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		<title>By: Elmer Cropsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmer Cropsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 06:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very a lot for this flawless put up;that is the words that keeps me on monitor via out the day. I&#039;ve been wanting round in your website after I heard about them from a buddy and was thrilled after I was able to find it after trying to find long time. Being a avid blogger, I’m glad to see others taking initivative and contributing to the community. Just wished to comment to point out my appreciation for your web site as it is extremely difficult to do, and plenty of writers do not get credit they deserve. I am certain I’ll visit once more and will unfold the word to my friends.</description>
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		<title>By: borehole</title>
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		<dc:creator>borehole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your cynicism, while understandable given the last eight years, is not helpful.&quot;

Does it still count as concern trolling if you mean it? Honestly, if there&#039;s one thing we&#039;ve proved this decade, it&#039;s that no Dem gets to tell anybody what it takes to win. We&#039;re the team that swept the midterms and then proceeded to legislate as though we&#039;d lost in a landslide, remember? We SUCK, the lot of us, so as a fellow Chicago Cub I&#039;d appreciate it if you didn&#039;t tell me how to scratch my nuts.

If this guy&#039;s gonna get the nom, we&#039;d do well to bring some cynicism to the dance. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d go as far as Hattie, but yeah, there&#039;s something weird about giving this much weight to such an undefinable quality. If he inspires you, great, but maybe it&#039;s not an unalloyed good to be so easily roused by mere words.

And Hattie, Jong&#039;s been pretty goofy about this. She&#039;s been talking about mothers and daughters and shit, and throwing around charges of misogyny, which I would posit is far less of a factor among Dem primary voters than among, say, cable news dickheads. I&#039;m sorry, but you can&#039;t back a candidate that flawed and then cast aspersions on me for not joining you. Especially if you defend her awful record by essentially claiming that, as a woman, Clinton had to cast votes contra the country&#039;s interests and her own conscience, which I&#039;m pretty sure Jong did but I don&#039;t feel like looking it up.

I&#039;m actually glad she didn&#039;t show up for the vote today. They&#039;re both way too fuckin&#039; chummy with Lieberman, so this was, like, my tiebreaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your cynicism, while understandable given the last eight years, is not helpful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does it still count as concern trolling if you mean it? Honestly, if there&#8217;s one thing we&#8217;ve proved this decade, it&#8217;s that no Dem gets to tell anybody what it takes to win. We&#8217;re the team that swept the midterms and then proceeded to legislate as though we&#8217;d lost in a landslide, remember? We SUCK, the lot of us, so as a fellow Chicago Cub I&#8217;d appreciate it if you didn&#8217;t tell me how to scratch my nuts.</p>
<p>If this guy&#8217;s gonna get the nom, we&#8217;d do well to bring some cynicism to the dance. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d go as far as Hattie, but yeah, there&#8217;s something weird about giving this much weight to such an undefinable quality. If he inspires you, great, but maybe it&#8217;s not an unalloyed good to be so easily roused by mere words.</p>
<p>And Hattie, Jong&#8217;s been pretty goofy about this. She&#8217;s been talking about mothers and daughters and shit, and throwing around charges of misogyny, which I would posit is far less of a factor among Dem primary voters than among, say, cable news dickheads. I&#8217;m sorry, but you can&#8217;t back a candidate that flawed and then cast aspersions on me for not joining you. Especially if you defend her awful record by essentially claiming that, as a woman, Clinton had to cast votes contra the country&#8217;s interests and her own conscience, which I&#8217;m pretty sure Jong did but I don&#8217;t feel like looking it up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually glad she didn&#8217;t show up for the vote today. They&#8217;re both way too fuckin&#8217; chummy with Lieberman, so this was, like, my tiebreaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Hattie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tough for older women like me to see one of us get dumped,. Erica Jong is in a total rage over this at the Huff Post. I do not trust or even like charisma as a quality, because I think it is a form of mass narcissism. And Obama makes no promises. 
So I just say to myself, &quot;He&#039;s better than Bush.&quot; I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough for older women like me to see one of us get dumped,. Erica Jong is in a total rage over this at the Huff Post. I do not trust or even like charisma as a quality, because I think it is a form of mass narcissism. And Obama makes no promises.<br />
So I just say to myself, &#8220;He&#8217;s better than Bush.&#8221; I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8778.html#comment-503542</link>
		<dc:creator>atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He shore do talk purty</description>
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		<title>By: t4toby</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8778.html#comment-503430</link>
		<dc:creator>t4toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, he talks good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, he talks good.</p>
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		<title>By: atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I voted for him because, after some careful consideration, I concluded that he is the least likely of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly my reasoning as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I voted for him because, after some careful consideration, I concluded that he is the least likely of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly my reasoning as well.</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I concluded that he is the least likely of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s too fucking funny for words. And sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I concluded that he is the least likely of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s too fucking funny for words. And sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill in Exile &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FILE THIS UNDER - ME TOO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill in Exile &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FILE THIS UNDER - ME TOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brad at Sadly, No [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ba'al</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8778.html#comment-502631</link>
		<dc:creator>Ba'al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact of the matter is that both of these candidates have their flaws, but consider any Democrat who has been nominated since the 1950s and you would probably feel the same way.  On the other hand, consider what every Republican elected in the intervening period has actually DONE and choke while you swallow.

I for one like candidates who can speak in complete sentences, and leadership is emotional -- it is what makes a President effective once they are in office.  Your cynicism, while understandable given the last eight years, is not helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact of the matter is that both of these candidates have their flaws, but consider any Democrat who has been nominated since the 1950s and you would probably feel the same way.  On the other hand, consider what every Republican elected in the intervening period has actually DONE and choke while you swallow.</p>
<p>I for one like candidates who can speak in complete sentences, and leadership is emotional &#8212; it is what makes a President effective once they are in office.  Your cynicism, while understandable given the last eight years, is not helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: funluvn</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8778.html#comment-502518</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t vote here in NC until May 6 and I have to say I have no idea who I&#039;m going to vote for.  Neither Clinton or Obama are my cup of tea, so to speak.  Geez, what a quandry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t vote here in NC until May 6 and I have to say I have no idea who I&#8217;m going to vote for.  Neither Clinton or Obama are my cup of tea, so to speak.  Geez, what a quandry.</p>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Note to Obama supporters- you don&#8217;t want the Bradrocket writing your slogans. So far, all he seems to have come up with is: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LittlePig</title>
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		<dc:creator>LittlePig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I voted for him because, after some careful consideration, I concluded that he is the least likely of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office.&lt;/i&gt;

You too?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I voted for him because, after some careful consideration, I concluded that he is the least likely of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office.</i></p>
<p>You too?!</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Breath</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8778.html#comment-502290</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier Breath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for &quot;Big O&quot; so we could keep Hillary here in NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for &#8220;Big O&#8221; so we could keep Hillary here in NY</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Obama for President</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Obama for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office&quot;

I think thats how most people feel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;of all the major presidential candidates to do something horrifically shitty while in office&#8221;</p>
<p>I think thats how most people feel!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeb Bush</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8778.html#comment-501737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeb Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken wrote:
&quot;What he is saying. If you want change. YOU must demand it. If a million people DEMAND it, it can happen.&quot;

Ken, Ken, Ken, sweet, little Ken... 

&quot;And if you think that the million or so people in this country that are really interested in the truth about their government can support people who would tell them the truth, you got another thing coming. 
Because the million or so people in this country that are truly interested in the truth don’t have any money. &quot;
Jeb Bush, 1986</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken wrote:<br />
&#8220;What he is saying. If you want change. YOU must demand it. If a million people DEMAND it, it can happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ken, Ken, Ken, sweet, little Ken&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;And if you think that the million or so people in this country that are really interested in the truth about their government can support people who would tell them the truth, you got another thing coming.<br />
Because the million or so people in this country that are truly interested in the truth don’t have any money. &#8221;<br />
Jeb Bush, 1986</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ruppert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Ruppert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, darling, is that really you?</description>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Lord, Skippy, &lt;a href=&quot;http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2310/theflyingimageofstjudeoah9.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;now look what you&#039;ve gone and made me do.&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;m not sure who the moll is, but hey... 

thunder, I feel ya on McCaskill. One of my more memorable moments of election night was standing in the bar, where it might as well have been the Superbowl for all the excitement, and having some random and rather attractive young lass poke her head in the door, look at the first person she saw, ask &quot;How are we doing in Missouri?&quot;, expect an answer, and get one. I love my town.

I gave what was to me no small amount of cash to the Jim Webb campaign, knowing full well there would be many things he&#039;d do that I wouldn&#039;t necessarily like, and there have been some. The alternative, however... 

And so, I wind up back at Brad\&#039;s reason for voting the O. I second the motion. I&#039;d also like to have another Presidential election that doesn&#039;t involve a Bush or a Clinton. It&#039;s been twenty years. What the hell, let&#039;s give it a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord, Skippy, <a href="http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2310/theflyingimageofstjudeoah9.jpg" rel="nofollow">now look what you&#8217;ve gone and made me do.</a> I&#8217;m not sure who the moll is, but hey&#8230; </p>
<p>thunder, I feel ya on McCaskill. One of my more memorable moments of election night was standing in the bar, where it might as well have been the Superbowl for all the excitement, and having some random and rather attractive young lass poke her head in the door, look at the first person she saw, ask &#8220;How are we doing in Missouri?&#8221;, expect an answer, and get one. I love my town.</p>
<p>I gave what was to me no small amount of cash to the Jim Webb campaign, knowing full well there would be many things he&#8217;d do that I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily like, and there have been some. The alternative, however&#8230; </p>
<p>And so, I wind up back at Brad\&#8217;s reason for voting the O. I second the motion. I&#8217;d also like to have another Presidential election that doesn&#8217;t involve a Bush or a Clinton. It&#8217;s been twenty years. What the hell, let&#8217;s give it a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: goat or panic</title>
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		<dc:creator>goat or panic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris St. Ruppert

&quot;drug-dealing, dope-smoking&quot;?

Present tense?

Really?

Drug Dealing?

Really?

And liberals are the racist ones?

&quot;Obama can’t win. No amount of stupid chanting than change that fact. Obama can’t win.&quot;
&quot;Obama can&#039;t win.  Obama can&#039;t win.  Keep chanting... maybe you could set it to music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris St. Ruppert</p>
<p>&#8220;drug-dealing, dope-smoking&#8221;?</p>
<p>Present tense?</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>Drug Dealing?</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>And liberals are the racist ones?</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama can’t win. No amount of stupid chanting than change that fact. Obama can’t win.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Obama can&#8217;t win.  Obama can&#8217;t win.  Keep chanting&#8230; maybe you could set it to music.</p>
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		<title>By: goat or panic</title>
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		<dc:creator>goat or panic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama

Because I want to go to Europe and not have to pretend that I&#039;m from Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama</p>
<p>Because I want to go to Europe and not have to pretend that I&#8217;m from Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ruppert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ruppert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama can&#039;t win.

You seriously think that someone who was a state senator four years ago is going to become President now?

Such things don&#039;t happen without a lot of luck or being puppeteered. Obama is a puppet of the Chicago Daley Machine, which is in the crosshairs of investigation by the feds.

For all the talk of change and reform, one of the first things a President Obama will do is firing US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who is currently working on prosecutions of Daley machine crimes.

Granted, the Great Pumpkin has better odds at winning the Presidency than a drug-dealing, dope-smoking, inexperienced flaky cult leader like Obama.

Being all charisma and no intelligence or experience may work in counties like Kenya. But the president of the United States needs more than just making good speeches.

When the Iranians threaten to unleash WMDs, President McCain will do the right thing. President Obama would fold.

I&#039;m not worried about defeat in November.

If Obama somehow gets the nod. Then his ties to Rezko, the Daley Machine, and his lack of depth will doom him. As well, as noted by Democrat governor Ed Rendell, Democrats will likely desert Obama due to his racial background (such concerns don&#039;t seem to be valid when it comes to black Republicans, who don&#039;t see large numbers of white Republicans flipping over to the other side. But those white liberals are the tolerant ones here. George Wallace was a white liberal after all.)

If Clinton somehow gets the nod, then a huge chunk of Obama supporters will stay home or vote McCain.

Look at the exit polls, Obama consistently loses Democratic voters and wins Independents. Those voters will vote for the moderate McCain over the ultraliberal Clinton.

Most of the student vote will be too busy smoking pot and playing hackysack to vote.

Obama can&#039;t win. No amount of stupid chanting than change that fact. Obama can&#039;t win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama can&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>You seriously think that someone who was a state senator four years ago is going to become President now?</p>
<p>Such things don&#8217;t happen without a lot of luck or being puppeteered. Obama is a puppet of the Chicago Daley Machine, which is in the crosshairs of investigation by the feds.</p>
<p>For all the talk of change and reform, one of the first things a President Obama will do is firing US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who is currently working on prosecutions of Daley machine crimes.</p>
<p>Granted, the Great Pumpkin has better odds at winning the Presidency than a drug-dealing, dope-smoking, inexperienced flaky cult leader like Obama.</p>
<p>Being all charisma and no intelligence or experience may work in counties like Kenya. But the president of the United States needs more than just making good speeches.</p>
<p>When the Iranians threaten to unleash WMDs, President McCain will do the right thing. President Obama would fold.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not worried about defeat in November.</p>
<p>If Obama somehow gets the nod. Then his ties to Rezko, the Daley Machine, and his lack of depth will doom him. As well, as noted by Democrat governor Ed Rendell, Democrats will likely desert Obama due to his racial background (such concerns don&#8217;t seem to be valid when it comes to black Republicans, who don&#8217;t see large numbers of white Republicans flipping over to the other side. But those white liberals are the tolerant ones here. George Wallace was a white liberal after all.)</p>
<p>If Clinton somehow gets the nod, then a huge chunk of Obama supporters will stay home or vote McCain.</p>
<p>Look at the exit polls, Obama consistently loses Democratic voters and wins Independents. Those voters will vote for the moderate McCain over the ultraliberal Clinton.</p>
<p>Most of the student vote will be too busy smoking pot and playing hackysack to vote.</p>
<p>Obama can&#8217;t win. No amount of stupid chanting than change that fact. Obama can&#8217;t win.</p>
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