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	<title>Comments on: Being Mark Steyn Means Never Having To Say You&#8217;re Stupid</title>
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		<title>By: Caravelle</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-594180</link>
		<dc:creator>Caravelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justme :
&lt;i&gt;On some other blogish thing there was someone screaming about how eeeevil Soros was and that he was the #2 (or whatever) highest grossing profiteer from the sub-prime debacle. Right. It was all his fault. Seeing the train coming and getting out of the way is now a crime for these folks.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know about the subprime mess, but ever since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5554834&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this interview&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve thought there&#039;s something dodgy about Soros.

If you don&#039;t want to listen, around 11m30s he&#039;s asked about the apparent contradiction between the ruthlessness of the investment business and his philantropy, and basically his position is that he invests in financial markets where his influence is infinitesimal, so it&#039;s all right.

I find that abdication of responsibility a bit frightening (especially given the points the interviewer makes about the Southasian crisis and the British Pound and such things I don&#039;t know much about) but what I really found shocking is that the reasoning he used to absolve himself of responsibility for his actions, while valid, is &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the same reasoning used to prove there&#039;s no point in voting. Except that while that reasoning is valid for voting, there&#039;s a chance that it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; valid for Soros&#039; investing because his money and fame as an investor might give him more influence on the markets than he credits himself for.
So the question I wanted the interviewer to ask was, why on earth are you encouraging people to vote when by your own reasoning it&#039;s pointless ?

I don&#039;t know whether he&#039;s slightly self-deluded on that particular point or chooses not to think about it, or if he thinks all the good he does with his money makes it worth the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justme :<br />
<i>On some other blogish thing there was someone screaming about how eeeevil Soros was and that he was the #2 (or whatever) highest grossing profiteer from the sub-prime debacle. Right. It was all his fault. Seeing the train coming and getting out of the way is now a crime for these folks.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the subprime mess, but ever since <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5554834" rel="nofollow">this interview</a> I&#8217;ve thought there&#8217;s something dodgy about Soros.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want to listen, around 11m30s he&#8217;s asked about the apparent contradiction between the ruthlessness of the investment business and his philantropy, and basically his position is that he invests in financial markets where his influence is infinitesimal, so it&#8217;s all right.</p>
<p>I find that abdication of responsibility a bit frightening (especially given the points the interviewer makes about the Southasian crisis and the British Pound and such things I don&#8217;t know much about) but what I really found shocking is that the reasoning he used to absolve himself of responsibility for his actions, while valid, is <i>exactly</i> the same reasoning used to prove there&#8217;s no point in voting. Except that while that reasoning is valid for voting, there&#8217;s a chance that it&#8217;s <i>not</i> valid for Soros&#8217; investing because his money and fame as an investor might give him more influence on the markets than he credits himself for.<br />
So the question I wanted the interviewer to ask was, why on earth are you encouraging people to vote when by your own reasoning it&#8217;s pointless ?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether he&#8217;s slightly self-deluded on that particular point or chooses not to think about it, or if he thinks all the good he does with his money makes it worth the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Ryder</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-593191</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Ryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As pointed out - Kirby did work on Spider-Man but here&#039;s a much more interesting collaborator with Ditko on the web-headed wonder:

(from Wikipedia - source of all knowledge and not a little bs)

&lt;i&gt;Additionally, Ditko shared a Manhattan studio with noted fetish artist Eric Stanton, an art-school classmate[13] who, in a 1988 interview with Theakston, recalled that although his contribution to Spider-Man was &quot;almost nil&quot;, he and Ditko had &quot;worked on storyboards together and I added a few ideas. But the whole thing was created by Steve on his own... I think I added the business about the webs coming out of his hands&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

Heh  - &lt;i&gt;webs coming out of his hands&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As pointed out &#8211; Kirby did work on Spider-Man but here&#8217;s a much more interesting collaborator with Ditko on the web-headed wonder:</p>
<p>(from Wikipedia &#8211; source of all knowledge and not a little bs)</p>
<p><i>Additionally, Ditko shared a Manhattan studio with noted fetish artist Eric Stanton, an art-school classmate[13] who, in a 1988 interview with Theakston, recalled that although his contribution to Spider-Man was &#8220;almost nil&#8221;, he and Ditko had &#8220;worked on storyboards together and I added a few ideas. But the whole thing was created by Steve on his own&#8230; I think I added the business about the webs coming out of his hands&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>Heh  &#8211; <i>webs coming out of his hands</i></p>
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		<title>By: KingCranky</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-592338</link>
		<dc:creator>KingCranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Tancredo-&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambush_Bug&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ambush Bug&lt;/a&gt; 

Bizarro Steyn, a Steyn that makes sense.

Which rules Mark out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Tancredo-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambush_Bug" rel="nofollow">Ambush Bug</a> </p>
<p>Bizarro Steyn, a Steyn that makes sense.</p>
<p>Which rules Mark out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin J. Maroney</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-592189</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin J. Maroney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever heard the story that the initial &quot;Him&quot; story  in &lt;i&gt;Fantastic Four&lt;/i&gt; #65-66 was intended by Kirby as a parody of Objectivism, as a slap at Ditko? Apparently Stan watered it down in the dialog, which annoyed Kirby enough to start him thinking about quitting Marvel, and Ditko was still offended enough that he &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; quit Marvel. 

(Sadly, at least the latter is definitely not true--Ditko left Marvel, abruptly, eighteen months before that &lt;i&gt;FF&lt;/i&gt; story was published.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard the story that the initial &#8220;Him&#8221; story  in <i>Fantastic Four</i> #65-66 was intended by Kirby as a parody of Objectivism, as a slap at Ditko? Apparently Stan watered it down in the dialog, which annoyed Kirby enough to start him thinking about quitting Marvel, and Ditko was still offended enough that he <i>did</i> quit Marvel. </p>
<p>(Sadly, at least the latter is definitely not true&#8211;Ditko left Marvel, abruptly, eighteen months before that <i>FF</i> story was published.)</p>
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		<title>By: Batocchio</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-592101</link>
		<dc:creator>Batocchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a former comic book geek, yup, I caught the Kirby-Ditko error immediately... but I didn&#039;t know Ditko had done those other wacky comics!  And you&#039;re right, Stan Lee&#039;s great contribution to the form was adding a greater degree of realism to superheroes, not that Steyn is pro-reflection, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a former comic book geek, yup, I caught the Kirby-Ditko error immediately&#8230; but I didn&#8217;t know Ditko had done those other wacky comics!  And you&#8217;re right, Stan Lee&#8217;s great contribution to the form was adding a greater degree of realism to superheroes, not that Steyn is pro-reflection, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Millar</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591923</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Millar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to be one or the other since he&#039;s Glaswegian. I mean I&#039;m. I&#039;m Glaswegian. I AM THE REAL MARK MILLAR I AM HIM AND I AM NOT ROD HULL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to be one or the other since he&#8217;s Glaswegian. I mean I&#8217;m. I&#8217;m Glaswegian. I AM THE REAL MARK MILLAR I AM HIM AND I AM NOT ROD HULL</p>
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		<title>By: Snorghagen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591858</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorghagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; A lot of this has faded over the years …&lt;/i&gt;

How sad. A fading Steyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> A lot of this has faded over the years …</i></p>
<p>How sad. A fading Steyn.</p>
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		<title>By: lobbey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591833</link>
		<dc:creator>lobbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Shit Steyn lives in New Hampshire. While his chief patron is somewhat occupied by the prospect of jail, the Shitster still has enough favours in London and Toronto to get wingnut welfare piecework from the Telegraph, NatPo and Macleans. Alas.&lt;/i&gt;

A lot of this has faded over the years, particularly when old Conrad got nailed. If you have the courage to look at his website, most of his articles are from a while back, the only regular columns he seems to get now are McLeans (which a kooky, odd, unreadable PoS anyway) and a couple of low circulation papers in CA. A lot of other papers dropped him around about the time of his book, whent hey realised what a bigoted eliminatioist the guys was. Either that, or the realised how unreadable his columns had become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shit Steyn lives in New Hampshire. While his chief patron is somewhat occupied by the prospect of jail, the Shitster still has enough favours in London and Toronto to get wingnut welfare piecework from the Telegraph, NatPo and Macleans. Alas.</i></p>
<p>A lot of this has faded over the years, particularly when old Conrad got nailed. If you have the courage to look at his website, most of his articles are from a while back, the only regular columns he seems to get now are McLeans (which a kooky, odd, unreadable PoS anyway) and a couple of low circulation papers in CA. A lot of other papers dropped him around about the time of his book, whent hey realised what a bigoted eliminatioist the guys was. Either that, or the realised how unreadable his columns had become.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kakalios</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591702</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kakalios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Celtic is what you cited in the GEEK magazine interview - 
Not stalking - I just read it this morning so it was fresh in mind.

I must say that imagining the voting preference of the DC/Marvel universe is a fun diversion from preparing physics lectures.

If you ever have any science questions - feel free to drop me a line.

Cheers,

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Celtic is what you cited in the GEEK magazine interview &#8211;<br />
Not stalking &#8211; I just read it this morning so it was fresh in mind.</p>
<p>I must say that imagining the voting preference of the DC/Marvel universe is a fun diversion from preparing physics lectures.</p>
<p>If you ever have any science questions &#8211; feel free to drop me a line.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Millar</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Millar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rangers.

...Celtic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rangers.</p>
<p>&#8230;Celtic?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kakalios</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591687</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kakalios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Miller and Grant Morrison - what, are you guys
bored with NYCC already!  I spoke at the first one - what a fun zoo!

OK, Mr. Miller - tell me your favorite &quot;football&quot; team.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Physics Professor,

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Miller and Grant Morrison &#8211; what, are you guys<br />
bored with NYCC already!  I spoke at the first one &#8211; what a fun zoo!</p>
<p>OK, Mr. Miller &#8211; tell me your favorite &#8220;football&#8221; team.</p>
<p>Your Friendly Neighborhood Physics Professor,</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591678</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, we love us some loose rocks. Ol&#039; Gravelly showed the true colours of his frilly knickers eons ago with his campaign ads. Pure Dada in action, kiddies, what the world needs now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, we love us some loose rocks. Ol&#8217; Gravelly showed the true colours of his frilly knickers eons ago with his campaign ads. Pure Dada in action, kiddies, what the world needs now!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Millar</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591657</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Millar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, of course it bloody isn&#039;t really Grant.</description>
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		<title>By: Hoosier X</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591644</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoosier X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black Manta - Alan Keyes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black Manta &#8211; Alan Keyes</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kakalios</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kakalios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got to be kidding me! - Ultra the Multi-Alien!  
(I would have assumed that  he - along with Metamorpho - would be for Mitt Romney - the Fab Mormon of a 1001 Changes!) 

And is this THE Grant Morrison posting? - if so - I must defer to his opinion on the Brotherhood of Dada, though I think General Immortus and Vandal Savage would vote for their older brother - John McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to be kidding me! &#8211; Ultra the Multi-Alien!<br />
(I would have assumed that  he &#8211; along with Metamorpho &#8211; would be for Mitt Romney &#8211; the Fab Mormon of a 1001 Changes!) </p>
<p>And is this THE Grant Morrison posting? &#8211; if so &#8211; I must defer to his opinion on the Brotherhood of Dada, though I think General Immortus and Vandal Savage would vote for their older brother &#8211; John McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591639</link>
		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had heard that Sim had turned into a real nutter. Damned shame, I liked the first third or half or whatever of his opus that I read back in the day. It started to get rather unwieldy, though. I haven&#039;t seen it in years. I loved Gerhard&#039;s backgrounds.

I asked a friend of mine who is a serious comic freak about Sim, and got a response that basically said &quot;...we don&#039;t really talk about him.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard that Sim had turned into a real nutter. Damned shame, I liked the first third or half or whatever of his opus that I read back in the day. It started to get rather unwieldy, though. I haven&#8217;t seen it in years. I loved Gerhard&#8217;s backgrounds.</p>
<p>I asked a friend of mine who is a serious comic freak about Sim, and got a response that basically said &#8220;&#8230;we don&#8217;t really talk about him.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hoosier X</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591635</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoosier X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Doom Patrol - Dennis Kucinich&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Grant Morrison wins the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doom Patrol &#8211; Dennis Kucinich</p></blockquote>
<p>Grant Morrison wins the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannibal M</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591634</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannibal M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eclipso:  Mike Allan

Dr. Fate: Hillary

The Black Panther:  Three guesses, and the first two don&#039;t count.

The Riddler:  McCain

Ultra, the Multi-Alien:  Obama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eclipso:  Mike Allan</p>
<p>Dr. Fate: Hillary</p>
<p>The Black Panther:  Three guesses, and the first two don&#8217;t count.</p>
<p>The Riddler:  McCain</p>
<p>Ultra, the Multi-Alien:  Obama</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Morrison</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591630</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doom Patrol - Dennis Kucinich

The Brotherhood of Dada (assuming they don&#039;t run their own candidate again) - Mike Gravel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doom Patrol &#8211; Dennis Kucinich</p>
<p>The Brotherhood of Dada (assuming they don&#8217;t run their own candidate again) &#8211; Mike Gravel</p>
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		<title>By: Master Mahan</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9322.html#comment-591626</link>
		<dc:creator>Master Mahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how Lee and Kirby&#039;s Iron Man fits into Steyn&#039;s neat pigeonholing. How does a superheroic, commie-busting CEO and Vietnam War POW work as liberal propaganda? Was Marvel saying John McCain should have escaped from the Vietcong by building an awesome suit of powered armor?

Really, haven&#039;t we all learned a determined person can see bias anywhere? Batman is a clear attack on the Second Amendment and a NAMBLA figurehead. Superman is an illegal immigrant and a member of the liberal media. He didn&#039;t even build his Fortress of Solitude in America!  Wonder Woman... okay, that&#039;s too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how Lee and Kirby&#8217;s Iron Man fits into Steyn&#8217;s neat pigeonholing. How does a superheroic, commie-busting CEO and Vietnam War POW work as liberal propaganda? Was Marvel saying John McCain should have escaped from the Vietcong by building an awesome suit of powered armor?</p>
<p>Really, haven&#8217;t we all learned a determined person can see bias anywhere? Batman is a clear attack on the Second Amendment and a NAMBLA figurehead. Superman is an illegal immigrant and a member of the liberal media. He didn&#8217;t even build his Fortress of Solitude in America!  Wonder Woman&#8230; okay, that&#8217;s too easy.</p>
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