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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; The end of reason</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-624474</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; The end of reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, no. But I never really held him on that high of a pedestal to begin with. As I&#8217;ve explained before, politicians are a means to an end. They use us to gain power through votes, we then use [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, no. But I never really held him on that high of a pedestal to begin with. As I&#8217;ve explained before, politicians are a means to an end. They use us to gain power through votes, we then use [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Prog Gold &#187; Blog Archive &#187; He&#8217;s Not The Messiah He&#8217;s An Ordinary Bloke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prog Gold &#187; Blog Archive &#187; He&#8217;s Not The Messiah He&#8217;s An Ordinary Bloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] into the pillow, a return to the dream of sheep. He takes particular aim at liberal centrist Ezra Klein: The answer, I think, is related to that most childish desire: the security blanket. More [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] into the pillow, a return to the dream of sheep. He takes particular aim at liberal centrist Ezra Klein: The answer, I think, is related to that most childish desire: the security blanket. More [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; The Cult Thing</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-548208</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; The Cult Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] former) was to &#8220;perpetuate a rightwing meme.&#8221; Well, sorry, but when I see stuff like this positively adhesive post on Obama by Ezra Klein, my first impulse is not unlike Robert [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] former) was to &#8220;perpetuate a rightwing meme.&#8221; Well, sorry, but when I see stuff like this positively adhesive post on Obama by Ezra Klein, my first impulse is not unlike Robert [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlueHerald 2.0 - News You Can Abuse!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-528324</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueHerald 2.0 - News You Can Abuse!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in power. Still, while there are a handful of politicians I actually sorta like, I tend toward Brad of Sadly, No!&#8217;s view, that &#8220;When you start talking about politicians like they’re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in power. Still, while there are a handful of politicians I actually sorta like, I tend toward Brad of Sadly, No!&#8217;s view, that &#8220;When you start talking about politicians like they’re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-413282</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Major guy actually wrote that post after he was dead? Wow, it&#039;s no wonder we have the Iraqis on the run! USA! USA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Major guy actually wrote that post after he was dead? Wow, it&#8217;s no wonder we have the Iraqis on the run! USA! USA!</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-412821</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t trust Edwards, because Edwards has shown a willingness to pander to anyone and everyone (look at how he treated Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwan as bloggers, or his cheap political ploy about apologizing for his Iraq war vote).&lt;/i&gt;

1. Amanda has endorsed Edwards. If she can get over this, why can&#039;t you?

2. So would it have been better if Edwards had taken the George Bush approach and refused to apologize for his vote for the AUMP, or even admit he was wrong about it in the first place?

Hilary gets no support from me because, while the Bush Administration has spent the last seven years killing innocent Iraqi civilians and wiping its considerable ass with the Constitution, Hilary chose to use her position as a US Senator to . . . agitate against video game violence.

Talk about a cheap political ploy. We had real issues she could have spent her time working to fix. Instead she chose to pander and grandstand. I&#039;ll vote for her if she&#039;s the nominee, but I certainly won&#039;t be happy about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t trust Edwards, because Edwards has shown a willingness to pander to anyone and everyone (look at how he treated Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwan as bloggers, or his cheap political ploy about apologizing for his Iraq war vote).</i></p>
<p>1. Amanda has endorsed Edwards. If she can get over this, why can&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>2. So would it have been better if Edwards had taken the George Bush approach and refused to apologize for his vote for the AUMP, or even admit he was wrong about it in the first place?</p>
<p>Hilary gets no support from me because, while the Bush Administration has spent the last seven years killing innocent Iraqi civilians and wiping its considerable ass with the Constitution, Hilary chose to use her position as a US Senator to . . . agitate against video game violence.</p>
<p>Talk about a cheap political ploy. We had real issues she could have spent her time working to fix. Instead she chose to pander and grandstand. I&#8217;ll vote for her if she&#8217;s the nominee, but I certainly won&#8217;t be happy about it.</p>
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		<title>By: eataTREE</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-412352</link>
		<dc:creator>eataTREE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you fall in love with a politician, you&#039;ll get your heart broken, stomped on, shattered into a bazillion little pieces. Ezra&#039;s young, but he&#039;ll learn.

I&#039;m fine with Barack O., kumbayah and all. The only way to have peace is to have peace. If you insist on settling all the scores first, peace will never come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you fall in love with a politician, you&#8217;ll get your heart broken, stomped on, shattered into a bazillion little pieces. Ezra&#8217;s young, but he&#8217;ll learn.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fine with Barack O., kumbayah and all. The only way to have peace is to have peace. If you insist on settling all the scores first, peace will never come.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-412034</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama may or may not be a gifted politician, but Ezra Klein is definitely a fucking tool. I predict a great future for him in punditry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama may or may not be a gifted politician, but Ezra Klein is definitely a fucking tool. I predict a great future for him in punditry.</p>
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		<title>By: borehole</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411804</link>
		<dc:creator>borehole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne Laurie--

First off, that 9:01 introductory paragraph is great. Dare I say, inspiring?

Also, you started walking down a pretty dark road there at the end, but that&#039;s what I like most about Obama--just by declaring, he&#039;s essentially saying, &quot;Yeah, I&#039;ll got shot at, but I can take it.&quot;

And speaking of, fuckin&#039; G&#039;kar, man. Even in a warzone the dude had his priorities straight, showing up to dis Joe Klein in comment threads. At this point I&#039;d hate this war even if it wasn&#039;t complete bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Laurie&#8211;</p>
<p>First off, that 9:01 introductory paragraph is great. Dare I say, inspiring?</p>
<p>Also, you started walking down a pretty dark road there at the end, but that&#8217;s what I like most about Obama&#8211;just by declaring, he&#8217;s essentially saying, &#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;ll got shot at, but I can take it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And speaking of, fuckin&#8217; G&#8217;kar, man. Even in a warzone the dude had his priorities straight, showing up to dis Joe Klein in comment threads. At this point I&#8217;d hate this war even if it wasn&#8217;t complete bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: John O</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411548</link>
		<dc:creator>John O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote is on Joan Severance in &quot;Bird on a Wire,&quot; for hottest vet.

I don&#039;t think she was married, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote is on Joan Severance in &#8220;Bird on a Wire,&#8221; for hottest vet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think she was married, though.</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411400</link>
		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sexiest role in the history of fictional veterinarian’s wives.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;See also:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Damning with faint praise&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sexiest role in the history of fictional veterinarian’s wives.</i></p>
<p><b>See also:</b> <i>Damning with faint praise</i></p>
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		<title>By: Emperor U.S.A. (the naked truth)</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411392</link>
		<dc:creator>Emperor U.S.A. (the naked truth)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Those of you Perfect Ones should stand up and tell us how you’ve never been wrong, or even disagreed with.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve been wrong lots of times. Generally, though, I manage to learn something from it and &lt;i&gt;avoid being wrong the same way repeatedly over the next few years.&lt;/i&gt; I can damn sure guarantee that if I had a huge audience of readers all too happy to tell me when I&#039;d fucked up, how it happened, and what I could do to avoid doing it again, I&#039;d have to be a cement-headed tool to keep fucking up.

&lt;i&gt;He’s a good, smart, &lt;b&gt;sensible&lt;/b&gt;, honest, fair man&lt;/i&gt;

I can almost hear HTML guffawing from here. &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dir.salon.com/story/comics/tomo/2004/07/19/tomo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sensible&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, indeed. That&#039;s the fucking problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Those of you Perfect Ones should stand up and tell us how you’ve never been wrong, or even disagreed with.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wrong lots of times. Generally, though, I manage to learn something from it and <i>avoid being wrong the same way repeatedly over the next few years.</i> I can damn sure guarantee that if I had a huge audience of readers all too happy to tell me when I&#8217;d fucked up, how it happened, and what I could do to avoid doing it again, I&#8217;d have to be a cement-headed tool to keep fucking up.</p>
<p><i>He’s a good, smart, <b>sensible</b>, honest, fair man</i></p>
<p>I can almost hear HTML guffawing from here. &#8220;<a href="http://dir.salon.com/story/comics/tomo/2004/07/19/tomo/" rel="nofollow">Sensible</a>&#8220;, indeed. That&#8217;s the fucking problem.</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
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		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone ever asks you to identify a reasonable conservative blogger, give them the name of  Andy Olmsted . . .

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11602</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone ever asks you to identify a reasonable conservative blogger, give them the name of  Andy Olmsted . . .</p>
<p><a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11602" rel="nofollow">http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11602</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Heretik : Hold the Milk and Honey, Please</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411261</link>
		<dc:creator>The Heretik : Hold the Milk and Honey, Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Latest News from the City on a Hill? Hold the milk and honey, please. Politicians as prophets often turn into demagogues. Men of mere flesh often take on more graven images the more we know them.  Word over flesh? Great! Action on the rotting flesh in Washington? Even better. For all the heavenly rhetoric, the second act will have to happen here on earth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Latest News from the City on a Hill? Hold the milk and honey, please. Politicians as prophets often turn into demagogues. Men of mere flesh often take on more graven images the more we know them.  Word over flesh? Great! Action on the rotting flesh in Washington? Even better. For all the heavenly rhetoric, the second act will have to happen here on earth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Djur</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411234</link>
		<dc:creator>Djur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Those of you Perfect Ones should stand up and tell us how you’ve never been wrong, or even disagreed with.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 There&#039;s a difference between never being wrong and never being so wrong that you support a clearly illegal war of aggression waged by a cadre of lunatic, sanguinary ideologues because you&#039;re concerned about the length of the opposition&#039;s hair and the smell of their patchouli oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Those of you Perfect Ones should stand up and tell us how you’ve never been wrong, or even disagreed with.
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<p> There&#8217;s a difference between never being wrong and never being so wrong that you support a clearly illegal war of aggression waged by a cadre of lunatic, sanguinary ideologues because you&#8217;re concerned about the length of the opposition&#8217;s hair and the smell of their patchouli oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411218</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I thought being leftwing meant that you were too smart to fall for creepy shit like that.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, I &lt;i&gt;wish&lt;/i&gt;.  The only difference I&#039;ve noticed, over the last 50 years, is that leftwingers fall for what one orator referred to as &lt;i&gt;&quot;the better angels of our nature&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, while rightwingers fall for whoever promises to hurt more of their self-perceived &quot;enemies&quot; the most. 

But I think Ezra Klein, however pure his intentions, has become the unwitting sock puppet for the Find-Us-A-Messiah wing of what approaches Leftist politics in America, which would be somewhere around centre-right in the rest of the world.  I&#039;ll vote for Obama if he&#039;s the nominee, but I&#039;m immune to his glamour. 

Speaking of glamour and messianism, anybody taking bets on how long before the first would-be assassin shows up at one of Obama&#039;s events?  And will it be a total surprise if said assassin turns out to be a putative &quot;leftist&quot; whose demons have convinced them that Obama has somehow &quot;betrayed&quot; the purity of (for instance) Kucinich&#039;s Party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I thought being leftwing meant that you were too smart to fall for creepy shit like that.</i></p>
<p>Oh, I <i>wish</i>.  The only difference I&#8217;ve noticed, over the last 50 years, is that leftwingers fall for what one orator referred to as <i>&#8220;the better angels of our nature&#8221;</i>, while rightwingers fall for whoever promises to hurt more of their self-perceived &#8220;enemies&#8221; the most. </p>
<p>But I think Ezra Klein, however pure his intentions, has become the unwitting sock puppet for the Find-Us-A-Messiah wing of what approaches Leftist politics in America, which would be somewhere around centre-right in the rest of the world.  I&#8217;ll vote for Obama if he&#8217;s the nominee, but I&#8217;m immune to his glamour. </p>
<p>Speaking of glamour and messianism, anybody taking bets on how long before the first would-be assassin shows up at one of Obama&#8217;s events?  And will it be a total surprise if said assassin turns out to be a putative &#8220;leftist&#8221; whose demons have convinced them that Obama has somehow &#8220;betrayed&#8221; the purity of (for instance) Kucinich&#8217;s Party?</p>
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		<title>By: Athansor</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411200</link>
		<dc:creator>Athansor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killed in Iraq:
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/01/andy-olmsted.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killed in Iraq:<br />
<a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/01/andy-olmsted.html" rel="nofollow">http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/01/andy-olmsted.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411146</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sally Struthers as Fran Clinton in The Getaway.

Sexiest role in the history of fictional veterinarian&#039;s wives.

Oooohhh, bay bee...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally Struthers as Fran Clinton in The Getaway.</p>
<p>Sexiest role in the history of fictional veterinarian&#8217;s wives.</p>
<p>Oooohhh, bay bee&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8396.html#comment-411125</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Edwards gave what I thought was the best speech of the night.&quot;

Edwards was at risk of morphing into Sally Struthers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Edwards gave what I thought was the best speech of the night.&#8221;</p>
<p>Edwards was at risk of morphing into Sally Struthers.</p>
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		<title>By: Better than Ezra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better than Ezra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Quite an impressively compact statement of passive-aggressive paranoia.&lt;/i&gt;

Does it beat &quot;(R)esident Bush&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Quite an impressively compact statement of passive-aggressive paranoia.</i></p>
<p>Does it beat &#8220;(R)esident Bush&#8221;?</p>
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