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		<title>By: Black Like Fred &#171; BIG INK</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-538908</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Like Fred &#171; BIG INK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Let&#8217;s get one thing straight,&#8221; indeed. Forget the possibility that the white part of Armisen was playing the white part of Obama (whereas the black part of Obama was presumably robbing the Asian part of Armisen&#8217;s bodega). You can&#8217;t fit comedy into a social or political agenda (which is different from saying you can&#8217;t use comedy to examine a social or political agenda, which is what its for, in large part). Political comedy has an agenda, absolutely, but that style is politics bound up with comedy, not punchlines as party lines. You can do it, of course. But you end up with something that rapidly recedes from being funny, until it achieves a distance infinitely removed from anything that could called comedy, except in the brittlest structural sense. Like so. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Let&#8217;s get one thing straight,&#8221; indeed. Forget the possibility that the white part of Armisen was playing the white part of Obama (whereas the black part of Obama was presumably robbing the Asian part of Armisen&#8217;s bodega). You can&#8217;t fit comedy into a social or political agenda (which is different from saying you can&#8217;t use comedy to examine a social or political agenda, which is what its for, in large part). Political comedy has an agenda, absolutely, but that style is politics bound up with comedy, not punchlines as party lines. You can do it, of course. But you end up with something that rapidly recedes from being funny, until it achieves a distance infinitely removed from anything that could called comedy, except in the brittlest structural sense. Like so. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlueHerald 2.0 - News You Can Abuse!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-497026</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueHerald 2.0 - News You Can Abuse!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clinton on this one — while the RNC and TownHall.com spread the lie (as did a conservative &#8220;comedy&#8221; video — watch it at your own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Clinton on this one — while the RNC and TownHall.com spread the lie (as did a conservative &#8220;comedy&#8221; video — watch it at your own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-496736</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tina Fey watch yer back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina Fey watch yer back.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-496674</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see that the comedy cream is still rising to the top in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see that the comedy cream is still rising to the top in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: WoodyD</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-496591</link>
		<dc:creator>WoodyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plaid Adder over at DU has an excellent explanation of what made the Half Hour News Hour, and what makes conservative &quot;humor&quot; in general, so tragically unfunny. Scroll down -- it&#039;s a ways down on the page.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/?az=archives&amp;j=492&amp;page=1

And holy crap on a cracker, I could get a better chromakey clip than that on our shitty little college video mixing board. In 1985. The writing, the delivery, the utterly predictable targets, the painfully awkward setup for an unfunny punchline -- so when they were done, they looked at this and said, &quot;Yup, that&#039;s a keeper. Let&#039;s post it and let the laughter begin!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plaid Adder over at DU has an excellent explanation of what made the Half Hour News Hour, and what makes conservative &#8220;humor&#8221; in general, so tragically unfunny. Scroll down &#8212; it&#8217;s a ways down on the page.</p>
<p><a href="http://journals.democraticunderground.com/?az=archives&#038;j=492&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://journals.democraticunderground.com/?az=archives&#038;j=492&#038;page=1</a></p>
<p>And holy crap on a cracker, I could get a better chromakey clip than that on our shitty little college video mixing board. In 1985. The writing, the delivery, the utterly predictable targets, the painfully awkward setup for an unfunny punchline &#8212; so when they were done, they looked at this and said, &#8220;Yup, that&#8217;s a keeper. Let&#8217;s post it and let the laughter begin!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-496300</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex-Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important comedic element of A Daily Show is the comedic timing. Jon and the correspondents (band name, anyone?) have amazing grasps on their ability to time a joke so it&#039;s just awkward enough to be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most important comedic element of A Daily Show is the comedic timing. Jon and the correspondents (band name, anyone?) have amazing grasps on their ability to time a joke so it&#8217;s just awkward enough to be funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Neilson</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-495070</link>
		<dc:creator>Neilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodeobob:

I agree that The Daily Show&#039;s effectiveness is largely due to excellent writing, but I wouldn&#039;t rule out format so quickly. In a typical episode Jon will discuss a single issue or event in a monologue for several minutes and then segue to a dialog with one of his correspondents about it. 

I&#039;m not sure if this makes TDS funnier, but it makes it better and less shallow. Jon and his writers clearly consider each issue seriously. Focusing on a  single issue or event allows them to have more complex jokes, or jokes that build on each other, but also informs the viewer and encourages him or her to think about and discuss political issues. 

I think this has a lot to do with what makes TDS also better than SNL&#039;s &quot;Weekend Update&quot;, which like &quot;Newsbusters&quot; is mostly about one-liners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodeobob:</p>
<p>I agree that The Daily Show&#8217;s effectiveness is largely due to excellent writing, but I wouldn&#8217;t rule out format so quickly. In a typical episode Jon will discuss a single issue or event in a monologue for several minutes and then segue to a dialog with one of his correspondents about it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this makes TDS funnier, but it makes it better and less shallow. Jon and his writers clearly consider each issue seriously. Focusing on a  single issue or event allows them to have more complex jokes, or jokes that build on each other, but also informs the viewer and encourages him or her to think about and discuss political issues. </p>
<p>I think this has a lot to do with what makes TDS also better than SNL&#8217;s &#8220;Weekend Update&#8221;, which like &#8220;Newsbusters&#8221; is mostly about one-liners.</p>
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		<title>By: Neilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only remotely funny joke was the one about the Stars Wars nerds at the end. This wasn&#039;t as ridiculously bad the &quot;The Half Hour News Hour&quot; but it was still pretty bad. Which brings me to the question, why aren&#039;t conservatives funny? Has anyone witnessed any genuinely funny conservative humor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only remotely funny joke was the one about the Stars Wars nerds at the end. This wasn&#8217;t as ridiculously bad the &#8220;The Half Hour News Hour&#8221; but it was still pretty bad. Which brings me to the question, why aren&#8217;t conservatives funny? Has anyone witnessed any genuinely funny conservative humor?</p>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494760</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe if you&#039;re lucky M&#039;a&#039;r&#039;i&#039;e&#039; J&#039;o&#039;n&#039;&#039; will start vlogging.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Oh, yes, please. Please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe if you&#8217;re lucky M&#8217;a'r&#8217;i'e&#8217; J&#8217;o'n&#8221; will start vlogging.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, yes, please. Please!</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Breath</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494632</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier Breath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservatives want to win the funny wars of the 00s like Goldwater wanted to take the 60s.  Beware 30 years from now, when blatantly unfunny will become the new funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservatives want to win the funny wars of the 00s like Goldwater wanted to take the 60s.  Beware 30 years from now, when blatantly unfunny will become the new funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494459</link>
		<dc:creator>Thursday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

First: I&#039;m going to go re-read all the P.J. O&#039;Rourke I own, just as a reminder that there ARE people out there who are smart, funny, and in the opposite political side from me;

Second: Lay the hell off Joan Jett.  The is cooler than any gabbling vidiot could aspire to be.  The hapless form promoting its own feeble intellect shown here is Anti-Rock and Roll; it is Anti-Punk; it is indeed the Anti-Jett.

Joan Jett &lt;b&gt;still&lt;/b&gt; gets me hard.  This pathetic rag?  Not with a hood, gag and bottle of NoDoze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>First: I&#8217;m going to go re-read all the P.J. O&#8217;Rourke I own, just as a reminder that there ARE people out there who are smart, funny, and in the opposite political side from me;</p>
<p>Second: Lay the hell off Joan Jett.  The is cooler than any gabbling vidiot could aspire to be.  The hapless form promoting its own feeble intellect shown here is Anti-Rock and Roll; it is Anti-Punk; it is indeed the Anti-Jett.</p>
<p>Joan Jett <b>still</b> gets me hard.  This pathetic rag?  Not with a hood, gag and bottle of NoDoze.</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494303</link>
		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t get the sound to work.  Maybe there is a God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t get the sound to work.  Maybe there is a God?</p>
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		<title>By: Spokane Moderate</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494233</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokane Moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid internet!  Be more funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid internet!  Be more funny!</p>
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		<title>By: Robster</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494188</link>
		<dc:creator>Robster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhere on a studio set, Dennis Miller is yelling, &quot;Who the &amp;@%* stole my jokes?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere on a studio set, Dennis Miller is yelling, &#8220;Who the &amp;@%* stole my jokes?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sagra</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494161</link>
		<dc:creator>sagra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Obama fundraising joke was just stupid. Ha ha, Oprah has lots of money!&quot;

Am I the only one who go the &quot;Ha ha, Black men steal stuff!&quot; part?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Obama fundraising joke was just stupid. Ha ha, Oprah has lots of money!&#8221;</p>
<p>Am I the only one who go the &#8220;Ha ha, Black men steal stuff!&#8221; part?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Max</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494153</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The laughter was either canned, or they wired 10,000 volts to each chair so that whoever doesn’t laugh gets zapped.&lt;/i&gt;

It was canned. You can tell by the way the laugh track continued even through the edits (if you can call the &quot;spin effect&quot; on the video toaster a &quot;effect&quot;.)

Smug bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The laughter was either canned, or they wired 10,000 volts to each chair so that whoever doesn’t laugh gets zapped.</i></p>
<p>It was canned. You can tell by the way the laugh track continued even through the edits (if you can call the &#8220;spin effect&#8221; on the video toaster a &#8220;effect&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Smug bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: sagra</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494152</link>
		<dc:creator>sagra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t get it. Why can’t conservatives tell jokes?&quot;

They&#039;re better at physical humor.  You know, like ganging up on some poor schmuck from the wrong side of the tracks and kicking his teeth out.  Yee haw!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t get it. Why can’t conservatives tell jokes?&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re better at physical humor.  You know, like ganging up on some poor schmuck from the wrong side of the tracks and kicking his teeth out.  Yee haw!!</p>
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		<title>By: sagra</title>
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		<dc:creator>sagra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear as God as my witness, I&#039;ll never not laugh at Jon Stewart again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear as God as my witness, I&#8217;ll never not laugh at Jon Stewart again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookish</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494107</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my dog started suffering like that, we put him down. It&#039;s the only humane thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my dog started suffering like that, we put him down. It&#8217;s the only humane thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Someone</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8725.html#comment-494106</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I like how they have to keep cutting the scene because she couldn’t even deliver this tripe without screwing up every other joke.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I find it a little bit encouraging to think that maybe one person, one small voice, involved with that production actually had sufficient brain capacity to say &quot;No, that &#039;joke&#039; isn&#039;t even funny enough for this train wreck&quot; and cut something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I like how they have to keep cutting the scene because she couldn’t even deliver this tripe without screwing up every other joke.</i></p>
<p>Actually, I find it a little bit encouraging to think that maybe one person, one small voice, involved with that production actually had sufficient brain capacity to say &#8220;No, that &#8216;joke&#8217; isn&#8217;t even funny enough for this train wreck&#8221; and cut something.</p>
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