercourse feels the way it does. I mean, look at that junk. And then you put the thing with the other thing and there’s noises like frogs farting in mud. We needed a fucking incentive.
Awesomeness captured on film « break the terror said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:16
[…] captured on film Sadly, No! shares this picture, which dickslapper Michelle Malkin is complaining about, from a May Day protest in […]
Brandi said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:17
I’m surprised someone hasn’t come up with a satirical comic (from either side) involving the Latina equivalent to Grant Morrison’s rather twisted superhuman, Mother of Champions.
Scary Vagina said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:17
For something that’s not particularly aesthetically pleasing, men sure do want to look at them an awful lot.
eidos said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:22
Uppity xeno-vaginas with attitude… yep, very frightening to the wingnuts.
But I think the ‘nuts are quite comfortable with armbands.
Rainbow Mafia said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:41
“My Islamigrant dick is angry.”
Duh.
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:47
I always assumed that BECAUSE I so very much wanted to look at them they were the very definition of aesthetically pleasing. Do I misunderstand the whole cause/effect dealio?
But the young lady’s sign confuses me. It seems to be saying she was assembled, at least partially using imported parts. Is her vagina an immigrant all on it’s own, or only because it’s attached to an immigrant? She doesn’t actually say “I’m an immigrant and my vagina is -ngry!”
Is there a poor woman in Guatemala who doesn’t have a vagina?
mikey
Some Guy said,
May 4, 2008 at 1:53
Given the speed and shallow draft, as well as he history of modern (post-WWII) combat ships, I’d assuming the LCS is has a total of 0 armor, though it might have some Kevlar or other light weight weave armor added to key sections. I’d be worried that this would make the LCS-classes of ships extremely vulnerable to attack, especially given their mission of close-area work to shorelines. In addition , their shallow draft would seem to limit their survivability at open seas, especially in rough weather, which could make re-deployment slow and difficult.
It’s very possible there’s technology or tricks being implemented that can counter those apparent drawbacks that I’m not aware of, since I don’t feel like slogging through pages and links for a few hours reading all the mundane details and military jargon. However, it would seem to me that the LCS capacity will be more or less strictly limited to assisting in landings/extractions along shorelines that are already incapable of defending themselves anyways (AKA “The best kind of American War: when the enemy can’t shoot back to start with”), or with large-scale support of capital ships and other forces that can provide cover.
The LCS is going to have a hard time being useful unless the Caribbean islands start getting uppity. But hey, it’s REALLY fast, so that should scare the terrorists!
Xenos said,
May 4, 2008 at 2:01
Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade?
Where the Regency University graduates at?
Sammy said,
May 4, 2008 at 2:02
Sinistar reference FTW.
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 2:04
Here’s the deal on the LCS, if you’re interested.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL33741.pdf
I saw some discussion on this on John Pike’s site back in ‘07. Truth to tell, it’s pretty clear to me that it’s just the navy trying to justify it’s existence in the day of asymmetric threats from non-state actors.
In other words, a way to milk a budget when they are increasingly irrelevant. Wouldn’t it be nice if we just defunded “defense” initiatives that were no longer of value?
Hah. Sorry, never mind…
mikey
Lesley said,
May 4, 2008 at 2:31
This is still my all time favourite scary vagina poster:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dulamae/175866636/
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 2:48
Count me in the “not particularly attractive” camp re genetalia. Functional, yes, but not very interesting. Based on the number of men who post pictures of their penises online, however, I assume I’m in the minority.
Yeah, the dick pic is as baffling to me as it probably is to straight women.
P.S. the frenula reference reminded me that mine has been reduced to a useless vestige by the superstitious and barbaric practice of MGM (or male genital mutilation.) Miss ya buddy.
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 2:58
I feel like I’ve been talking about my down-there-area a lot lately. If that bothers anyone, you can address your complaints to my freshman writing prof. She said, “Write what you know.” She didn’t mention any exceptions.
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:18
Yep.
Guns, dope and junk.
Right there with ya, pedestrian…
mikey
The Truth said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:21
Yeah, publicizing furious anti-American marches is really going to help the left.
I know you’re serious, because you people can’t help yourselves. But - wow, if you only knew what this looks like to the huge percentage of Americans who are a little taken aback by angry mobs of foreign citizens marching in their streets.
When President McCain is elected, will I be able to see the tear streaks right on the screen here?
Tara the anti-social social worker said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:26
Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade?
“Hi, I’m a military recruiter.”
Blue Buddha said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:31
Y’know, I always thought “The Angry Vagina” would make a great name for a dyke bar. “Hungry Vagina” works as well.
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:31
Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade?
“We’ve negotiated a fair and reasonable peace agreement and are recalling our forward deployed forces”.
mikey
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:31
“Hungry Vagina” works as well.
Only if they serve food…
mikey
Arky H8r of VürdPress said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:49
TtA-SSW FTW!
My feeble offering: “In order keep U.S. forces in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan at required levels, President McCane signed an executive order to re-instate the Draft…”
The rest is drowned out by the sound of Brown Squirts stampeding towards Canada.
Qetesh the Qaveat Qat said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:55
Wow. That’s a hell of a sign. Really.
But call me confusaled, but what exactly is she trying to say with it? I mean, is this a response to some pernicious legislation aimed at requiring all immigrant vaginas to show photo ID in bars? Will they have to put themselves on a bible and swear allegiance to god, the flag, and apple pie? Must they wear a flag lapel pin? What is it?
Ripley said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:57
Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade?
“Hey, dude! We’re out of Cheetos!”
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 3:59
I struggle with this.
And it would be helpful to agree on some modern nomenclature.
Perhaps my interpretation is out of date, but it causes me so much difficulty in interpretation.
FTW means Fuck The World.
FTA means Fuck The Army.
I have written and internalized those phrases so often, and so deeply, these FTW comment posts, while I can get past my initial interpretation and understand the core meaning, they are initially incomprehensible to me.
I know. I have problems. You have problems. My problems are not your problems.
But maybe we could find a less ambiguous way to say it?
Here’s hoping….
mikey
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:04
“Hungry Vagina” works as well.
Only if they serve food…
I can’t help imagining the friendly cartoon personification for the advertisements.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:20
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:04
“Hungry Vagina” works as well.
Only if they serve food…
Hungry like the Wolf!
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:21
Hilarious name for a Chinese Restaurant:
The Hungry Black Cock
I will even design the cartoon silkie holding chopsticks, free of charge.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:24
The tone or style of this article or section may not be appropriate for Wikipedia.
Tone it down, MFers!
mikey said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:28
That’s such crap.
Come on.
I give you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_dick
mikey
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:30
Happy meals.
Some Guy said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:31
The Truth is right guys. Nothing is more anti-American then angry protests. Just ask Boston.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_tea_party
Damn angry liberals. Why can’t we just sit down, shut up, and do what our Dear Leaders tell us?
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:33
It is also known as spotted dog, plum duff, steamed dicky, figgy dowdy, dotted lloyd, packphour’s lament, dicky widmark as well as plum bolster, Spotted Richard and, occasionally, Dickie Burton after the famous actor.
How did the Brits ever find time to build an empire?
jim said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:35
“When President McCain is elected, will I be able to see the tear streaks right on the screen here?”
Right alongside the flying pigs, darling.
You could find a shot of Obama & Wright in DRAG, & it STILL won’t erase all the images of McCain & Chimpboy palling around together. Let alone the one of them hugging each other like a pair of autistic grizzlies. You poor dumb hump - it must suck to support a party that’s at an ALL-TIME LOW in popularity going into an election, the same GOP that’s been losing even sure-fire “strongholds” one after another - can you see my tear-streaks right on the screen there?
Google “Election Cycle” sometime.
PROTIP: next time you drain the bottle & someone dares you to eat the worm, Just Say No.
Arky H8r of VürdPress said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:37
They were searching for cuisine that did not include dishes like Spotted Dick and Toad in the Hole.
Seen somewhere in the Midlands (not the Heartland) of the UK: A pub called the Blue Peter.
Brrr!
Blue Buddha said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:40
Seriously. All those names could double as a euphemism for penis.
zuzu said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:47
More askeered-ness on the right:
Wingnut discovers a communist on the streets of Seattle! Sign of things to come!
Thinly disguised antisemtic bloviating here.
DrDick said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:48
“Can you think of any combination of words that is more likely to elicit fear and loathing from the bed wetter brigade?”
How about, “Greetings: You will report to the …….. receiving station for your induction physical…”
Worked for me in 1971.
Blue Buddha said,
May 4, 2008 at 4:56
I skimmed trough that, and found it hi-fucking-larious that he bitches and moans about Trotsky in practically every sentence throughout the middle. The founders of the neocon movement started out as Trostkyists and you better believe some of those ideas are the foundation of neoconservativism.
zuzu said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:02
Yes, it’s rare to find such overheated pretentiousness in service of such ignorance.
Rightwingsnarkle said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:08
If her immigrant vagina is hungry, my native-born penis has plenty to share.
If her immigrant vagina is angry, my native-born penis is willing to listen.
Johnny Coelacanth said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:11
Gotta love those classy, life-affirming commenters at hot air: “Well,I’m sure if I gave her a nice douche with cold sulfuric acid she wouldn’t ever have to worry about her immigrant vagina being angry again….always glad to lend a helping hand.” Psychotically misogynist, much?
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:19
Psychotically misogynist, much?
That’s fine, as long as nobody mentions ping pong balls.
Johnny Coelacanth said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:26
Yeah, ping pong balls are demeaning and misogynist; giving a woman a sulphuric acid douche goes unremarked in Malkin’s comments.
bago said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:31
For The Win.
Gundamhead said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:37
“Johnny Coelacanth said,
Gotta love those classy, life-affirming commenters at hot air: “Well,I’m sure if I gave her a nice douche with cold sulfuric acid she wouldn’t ever have to worry about her immigrant vagina being angry again….always glad to lend a helping hand.” Psychotically misogynist, much?”
Yeah, well just remember that Liberals are the real misogynists, because they don’t like bombing Muslim women, which proves feminism is a lie. They’re the real racists to, because they’re always bringing up the Tuskegee experiments and lynching and making the darkies listen to rap.
Gary Ruppert said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:39
The fact is, liberals are all faggots and the bitches of real Americans, Heartlanders like myself. We fight for decencey, freedom and against media bias. And liberals suck. Here in the Heartland, we know how and what to support: USA! USA! USA! and those who do not aer commies and hate America.
Anne Laurie said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:42
The dyke bar in Chasing Amy is called Meow Mix, “because it’s always pussy chow time there… ”
Seen somewhere in the Midlands (not the Heartland) of the UK: A pub called the Blue Peter.
Arky, as you probably know, there is a long-running children’s BBC tv show called “Blue Peter.” According to Wikipedia, “It is named after the blue-and-white flag hoisted by a ship in port when it is ready to sail. The reasoning behind the choice of title is that the programme is intended to be a voyage of adventure and discovery for the viewers, constantly covering new topics.” It seems to be a kind of Good Morning America, only intended for viewers who are eight years old chronologically as well as intellectually. If the original Blue Peter was an actual nautical tradition, I believe it is safe to assume the name was meant as a double entendre — although, as was said of Gytha Ogg, “Most of what she called ‘double intenders’ were single intenders, and proud of it.”
Gary Ruppert said,
May 4, 2008 at 5:44
The fact is, Blue Peter was a Canadian Rock Band trying to be Roxy Music and FAIL.
The fact is said,
May 4, 2008 at 6:03
No true son of the Heartland would know about any sissy Canadian or English band. They know Cheap Trick, REO Speedwagon, Meatloaf and Bob Segar.
Francis Bacon-and-playdoh said,
May 4, 2008 at 6:56
“Damn you, Lyndon Johnson….”
Mrs Malkin’s septic tank of commenters never fails to bring a smile to my serene immigrant chops.
Snorghagen said,
May 4, 2008 at 7:09
In the linked thread, Malkin asked:
Why can’t the nutballs leave our flag alone?
Good question! I don’t know why nutballs can’t leave the flag alone. Perhaps the Cyber Pastor Ed can shed some light on this mystery.
Snorghagen said,
May 4, 2008 at 7:20
Nevermind the foreign citizens, pal. How many Americans will dare to resist the will of mobs of angry foreign vaginas?
A Nutball said,
May 4, 2008 at 7:33
Why can’t the nutballs leave our flag alone?
We ran out of toilet paper.
Doctorb Science said,
May 4, 2008 at 7:40
I have nothing bad to say about immigrant vaginas.
zuzu said,
May 4, 2008 at 7:51
Not a chance in the world Malkin or any of her flying monkeys have a clue where the term comes from:
Vagina Monologues: My Angry Vagina
Johnny Pez said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:02
Angry immigrant vagina dentata!
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:09
Angry
immigrantvagina dentata!Is it all men, or only gay men (or just me) who carry that image in the back of their heads somewhere?
Or is it a male genital mutatee thing?
jcricket said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:15
Angry vaginas?
Hungry vaginas?
Must be alien for sure.
Cuz as the owner of a native born vagina, I know what a greedy vagina is. I know what an attention-whore vagina is. Even a princess-syndrome vagina. But angry? My heart goes out to the owner of this angry vehicle of expression. It sounds as though it has been desensitized and become cynical,and jaded. Sad.
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:17
Apparently pedestrian’s genitals have mutated. Do they have any interesting super-powers now?
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:25
Sadly…
jcricket said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:30
mutatee?
OMG. Is that like mu-taters?
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:43
Sorry, it was another bad circumcision joke. I guess I’m still pissed about that.
jcricket said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:45
Well, at least you can still get pissed. There is hope.
a different brad said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:52
Nononono, everyone’s got it wrong.
It’s that seeing an angry vagina makes one hungry.
I could get dirtier, but then someone would smack me.
g said,
May 4, 2008 at 8:59
this Truth troll is pretty lame. What’s the deal? Is he the troll with lowest seniority, and all the other trolls have taken the weekend off?
jcricket said,
May 4, 2008 at 9:03
Who is the truth troll?
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 9:03
At first I thought pedestrian was complaining about genital manatees. I would have been more sympathetic about that.
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 9:31
Being a genital dentatee is an equally undesirable situation.
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 9:44
How did the Brits ever find time to build an empire?
As Anne Laurie has reminded us, they outsourced it to the lowest bidder, who turned out to be the Scots.
pedestrian said,
May 4, 2008 at 9:46
Well I’m not saying it is as bad as female genital mutilation, or lots of other bad things, but it was still a stupid idea. Did they have to pick the most sensitive part? I understand that the Victorians didn’t want boys to masturbate, but isn’t that a bit excessive?
Armchair theory time:
I think that a general trend in the development of language in post-colonial societies might be that accents will continue to develop in the mother country, while changing only very slowly and conservatively in the colonies. I know that is true in the case of Latin American Spanish and several of the regional American English accents, at least.
I wonder if that is also why most Canadians and Americans and Latin Americans who can afford it continue to get circumcised, long after Europe figured out that it wasn’t working. I would love to blame US conservatism in general on the same phenomenon, but we seem to be pretty special in that regard. Although Australia does have it’s own share of wingnuts…
Sorry, is this boring?
Some Guy said,
May 4, 2008 at 12:09
Well it does sorta make sense ina stupid sort of way, pedestrian. Foreskin is a natural catch-all for waste and dirt and general filth that would promote urinary infections among other things. But then, so do labia, and I don’t see too many western countries rushing to lop those off.
Given the advent of soap and sensible hygiene, it is rather an archaic practice that serves no use in modern life. It is, however, more or less benign, and probably won’t be dropped any time soon unless it turns out it does something horrible, like increase the chances that your kid with catch The Gay. Then it will be extint within a generation.
The Truth said,
May 4, 2008 at 12:28
I am sorry for my untoward comments about Obama, but the fact is I have never found a black man so enthralling in his vigor before. It makes me confused and frustrated, and I say strange things.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to clap my nads between two blocks of ice.
Qetesh the Qaveat Qat said,
May 4, 2008 at 12:30
Pedestrian, I think it was a hygiene thing, back when the Brits washed once a year whether they needed it or not. Lots of icky stuff got caught in there, apparently.
And Some Guy, I don’t think labia have the same catch-it-and-hold-it-close abilities. And someone once told me that the vagina was totally self-cleaning, which the penis is not. When she said that, I, an avid viewer/reviewer of Asian cinema, had an image of the traditional tiled public bathhouse from Japan, with some Japanese dude with a huge hose spraying the yuk off the tiles.
Hey, never said I was normal. And Ann Laurie, kudos on the Nanny Ogg reference: I want to be her when I grow up.
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 14:06
I, an avid viewer/reviewer of Asian cinema, had an image of the traditional tiled public bathhouse from Japan,
Being less exposed to Asian cinema, I’m reminded more of those gleaming modern self-cleaning toilet cubicles that you find in European cities. OK, even Seattle has them, so they can’t be that modern. Also they’re cylindrical rather than cubic but you know what I mean.
They evict you after 15 minutes and then start the high-pressure water jets of the rinsing cycle, so there the analogy breaks down.
Arky H8r of VürdPress said,
May 4, 2008 at 14:21
Sorry bud, I think it’s just you and Carl Jung (unless I mean Joe Campbell).
Human beings give me enough grief by opening the body part that does have teeth. I don’t have time to worry that whatever’s in their pants will leap out and start snapping away.
And how come there’s no myth about an asshole dentata?
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 14:34
There is nothing mythical about Malkin.
Jennifer said,
May 4, 2008 at 15:52
Re: the circumcision thing - I saw this documentary several years ago about how researchers had discovered that uncircumcised heterosexual men have a much higher rate of HIV infection. After studying why this might be, they found that there were specialized cells in the foreskin whose purpose it is to grab onto pathogens and deliver them to the lymphatic system for destruction. Which, of course, is the absolute worst thing to do with HIV virus, because it just sends it to exactly the spot where it can begin destroying the immune system. Based on this research, a lot of Africans who have not traditionally practised circumcision are choosing to have their sons circumcised as a protection against HIV infection.
Also in this documentary, they interviewed an American anti-circumcision group. Its members (heh) were horrified that many Africans are choosing circumcision to help protect against HIV infection. One of them, in fact, said that “it is a holocaust”. (Seriously, I’m NOT making this up.) So I’m sitting there and I’m thinking, uh, yeah, dude, but it’s a holocaust of FORESKINS rather than PEOPLE you twit!
Anyway, just some background info for ya there…
Snorghagen said,
May 4, 2008 at 16:05
Genital matinees? Why do they always schedule these things when I’m at work?!
Robert Waldmann said,
May 4, 2008 at 17:00
sneaky about how her head hides the first letter(s) in the word which ends ngry.
I was sorry to figure out (using geometry) that the sign says “my immigrant vagina is angry.” My first guess was “My immigrant vagina is hungry” oh yes was about to try to find out where, exactly, that hungry immigrant vagina is these days (the immigrant with an angry vagina is hot).
Oh yes, and I’m not (and I’m married) and it’s an angry vagina and I would never I mean … (face it Rob no hungry vagina is hungry for you).
Arky H8r of VürdPress said,
May 4, 2008 at 18:25
Further fun foreskin facts:
Did ya know there’s a type of cancer that leaves your little soldier looking like Lorena Bobbitt went at you with nail clippers and a blow torch? It’s true! It’s caused by prolonged (hur) contact with a caustic agent, to whit: schmegma. That’s right, your own body creates a substance that will eat your own personal penis RIGHT OFF and a foreskin is perfect for holding your toxic wastes nice and close.
I could probably find the pictures online somewhere but no one would thank me if I did. I wouldn’t thank me if I did. So, aesthetic preferences aside, foreskins are out to kill us.
Oh God, those guys belong in the same ward with the trauma of childbirth dopes. (Not the trauma of giving birth, but being born.) It really is embarrassing, not to mention dangerous. I suspect any woman who hears those guys probably wants to tell them a thing or two about the monthly fun. While stomping on their ‘nads.
tb said,
May 4, 2008 at 18:35
They’re just pissed because they’re ugly, bloated and middle-aged, with alarmingly unreliable erectile function and rotten personalities, and our demonstrations are full of hot women carrying signs about their vaginas.
mdhatter said,
May 4, 2008 at 19:12
So, aesthetic preferences aside, foreskins are out to kill us.
Arky - The ‘caustic’ schmeg - it washes right off. What you think to be bad aesthetics is 50% more sensitive real estate down there.
I win.
tb said,
May 4, 2008 at 20:05
Great, then I could blow my load in a stiff breeze.
Smut Clyde said,
May 4, 2008 at 22:29
50% more sensitive real estate down there
Oh noes! The bank has foreclosed on my asset!
Tom said,
May 4, 2008 at 22:55
Actually, I think that might just get them excited.
Tom said,
May 4, 2008 at 23:01
I have to admit that I don’t quite understand the sign. Is she saying that she has several vaginas (immigrant, domestic, tourist) but that her immigrant one is angry? What is it angry about? If I wasn’t ugly, bloated and middle-aged, with alarmingly unreliable erectile function I would definitely want to meet her to get more details. I could her show my collection of Trotsky record albums.
dim-witted badger said,
May 5, 2008 at 0:18
fucking angry pelican vaginas.
Hugh7 said,
May 5, 2008 at 0:30
Three out of four men in the world have whole penises, and no epidemic of cancer caused by smegma or anything else. Smegma (women have it too) is about as “caustic” as earwax. (And having enjoyed the full sensitivity life-long, it’s not a problem. They have the whole accelerator pedal, not just an on-off switch.)
The “protection” of circumcision against HIV is 50% at best (probably nil), so it’s like using condoms - half of them full of holes. If Africans rely on circumcision for protection, it will indeed be a holocaust of people.
Snorghagen said,
May 5, 2008 at 2:12
Smegma also makes a great dessert topping.
Jennifer said,
May 5, 2008 at 2:16
If you lived in an area where 25 - 50% of the people were infected with HIV, and circumcision could lower your chances of being infected by 50%, I’d say it would probably be worthwhile. Not to mention that every person not infected is one less person infecting others.
Lawnguylander said,
May 5, 2008 at 2:16
When I hear about the lost sensitivity I can’t help but feel that I got a little bit ripped off when I was circumcised. But then I think about how many extra zipper accidents I would have had by now and I conclude it was worth it.
tb said,
May 5, 2008 at 2:43
And everyone else just has half a cock. Nice. Way to make people feel good about themselves. No wonder everyone hates the anti-circumcision people.
Jill said,
May 5, 2008 at 4:50
I don’t hate anti-circumcision people. I actually like foreskin. I also like cut men. I also like angry vaginas.
I’m pretty much a whore.
And yet, I still don’t understand the sign.
Hugh7 said,
May 5, 2008 at 6:04
Jennifer: if I lived where there was 25-50% HIV, I’d be even more careful with who and how I had sex, I’d ALWAYS use a condom, but most of all, I wouldn’t let a “needle man” inject me for any and every ailment. And it is NOT proved that circumcision can reduce the transmission rate. It certainly doesn’t protect women from getting it from men, and it’s going to make it harder for them to resist men who want unprotected sex.
tb said, “And everyone else just has half a cock. Nice. Way to make people feel good about themselves. No wonder everyone hates the anti-circumcision people.”
Not “half a cock”. Just a less-than-whole cock, with half the nerve endings. Don’t shoot the messenger, blame circumcision and the people who promote it. (Many men have found the best way to feel good about it - well, less bad about it - is to restore their foreskin, but that’s another story.)
Lawnguylander: and you’ve never had a zipper accident? If that were a serious issue, there’s velcro.
Snorghagen said,
May 5, 2008 at 6:24
In your case, creep, the idea is tempting.
tb said,
May 5, 2008 at 6:35
You have half a life. You must be some kind of dream lay, with all your pissing and moaning about inadequate “nerve endings”. Jesus. And please don’t project your neurosis onto me. I’ve been absolutely delighted with my circumcised dick for as long as I can remember.
pedestrian said,
May 5, 2008 at 6:41
I think the morale of this debate is, men feel very passionately about their penises.
pedestrian said,
May 5, 2008 at 6:50
moral, that is. yeesh.
Porlock Hussein Junior said,
May 5, 2008 at 7:17
Smut Clyde said,
“Hungry Vagina” works as well.
Only if they serve food…
I can’t help imagining the friendly cartoon personification for the advertisements.
===========
Speaking of which,
Does anyone remember the movie series that was named after Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings? Remember the thing that would appear in the sky, over Mordor, in the crystal ball, wherever, when Sauron was looking for you? Remember the shiimering evil cat’s eye thing? With the vertical slit pupil? Did it remind anyone else of Something Else up in the sky?
Now there’s your not so friendly cartoon personification.
Smut Clyde said,
May 5, 2008 at 8:24
Remember the shiimering evil cat’s eye thing? With the vertical slit pupil? Did it remind anyone else of Something Else up in the sky?
Indeed it does!
However, I don’t know whether we should pursue this line of imagery.
Smut Clyde said,
May 5, 2008 at 8:26
Even better example!
justme said,
May 5, 2008 at 10:00
I feel about, and around, my penis very passionately. Quite frequently, as well.
What…
Hugh7 said,
May 5, 2008 at 10:21
Hmm. I call a whole penis “whole” and look what comes out of the woodwork! (Never mind that it’s always open season on the foreskin and the man who has one.) The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Arky H8r of VürdPress said,
May 5, 2008 at 14:20
In the right cornaaah: Weighing in at 300 tons of self-pity [ity, ity]… Cut males who feel persecuted and unfairly treated!!
In the left cornaaah: Weighing in at 300 tons plus the weight of their foreskins [ins, ins, ins] … Uncut males who feel persecuted and unfairly treated!!
Ladies and Gentlemen [en, en, en] …
Let’s all go have a drink.
Qetesh the Qaveat Qat said,
May 5, 2008 at 14:23
Lordy lordy, now we’ve got a penile evangelist on the boards. Hugh7, why doncher just bugger off and be superior somewhere else? Most men I’ve known are pretty damn happy with their todgers (that’s one todger each, mind, I’ve not met a man with more than the statutory limit), whether they’re cut or uncut. And bleating about how superior yours is, and wailing about how “it’s always open season on the foreskin and the man who has one” won’t win you any friends.
“Open season on foreskins” my arse. Where are the red-flannel-coated hunters with the furry hats, stalking the wild foreskin? Where are the awesome weapons assembled against the foreskin? Who, really, gives a single solitary toss? A man’s genitals are his own affair. And given that most men are circumcised before they get a vote about it, there’s no real point in bleating about foreskin rights.
And these blokes find that circumcised penises are the most effective in their line of work, so who are you to cavil?
Sheesh, penis fundamentalists. So humourless.
Qetesh the Qaveat Qat said,
May 5, 2008 at 14:26
I should add that, despite being antipodean and therefore required to show the patriotic flag (or whatever one shows at such events), I’ve not seen the aforementioned puppet show. I should have done, because there’s nothing I enjoy better than a good laugh, unless it’s a good laugh at some dicks.
The Truth said,
May 5, 2008 at 14:35
As amusing as all this eighth-grade humor is, I wonder how funny you will all be when McCain becomes President despite, as Jim puts it above, being of “a party that’s at an ALL-TIME LOW in popularity going into an election”.
Identity politics catches up with you at last - how wonderful!
Righteous Bubba said,
May 5, 2008 at 14:50
As amusing as all this eighth-grade humor is
Poop! Ha ha! You pooped!!
Martin Luther Schlong Jr. said,
May 5, 2008 at 15:46
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the length of their foreskin, but by the content of their character.
The Truth said,
May 5, 2008 at 15:54
Um… what’s a vagina?
The Truth said,
May 5, 2008 at 15:57
I read on the internet that the clitoris is at the crest of the labial sheath. What does that mean?
Doodle Bean said,
May 5, 2008 at 16:04
Y’see? It’s what I was tellin’ all ya last week. Her boyfriend probably made her shave her snatch and now it’s angry!
And The Truth can’t be too up on the truth if he/she/it doesn’t know that the clitoris is at the crest of the labial sheath!
Jennifer said,
May 5, 2008 at 18:23
Just one last note, Hugh7…you claim that if you lived in a place with a 25 - 50% rate of HIV infection, that would be Africa, you’d never have sex without a condom. Which you would buy with your $.35 daily wage, one presumes.
Look, I couldn’t care less about the cut/uncut condition of your willy. I was just reporting what I had learned on a documentary. Certainly given that medical research has proven that there are cells in the foreskin whose sole purpose is to grab onto pathogens and deliver them to the lymphatic system, in an area with high rates of HIV infection and high rates of heterosexual transmission of the virus, being circumcised would be not a bad thing. Again, I couldn’t care less what the condition of your willy is, nor of the condition of the average African male’s; but if you are going to suggest that the foreskin is so sacred that it must be left intact even when it doubles the chance of HIV infection, I’m just going to have to go ahead and say you and your uncut willy are both full of shit.
pedestrian said,
May 5, 2008 at 18:38
Jennifer, I should totally let this go, and I am not saying you are wrong but… two additional points that I think are interesting re Africa and the developing world.
First, I’m not sure whether getting the nip helps or not, but it definately doesn’t make sex safe. A lot of the people that I have seen pushing circumcision, whether Evangelical loons from the Bush Administration or people associated with the Catholic Church, have been advocating it as an alternative to handing out condoms. I know you aren’t saying that, but that bias is out there, selecting studies and driving propoganda.
Second, getting a safe, clean circumcision isn’t all that cheap either. My boyfriend is from Colombia and he is cut, so I had a working assumption that guys there did the same as guys here. Then I saw a statistic (as a result of this thread, actually) that said that under 25% of South Americans are circumcised. He agreed that that is probably accurate, but only because at least 75% of the population can’t afford it. It is such a marker of social class that anyone who can afford to have it done has it done.
No offense all around, to each his own, etc.
Oregon Guy said,
May 5, 2008 at 20:18
Hi Jill!
Can I buy you a drink?
No More Bad Town « The Poor Man Institute said,
May 5, 2008 at 21:31
[…] f) immigrant vagina […]
Smut Clyde said,
May 5, 2008 at 22:17
Lordy lordy, now we’ve got a penile evangelist on the boards.
We went from “My white penis is a-scurred” to “My white penis is a-scarred”.
Open season on foreskins
You should see my trophy room.
Duros Hussein 62 said,
May 5, 2008 at 22:24
Many men have found the best way to feel good about it - well, less bad about it - is to restore their foreskin, but that’s another story.
DUDE! I don’t even want to think about that.
Righteous Bubba said,
May 5, 2008 at 22:27
Hardwood foreskins coming soon.
Duros Hussein 62 said,
May 5, 2008 at 23:04
I understand bamboo is all the rage now.
pedestrian said,
May 5, 2008 at 23:13
Around the time of the Emperor Titus, many fashionable young Jews put on fake foreskins to go to the gym, hoping to blend in with the Romans. It was a major bone of contention leading up to the First Jewish-Roman War.
Hugh7 said,
May 5, 2008 at 23:53
Jennifer:
Not everything you learn from documentaries is true. http://www.circumstitions.com/News24.html#amsterdam
“even when it doubles the chance of HIV infection”
http://www.circumstitions.com/HIV-SA.html#dilbert
Qetesh the Qaveat Qat said,
“And bleating about how superior yours is, and wailing about how “it’s always open season on the foreskin and the man who has one” won’t win you any friends.”
I haven’t actually said whether I have one or not. This is not about me.
” “Open season on foreskins” my arse. Where are the red-flannel-coated hunters with the furry hats, stalking the wild foreskin?”
They wear white coats and stethescopes.
” Where are the awesome weapons assembled against the foreskin?”
In every hospital in the US, and clinics and barbershops across the Muslim world, South Korea and the Philippines.
” Who, really, gives a single solitary toss?” These guys, for some:
http://www.sueeasy.com/litigants.php?class_action_case_detail=258
http://www.genitalintegrity.net/blouch/
“A man’s genitals are his own affair.”
I couldn’t agree more - from birth onward.
” And given that most men are circumcised before they get a vote about it, there’s no real point in bleating about foreskin rights.”
That’s not a given. It used to be the case in the English-speaking world (not including the US - do I need to add that?) and now it isn’t.
“And these blokes find that circumcised penises are the most effective in their line of work, so who are you to cavil?”
They didn’t exactly have any choice, did they?
“Sheesh, penis fundamentalists. So humourless.” Oh, I don’t know: http://www.circumstitions.com/Images/looklike.gif
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 0:16
Jesus H. Christ, I never thought I’d see the day when a serious foreskin fundamentalist showed up in these parts.
What part of “I couldn’t care less about the cut/uncut condition of your willy” did you not understand?
I merely relayed some information. I’ve never circumcised anyone; I’ve never had anyone circumcised on my orders or behalf.
In short, whatever your problem is, it’s not me.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 2:00
Jennifer, thanks for the er, tip about there still being activity “down here.”
Not to make a long issue longer, if you get my drift, but
I for one don’t give a rat’s ass what you think about the sanctity of foreskin. Seeing as how you aint got one, and it’s MY pecker we’re talking about, you really should STFU.
There’s a similar procedure you may have heard of that’s frequently performed in Africa. It’s called ‘genital mutilation.’ (Why we don’t use the same term for circumcision is beyond me, seeing as that’s what circumcision IS) Suppose I to castigate a woman for her sensitivity to the issue, regardless of any supposed benefits. You getting it yet?
A. Moyel said,
May 6, 2008 at 2:14
Shalom, gentlemen.
Hysterical Woman said,
May 6, 2008 at 2:42
I’m against infantile circumcision, but I still think Hugh7 is a smeghead.
mikey said,
May 6, 2008 at 2:52
I’ll weigh in.
I’ve got no foreskin. Can’t ever remember ever having one.
Now, sure, I’ve suffered from all sorts of savage mistreatment at the hands of my fellow human beings.
But one thing I can assure you I have NOT suffered from, not one iota (hey, and how often do you get to say “iota”?). That’s my lack of foreskin. I like my dick. It has served me well. It has done most of what I have asked it to do and has performed well, overall.
So here’s what I think. If you have a foreskin? Cool. If you don’t? You probably don’t miss it. And if you wanna be an asshole about it? Hokay, here’s what you do. Take your foreskin. Fold it sixteen ways. Got it? Hold it tight now. Bend over and shove it up your ass.
Thanks for playing. Dumb game, but thanks for playing…
mikey
Snorghagen said,
May 6, 2008 at 3:05
No question about that. As soon as the word ‘circumcision’ was mentioned upthread, I knew we’d get a visit from one of those loons.
And PeeJ? Lighten the fuck up. Christ.
justme said,
May 6, 2008 at 4:24
Well, I can see that it’s time to feel my penis passionately again.
But seriously, it really just comes down to this, doesn’t it.
Can’t we all just get along???
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 4:45
Really, PeeJ.
No need to get snippy about it.
Heh.
Snorghagen said,
May 6, 2008 at 5:02
By God, you’re right! We penis-possessing brothers should slap our hands on our glands and pledge to stand tall for a better, brighter, harder future for all!
You know, I think that when the sun comes up tomorrow it’s going to look so good out that I just might leave it out all day.
Ron Low said,
May 6, 2008 at 5:42
Wow, for someone who doesn’t care about the state of other people’s penises, Jennifer sure goes out of her way to spread misinformation so people can feel better about stealing parts of other people’s penises.
Enough with the pretending you know more than EVERY national medical association on earth. NOT ONE recommends routine circumcision. 95% of the non-Muslim world does not circumcise. Guess why? Foreskin feels REALLY good.
Only a jerk would bother to tell you this if there was nothing you could do about it, but you can help protect babies from ignorance, and if you’re a circumcised man you can undo some of the damage. Over 200,000 men are non-surgically restoring their foreskins.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 5:57
Dear foreskin fetishist: please point to any passage where I advocated for or against circumcision.
I don’t have penis or foreskin; I have no dog in this fight. I merely referred to a documentary I had seen and what was presented in said documentary. I didn’t say it was correct or incorrect. I merely relayed the information presented. And FWIW, I was in fact doing so because I found the comment by the anti-circumcision advocate that it was a “holocaust” to be bust-a-gut funny in terms of blowing things out of proportion. Ok, dude loves foreskin. I get it. But HOLOCAUST? Give me a frickin’ break.
Now, as to subsequent discussion on the topic, it was your fellow fetishist who mentioned 50% as the alleged reduction in HIV infection in circumcised men, and then went on to make the absurd claim that if he were an African man living in poverty, he’d be sure to always use a condom. Which presumably he would pluck from the exotic African condom trees they have growing all over the place over there. My response was that if in fact circumcised men show lower rates of infection via heterosexual contact, then it’s entirely reasonable that Africans who have not traditionally practiced circumcision would be having their sons circumcised. Or are you now going to argue that circumcision is the equivalent of death?
While you’re at it, you can also cut and paste where I made any claim whatsoever of knowing more than any medical association anywhere. I didn’t. I merely relayed what I had seen in a documentary a couple of years ago. If the documentary was wrong, their bad. As I said, since I don’t have a dick, I don’t really follow foreskin science all that closely.
I’ll close by saying that perhaps if you were circumcised, you wouldn’t have all that foreskin covering your ears and getting in the way of you understanding what’s being said.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:13
Yeah, snorg et. al., I shouldn’t be so sensitive about my cock. After all, it’s not so sensitive itself anymore. Not since it was mutilated in my first couple days alive. Thanks so much for that.
Dear Jennifer: since you have no dog in this fight, and since you’re “onloy relaying the information” [don’t we SN! types routinely take the reichtards to the woodshed for precisely that dishonest tactic?] STFU already.
When they come around with knives to cut your clit off, well talk.
Snorghagen said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:14
Ahhhh. Ron’s not a fetishist - he’s just a guy trying to make a buck.
But by gosh, there is something you can do about it. Ron’s here to help your damaged porker with a full array of prick-repair products, including tuggers and packers and cones and canisters, all available at prices that won’t shrivel your pole.
Just when I thought that this aging thread couldn’t get any weirder…
Hugh7 said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:20
So let’s see…
I’m a “smeghead” “loon” “evangelist” but a comment like -
“Did ya know there’s a type of cancer that leaves your little soldier looking like Lorena Bobbitt went at you with nail clippers and a blow torch? It’s true! It’s caused by prolonged (hur) contact with a caustic agent, to whit: schmegma. That’s right, your own body creates a substance that will eat your own personal penis RIGHT OFF and a foreskin is perfect for holding your toxic wastes nice and close.”
- is NOT loony or evangelical (or, hmm, keratin-headed)?
Jennifer: “…snippy…” http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6584757516627632617&hl=en
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:24
PeeJ - Oh, give me a fucking break. Cutting off a foreskin and cutting off a clit are not the same thing. Cutting off a dick would be the equivalent of cutting off a clit. They’re both erectile tissue. Given that circumcised men can and do achieve orgasm on a regular basis, there’s no equivalence between circumcision and clitorectomy, other than each typically being practiced on children too young to make the decision for themselves. Similarity ends there.
If someone whacked your willy when you were a mere babe and you wish now that they hadn’t, you have my sympathy. But I wasn’t holding the knife or issuing the order, so you can climb down off the high horse now.
Snorghagen said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:28
You’re welcome.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:39
Oh *I* didn’t ___________, not personally anyway. So who cares?
When did *I* myself advocate ____________? So you have no reason to compalin.
*I* didn’t slide the noose around anyone’s neck so *I* don’t want to hear about the evils of lynching and in fact *I*’ll call you a whiner and a shithead for making an issue of it.
I know people who have (extraordinary it is said) orgasms with zero penile stimulation. So that means that they have no cause or reason to complain that they genital equipment was mutilated when they were tiny babies solely because the alleged SkyGod demanded it back in the day.
Yeah, sure. When you demonstrate the least bit of understanding I’ll stop calling you a insensitive, egocentrist cunt.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:41
Yeah, and when you learn how to make a reasonable argument based on what was actually said rather than what you in your umbrage would like to pretend was said, I’ll stop calling you a retarded dickhead.
pedestrian said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:45
if you’re a circumcised man you can undo some of the damage. Over 200,000 men are non-surgically restoring their foreskins.
What if I told you that you could be one of those lucky for the new low price of not five, not four, but only three easy payments of $29.95? Let’s see what some real-life doctors have to say about our product!
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:54
but it’s a holocaust of FORESKINS rather than PEOPLE you twit!
But I wasn’t holding the knife or issuing the order
I don’t have penis or foreskin; I have no dog in this fight. I merely referred to a documentary
it was your fellow fetishist
I’ve never circumcised anyone; I’ve never had anyone circumcised on my orders or behalf. In short, whatever your problem is, it’s not me.
I’m just going to have to go ahead and say you and your uncut willy are both full of shit.
Aren’t you running out of “arguments” cribbed from Michael Medved yet?
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:58
So you don’t see the absurdity of economically secure men in the USA where HIV is not a literal epidemic likening circumcision of Africans to a “holocaust” rather than, you know, the actual fucking disease that’s killing millions of them?
Sorry, retarded dickhead still applies.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 6:59
On further reflection, I realize I have to point out that foreskins don’t exist without people. Your depth of understanding and empathy is remarkable. A holocoaust of foreskins indeed.
Perhaps, Jennifer, you should get one of those columns at townhall. The way you can channel Lurita Doan crossed with Ann Althouse is nothing short of remarkable.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:02
And maybe you can get one as well, and channel all those idiots who ignore the million Iraqis killed because we painted a few schools and took out Saddam Hussein.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:07
HIV is not an epidemic in the US?
This is somehow limited to “economically secure men?”
Trying to redirect attention away from the abomination of ritual genital mutilation to the admittedly larger abomination of our HIV policies and stances is at best dishonest.
You believe everything you read child? So there’s this one report which you once saw or read about or something and it’s definitive but the people who have been maimed - all of us poor bastards having been maimed long before HIV was ever heard of - shoud just stop whining because you might have heard some information thast could possibly justify, in some sense if you squint, said mutilation.
As I said, that’s ripe for TownHall. It’s shallow, self-interested self-serving claptrap.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:09
That’s it - keep trying to change the subject. You;ll fit right in over there at America’sd Shittiest Website. Hey, you can probably jigger up a gig at NR if you keep it up.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:14
Jesus Christ, you are full of yourself, aren’t you?
No, motherfucker, HIV is NOT an epidemic in the US. What’s the infection rate here? 1%? 5%? It’s not a goddamned 25 - 50%, depending on what area of Africa you’re talking about. And yet here you still are, trying to equate the loss of foreskin with the loss of fucking LIFE, which as I clearly stated was the entire reason I referred to the documentary I had seen. And I should be ashamed of myself? Fuck you, and fuck your willful misinterpretations. And if I were you, I wouldn’t be complaining about a loss of sensitivity, since you’ve obviously got the sensitivity dialed WAY up to the point where you can find injury where there was none.
tb said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:27
I take back what I said about anti-circumcision activism being a “movement of assholes”.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:34
HIV is an epidemic in the US. As bad as Africa? No. Epidemic none the less? Yes.
And no, YOU are trying to equate loss of foreskin with loss of life. Loss of foreskin, or genital mutilation as it’s also known, has little or nothing to do with the epidemiology of HIV. ONE “documentary” - “I had seen in a documentary a couple of years ago. If the documentary was wrong, their bad.”
You saw ONE damn program which even you don’t have the conviction to stand behind and that entitles you to have the say-so on male gential mutilation. Textbook self-righteousness. Read the above quotes - things YOU SAID. Read them for the snottiness and superiority that everyone else sees in them.
Then you try to hide behind accusing me - me! - of minimal concern for HIV. Listen, I HAVE HIV bitch. I’ve been living with it for twenty+ goddamn years. Many of my friends have died because of it. I will die of it before too very long. Millions of people in Africa and elsewhere will have died unnecessarily because of HIV and also becuase of what we do about it.
That pathetic attempt to justify your complete lack of compassion and understanding by claiming your concern for the AIDS epidemic is dis0-fucking-gusting.
You want to tghrow darts at guys who are upset about having their cocks semi-shorn, fine whatever. But don’t try that bullshit - get serious about HIV if you’re serious.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:47
Oh, fuck you. Go back to my original post. NOWHERE is there any advocacy for ANYTHING. It’s merely relating what the documentary said, and noting that asshats who refer to circumcision of men in an area with a quarter to half of all adults infected with HIV as a fucking HOLOCAUST rather than, you know, the ACTUAL Holocaust of the disease, are, in fact, fucking ASSHATS. These guys are more concerned about African boys losing their foreskins than they are of them DYING OF AIDS. Don’t you think actually fighting AIDS would be a better use of time than pronouncing that circumcision is a HOLOCAUST? It’s what my grandmother referred to as “swallowing camels and gagging on gnats.” Everything else you IMAGINE was said is a product of your fevered and obviously over-sensitive imagination. And as for your HIV, I’m sorry to hear about that, despite the fact that you’re being a totally moronic dickhead about this entire thing. One of my very best friends died of AIDS last year and I don’t wish that on anyone. But as for your assumption that you know jackshit about anything other than exactly what was said, which you’ve managed to righteously MISunderstand, twist, and tie up into a fucking balloon animal of righteous victimization, you can shove that right up your pompous ass. YOU weren’t there nursing Mark when he was dying, so don’t you fucking pretend you know anything about me or what I have or haven’t done with regard to AIDS or people living with AIDS.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 7:47
you can find injury where there was none.
You’re still shooting for that National Review job I take it.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:02
Oh, I see…I injured you by relating accurately what was on a documentary I saw? It’s as if I were holding the knife itself, it were. Just because, you know, I saw this show and told other people what was in the show. Aren’t you feeling foolish yet?
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:08
Assumption? No assumptions; I quoted you extensively.
Ooh one of my friends died of AIDS. I suppose one of your best friends is black as well?
Now lissen carefully: you were RIGHT to call out whoever about the holocaust remark. That sort of talk diminishes the importance of the bigger problem. That’s not what you’re being an idiot about.
See, all that doesn’t mean that male genital mutilation isn’t itself an issue in and of itself. You said some nasty, unkind things in addition to your “holocaust challenge” and they were uncalled for. And you kept it up. Then it was JENNIFER (that would be you, child) who refused to separate the two issues. It was JENNIFER (again, you) who kept claiming that the issue of cock clipping is somehow inextricably linked to AIDS.
One more time:
Queue E Fucking Dee.
I don’t want or need you sympathy. Seventeen years after being given a six-month prognosis nothing you or anyone with the likely exception of my devoted “husband” really means that much to me. I mention this to explain why you’re so wrong about much of the shit you’re tossing around up there.
Ricky B said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:10
Jennifer, I just have to sign in so I can find out what nasty names you will call me. You need to know those documentaries you love so much fundamentally orginate with the US medical industry which loves circumcision so much it will do anything to keep it alive. A doctor can make $80,000. a year doing nine or ten a week at about $300. a clip (ouch!). They take 10-15 minutes each for the doctor’s part. That’s gravy on top of all other medical income with no other outlay; the hospital gets about as much per clip to cover “expenses” from the doctor’s activities.
Someone said they do it in Canada and Latin America? Canada no more; Latin American never other than a few (more like 2.5% than 25% - circumcised males always believe more are circumcised because they need company) wealthy moguls trying out US “style” for their new sons. In truth no developed country other than the US does it, or if they do it is at a rate less than 1%. US has highest circumcision rate in industrialized world and highest HIV/AIDS rates in industrialized world.
Virtually NO circumcisions are done in Japan and Scandanavian countries. Those are the places with the lowest HIV/AIDS rates in the world. My goodness . . . does circumcision cause HIV/AIDS?
Nasty little “hooks” in foreskin “catch” HIV and lock it into a man? Science fiction or fairy tale . . . take your choice. That is a THEORY from one or two of the most fanatical advocates of circumcision in the world. It has NOT been proven by anyone anywhere. Researchers in Netherlands have discovered a substance under foreskins that KILLS HIV. Sorry to upset your little faith-based beliefs in spooky foreskin and benevolent prepuce whackers, but that’s the truth.
But oh, don’t forgot about the world of Islam. They make up about 20% of Earth’s population, so 20% of males are circumcised because they are Muslims. Another 5% of Earth’s males (mostly US Americans) are cut so they can look like Muslims rather than everyone else in the world. Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it?
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:18
No, asshole, I wasn’t claiming that cock-clipping was inextricably linked to AIDS. I cited a documentary, and then responded to another commenter who cited a figure of 50%. And then said, and I quote:
“If you lived in an area where 25 - 50% of the people were infected with HIV, and circumcision could lower your chances of being infected by 50%, I’d say it would probably be worthwhile.”
Please note use of the word “if”. Please also note that there’s a concession there that IF the preceding is true, circumcision would probably be worthwhile. Not “fuck all those boys and those traditions; they should all be held down and clipped.” Just an acknowledgement that IF the figure the other commenter cited (50%) was accurate, then circumcision would probably be worthwhile.
And for that, I’m a dick chopping bitch.
To which the other commenter’s brilliant response was that all these impoverished and uneducated African men should just make sure to use condoms. Yeah. They all have those in unlimited supply, along with the knowledge of how to use them and why it’s important.
As for your overweening compassion and empathy for the victims of AIDS, thanks for showing it for my friend.
And again, fuck you, your obvious lack of reading comprehension, and your willful desire to find offense where none was given.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:18
Jennifer tries to outstoopid Mary Grabar:
…I injured you by relating accurately what was on a documentary I saw? It’s as if I were holding the knife itself, it were.
Jeebus! It’s not about YOU YOU YOU though apparently that’s what you would like.
The injury was to me (and millions of others) in the act of circumcision. Jeebus again, we WERE talking about dick-whacking until you made it all about YOU YOU YOU.
Get over yourself already.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:22
RickyB - if you can read, go back up the thread and find where I advocated circumcision, then come back and post it here. Otherwise, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and you should probably stop making assumptions about what was said that make you look as foolish as PeeJ here.
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:25
Christ, what are you, 3 years old? I didn’t make jack shit about ME - YOU did that with your willful misinterpretations and projection. I suppose if I were to relate the plot of a movie I had seen, and you didn’t particularly like the storyline, I’d be guilty of whatever harm you thought it caused you to hear about it.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:32
What did you actually say?
And IF you were working from any kind of reasonable, factual, scientific, credible basis, IF there was only some way you find out whether the documentary you vaguely recalled seeing a few years ago had any merit, IF you hadn’t started calling people full of shit based on that dimly remembered “documentary” (which you then disengenuously tried to distance yourself from, blaming “mistakes” on them, not your reliance on bad or suspect “data” as any intellectually honest person would have done), IF you hadn’t called people fetishists, IF you hadn’t taken a shot at someone for saying they would be sure to use a condom, IF pigs had wings…
Good lord how desperate for attention are you?
Jennifer said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:38
Well, you know what, asshole? IF I’m not working from a reasonable factual scientific credible basis, why don’t you fucking dispute that instead of trying to make this into “you’re a horrible dick chopping bitch”? I was having a discussion with someone who didn’t offer any contradictory facts, links, evidence to what I had related that I had seen in a documentary, which was as I clearly stated the source of my information.
If you weren’t more interested in a flamewar than in correcting inaccurate information, you MIGHT have tried that approach. You start throwing around ad hominems and you will get those in return. But that’s what you wanted, isn’t it? Along with the dude who was referred to as a “fetishist” because he also obviously ignored what was clearly written and instead opted for your twisted intepretation that I was a dick-chopping goon.
So again, fuck you.
PeeJ said,
May 6, 2008 at 8:39
I didn’t make jack shit about ME
Naw, you didn’t make jack shit about you. I was so wrong. I misinterpreted all those