Feb
26

Sous Le Soleil De Gunter




Posted at 23:08 by Gavin M.
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Above: Lorne Gunter

Our instruments went awry with a Canadian pundit named Lorne Gunter yesterday, and it was a puzzlement.

But aha! because Brian D., a commenter at Deltoid, provides the following:

As an Edmonton native, I’ve met Gunter myself, and if I had to pick any more well-known personality to describe him as, I’d say “Penn Jillette on Valium”. I wouldn’t characterize him as stupid (I’d prefer “willingly misinformed”; on nonscientific social issues he’ll make arguments that appear sound until you realize his premises are garbage and he has no interest in fact-checking them or revising them), but I will say he’s horribly, horribly jaded if anyone suggests anything that might be interpreted as implying that someone would prefer to slightly infringe on his personal liberties. As a result, if global warming comes up, he’ll jump on any argument that discredits it, lest it suggest that business-as-usual is causing a problem, even if it flies in the face of basic science — and if he can criticize liberals at the same time, he’ll do it at double-speed.

Doesn’t surprise me that the National Post runs his stuff. ‘Paleoconservative’ is the best description I’ve heard of it in years.

Alas, our 2D, Venn-diagram modeling scheme is unequal to the task. Plus, meanwhile, the meretricious National Post is supposed to be running serial excerpts of you-know-what, by you-know-who. I looked, but couldn’t find one there today — although perhaps this similar story displaced it, given the greater local interest:

Ontario man falls down sewer for money, dies

In any case, the boys in the lab are working on a bold new prototype.

51 Comments »

  1. PeeJ said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:19

    So tempting to frist ….

  2. Me said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:20

    Falls down sewer for money

    That part’s about right.

    dies

    No such luck.

  3. Me said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:24

    So tempting to frist ….

    PeeJ, don’t make me pull out that giant bag of dicks.

  4. NobodySpecial said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:25

    The problem, sadly, is similar to the problem of the Laffer Curve, in that the third axis is ignored, therefore trying to fit a 3D shape into a 2D picture.

    In reality, the depth of his fecklessness covers BOTH stupidity and lying. It’s a giant sphere of Feckless, and we are but mere members of Lineworld attempting to grasp the edges of it.*

    *since the evil SadlyGods played tricks with the original.

  5. pedestrian said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:34

    Ontario man falls down sewer for money, dies

    Bwahahahahaha!
    Paramedics performed CPR on the victim, a middleaged man more than 250 pounds who became trapped head-first in a sewer outside the Kimono restaurant on Niagara Street. His head was in water about four feet down.

    Aw geez, why am I laughing? That’s terrible.

    The rescue crew’s only option was to pull him out using a tow-truck.
    Snort!

    They hooked him up, they put a safety harness on him, they got his feet out because he fell in head-first, we pulled him out nice and slow,” said Mike St. Amand, who pulled out the victim.

    Heh hee heee…hmph! Ha hah hah hahhhh…. Oh come on guys, “harness”? “head-first”? “nice and slow”?

    He was not conscious when he was pulled out and paramedics could not revive him.

    I’m going to hell.

  6. PeeJ said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:43

    Look me up when you get here, pedestrian.

  7. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:46

    Let me get this straight. Ann Coulter is paying fat Canadian guys for rough trade now?

    That’s hot.

  8. Thorlac the Fromago-fascist said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:52

    If I cock-punched some guy while holding a bag of dicks, would that make me Republican?

  9. anonymous 37 said,

    February 26, 2008 at 23:54

    but I will say he’s horribly, horribly jaded if anyone suggests anything that might be interpreted as implying that someone would prefer to slightly infringe on his personal liberties

    I don’t think that was the word Brian D. meant to use …

  10. Rugged in Montana said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:03

    This whole nonsense about global warming is just a leftist plot to increase government regulations and intrude on the personal liberties of hardworking patriotic Americans.

    The science is not conclusive, in fact many scientists are convinced that it is the sun that is warming not the earth. In the middle-ages for example it was warm enough to grow wine grapes in Scotland, something that it is too cold for today.

    There were no man made carbon emissions to cause so called “global warming” during the middle-ages. So the problem that we are being currently presented with is little more than a government plot by the left to impose its global socialist regime.

    Americans will not lay idley back like Europeans. We are tough and determined and we will fight any and all who erode our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

  11. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:09

    Wasn’t “Brokeback Mountain” filmed in Montana?

  12. Thorlac the Fromago-fascist said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:10

    …little more than a government plot by the left to impose its global socialist regime.

    Ok, now that is just hilarious. Does he think we’re Masons?

  13. SamFromUtah said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:12

    Americans will not lay idley back like Europeans. We are tough and determined and we will fight any and all who erode our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

    Except, of course, our top elected officials.

    What do emissions guidelines have to do with the Constitution and BoR, anyway?

    And who’s Idley?

  14. PeeJ said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:12

    We will, none the less, lie idly back. Idjit.

    I don’t normally feed them but I couldn’t resist.

  15. NobodySpecial said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:15

    He’d better idly lay back, if he’s a member of the Republican Party. Missionary, not doggy, remember?

  16. PeeJ said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:15

    Except, of course, our top selected officials.

    Fixed.

  17. Rugged in Montana said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:19

    Our nation was founded upon the principles of federalism and natural law.

    Any and all government regulations of property rights (which the global warming hyseria crowd seek to abolish as is their goal) and gun ownership are unconstitutional and therefore null and void.

  18. Gloria N. Excelsis-Deo said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:21

    Perhaps we’re supposed to lay back with the Idley Brotherd?

  19. Righteous Bubba said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:24

    “Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die.”
    -Mel Brooks

    For money!!!

  20. Thorlac the Fromago-fascist said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:31

    Ah, I see. Rugged is one of those people. I expect you’ll be foaming at the mouth about fiat money and the Trilateral Commission next, right?

  21. mikey said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:32

    Saul St. Booger has decided it’s new name should be Rugged?

    Damn, this idiot lives in his own private montana, doesn’t he…

    mikey

  22. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:32

    Quiz for people from Montana:

    Q) What are the second and third words in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution?

    A) ___-____________

  23. Rugged in Montana said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:35

    The words “well regulated” in 18th century english did not at all mean regulated by the government.

    If written in modern 21st century english it would translate into “well trained” or “well disciplined”.

  24. SamFromUtah said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:42

    Q) What are the second and third words in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution?

    Rugged in Montana said, I like pie!

    Nope, too many words.

  25. Scott said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:44

    “Well disciplined?” With whips? And spanking?

    Ooh, you naughty Republicans! Naughty, naughty!

    Now lick me.

  26. Doodle Bean said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:45

    No girls in the lab?

  27. PeeJ said,

    February 27, 2008 at 0:50

    Any and all government regulations of property rights (which the global warming hyseria crowd seek to abolish as is their goal) and gun ownership are unconstitutional and therefore null and void.

    Oh. Well there it is then. What shall we do now, kids? Hey! Let’s make a bomb -whatcha say! It’ll be fun AND constitutionalicious.

  28. rea said,

    February 27, 2008 at 1:04

    The words “well regulated” in 18th century english did not at all mean regulated by the government.

    Hard to reconcile that interpretation with the following provisions of Art I Sec 8 (note the use of the word, “regulation”), empowering Congress:

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

  29. His Grace said,

    February 27, 2008 at 1:08

    Oh, so when the constitution says this:

    In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

    It really says

    In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such “well trained”-ings or “well disciplined”-ings as the Congress shall make.

    Thanks Rugged in Montana for clearing this mystery up.

  30. Richard B. said,

    February 27, 2008 at 1:13

    Wasn’t “Brokeback Mountain” filmed in Montana?

    No, it was filmed in and around Fort MacLeod and Kananaskis, in Lorne Gunther’s home province of Alberta.

    By the way, Lorne would be annoyed at the French-language headline of the post. Like many Albertans, he has no use for Canada’s official biligualism. One right-wing Member of Parliament once said, “Canada is not a bilingual country. Canada is an English country with French neighbourhoods.” Heckuva way to piss off a quarter of the population.

  31. nick, with an i said,

    February 27, 2008 at 1:51

    …in fact many scientists are convinced that it is the sun that is warming not the earth.

    Especially if we agree that “scientists” can include economists, mechanical engineers, beauticians, TV repairmen, and guys who wanted to major in computer science twenty years ago but couldn’t crack Fortran…

  32. Stu Burton said,

    February 27, 2008 at 1:59

    So then it’s global cooling … much worse if you ask me

  33. El Cid said,

    February 27, 2008 at 2:05

    …many scientists are convinced that it is the sun that is warming not the earth…

    And that would also apparently include “many scientists” who seem to forget that we have been directly measuring the solar output for decades. Not something we need to, you know, “guess” at.

  34. Busta said,

    February 27, 2008 at 2:45

    The only people you ever see reading reading the National Pus (at least here in Toronto) are 20ish prepsters in suits taking a break from selling souls on the futures market to attempt to gather some justification for their existance from a paper founded by a Nixonian fauxristocrat mail-fraudist.

    True story.

  35. Smiling Mortician said,

    February 27, 2008 at 2:54

    Nice turn of phrase there, Busta.

    And I think Rugged needs a nice, manly, sheepskin-chapped hug. And maybe a callused thumb to wipe those tears away.

  36. mikey said,

    February 27, 2008 at 3:06

    When somebody says “I’m gonna be honest with you” they’re not.

    When somebody says “I’m giving you my BEST price” they’re not.

    When a dood says “let’s just get under the blanket and cuddle” that’s NOT his intention.

    And when somebody takes it upon themselves to let you know up front that they’re “rugged”. Well, let’s just say the likelihood includes lace panties and painted fingernails…

    mikey

  37. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    February 27, 2008 at 3:06

    It so cute when a Reich-winger shows its concern for the Constitution.

    Don’t worry, lil buddy, we’ll save it without your *help*.

  38. Mugged in Rontana said,

    February 27, 2008 at 3:30

    He was once liberal, ya know.

  39. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    February 27, 2008 at 5:08

    “Canada is an English country with French neighbourhoods…”

    Well, I know where I’m eating.

  40. Woodrowfan said,

    February 27, 2008 at 6:10

    Isn’t Montana one of those red states that lives off of the tax money collected in those socialist Northeaster (wealthy) states? Damn cowboy welfare queens…

  41. "Oh Stewardess, I Speak 'Nut" said,

    February 27, 2008 at 8:02

    “The words ‘well regulated’ in 18th century english did not at all mean regulated by the government. If written in modern 21st century english it would translate into ‘well trained’ or ‘well disciplined’.”

    It’s gems like this that make my time here so well spent.

  42. lobbey said,

    February 27, 2008 at 8:51

    In the middle-ages for example it was warm enough to grow wine grapes in Scotland, something that it is too cold for today. absolute bollocks…..

    and Mikey when someone says:

    “Off course I wont come in your mouth”

  43. Lesley said,

    February 27, 2008 at 9:18

    It’s a sure bet that sewer-money man’s funeral is going to be a replay of Chuckles the Clown’s, (sadly no longer available on youtube).

  44. Smut Clyde said,

    February 27, 2008 at 9:52

    In the middle-ages for example it was warm enough to grow wine grapes in Scotland, something that it is too cold for today.

    Now, what does the old religion say about crop failure?
    …to reverence the music, the drama, the rituals of the old gods, to love nature and to fear it, to rely upon it and to appease it when necessary.
    Sacrifice.

  45. southern quebec said,

    February 27, 2008 at 13:00

    Sure, dump on the National Toast! Why only last week, they had fine opinion pieces by KKKathy Shaidle and KKKate McMillan (“Canada’s Best Blogger”). Bwahhhhh…

  46. Gary Ruppert said,

    February 27, 2008 at 15:36

    The fact is, global warming is a big lie from algore and his idiot followers, its not getting warmer, but you change the name and think we are fooled, no we aren’t, not here in the Heartland, we know you are anti-business and anti-freedom and in support of one worlders and their terrorist allies, we will not falter, we will not surrender, to you or the terrorists, we will fight them and you, hopefully not in one of your smoking radioactive cities but in one of theirs, God has a special plan for America, but you dont believe in God, which is too bad when the end times arrive, but global warming is crap.

  47. Nyuk nyuk! said,

    February 27, 2008 at 15:53

    Mmmmn, I love the smell of troll-shit in the morning… it smells like… desperation!

  48. White Male, Jew of Liberal Fascism said,

    February 27, 2008 at 15:53

    Ontario man falls down sewer for money, dies

    This could only happen in Welland, aka “armpit of the Niagara peninsula”.

  49. Captain Freedom said,

    February 27, 2008 at 19:18

    “Ontario man falls down sewer for money, dies”

    I’m reminded of the final scene of ‘The Magic Christian’, where a gaggle of bespoke-attired businessmen are enticed to dive into a pool filled with sewage for the promise of free money. Sir Guy Grand (Peter Sellers) remarks, “It is a tad literal, don’t you think?”

  50. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    February 27, 2008 at 20:03

    It’s gems like this that make my time here so well spent.

    You’re welcome.

  51. Thursday said,

    February 27, 2008 at 23:42

    Mel Brooks sprand immediately to mind, but Bubba went and beat me to it. Bastard.

    The biggest problem some folks have in Alberta (and with our current Federal government) is that the oil they’re pumping out comes from tar sands; and yeah, that’s as pleasant as it sounds. Oil needs to be at a minimum of $50/barrel to be worth extracting and it’s a process that’s an environmental nightmare.

    See also: Venezuela getting rich.

    There’s one heck of a lot of money flooding into Alberta (and Canada) right now, and not many people living there have the balls to anger voters there by putting the brakes on; and there are folks like this who are too short-sighted to see anything but employment opportunities by opening his mouth for folks who want to hear what he says.

    I understand he’s worn out the knees of twenty-seven pairs of pants so far.

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