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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Got No Brains, I&#8217;m Insane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Got No Brains, I&#8217;m Insane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] where the guy who wrote All the King&#8217;s Men got that boffo line about dog puke?&#8221; to his list of questions to ask admissions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminded me of re-reading (or attempting to re-read) Plato&#039;s &quot;The Republic&quot; recently.  The naked distaste for democracy is still a little hard to take, for some reason.

Of course, the fact that I&#039;m familiar with Plato (and just about everything on his peculiar little list of Stuff Smart White Guys Need to Know) and do NOT agree with his off-putting world view would no doubt distress and confuse him.  

I&#039;ve long suspected that Prager is a put-on concocted to make people like Ben Stein look better.  If so, it&#039;s not working very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminded me of re-reading (or attempting to re-read) Plato&#8217;s &#8220;The Republic&#8221; recently.  The naked distaste for democracy is still a little hard to take, for some reason.</p>
<p>Of course, the fact that I&#8217;m familiar with Plato (and just about everything on his peculiar little list of Stuff Smart White Guys Need to Know) and do NOT agree with his off-putting world view would no doubt distress and confuse him.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long suspected that Prager is a put-on concocted to make people like Ben Stein look better.  If so, it&#8217;s not working very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreamweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreamweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; &lt;I&gt;Upright Conservative World&lt;/I&gt;

Tom Tomorrow beat you to it:
http://www.cafepress.com/tomsworld.9964027

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cafepress.com/tomsworld.9964027&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; <i>Upright Conservative World</i></p>
<p>Tom Tomorrow beat you to it:<br />
<a href="http://www.cafepress.com/tomsworld.9964027" rel="nofollow">http://www.cafepress.com/tomsworld.9964027</a></p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.cafepress.com/tomsworld.9964027" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: DAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh c’mon. You’re reading liberal blog - surely you’re familiar, then, with Deutschland Uber Alles? Or, as Haydn called it, the 2nd movement of the Emperor Quartet?&lt;/i&gt; - Jim

Ironically, that melody provides a perfect setting for the Jewish hymn, Adom Olam.  I guess Jews are the German Nationalists of liberal fascism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh c’mon. You’re reading liberal blog &#8211; surely you’re familiar, then, with Deutschland Uber Alles? Or, as Haydn called it, the 2nd movement of the Emperor Quartet?</i> &#8211; Jim</p>
<p>Ironically, that melody provides a perfect setting for the Jewish hymn, Adom Olam.  I guess Jews are the German Nationalists of liberal fascism?</p>
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		<title>By: Heretic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heretic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil Young is the Richard Wagner of liberal fascism.</description>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to believe that unless it is on You-Tube. Next you&#039;ll be telling me that the &lt;i&gt;andante&lt;/i&gt; of Symphony #94 is &quot;Twinkle Twinkle&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to believe that unless it is on You-Tube. Next you&#8217;ll be telling me that the <i>andante</i> of Symphony #94 is &#8220;Twinkle Twinkle&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I&#039;m late getting back to the party here, but:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve never heard a Haydn symphony in my life. Does that mean I have to give my degree back?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh c&#039;mon.  You&#039;re reading liberal blog - surely you&#039;re familiar, then, with &lt;i&gt;Deutschland Uber Alles&lt;/i&gt;? Or, as Haydn called it, the 2nd movement of the Emperor Quartet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I&#8217;m late getting back to the party here, but:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve never heard a Haydn symphony in my life. Does that mean I have to give my degree back?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh c&#8217;mon.  You&#8217;re reading liberal blog &#8211; surely you&#8217;re familiar, then, with <i>Deutschland Uber Alles</i>? Or, as Haydn called it, the 2nd movement of the Emperor Quartet?</p>
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		<title>By: FlipYrWhig</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlipYrWhig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have a harder time seeing Prager as an iconoclastic Roundhead than as a Royalist shill, churning out crappy pamphlets on behalf of the king and the established church.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Prager is more than a little like Jeremy Collier, author of &quot;A Short View of the Immorality and Profaneness of the English Stage&quot; (1698).  Oh noes, popular entertainment is smutty and irreligious and teaches bad lessons to impressionable youth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have a harder time seeing Prager as an iconoclastic Roundhead than as a Royalist shill, churning out crappy pamphlets on behalf of the king and the established church.</p></blockquote>
<p>Prager is more than a little like Jeremy Collier, author of &#8220;A Short View of the Immorality and Profaneness of the English Stage&#8221; (1698).  Oh noes, popular entertainment is smutty and irreligious and teaches bad lessons to impressionable youth!</p>
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		<title>By: Hoosier X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoosier X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Zinn forces events into his predetermined theory and goes from there. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I read Zinn, and I found the People&#039;s History to be pretty solid in the chapters on my field. So I&#039;m very curious about your criticisms. You got any good examples ready?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Zinn forces events into his predetermined theory and goes from there. </p></blockquote>
<p>I read Zinn, and I found the People&#8217;s History to be pretty solid in the chapters on my field. So I&#8217;m very curious about your criticisms. You got any good examples ready?</p>
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		<title>By: TomMil</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomMil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I just got back from happy hour.</description>
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		<title>By: TomMil</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomMil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally only lurk here.  Every day ---------for hours-----I know---It&#039;s sad.  Bit can I just say, I LOVE THIS BLOG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally only lurk here.  Every day &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;for hours&#8212;&#8211;I know&#8212;It&#8217;s sad.  Bit can I just say, I LOVE THIS BLOG!</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
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		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha Ha ! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha Ha ! </p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Being of the Wasabi sect, I’m already living under Shania law.&lt;/i&gt;

As described by the prophet Hamada Hamada...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Being of the Wasabi sect, I’m already living under Shania law.</i></p>
<p>As described by the prophet Hamada Hamada&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrected:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Because granting a Bachelor of Arts degree on someone who never heard of Cain and Abel and never heard a Haydn symphony is a fraud.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I dunno. We seem to have elected a President who couldn’t name the President of Pakistan.

By the way, one has to wonder about a guy complaining about illiterate college kids, who thinks degrees are granted “on” someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected:</p>
<blockquote><p>Because granting a Bachelor of Arts degree on someone who never heard of Cain and Abel and never heard a Haydn symphony is a fraud.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I dunno. We seem to have elected a President who couldn’t name the President of Pakistan.</p>
<p>By the way, one has to wonder about a guy complaining about illiterate college kids, who thinks degrees are granted “on” someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote.Because granting a Bachelor of Arts degree on someone who never heard of Cain and Abel and never heard a Haydn symphony is a fraud.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I dunno.  We seem to have elected a President who couldn&#039;t name the President of Pakistan. 

By the way, one has to wonder about a guy complaining about illiterate college kids, who thinks degrees are granted &quot;on&quot; someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;blockquote.Because granting a Bachelor of Arts degree on someone who never heard of Cain and Abel and never heard a Haydn symphony is a fraud.</p>
<p>Oh, I dunno.  We seem to have elected a President who couldn&#8217;t name the President of Pakistan. </p>
<p>By the way, one has to wonder about a guy complaining about illiterate college kids, who thinks degrees are granted &#8220;on&#8221; someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why can’t they just do their own version of Renaissance Fairs? You know, try and attract people to “Upright Conservative World” where everything is as they would like for it to have been?&lt;/i&gt;

El Cid, this made me laugh.  And then it made me sad, because unfortunately, the promoters of Upright Conservative World prefer -- &lt;b&gt;believe&lt;/b&gt; -- that they can change the &lt;i&gt;actual&lt;/i&gt; past to conform to their prejudices if only they can destroy all the records and &lt;strike&gt;kill&lt;/strike&gt; shout down all the witnesses who disagree.  Orwell described such UCW fanatics as &quot;fascists&quot;, but then, Orwell died young &amp;  broke and Jonah Goldberg is still parading his prosperity among us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why can’t they just do their own version of Renaissance Fairs? You know, try and attract people to “Upright Conservative World” where everything is as they would like for it to have been?</i></p>
<p>El Cid, this made me laugh.  And then it made me sad, because unfortunately, the promoters of Upright Conservative World prefer &#8212; <b>believe</b> &#8212; that they can change the <i>actual</i> past to conform to their prejudices if only they can destroy all the records and <strike>kill</strike> shout down all the witnesses who disagree.  Orwell described such UCW fanatics as &#8220;fascists&#8221;, but then, Orwell died young &amp;  broke and Jonah Goldberg is still parading his prosperity among us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northern Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I&#039;ve been accused of being pinko scum, but some of prager&#039;s rant makes sense. It&#039;s basically Allan Bloom warmed over. The problem is most conservatives try and make an inflexible conservatively correct curriculum to replace the neo maxists curriculum. They miss the point that the inflexibility was part of the problem, not just the content. And why harsh on Zinn, his history text is a classic. I would read other histories of America and compare and contrast, but there is no need to proscribe old Zinny like some kind of bacteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I&#8217;ve been accused of being pinko scum, but some of prager&#8217;s rant makes sense. It&#8217;s basically Allan Bloom warmed over. The problem is most conservatives try and make an inflexible conservatively correct curriculum to replace the neo maxists curriculum. They miss the point that the inflexibility was part of the problem, not just the content. And why harsh on Zinn, his history text is a classic. I would read other histories of America and compare and contrast, but there is no need to proscribe old Zinny like some kind of bacteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, I really love wingnuts shitting on Howard Zinn. You&#039;d think they&#039;d be more respectful of a WW2 veteran, if you had just come to this land - head buzzing with promises of streets paved with gold, opportunities for every rugged individual, and more support per troop than any country save North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, I really love wingnuts shitting on Howard Zinn. You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d be more respectful of a WW2 veteran, if you had just come to this land &#8211; head buzzing with promises of streets paved with gold, opportunities for every rugged individual, and more support per troop than any country save North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how important this guy, ostensibly Jewish, believes knowing about Martin Luther is.

Perhaps we should also know who, &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt;, killed Jesus - and controls the banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how important this guy, ostensibly Jewish, believes knowing about Martin Luther is.</p>
<p>Perhaps we should also know who, <i>exactly</i>, killed Jesus &#8211; and controls the banks.</p>
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		<title>By: SenderC</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being of the Wasabi sect, I&#039;m already living under Shania law.</description>
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