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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: Patkin</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-576716</link>
		<dc:creator>Patkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Be somebody, or be somebody&#039;s fool!&quot;

Wait, that&#039;s the wrong Black Messiah too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Be somebody, or be somebody&#8217;s fool!&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait, that&#8217;s the wrong Black Messiah too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo's Bike Shop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo's Bike Shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We’re all somebody, oudemia! &lt;/i&gt;

&quot;I Am--Somebody!&quot;

Oops, wrong Black Messiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We’re all somebody, oudemia! </i></p>
<p>&#8220;I Am&#8211;Somebody!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oops, wrong Black Messiah.</p>
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		<title>By: Patkin</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575862</link>
		<dc:creator>Patkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, still gonna go with &quot;wah.&quot; Pretty much encapsulates your whole complaint in a short, succinct word. 

Christ, you&#039;re supporting CLINTON. Shouldn&#039;t you have fucking thicker skin? Isn&#039;t that the whole reason to support Clinton, &quot;she&#039;s dealt with this shit before!&quot; But no, treating Clinton for who she is, a center-right moderate Democrat, gets the tears welling up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, still gonna go with &#8220;wah.&#8221; Pretty much encapsulates your whole complaint in a short, succinct word. </p>
<p>Christ, you&#8217;re supporting CLINTON. Shouldn&#8217;t you have fucking thicker skin? Isn&#8217;t that the whole reason to support Clinton, &#8220;she&#8217;s dealt with this shit before!&#8221; But no, treating Clinton for who she is, a center-right moderate Democrat, gets the tears welling up.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575852</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Patkin: Irrational Anti-Clinton Ass-hattery cannot be found on the interwebs. 

Ok, so that&#039;s actually Patkin Longer but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Patkin: Irrational Anti-Clinton Ass-hattery cannot be found on the interwebs. </p>
<p>Ok, so that&#8217;s actually Patkin Longer but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patkin</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575759</link>
		<dc:creator>Patkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Marco: Wah.</description>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575749</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Daily Kos: Merlin is to Wizardry as Hillary is to Grand Wizardry.</description>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575512</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Marco:  Hillary Clinton is the Jew of Liberal Fascism.</description>
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		<title>By: lawnguylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawnguylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t you do better than that, Marco?  No link, nothing, to back up your shorter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t you do better than that, Marco?  No link, nothing, to back up your shorter?</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575477</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Huffington Post: Hillary Clinton Eats Babies.</description>
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		<title>By: a different brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>a different brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sez one non-self aware Hillary supporter in the comments&lt;blockquote&gt; I stopped going to Orangetown a month ago (5.00 / 2) (#126)
by pluege on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57:35 AM EST
The Great Orange Satan&#039;s (per Atrios) roost is a lost cause - they&#039;ve made it all personal. So much so that they&#039;ve created mental barriers to all contrary notions and the still many unknowns that could result in a Clinton nomination. But they are so invested in Obamamania and &#039;my way or the highwayism&#039; over there that they are likely to work against Clinton in the general election (as they do now in their demonizing of Clinton) if she wins - they certainly won&#039;t be supporting her in any meaningful way.

The denizens of Orangeville have demonstrated infatuation with themselves and their hardened notions of Obama as the only legitimate democratic nominee, rather than the ONLY truly important result of keeping a republican out of the White House. &lt;/blockquote&gt;It&#039;s sad to see that kind of projection from a non right winger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sez one non-self aware Hillary supporter in the comments<br />
<blockquote> I stopped going to Orangetown a month ago (5.00 / 2) (#126)<br />
by pluege on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57:35 AM EST<br />
The Great Orange Satan&#8217;s (per Atrios) roost is a lost cause &#8211; they&#8217;ve made it all personal. So much so that they&#8217;ve created mental barriers to all contrary notions and the still many unknowns that could result in a Clinton nomination. But they are so invested in Obamamania and &#8216;my way or the highwayism&#8217; over there that they are likely to work against Clinton in the general election (as they do now in their demonizing of Clinton) if she wins &#8211; they certainly won&#8217;t be supporting her in any meaningful way.</p>
<p>The denizens of Orangeville have demonstrated infatuation with themselves and their hardened notions of Obama as the only legitimate democratic nominee, rather than the ONLY truly important result of keeping a republican out of the White House. </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s sad to see that kind of projection from a non right winger.</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575195</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i think the rest of the sentence &quot;i think hillary will be a fine preznit&quot; was going to be &quot;compared to john 100 years of war mclame.&quot;

i too mourn the decent of talkleft into hillary uber alles land.  jeralyn has always been a good supporter of skippy, and it tears me up i can&#039;t legitimately support her positions, or at least her tone.

it came to a head for me when the supposed obama &quot;plagiarism&quot; happened.  both jeralyn and armando were talking real smack, saing obama was finished.

i would have happily given them their opinion that it was a bad thing for obama to have done (tho i don&#039;t think i was) or that it was going to hurt him (which it didn&#039;t), i was aghast at the intensity of schedenfreude pouring out of their site.

i miss the old talkleft that prided itself on objectivity in all things.

as for taylor marsh, who also supported skippy from the beginning, all i can say it &lt;a href=&quot;http://instaputz.blogspot.com/2008/02/not-for-all-weed-in-williamsburg.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;instaputz&lt;/a&gt; calls her norma desmond.  and it works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i think the rest of the sentence &#8220;i think hillary will be a fine preznit&#8221; was going to be &#8220;compared to john 100 years of war mclame.&#8221;</p>
<p>i too mourn the decent of talkleft into hillary uber alles land.  jeralyn has always been a good supporter of skippy, and it tears me up i can&#8217;t legitimately support her positions, or at least her tone.</p>
<p>it came to a head for me when the supposed obama &#8220;plagiarism&#8221; happened.  both jeralyn and armando were talking real smack, saing obama was finished.</p>
<p>i would have happily given them their opinion that it was a bad thing for obama to have done (tho i don&#8217;t think i was) or that it was going to hurt him (which it didn&#8217;t), i was aghast at the intensity of schedenfreude pouring out of their site.</p>
<p>i miss the old talkleft that prided itself on objectivity in all things.</p>
<p>as for taylor marsh, who also supported skippy from the beginning, all i can say it <a href="http://instaputz.blogspot.com/2008/02/not-for-all-weed-in-williamsburg.html" rel="nofollow">instaputz</a> calls her norma desmond.  and it works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Patkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t. I think if she is elected, in the summer of 2010 or so a group of neocons, Iranian exiles, and oil company execs will tell her that we need to invade Iran because they have nuclear weapons ready to use against us at 45 minutes’ notice and she’ll say “sounds good to me!”&lt;/i&gt;

On the other hand, McCain *already has said that*.

So, if not Obama...

... do you want someone who it&#039;ll take another year and a half to decide to invade Iran based on our worst-case scenario of Beltway politics, or someone who is already set on it by January 24th, 2009 and is in fact running on that platform?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t. I think if she is elected, in the summer of 2010 or so a group of neocons, Iranian exiles, and oil company execs will tell her that we need to invade Iran because they have nuclear weapons ready to use against us at 45 minutes’ notice and she’ll say “sounds good to me!”</i></p>
<p>On the other hand, McCain *already has said that*.</p>
<p>So, if not Obama&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; do you want someone who it&#8217;ll take another year and a half to decide to invade Iran based on our worst-case scenario of Beltway politics, or someone who is already set on it by January 24th, 2009 and is in fact running on that platform?</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious P.A.T.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575119</link>
		<dc:creator>Notorious P.A.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Honestly, I’d be perfectly happy to vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. I think she would make a fine preznit.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t.  I think if she is elected, in the summer of 2010 or so a group of neocons, Iranian exiles, and oil company execs will tell her that we need to invade Iran because they have nuclear weapons ready to use against us at 45 minutes&#039; notice and she&#039;ll say &quot;sounds good to me!&quot;  I think electing Hillary will just mean a continuation of trash politics, like the Jeremiah Wright nonsense.  I think she is owned by health insurance corporations.  And I think if she were smart, she wouldn&#039;t be paying that slimeball Mark Penn millions of dollars to drive her campaign off a cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Honestly, I’d be perfectly happy to vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. I think she would make a fine preznit.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t.  I think if she is elected, in the summer of 2010 or so a group of neocons, Iranian exiles, and oil company execs will tell her that we need to invade Iran because they have nuclear weapons ready to use against us at 45 minutes&#8217; notice and she&#8217;ll say &#8220;sounds good to me!&#8221;  I think electing Hillary will just mean a continuation of trash politics, like the Jeremiah Wright nonsense.  I think she is owned by health insurance corporations.  And I think if she were smart, she wouldn&#8217;t be paying that slimeball Mark Penn millions of dollars to drive her campaign off a cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: mikefromtexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikefromtexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find those &#039;striking&#039; Kos posters to be in somewhat of a fog. Haven&#039;t they been paying attention? Didn&#039;t they read Crashing the Gate? What part of the 50 state plan instead of the 51% plan did they not catch? Didn&#039;t they pick up that Markos really dislikes the DLC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find those &#8216;striking&#8217; Kos posters to be in somewhat of a fog. Haven&#8217;t they been paying attention? Didn&#8217;t they read Crashing the Gate? What part of the 50 state plan instead of the 51% plan did they not catch? Didn&#8217;t they pick up that Markos really dislikes the DLC?</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575091</link>
		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk Left has turned into a more literate version of hillaryis44.org.    Jeralyn&#039;s posts on crime and justice are still mostly worth reading,  but everything else has just turned into noise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk Left has turned into a more literate version of hillaryis44.org.    Jeralyn&#8217;s posts on crime and justice are still mostly worth reading,  but everything else has just turned into noise</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlyn Sith</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575066</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlyn Sith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually read over there that Obama would lose worse in the GE than Mondale. To quote Max von Sydow in Hannah and Her Sisters, can you imagine the level of a mind that thinks Obama would lose like Mondale (and, more importantly, that Hillary would win)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually read over there that Obama would lose worse in the GE than Mondale. To quote Max von Sydow in Hannah and Her Sisters, can you imagine the level of a mind that thinks Obama would lose like Mondale (and, more importantly, that Hillary would win)?</p>
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		<title>By: HTML Mencken</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9102.html#comment-575033</link>
		<dc:creator>HTML Mencken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armando&#039;s always been an idiot. Recall his introducing of Mike Krempasky and  Tacky-Trevino to DailyKos, and his vouching for them that they were &quot;honest conservatives.&quot;

And Jeralyn still has good things to say about Glenn Reynolds&#039;s punditry -- always has.

Of *course* TL-ers are die-hard Clinton supporters. Of *course* they think everyone to their perceived left is a threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armando&#8217;s always been an idiot. Recall his introducing of Mike Krempasky and  Tacky-Trevino to DailyKos, and his vouching for them that they were &#8220;honest conservatives.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Jeralyn still has good things to say about Glenn Reynolds&#8217;s punditry &#8212; always has.</p>
<p>Of *course* TL-ers are die-hard Clinton supporters. Of *course* they think everyone to their perceived left is a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Screamin' Demon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Screamin' Demon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk Left - &lt;i&gt;The Politics of Crime&lt;/i&gt;

Sorta says it all right there. They&#039;d be perfectly happy to see Clinton steal the nomination from the rightful winner. Now that&#039;d be a crime against democracy. 

I don&#039;t know why those people don&#039;t realize that if Hillary gets the nomination through underhanded tactics, all hell&#039;s gonna break loose on the convention floor before a national audience. The party will tear in two, and there&#039;ll be no way Clinton can build a winning coalition from what&#039;ll be left over.  

I&#039;ll be there to protest it as part of &lt;a href=&quot;http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=917&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Plan Jericho.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk Left &#8211; <i>The Politics of Crime</i></p>
<p>Sorta says it all right there. They&#8217;d be perfectly happy to see Clinton steal the nomination from the rightful winner. Now that&#8217;d be a crime against democracy. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why those people don&#8217;t realize that if Hillary gets the nomination through underhanded tactics, all hell&#8217;s gonna break loose on the convention floor before a national audience. The party will tear in two, and there&#8217;ll be no way Clinton can build a winning coalition from what&#8217;ll be left over.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be there to protest it as part of <a href="http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=917" rel="nofollow">Plan Jericho.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Incontinentia Buttocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incontinentia Buttocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armando?  I had managed to put his very existence out of my mind.  I am now flooded with unpleasant memories of his abusive and delusional self-importance.  What a raging asshole he is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armando?  I had managed to put his very existence out of my mind.  I am now flooded with unpleasant memories of his abusive and delusional self-importance.  What a raging asshole he is!</p>
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		<title>By: sxwarren</title>
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		<dc:creator>sxwarren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, according to DemConWatch, including MI and FL delegates as currently pledged, AND all the Superdelegates who have endorsed, Clinton is still actually one delegate &lt;em&gt;behind&lt;/em&gt; Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, according to DemConWatch, including MI and FL delegates as currently pledged, AND all the Superdelegates who have endorsed, Clinton is still actually one delegate <em>behind</em> Obama.</p>
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