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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I vigorously disagree.
McEwan wrote: “Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn’t have been so quick to stomp the shit out of her, or slay the golden calf for him” and all I can say is “who is this we you are talking about?” 
This really comes down to a completely false narrative that has been accepted lock, stock and barrel by Clinton’s supporters: people who support Obama (“Obamamaniacs” anyone? – his supporters come complete with a taunting school-yard level nickname) are mindless robots following an empty suit leaving behind them a stream of subtle and overt sexism, whilst Clinton supporters are head-headed realists merely working to ensure a bright future for us all. And to that I call bullshit.
If a left wing blog is going to catalog every instance of sexism used against Clinton, is it asking to much, in the name of liberalism and all, that they do the same for racist undertones in the coverage of Obama? You know, apparently inconsequential statements like Bill Clinton comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson. That’s not dog-whistle politics; that’s screaming from the rooftop politics.
I mean, this is a blog which printed a “Guest Blogger” arguing, seriously – not tongue-in-cheek, not exaggerating to make a point, but quite seriously – that Obama saying in a health care speech that if we could reduce obesity levels to what they were in 1970 costs could be cut meant he was calling for concentration camps and the “disappearing” of the obese among us. Be honest: if Jonah Goldberg had written one of his “parodies” and said the exact same thing we’d all roll our eyes and say “what a jackass.” What happened at Shakesville? The comments ran overwhelmingly in favor of the piece, and many of the regular contributors chimed in to defend it. Obama is in favor of “disappearing” the obese. Forget for a second how obscene it was to co-opt that word – ask the families of those “disappeared” in Guatemala or El Salvador how they feel about that – isn’t that a childish argument? If one of my kids had said something like that at the age of 6 I would have delivered a lecture. This was an adult, on a blog which routinely criticizes the press for unfair coverage of Sen. Clinton. 
And yet, when such lies and distortions are your default position that really isn’t over the top. If pointing out there may be some costs associated with obesity equals a demand for an Auschwitz for the overweight you have reduced complex problems to a level of inanity that makes meaningful discussion impossible. 
And that makes the cataloging of every example of sexism leveled at one candidate while claiming the candidate who is African-American, attended a madrasa!!!! and has a Muslim-sounding name is getting a free ride sound perfectly reasonable. McEwan’s argument only holds water if you believe sexism is a problem in this country but racism is all but gone. As one who believes sexism and racism remain huge problems to this day I’ll pass on signing up for her absolution tour. 
And before the flame war begins, I want to make one thing perfectly clear; not for one second do I deny sexism in America or in the coverage of Sen. Clinton. It exists, it is real, it is wrong, and it needs to be stomped out.
Nor for one second am I accusing Melissa McEwan or any of the writers at Shakesville of racism. I am saying they are so attuned to sexism they see it immediately in a way they simply fail to see the racism Obama routinely deals with.
It’s possible the real problem is age. At 50 I’m old enough to recall walking through Riverview Park in Chicago and seeing the “Dunk-A-Darkie” booth. Racism is every bit as ugly and damaging as sexism but in recent years it really isn’t at the top of the Democratic Party’s agenda. To claim a black man – named Obama – is getting a free ride shows more ignorance and tone deafness to racism than the average pro-Obama blog ever exhibits towards sexism. 
“Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn’t have been so quick to stomp the shit out of her…”
We weren’t. Next time don’t presume to speak for me or 99% of the Obama supporters who back him for reasons having nothing to do with sexism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I vigorously disagree.<br />
McEwan wrote: “Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn’t have been so quick to stomp the shit out of her, or slay the golden calf for him” and all I can say is “who is this we you are talking about?”<br />
This really comes down to a completely false narrative that has been accepted lock, stock and barrel by Clinton’s supporters: people who support Obama (“Obamamaniacs” anyone? – his supporters come complete with a taunting school-yard level nickname) are mindless robots following an empty suit leaving behind them a stream of subtle and overt sexism, whilst Clinton supporters are head-headed realists merely working to ensure a bright future for us all. And to that I call bullshit.<br />
If a left wing blog is going to catalog every instance of sexism used against Clinton, is it asking to much, in the name of liberalism and all, that they do the same for racist undertones in the coverage of Obama? You know, apparently inconsequential statements like Bill Clinton comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson. That’s not dog-whistle politics; that’s screaming from the rooftop politics.<br />
I mean, this is a blog which printed a “Guest Blogger” arguing, seriously – not tongue-in-cheek, not exaggerating to make a point, but quite seriously – that Obama saying in a health care speech that if we could reduce obesity levels to what they were in 1970 costs could be cut meant he was calling for concentration camps and the “disappearing” of the obese among us. Be honest: if Jonah Goldberg had written one of his “parodies” and said the exact same thing we’d all roll our eyes and say “what a jackass.” What happened at Shakesville? The comments ran overwhelmingly in favor of the piece, and many of the regular contributors chimed in to defend it. Obama is in favor of “disappearing” the obese. Forget for a second how obscene it was to co-opt that word – ask the families of those “disappeared” in Guatemala or El Salvador how they feel about that – isn’t that a childish argument? If one of my kids had said something like that at the age of 6 I would have delivered a lecture. This was an adult, on a blog which routinely criticizes the press for unfair coverage of Sen. Clinton.<br />
And yet, when such lies and distortions are your default position that really isn’t over the top. If pointing out there may be some costs associated with obesity equals a demand for an Auschwitz for the overweight you have reduced complex problems to a level of inanity that makes meaningful discussion impossible.<br />
And that makes the cataloging of every example of sexism leveled at one candidate while claiming the candidate who is African-American, attended a madrasa!!!! and has a Muslim-sounding name is getting a free ride sound perfectly reasonable. McEwan’s argument only holds water if you believe sexism is a problem in this country but racism is all but gone. As one who believes sexism and racism remain huge problems to this day I’ll pass on signing up for her absolution tour.<br />
And before the flame war begins, I want to make one thing perfectly clear; not for one second do I deny sexism in America or in the coverage of Sen. Clinton. It exists, it is real, it is wrong, and it needs to be stomped out.<br />
Nor for one second am I accusing Melissa McEwan or any of the writers at Shakesville of racism. I am saying they are so attuned to sexism they see it immediately in a way they simply fail to see the racism Obama routinely deals with.<br />
It’s possible the real problem is age. At 50 I’m old enough to recall walking through Riverview Park in Chicago and seeing the “Dunk-A-Darkie” booth. Racism is every bit as ugly and damaging as sexism but in recent years it really isn’t at the top of the Democratic Party’s agenda. To claim a black man – named Obama – is getting a free ride shows more ignorance and tone deafness to racism than the average pro-Obama blog ever exhibits towards sexism.<br />
“Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn’t have been so quick to stomp the shit out of her…”<br />
We weren’t. Next time don’t presume to speak for me or 99% of the Obama supporters who back him for reasons having nothing to do with sexism.</p>
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		<title>By: alec</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590572</link>
		<dc:creator>alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crissa: the sun shines on a dog&#039;s ass every once in a while, as they say in the Heartland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crissa: the sun shines on a dog&#8217;s ass every once in a while, as they say in the Heartland.</p>
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		<title>By: Crissa</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590533</link>
		<dc:creator>Crissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see Megan McArdle&#039;s post today where she not only makes sense, she makes a feminist argument &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t spell anything wrong.

@-@

A moment of clarity reminding me she&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;totally&lt;/i&gt; nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see Megan McArdle&#8217;s post today where she not only makes sense, she makes a feminist argument <i>and</i> doesn&#8217;t spell anything wrong.</p>
<p>@-@</p>
<p>A moment of clarity reminding me she&#8217;s not <i>totally</i> nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590496</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m mostly sad that the satirists here are missing the golden opportunity in the recent Clinton campaign antics.  If you step away from the primary to and fro, it&#039;s incredibly funny to see a presidential candidate pretend that she&#039;s cleaning her guns while praying to Jesus and doing shots in the duck blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m mostly sad that the satirists here are missing the golden opportunity in the recent Clinton campaign antics.  If you step away from the primary to and fro, it&#8217;s incredibly funny to see a presidential candidate pretend that she&#8217;s cleaning her guns while praying to Jesus and doing shots in the duck blind.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590487</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own feelings about this primary are almost exactly the same as those in the original post. The only thing I would add is this: I&#039;m not voting for anybody, just like most elections I vote in. I&#039;m voting against, and this year the guy I&#039;m voting against isn&#039;t even on the ballot. 

This puts Senator Clinton in an impossible situation with people like me-- two impossible situations, actually. First, as outraged as I an about mysogenistic attacks on her in the press, I&#039;ve got no reason to think they won&#039;t be worse in the general election. And second, if she tries negative campaigning, I get outraged since I&#039;m more interested in one of them winning in November than in a particular one being nominated. (which is why I get outraged when he is critical of her, too).  I don&#039;t think that by the standards of an election she has been unduly negative, but any criticism of a Dem hurts our chances of beating Bush, and that I&#039;d something I can&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own feelings about this primary are almost exactly the same as those in the original post. The only thing I would add is this: I&#8217;m not voting for anybody, just like most elections I vote in. I&#8217;m voting against, and this year the guy I&#8217;m voting against isn&#8217;t even on the ballot. </p>
<p>This puts Senator Clinton in an impossible situation with people like me&#8211; two impossible situations, actually. First, as outraged as I an about mysogenistic attacks on her in the press, I&#8217;ve got no reason to think they won&#8217;t be worse in the general election. And second, if she tries negative campaigning, I get outraged since I&#8217;m more interested in one of them winning in November than in a particular one being nominated. (which is why I get outraged when he is critical of her, too).  I don&#8217;t think that by the standards of an election she has been unduly negative, but any criticism of a Dem hurts our chances of beating Bush, and that I&#8217;d something I can&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: (Lex) It's All In My Head (Azagthoth)</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590472</link>
		<dc:creator>(Lex) It's All In My Head (Azagthoth)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cut &amp; paste people!! It&#039;s the only way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cut &amp; paste people!! It&#8217;s the only way!</p>
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		<title>By: Doctorb Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctorb Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My method (and I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s terribly clever or anything) is to select and copy the comment I&#039;ve written, reload the page, and paste it back into the box before the page times out.  What I think is happening is that a new comment  (posted in between the time I load the page and the time I post) interferes with the posting, but I&#039;m not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My method (and I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s terribly clever or anything) is to select and copy the comment I&#8217;ve written, reload the page, and paste it back into the box before the page times out.  What I think is happening is that a new comment  (posted in between the time I load the page and the time I post) interferes with the posting, but I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
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		<title>By: kindness</title>
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		<dc:creator>kindness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordpress.....

wordpress is the dingo that ate my baby!!!!</description>
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<p>wordpress is the dingo that ate my baby!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Retief</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590438</link>
		<dc:creator>Retief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m going to call out both campaigns when I see them engaging in dumb bullshit that hurts the party’s chances in November &lt;/i&gt;  

Sure, call out both campaigns.  But one of these campaigns leads in delegates and has a clear path to being the nominee even if he never wins another primary outright.  The other&#039;s only chance of winning is to convince enough superdelegates that her opponent has been irreperable damaged for the general.  So, yeah call them both out but understand that reinforcing righty attacks on a fellow democrat is the only hope one of these campaigns has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m going to call out both campaigns when I see them engaging in dumb bullshit that hurts the party’s chances in November </i>  </p>
<p>Sure, call out both campaigns.  But one of these campaigns leads in delegates and has a clear path to being the nominee even if he never wins another primary outright.  The other&#8217;s only chance of winning is to convince enough superdelegates that her opponent has been irreperable damaged for the general.  So, yeah call them both out but understand that reinforcing righty attacks on a fellow democrat is the only hope one of these campaigns has.</p>
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		<title>By: kindness</title>
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		<dc:creator>kindness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...the MSM newspersons &amp; talking heads perpetuating insignificant bullshit and calling it news I can understand.  They are just corporate puppets (whores), that&#039;s what they get paychecks for.

What has really pissed me off is the people in the blog-sphere who I had previously viewed as progressive and reasonable.  I can&#039;t understand that in bleating, kvetching and whining about the slights of the &quot;other&quot; Democratic candidate and their supporters they don&#039;t see they are doing exactly what the MSM &amp; dittohead crowd is doing.  Namely, perpetuating the right wing framing of the Democratic candidates by blathering bullshit in the guise of important policy positions.  Both camps have these people on board.

I support Obama but I will happily vote for Hillary if she wins because the prospect of a 3rd bush43 term makes me physically ill. Well...really I can also say that because Hillary doesn&#039;t have a chance in hell of winning at this point.

There&#039;s only one group out there that I despise even more than anyone I mentioned so far.  There&#039;s only on bunch that deserves every bit of ire, spite and abuse and that&#039;s the Nader people.  What?  Did you idiots sleep through what Ralph brought us in the 2000 and 2004 election?  Jeez you are morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;the MSM newspersons &amp; talking heads perpetuating insignificant bullshit and calling it news I can understand.  They are just corporate puppets (whores), that&#8217;s what they get paychecks for.</p>
<p>What has really pissed me off is the people in the blog-sphere who I had previously viewed as progressive and reasonable.  I can&#8217;t understand that in bleating, kvetching and whining about the slights of the &#8220;other&#8221; Democratic candidate and their supporters they don&#8217;t see they are doing exactly what the MSM &amp; dittohead crowd is doing.  Namely, perpetuating the right wing framing of the Democratic candidates by blathering bullshit in the guise of important policy positions.  Both camps have these people on board.</p>
<p>I support Obama but I will happily vote for Hillary if she wins because the prospect of a 3rd bush43 term makes me physically ill. Well&#8230;really I can also say that because Hillary doesn&#8217;t have a chance in hell of winning at this point.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s only one group out there that I despise even more than anyone I mentioned so far.  There&#8217;s only on bunch that deserves every bit of ire, spite and abuse and that&#8217;s the Nader people.  What?  Did you idiots sleep through what Ralph brought us in the 2000 and 2004 election?  Jeez you are morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Welp, I’m still standing by the first reason. The second reason is obviously in complete tatters and I’m a moron for not seeing it coming.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ll have to check the numbers, but Obama&#039;s favorables/unfavorables haven&#039;t really gone down...have they? Apparently, Clinton&#039;s have nose dived amongst Democrats (still held in esteem but no where near what she was before this began). But, Obama is still pretty well liked even after Wright and bitter gate and all that bullshit. I don&#039;t know if that will continue. And we can sure as hell expect the media/McCain man love to escalate to Obama&#039;s detriment, but I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s the case that Obama has been that severely hurt by the media as of yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Welp, I’m still standing by the first reason. The second reason is obviously in complete tatters and I’m a moron for not seeing it coming.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to check the numbers, but Obama&#8217;s favorables/unfavorables haven&#8217;t really gone down&#8230;have they? Apparently, Clinton&#8217;s have nose dived amongst Democrats (still held in esteem but no where near what she was before this began). But, Obama is still pretty well liked even after Wright and bitter gate and all that bullshit. I don&#8217;t know if that will continue. And we can sure as hell expect the media/McCain man love to escalate to Obama&#8217;s detriment, but I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s the case that Obama has been that severely hurt by the media as of yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Incontinentia Buttocks</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590419</link>
		<dc:creator>Incontinentia Buttocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree, Andy Axel, that the Democratic Party&#039;s nomination process is crazy. But it&#039;s always been, as are the nomination of process of every other party (and I include my own). The only really sensible way to nominate a presidential candidate is with a closed, national primary decided by some system of single-transferable voting.

However, the unfairness and complexity of the system is not what threatens to tear the party apart (though I honestly think that fears of the party being torn apart are greatly exaggerate).  To the extent anything threatens to tear the party apart it&#039;s intraparty wedge issue politics, trying to overturn the rules in the middle of the game, and putting forward arguments that the will of Democratic-primary voters and caucuses ought potentially to be disrespected (though to be fair, this last maneuver is exactly what the superdelegates were designed to do).  And those are all strategies being pursued by one, and only one, campaign.  I don&#039;t think any of them will bear fruit, however, which is why I think the concerns voiced by Melissa about the Democrats&#039; weakening themselves in this campaign are largely misplaced. 

The Democratic presidential candidates this year were never as strong as Democratic boosters suggested, and the Republicans&#039; situation was never quite as dire as many said.  An honest assessment of how November looks today isn&#039;t all that different from an honest assessment of how November looked six months ago: the Democrats ought to do very well, but nothing is a sure thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree, Andy Axel, that the Democratic Party&#8217;s nomination process is crazy. But it&#8217;s always been, as are the nomination of process of every other party (and I include my own). The only really sensible way to nominate a presidential candidate is with a closed, national primary decided by some system of single-transferable voting.</p>
<p>However, the unfairness and complexity of the system is not what threatens to tear the party apart (though I honestly think that fears of the party being torn apart are greatly exaggerate).  To the extent anything threatens to tear the party apart it&#8217;s intraparty wedge issue politics, trying to overturn the rules in the middle of the game, and putting forward arguments that the will of Democratic-primary voters and caucuses ought potentially to be disrespected (though to be fair, this last maneuver is exactly what the superdelegates were designed to do).  And those are all strategies being pursued by one, and only one, campaign.  I don&#8217;t think any of them will bear fruit, however, which is why I think the concerns voiced by Melissa about the Democrats&#8217; weakening themselves in this campaign are largely misplaced. </p>
<p>The Democratic presidential candidates this year were never as strong as Democratic boosters suggested, and the Republicans&#8217; situation was never quite as dire as many said.  An honest assessment of how November looks today isn&#8217;t all that different from an honest assessment of how November looked six months ago: the Democrats ought to do very well, but nothing is a sure thing.</p>
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		<title>By: slippy hussein toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>slippy hussein toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DocAmazing</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocAmazing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misogynistic attacks are not excusable.

That said, Hillary&#039;s a bigger disater than Barack.  His record is questionable; hers is terrible.

No sexism required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misogynistic attacks are not excusable.</p>
<p>That said, Hillary&#8217;s a bigger disater than Barack.  His record is questionable; hers is terrible.</p>
<p>No sexism required.</p>
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		<title>By: MrWonderful</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrWonderful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furious sez--

&quot;but in the end the American people are smarter than they are given credit for by the media and, yes, by us&quot;

Isn&#039;t it pretty to think so.  I would have agreed, however dutifully, until 2004.   The fact that Chimpy got re-elected (what&#039;s the opposite of &quot;on the merits&quot;?  despite the demerits), Kerry aside, left/leaves me cynical.

That said, I can agree with D. Aristophanes, that it&#039;s just too soon to evaluate and then despair.  Whatever non-rational elements come into play when the public picks a Prez make it possible for everyone to forget all this current broohaha (&quot;Broohaha?  Ha ha ha...&quot;) when the time comes and the World Series has just ended.  For better or, yes, for worse, but still.

Now I&#039;m going to Copy this for possible Pasting if WP pulls a fast one.

(Which it just did.  Again.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furious sez&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;but in the end the American people are smarter than they are given credit for by the media and, yes, by us&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it pretty to think so.  I would have agreed, however dutifully, until 2004.   The fact that Chimpy got re-elected (what&#8217;s the opposite of &#8220;on the merits&#8221;?  despite the demerits), Kerry aside, left/leaves me cynical.</p>
<p>That said, I can agree with D. Aristophanes, that it&#8217;s just too soon to evaluate and then despair.  Whatever non-rational elements come into play when the public picks a Prez make it possible for everyone to forget all this current broohaha (&#8220;Broohaha?  Ha ha ha&#8230;&#8221;) when the time comes and the World Series has just ended.  For better or, yes, for worse, but still.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m going to Copy this for possible Pasting if WP pulls a fast one.</p>
<p>(Which it just did.  Again.)</p>
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		<title>By: (Lex) It's All In My Head (Azagthoth)</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590368</link>
		<dc:creator>(Lex) It's All In My Head (Azagthoth)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it rotten of me to feel a certain sense of joy (and a sort of electorial middle finger at those bitter people Obama spoke of) that someone who isn&#039;t white might possibly become President? Other than Alan Keyes, that is? I don&#039;t want to seem racist or anything, but the Gary Rupperts out there who think there&#039;s no problem whatsoever with an unbroken reign of white men in the White House &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; a problem for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it rotten of me to feel a certain sense of joy (and a sort of electorial middle finger at those bitter people Obama spoke of) that someone who isn&#8217;t white might possibly become President? Other than Alan Keyes, that is? I don&#8217;t want to seem racist or anything, but the Gary Rupperts out there who think there&#8217;s no problem whatsoever with an unbroken reign of white men in the White House <i>are</i> a problem for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Axel</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590362</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And to the extent that the Democratic Party is in danger of being torn apart, the responsibility lies firmly with the Clinton campaign. &lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s always some damn nominee threatening to tear the party apart, isn&#039;t there?  Howard Dean, anyone?

&lt;i&gt;Saying that the length of the nominating process is itself the problem is obfuscatory at best.&lt;/i&gt;

Owing to the pre-primary scramble for states to assert their au-thor-i-tah and establish a new pecking order, the length of the primary certainly has pointed out the problem with the Democratic nominating process, what with its differing standards for primary and/or caucus, its Byzantine ruleset for determining the number of nominees awarded per state, with its super-delegation, and with the incumbency within the DNC itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And to the extent that the Democratic Party is in danger of being torn apart, the responsibility lies firmly with the Clinton campaign. </i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s always some damn nominee threatening to tear the party apart, isn&#8217;t there?  Howard Dean, anyone?</p>
<p><i>Saying that the length of the nominating process is itself the problem is obfuscatory at best.</i></p>
<p>Owing to the pre-primary scramble for states to assert their au-thor-i-tah and establish a new pecking order, the length of the primary certainly has pointed out the problem with the Democratic nominating process, what with its differing standards for primary and/or caucus, its Byzantine ruleset for determining the number of nominees awarded per state, with its super-delegation, and with the incumbency within the DNC itself.</p>
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		<title>By: GoatBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590358</link>
		<dc:creator>GoatBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Meanwhile, I think it’s ridiculous to say that a Democrat should be defended if they’re actually being stupid. The party doesn’t give us enough to deserve our undying loyalty.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Potentially FOUR Supreme Court seats in the next term isn&#039;t enough for you?

Also, fuck WordPress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Meanwhile, I think it’s ridiculous to say that a Democrat should be defended if they’re actually being stupid. The party doesn’t give us enough to deserve our undying loyalty.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Potentially FOUR Supreme Court seats in the next term isn&#8217;t enough for you?</p>
<p>Also, fuck WordPress</p>
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		<title>By: Doodle Bean</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9290.html#comment-590349</link>
		<dc:creator>Doodle Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

I have your solution:  simply post a planning thead for the Boston-area Sadly-thon using the helpful text I&#039;ve provided, wait for me to get the event arranged, then attend to vent/get advice from all your fans!

Easy as &lt;a href=&quot;http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/friday-pie-blogging-two-plus-two-is.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pie&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>I have your solution:  simply post a planning thead for the Boston-area Sadly-thon using the helpful text I&#8217;ve provided, wait for me to get the event arranged, then attend to vent/get advice from all your fans!</p>
<p>Easy as <a href="http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/friday-pie-blogging-two-plus-two-is.html" rel="nofollow">pie</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I also think (and hope) that D. Aristophanes is right.  There is very little evidence that all this bullshit about &#039;elitism&quot; is having an effect.  BTW, My morning paper greeted me with Jonah Goldberg&#039;s column about him being the Yuppie candidate, which I didn&#039;t read all the way through.  He&#039;s apparently too cowardly to call Barack and Michelle Buppies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I also think (and hope) that D. Aristophanes is right.  There is very little evidence that all this bullshit about &#8216;elitism&#8221; is having an effect.  BTW, My morning paper greeted me with Jonah Goldberg&#8217;s column about him being the Yuppie candidate, which I didn&#8217;t read all the way through.  He&#8217;s apparently too cowardly to call Barack and Michelle Buppies.</p>
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