Dec
17

A tantalizing peek at history’s greatest book




Posted at 17:29 by Brad

Thanks to a certain Christmas elf who sent us this early present:

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Personally, I think the chapter about liberals being seKKKret racists will be the most LOL-worthy, although “The 1960s: Fascism Takes to the Streets” should be good for giggles as well.

Additionally, I can’t believe the good Dr. Loadpants somehow managed to stretch this nonsense to over 400 pages. I wonder how many of them are crayon drawings of Hitlery KKKliNtoN!!!11! in combat boots (prediction: no less than 265).

More below the fold.

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The best line in the book jacket by far is:

The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

How do you write this shit with a straight face? More importantly, how do you get paid to write this shit with a straight face?

341 Comments »

  1. Jennifer said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:33

    Gee, I dunno. Even the intro looks like a goldmine. Professor Pantload is gonna ‘splain how every eminent historian of the past 60 years is wrong and he’s the only one who’s right? Pass the popcorn!

  2. fouro said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:33

    Good to see he’s got the chapters named. Filling in the blanks is always the hard part about writing a book. I hear it’s even worse for non-fiction.

  3. ploeg said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:36

    Amazing how Pantload can refer to the Nazi Party Platform in his book. The Nazis had a “platform” because every party in Germany had to have one, and they constructed the platform to please Ernst Roehm and his SA revolutionaries. By the end of 1934, the Nazi Party Platform was as dead as Ernst and his brownshirt buddies. The real platform, such as it was, was all in Adolf Hitler’s head.

  4. ploeg said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:39

    And then you have the book jacket:

    Did you know, I never knew that the Third Reich meant Germany. I mean it’s just drenched with historical goodies like that… — Roger De Bris

  5. fouro said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:40

    Damn, firefox doesn’t like the SN comments box. “Glad he’s starting with a children’s story, I hear it’s even worse for non-fiction.”

  6. Jay said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:42

    I hope they checked it out of the library instead of feeding this shit.

  7. Flying Fox said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:46

    We just know he’s never actually going to stop and define Fascism at all in that waste of dead trees, is he? I love how only chapter 2 does not have fascist or fascism in the title. I’m curious about the last chapter. I suspected that the pantload was a two-bit closet fascist. Dare I expect him to come out of the closet in his blackshirt?

  8. Legalize said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:49

    HItler like to paint. Therefore painters are fascists.

    Et cetera, et cetera.

  9. Dan Someone said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:50

    Irony has been reincarnated just so it can commit suicide over this:

    Calling someone a fascist is the fastest way to shut them up, defining their views as beyond the political pale. But who are the real fascists among us?

  10. Scott said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:51

    Betcha a quarter the NYTimes lets the Pantload review his own book…

  11. pedestrian said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:51

    Look at the last chapter. We’re all fascists now? Really? You know, it IS possible to expand a definition to the point that it becomes meaningless…

  12. Andrew said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:53

    More importantly, how do you get paid to write this shit with a straight face?

    Gee, I’m stumped. Go ask your mom.

  13. Nimrod Gently said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:56

    I want to kick that contents page in the balls. Make that happen somehow.

  14. Anna said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:56

    sometimes I think this is just a moronic attempt on the GOP’s part to back-engineer their misuse of the word “fascism”…”let’s see, who can we get to write a book about it…say, I know–what about Lucianne’s “Li’l Mistake”! lord knows he’s not doing anything at the Corner…!”

  15. The Hon. Dr. St. Rev. Bradley S. Rocket, Esq, PhD, MD said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:57

    Nimrod- the Nazis were very fond of ball-kicking as well, you know. Perhaps we’re overlooking the hidden genius of Jonah’s thesis?

  16. B Smith said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:57

    Why is everyone complaining? This amount of comedy is a bargain at $27.95! As an added bonus, you get serious currency arbitrage opportunities with the CAD pricing.

  17. Todd said,

    December 17, 2007 at 17:59

    Hey, where’s the chapter on Jewish Nazis? You’d think for completeness, he’d include a chapter on all the Jewish admirers of Hitler and the Nazi Party.

  18. The Hon. Dr. St. Rev. Bradley S. Rocket, Esq, PhD, MD said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:00

    Todd- Hitler was a quarter Jewish. That means, by Jonah’s logic, that every Jew is at least a quarter Nazi.

    God I can’t wait to read this book.

  19. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:00

    PEEK.

  20. Flying Fox said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:01

    Almost forgot. ploeg, Hitler put all of his ideas in “Mein Kampf.” Its supposed to be poorly written and no one actually read it who wasn’t already a Nazi.

    Now that I’ve actually read the dust jacket, its kind of funny. Jonah actually has quite a few facts right. HItler was a vegetarian (egg-eating vegetarian. Hitler loved himself some eggs) for long enough he may have actually lost the ability to digest meat. he despised smoking (although he did not acutally ban smoking anywhere but his residences. even he had limits). He did support abortion when it could be known that the baby would be “unift” which was rare due to technological limitations. Gun control already existed in Germany when Hitler came to power. He supported stuff for the elderly so that they would be out of his sight (that came from an unpleasent childhood experience with a senile old aunt). Himmler was all about the mythic spiritual. Hitler acutally hated that stuff but let Himmler have his bottle. And seriously, is Jonah so cynical or so stupid he thinks anyone will buy the racial quota line? Seriously, he’s talking about HItler. And he had campus speech codes b/c he knew (as many tyrants know) university students are energetic, well-read, oftern motivated, and could very well have too much free time. Hitler was a devout Christian, albeit somewhat nondenominational in his adulthood (a roman catholic by birth, he stopped going to mass regularly after WWI). Oh and Jonah, National Socialism is different from socialism, not that I expect you to actually know anything about the latter. Socialism is communism by patient election, not revolution. National Socialism is about your home land over absolutely everything else. It did grow out of trade unions, which Hitler turned against. Oh, and that wealth the Nazis confiscated? It came from Jews, “enemies of the state,” Poles and other untermetchen (spelling?)

  21. The Hon. Dr. St. Rev. Bradley S. Rocket, Esq, PhD, MD said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:01

    Thanks, RB. My SS storm trooper grade school teacher never taught me to spell.

  22. FlipYrWhig said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:01

    Um, strict racial quota system in German universities?

  23. J— said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:02

    The best line in the book jacket by far is:

    That one cracked up, but for some reason this phrase:

    The Nazis led the world in organic farming…

    cracked me up just a little bit more.

    I just want to read the acknowledgments and notes. No intro, no chapters, just the acknowledgments and notes. I’ll see if the local pinko bookstore has it so I can go over them in one of their comfy chairs, ’cause ain’t no way I’m paying $27.95 for that.

  24. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:05

    Oi! Your cat walked across your keyboard.

    Hello?

  25. Gundamhead said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:05

    “The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.”

    What ever you say, Doughy. I for one can’t wait for president Guiliani and Grand Marshall Podhoretz to defeat Femi-Teacho-Fascism.

    You are going to do giant chapter by chapter take down of this thing, right? Please? I mean, how could you pass this up?

  26. Principal Blackman said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:06

    Professor Pantload is gonna ’splain how every eminent historian of the past 60 years is wrong and he’s the only one who’s right?

    Before, I wondered if this was the first mainstream conservative book to push the “Hitler was a leftist!” bit of conservative stupidity. As far as I know, it is (though I’m willing to be corrected on that point), and it looks like it’s doing so with all the intellectual heft that argument carries (“The name of the party was the National Socialist Workers Party–it says “socialist right in the name! They’re commies!”). In a sense, this is an interesting step for the wingnuts as its fringe arguments and alternate reality erupt from Greater Wingnutia and Conservapedia and into the mainstream. I only hope somebody gets an actual historian to review it.

  27. Flying Fox said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:06

    Rev. Bradley, the bit about Hitler being of Jewish descent is a myth. He feared it and investigated it himself repeatedly. After the war others investigated further. His family tree was not well maintained and there were several people with names similar to Hitler spelled various ways who may or may not have been related to the big Adolf, and some were Jews, hence the rumor/myth.

  28. The Hon. Dr. St. Rev. Bradley S. Rocket, Esq, PhD, MD said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:07

    He feared it and investigated it himself repeatedly.

    You know who else likes doing research? COLLEGE PROFESSORS!!!! THE PLOT THICKENS!!!!

  29. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:08

    Ahh! Censorship by the SadlyFascists!

  30. Jen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:09

    Gracious, I have sent my son off to first grade without even verifying the teacher’s anti-liberal-fascist credentials. Female? Check. Grade-school? Check. I don’t know where she got her degree from, but I don’t like these odds.

    I hope he writes a sequel on rehabilitation and reprogramming.

  31. bpower said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:11

    I dont know about you guys but when asked “What are the main attributes of a fascist?” the first thing that usually springs to my mind is their devotion to top quality health care free at the point of distribution.

  32. Sarcastro said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:12

    Contrary to what most people think, the Maoist Chinese are ardent Republicans (hence the term “People’s Republic”).

  33. Jen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:15

    Oh, that was funny, Sarcastro, and I do miss The Tick. I wonder if you can get him on DVD. Probably. You can get “2 and a Half Men” on DVD, which is just a headscratcher if you ask me.

  34. dBa said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:17

    Chapters that didn’t make the cut:

    11. Liberal Fascism and Auto Mechanics: Why You Shouldn’t Puchase Fascist Metric Sockets.

    12. Liberal Fascists Role in Pet Care: Corporate Fascist Profits and Pet Poo Baggies.

    13.Liberal Fascism and Christmas: How the Fascists Grinches Stole Christmas

    14. Fascism and Anti-Fascism: How Using the Term Fascism Makes it All True.

    15: Liberal Fascism and Dating: Guide to Nailing Your BFF Jill.

  35. fish said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:18

    The Introduction appears to be a conversation with himself.

  36. ploeg said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:19

    His family tree was not well maintained…

    That’s kind of an oblique insult, isn’t it? Well, Hitler did come from a mountainous backwater, and he was a meth junkie.

  37. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:25

    Hello? Am I the only one seeing the strikethrough on this page?

  38. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:25

    Just reading the table of contents made me angry, which is what the publisher wants. I think this is just another screed in the manner of A Coulter. Only longer. Imagine calling FDR a Fascist! Does he even DEFINE the word at the beginning of the book?

  39. redacted gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:30

    Why is everyone complaining? This amount of comedy is a bargain at $27.95!

    If you can wait until January, you’ll be able to pick it up for $1.98.

    I’d rather spend it on a couple song downloads myself.

  40. fred said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:30

    Can’t wait: will Godwin’s Law be mentioned in the Notes?

  41. TR said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:32

    Um, strict racial quota system in German universities?

    Yes, you see, the Nazis used strict racial quotas to keep all non-Aryans out of the university, while liberals use no quotas, but diversity efforts to keep more than just Aryans in the university, and therefore John F. Kennedy is Heinrich Himmler.

    Or something like that. You apparently need a degree from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College to follow Jonah’s deft logic.

  42. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:32

    I wonder who wrote it for him? Not a female school teacher.

  43. redacted gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:33

    Hello? Am I the only one seeing the strikethrough on this page?

    Nope. Oops, I meant to say ‘nope’. Damn, what I really wanted to say was ‘nope’. sigh

  44. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:33

    Grade school must have been Hell for teh Doughboy.

  45. TR said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:33

    I love the deep thinking that says, hey, the Nazis called themselves “National Socialists,” so they must have been on the left!

    And East Germany’s official name was the Democratic Republic of Germany, so there’s just no way they were really communists!

    It’s right there in black and white, people!

  46. David Robinson said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:34

    Fozzetti,
    I think you’re right. It’s exactly Ann Coulter’s shtick with extra flop sweat.

  47. TR said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:34

    Grade school must have been Hell for teh Doughboy.

    Doubt it. His mind still seems to be at that level, so it must have been alright for him.

  48. pedestrian said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:35

    Now, this is liberal fascism!

    WEST NEWBURY, Mass.— The mother of a 16-year-old West Newbury teen says her son’s civil rights were violated after he was arrested on drug charges when officials saw what they thought was a swastika on his notebook.

    After they spotted the sketch, they searched Bobby DeLotto’s bag looking for more swastikas, but instead found what police initially thought were methamphetamines in a small zippered pocket.

    They arrested and handcuffed DeLotta, interrogated him without his parents there, and sent him to a Lawrence jail.

    The pills turned out to be over-the-counter-diet pills, and now DeLotta is suing the town, the police department and school officials.

    Town officials are declining to comment on the case.

  49. The Dominion of Canada said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:35

    ….And the added insult of the cover price still being higher in Canada.

  50. Estudant d'Histoire said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:38

    Someone needs to mention Franco. I mean, he’s the Fascist that actually pulled it off, and settled down to a nice quiet life of Catholicism and killing people.

  51. tigrismus said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:38

    Hitler was the kind of “strict vegetarian” who would eat sausages every now and then, i.e.not; he was an off-and-on meat avoider because he had gastric problems. Think the bean scene in Blazing Saddles.

  52. linda said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:40

    wow. a doubleday imprint.

  53. TR said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:47

    wow. a doubleday imprint.

    I guess they got tired of publishing real authors.

    Real authors whom, I’d presume, won’t be rushing to sign up with the press and have their names alongside the esteemed Mr. Goldberg’s in the catalog.

  54. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:48

    The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

    I’ve hated those people ever since they started carrying their zyklon b cannisters in those fucking Louis Vuitton knock-offs.

  55. MrWonderful said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:55

    Oh shut up, Jonah. You fucking fascist.

  56. actor212 said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:55

    I’m guessing Fudgie simply lifted a cheap translation of “Mein Kampf” and pasted it into a Word document that generates random placements of the word “liberal” throughout.

  57. Nimrod Gently said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:56

    Isn’t it common knowledge by now that Hitler wasn’t really a vegetarian, just a bit of a health nut with weak digestion?

  58. FlipYrWhig said,

    December 17, 2007 at 18:59

    If what Goldberg says is true, we’re in for the fight of our lives. Islamofascists, feh, yesterday’s problem. I’m only going to back a presidential candidate with a comprehensive plan to defeat the Fasciofascists!

  59. Chris Moorehead said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:01

    I seem to recall that the “guaranteed jobs” mentioned by Jonah tended to be of the “cannon fodder on the Eastern Front” variety. Though, to be fair, they probably DID come with free health care…

  60. bob said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:08

    Why, oh why on earth are these people incapable of understanding that 2+2 does not equal the square root of eleventy seven divided by the GNP of Mississippi?

  61. Lesly said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:10

    Before, I wondered if this was the first mainstream conservative book to push the “Hitler was a leftist!” bit of conservative stupidity.

    Sadly, it isn’t. Ran into a neocon who swore everything evil in the world originated with leftist ideology. Plato was a liberal, Hitler was a liberal, etc., etc. He went on and on about how he wished Jews would wake up to the fact that liberal ideology is responsible for 6 million deaths.

    His sources? Other neoconservatives and liberal flunkies. Old Pantload is catching on, disseminating the same ideas for conservative consumers with lower IQs.

  62. Candy said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:16

    Am I hallucinating or is everything really in strike out mode? It’s creepin’ me out, mon.

  63. Simba B said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:20

    They misprinted his biography snippet. It should read:

    Those wishing to learn more about Jonah Goldberg and his works should visit the Google search engine using keyword “doughy pantload” or “doughbob loadpants”.

  64. ManOnBlog said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:20

    Good Lord! By the time I got to the end of the TOC, the entry for “Fascism” in my personal meat computer had become hopelessly scrambled.

    Perhaps the intended effect?

    .

  65. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:22

    I see the all-strike format if I use IE. Maybe this’ll help.

  66. KiwiHopeful said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:23

    Jonah’s plan:

    1. Be born.
    2. Write a book calling everyone ‘fascists.’
    3. ?
    4. PROFIT!

  67. TR said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:26

    I can’t wait to see Jonah’s explanation for why that liberal fascist FDR led the worldwide crusade against the Third Reich.

    I bet he was jealous because Hitler was stealing all the fascist thunder.

  68. jimmydean said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:27

    I know I’m just going on the TOC (I’m sure the historical analysis in the text is so very well researched and detailed), but how can “the birth of liberal fascism” occur with Wilson if “the father of fascism” didn’t come to power until 1922? I don’t think Jonah understands parenting.

  69. Lesley said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:30

    Do these striking parallels mean that today’s liberals are genocidal maniacs intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order? Not at all.

    Not at all but bwahaha, I thought I’d toss the idea out there anyway.

    “Jonah, your brain is like the four headed, man-eating haddock fish beast of Aberdeen”
    “In what way? ”
    “It doesn’t exist “

  70. DAS said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:31

    I love the examples in the jacket cover — DuBois, Berlin. Talk about a dog-whistle blowing “Blacks and Jews are fascists” to the base.

    *

    So Wilson was a prick and some of the early birth control types were racist assholes. Does that make liberalism fascism? By that standard, all those dixiecrats who went GOP make the GOP a bastion of racist hatred, eh?

    As a moonbat nut myself, I certainly believe that it says a lot about you who your friends are — if your friends stand to profit from what you propose, that does say something. But the right wing’s abuse of the genetic fallacy is getting a bit ridiculous: just because some liberals were really fascist pricks at heart doesn’t mean liberalism is a fascist plot. And, nu?, when wingnuts start going on about the gay agenda and liberalism as an ideology/”ism”, considering their support of a religious agenda and religious ideology, it just seems like so much projection, don’t it?

  71. Slim Tyranny said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:33

    I like how his book is going to rail against so-called “liberal racism”, and Jonah is a contributing editor to the National Review. A little taste of National Review’s history on questions of race and politics (needless to say, apartheid got a big thumbs up):

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2487

    The National Review’s support for racism traces back to its founding in the mid-’50s. A 1957 editorial titled ”Why the South Must Prevail” (8/24/57) asked ”whether the white community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas where it does not predominate numerically?” Citing the ”cultural superiority of white over Negro” and ”civilized standards” National Review editors answered, ”Yes—the white community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race.”

    Similarly, the magazine supported apartheid South Africa’s white minority rule (4/23/60): ”The whites are entitled, we believe, to preeminence in South Africa.” When Nelson Mandela and other ANC leaders were sentenced to life in prison in South Africa, National Review editors mocked critics of the verdicts (6/30/64): ”The South African courts have sentenced a batch of admitted terrorists to life in the penitentiary, and you would think the court had just finished barbecuing St. Joan, to hear the howls from the liberal press.”

    Over the years many leading eugenicists and ”scientific” racists have been warmly received by National Review. In a positive review of Race, Evolution, and Behavior, a 1994 book by Philippe Rushton, the current Pioneer Fund president, reviewer Mark Snyderman eagerly recounted the book’s ”ambitious” and ”fearless” thesis (9/12/94): ”Orientals are more intelligent, have larger brains for their body size, have smaller genitalia, have less sex drive, are less fecund, work harder and are more readily socialized than Caucasians; and Caucasians on average bear the same relationship to blacks.” (To be fair, this kooky book also got a thumbs-up from New York Times science writer Malcolm Browne—10/16/94. See Extra! Update, 12/94).

    National Review tapped Rushton to write a review of a new edition of The Mismeasure of Man, Stephen Jay Gould’s critique of eugenics—resulting in a predictable pan (9/15/97). And when Gould died in 2002, the magazine called on Steve Sailer (5/22/02) to do some grave-spitting.

  72. porndog said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:34

    No, really, the LA times features this schlemiel? LAT, you just lost a pantload of credibility.

  73. over_educated said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:36

    I assume every entry is crossed out because NR’s lawyers are going after SN! for copyright violation…

  74. Rob Wagner said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:37

    Jonah Goldberg wasn’t making any money as a half-assed Los Angeles Times columnist and was probably more than a little miffed that nobody paid attention to him. So in a “me-me-me” moment he pulled a page from the Ann Coulter playbook to make a buck and say nasty things about those nice little old ladies who gave me the Weekly Reader every day at my elementary school. JFK-loving groupies, yes. Fascists, no!

  75. Lesley said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:39

    Jonah writes for the National Review.

    Hitler ran the National Socialists.

    Clearly Jonah is the fascist here.

  76. sophronia said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:42

    I know someone in the VRWC farmed this one out to Jonah just so all the conservatives would have an official reason to call their opponents fascists all the time, but reading that table of contents, I can’t believe that even the chunderheads at National Review will be able to take this thing seriously.

  77. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:57

    Oh, I get it. the S,N! Server is trying to protect us from teh stoopid that is Jonah the Whale.

    Thank you S,N!S!

  78. El Cid said,

    December 17, 2007 at 19:58

    OMIGOD!!!! WE LOST WWII AND THE BASTARDS DIDN’T EVEN TELL US!!!!!

  79. Bennett said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:03

    John Dewey was a fascist? Dewey? Dewey? Has Jonah read even one word of Dewey?

  80. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:04

    Spaghetti.

  81. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:06

    Strikeout……….!

    Strikeout……….?

  82. Simba B said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:10

    Fuck off Kevin.

    Yes, we know it’s you.

    The obsessive number of comments and abuse of the word ‘hippies’ gave you away.

  83. Candy said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:11

    The strikeout cannot be stopped, ittdgy. Aieeee!!!!! And I do mean IE. I don’t think it’s affecting firefox users.

  84. piotr said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:11

    When people from the right wing conclude, for example, that liberal are racists, I always wonder: is it a bad thing? I mean, for them. Perhaps, they think “liberals are not so bad, like us, they are racists”.

    By the way, Nazis introduced divided highways. Was Eisenhower a Nazi?

    Liberal conspiracy in Europe: Jonah’s opus is offered for 20.99 EUR, and the latest Krugman for 17.49 EUR from Amazon.eu. (However, to get free shipping, you must order 20 EUR, so with Krugman you have to order something else, and you pay more).

  85. owlbear1 said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:11

    You’d think at some point Jonah’s fans would get tired of being set up as ignorant fucks.

  86. Michael said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:13

    Am I hallucinating or is everything really in strike out mode? It’s creepin’ me out, mon.

    I think it’s fairly obvious…Sadly No! is obviously a bunch of fascists who are trying to suppress all the comments making fun of Dr. Loadpants.

    TEH DURTY FASICTS!!1!

  87. Dhalgren said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:14

    One word: Projection.

    Another word: Half.com

    Let’s see how long it takes for this book to end up there.

  88. norbizness said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:14

    I would love to see a remake of that one scene in Pulp Fiction, where Samuel L. Jackson threatens Goldberg with the taunt “Say ‘fascist’ again! I double dare you, motherfucker!”

    P.S. Fascist. Fascist fascist fascist.

  89. zsa said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:14

    Well, someone has to write the palpably false agitprop to distract us all while the corporate interests continue to control both the country and the political parties.

    Think of it like this … when two people visit your house and one of them pinches out a big steaming turd smack in the middle of the dining room table, you probably won’t notice the other guy stealing your wallet from the nightstand.

  90. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:15

    best comment thread ever!

  91. Thers said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:15

    At least the bit about “surprising research” is likely to be true…

    Remember how we used to laugh at all those months of Corner posts from abroad, where Jonah would describe going from one German archive to another, digging into the primary source material, blegging for help with difficult translations?

    I mean, like, you remember that, right?

  92. Adolf said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:15

    Guten Tag, meine Damen und Herren!

  93. Dhalgren said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:16

    – — —

  94. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:16

    Does anyone else think Jonah got paid by the word?

    Specifically, the word “fascism.

  95. Slim Tyranny said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:17

    I demand more spaghetti!

  96. Adolf said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:17

    Die Tatsache ist you like me…you really like me!

  97. Slim Tyranny said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:18

    I bet “fascism” pops up a lot in his “book.” — almost as many times as the words “stop the rebellious Negro” appeared in the National Review publications of the 1950s and 1960s.

  98. Thers said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:19

    Old Pantload is catching on, disseminating the same ideas for conservative consumers with lower IQs.

    Now, the concept of conservatives dumber than Jonah — that’s a frightening thought…

  99. g said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:22

    An elf? Did Megan give it to you?

  100. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:22

    owlbear1 said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:11

    You’d think at some point Jonah’s fans would get tired of being set up as ignorant fucks.

    You’d think that only if you didn’t know that they are ignorant fucks.

    P.S. The word “fans” implies that there is another one, besides Lucianne.

  101. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:23

    I demand more spaghetti!

    Hey, wait a minute…fascists ate spaghetti too!

  102. DocAmazing! said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:23

    Maybe I’m just picking nits (finding dumb errors in a book like this is redundant, to say the least), but the Table of Contents claims Mussolini as the “Father of Fascism”, but seems to credit Woodrow Wilson with the genesis of “Liberal Fascism”–which seems odd, because Wilson’s reign was a good decade *before* Mussolini’s organizing.

    You know, that strikeout type is very compelling. I bet they start doing it over at Ace o’ Spades any day now.

  103. Snorghagen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:24

    This could be the most shocking historical revelation since Lyndon LaRouche proved that Queen Elizabeth was behind the Colombian drug cartels!

    Just reading the table of contents made me angry, which is what the publisher wants. I think this is just another screed in the manner of A Coulter.

    That may be the intent, but I think that this will evoke a lot more laughter than anger.

  104. tata said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:25

    Accusing libs of treason is so 2004.

  105. Gundamhead said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:27

    But, Slim Tyranny that stuff is different. None of those National Review articles were about the discrimination against dumb, lazy, talentless white male propaganda hacks. THAT’S the Liberal racism Jonah’s so terrified of!

  106. fred said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:30

    The strikeout seems to be related to a cluster of <del> tags at the article’s permalink, some of them strangely nested. Or maybe it’s a sign that it’s time for everyone to switch to Firefox.

  107. jimmydean said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:32

    Aha! Wilson and Mussolini are BOTH fathers of fascism! Fascism has two daddies! It must be part of the gay agenda!

  108. a different brad said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:32

    Slight problems on my end, but knock on wood the rest should be with y’all by the end of the week.

  109. struckout IE using gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:33

    You’d think at some point Jonah’s fans would get tired of being set up as ignorant fucks.

    You’d think that his employers and publishers would get tired of it too.

  110. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:36

    Four hundred pages of “I know you are, but what am I”, by Lucianne Goldberg’s big fat baby boy.

    Time to change the diaper!

  111. Leonard Pierce said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:38

    On the one hand, yes, Himmler believed in animal rights. But on the other hand, he sported a wingnut face mullet! So I don’t know WHAT to think.

  112. DocAmazing! said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:40

    Jimmydean–

    That’s the Pink Triangle fascism that the Jesus freaks are always on about–that the Nazi Party was a gay movement (apparently, they are unaware of the fate of Ernst Rohm, but that’s unsurprising).

    I guess those Tom of Finland illustrations were supposed to have been recruiting posters, ten years too late. (There’s that unidirectional-passage-of-time problem again!)

  113. del said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:40

    </del>
    Is that fixed?

  114. del said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:41

    Guess not

  115. DocAmazing! said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:41

    not so much

  116. Matt T. said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:42

    Accusing libs of treason is so 2004.

    Well, to be fair, Jonah’s book has been “just about to be released” for quite a while now. Been at least two years, right? We should probably count our blessings his mom was able to persuade him to drop the whole “Three-Term Presidency: Why The Clenis Will Kill Us All” book he was working on.

  117. a different brad said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:42

    Oh, and you forgot to include the back cover with blurbs by the author of the Bell Curve, Newt Gingrich, and Tom Wolfe. Tsktsk.

  118. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:45

    which chapter has the discussion of the well known fact that there’s a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

  119. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:46

    The 1960s: Fascism Takes to the Streets

    I’m itching to see which streets are involved. Maybe one of the routes into Montgomery’d make the cut.

  120. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:46

    Firefox has TWO F’S!! Fascism starts with an F!

    Why are you trying to convert me to Fascism??!

  121. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:48

    “Fascism has two daddies!”

    ok this one made me laugh out loud.

  122. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:49

    Why are you trying to convert me to Fascism??!

    That’s my ninja way. Believe it!

  123. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:52

    DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU?

  124. Arky - Chuthuhlusexual said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:53

    Or perhaps the NeverEndingStrikeOut Strike is meant to signal how JG has once again “Struck Out” in his attempt not to be a big fat jackass.

  125. moondancer said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:59

    So in the 70′s when I marched against Nixons nastiness, he was the liberal intellectual and I was the jackboot fascist? Oops, my bad. I’ll be going out to the garage to throw Molotov cocktails at myself.

  126. Galactic Dustbin said,

    December 17, 2007 at 20:59

    He was indeed paid by the word, so most of the book will have passages like:

    “The American Liberal is very much like fascists. They are both very very very very very bad and not good. “

  127. porndog said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:04

    Please put up a page of this screed a day to furnish my minumum daily allowance of hootz!

  128. MzNicky said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:05

    I don’t see any strikeout stuff, and I’m using Safari. Just thought I’d throw that in. Oh, and DoughtyPantLoad is a doody-head. Yes, I know, strong words indeed.

  129. struckout IE using gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:07

    Arky, when your struck out, JG looks the same as JC. It makes a difference…

  130. struckout IE using gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:11

    This feels like a low level demonstration of how multiple universes (universi?) can exist and function in the same space. I am stuck in the struck dimension.

  131. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:14

    Maybe we should all go on strike, gbear.

  132. Legalize said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:15

    Any word yet on how many Hitlery KKKlinton doodles populate the book? I’ve got an over-under going at my office.

  133. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:16

    I don’t see any strikeout stuff, and I’m using Safari.

    Hitler used Safari.

  134. SamFromUtah said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:24

    Hitler used Safari.

    I don’t think Hitler did – it was Erwin Rommel.

  135. Seanly said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:24

    I love how everything has a strike-out. Strike out fascism! Strike out Nice Guys!

    Good question about how did Jonah get 400+ pages.

  136. MzNicky said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:27

    Kathleen: Almost every comment on this thread is making me laugh out loud, or at least smile real big. Thanks S,N — I needed that!

    Man, I can’t wait for the Sadly No reviews of this pile of horseshit. It’ll be a weeks-long laff riot!

  137. NobodySpecial said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:30

    Has all the content of Nicole Richie’s cookbook, it does.

  138. MzNicky said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:30

    Righteous Bubba: Plus I’m a vegetarian. Case closed.

  139. norbizness said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:31

    Seanly: 28-point font and triple-spacing. Use of not just Simpsons quotes but entire episode transcripts.

  140. Bigby said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:33

    Why would fascist FDR and communist Joe Stalin fight liberal socialist fascist
    Hitler? Wouldn’t they all just team up and Liberal Fascistify us all forever and
    ever? Or did the Commie-Nazis really *want* to steal all the Unicef pennies
    but were thwarted by Tailgunner Joe, John Wayne and Ronald Reagan?

  141. norbizness said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:33

    Fascism 1979: Yacht Rockin’ Like There’s No Tomorrow.

  142. g said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:34

    It doesn’t feel any different to be posting in strikeouts, but it should.

  143. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:35

    John Gacy was fat and drank liquor.

    Do these striking parallels mean that Jonah Goldberg is a homicidal maniac, intent on torturing boys to death and hiding them in a crawlspace under his house? Not at all. Yet it is hard to deny that yadda yadda yadda.

  144. Tim (the other one) said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:36

    Hi, Chad Hitler here..

    What, why are you all walking away from me ??

  145. a different brad said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:36

    If bradrocket is around he should check his email.

  146. B Smith said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:37

    He obviously read “Bobos in Paradise” and hit on the novel concept that the phrase “bohemian bourgeois” has two words that appear to be in direct contrast to each other… in the… SAME… phrase…. Ooohhh, that David Brooks! He so smahht! I’m smahht! Just like Fredo…

    He then spent 6 years thinking and researching on how to make a fast buck ala Mr. Brooks. Meanwhile during that time, the words “liberal” and “Islamofascism” have been bouncing around the ether ad nauseum. The great concordance occurred when the only two marbles in his brain finally collided and he put those two words together. It appears his editor did a global search and replace and dropped the “Islamo.” Who can be sure though?

  147. El Cid said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:37

    Like I posted at Señor Yglesias’, there were others who thought FDR was a fascist.

    Social Fascism

    Wikipedia

    Social fascism was a theory supported by the Communist International (Comintern) during the late 1920s and early 1930s, which stated that social democracy was a variant of fascism.

    At the time, the leaders of the Comintern, such as Joseph Stalin and Rajani Palme Dutt, argued that capitalist society had entered the “Third Period” in which a working class revolution was imminent, but could be prevented by social democrats and fascist forces.

    The term “social fascist” was used pejoratively to describe social democratic parties, anti-Comintern socialist parties and dissenters within Comintern affiliates throughout the interwar period.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascism

    But then, Stalin lived in a pre-9/11 era.

  148. Matt Weiner said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:39

    I will bet an Official Matt Weiner Certificate of Excellence that “Irving Berlin praised Mussolini in song” refers to extra lyrics that P.G. Wodehouse (no liberal) wrote for “You’re the Top,” which was by Cole Porter anyway. If I’m wrong, leave a comment at my blog to collect your certificate. (If I’m right, leave a comment anyway.)

  149. marc said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:39

    Jonah Goldberg is a genius. He is correct in stating that, except for Krystalnacht and stuff like that, touchy-feely liberal ideology is exactly like that of a hyperauthoritarian autocracy.

    If you people are insinuating that it is possible for an ignorant moron to get a high profile job just because of his parentage, I defy you to find another example.

    Also, Jonah’s book is over 400 pages long. It’s not like one could just spout off unsupported opinions and unbelievable bullshit for that many pages. Therefore, it must be diligently researched and well documented, with references to numerous reputable sources.

  150. Clutch414 said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:40

    Why is all text from the permalink on down “strikethrough”?

  151. norbizness said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:43

    Not only that, Matt, but Joe Esposito wrote this song for Pol Pot.

  152. norbizness said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:43

    Sweep the leg and dispossess the urban proletariat!

  153. “Hitler Was a Vegetarian”–Now in Print « Wintry Smile said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:44

    [...] book.  Whether or not you’ve previously heard of this clusterfuck, you should check out pictures of its back-flap and chapter [...]

  154. marc said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:44

    Righteous Bubba,

    Don’t they usually refer to him as John Wayne Gacy? Fitting, as John Wayne was a bit of a raving right-wing nut…

  155. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:44

    I will bet an Official Matt Weiner Certificate of Excellence that “Irving Berlin praised Mussolini in song” refers to extra lyrics that P.G. Wodehouse (no liberal) wrote for “You’re the Top,” which was by Cole Porter anyway.

    Jonah responds to email. You could ask him what’s meant.

  156. Tim (the other one) said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:47

    “Yacht Rockin’ Like There’s No Tomorrow.”

    Amazing, first reference to Yacht Rock since my son hipped me. Funny.

  157. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:48

    Now you fascists want us to switch to Safari?!

    well. Guess who went on safair once? Mussolini!

    stop trying to make me become a fascist.

  158. struckout IE using gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:48

    Clutch, you are struck because you are stuck using IE. We who use IE are stuck being struck.

    Where as Jonah is stuck being teh suck.

  159. Tim (the other one) said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:49

    “Sweep the leg”

    Cobra Kai, in the house !

  160. agum said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:49

    Everyone knows the real 1960s fascists were the ones on the receiving end of fire hoses.

  161. a certain Christmas elf said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:52

    Having the book open in front of me, I can say Matt Weiner is absolutely correct. “You’re the Top” is quoted at the beginning of the first chapter, attributed to Cole Porter. Irving Berlin is, however, not in the index, and thus likely not in the book, apart from the never corrected jacket copy.
    Full points to MW.

  162. blah blah blah gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:54

    In fact, I am struck by how stuck in teh suck he is.

  163. cleek » Jonah Goldberg, Idiot said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:55

    [...] Jonah Goldberg, Idiot Filed under: Uncategorized — cleek @ 3:52 pm [...]

  164. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:55

    It’s a pity D’ohboy didn’t wear a black low-cut cocktail dress on the cover of the book.
    (Thank goodness I’m not getting strickthrus)

  165. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:55

    I can say Matt Weiner is absolutely correct. “You’re the Top” is quoted at the beginning of the first chapter, attributed to Cole Porter. Irving Berlin is, however, not in the index, and thus likely not in the book, apart from the never corrected jacket copy.

    Hilarious!

    I am going out on a limb here. This will not be the only error.

  166. Trilateral Chairman said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:56

    Do these striking parallels mean that today’s liberals are genocidal maniacs intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order? Not at all.

    I love this part, because it essentially makes his argument pointless.
    Liberals are just like fascists, except for the bad part!

    I envision the typical interview going something like this:

    Interviewer: So liberals are fascists?
    Pantload: Yeppers.
    Interviewer: But they haven’t tried to take over the world or exterminate the Jews.
    Pantload: They’re not THAT sort of fascist. Duh. I say that right from the beginning: they’re not going to try anything of the sort. But they are for health care, pensions for the elderly, and the like.
    Interviewer: So they’re fascists with the most murderous and tyrannical bits taken out?
    Jonah: Yes.
    Interviewer: Uh, then who cares?
    Jonah: Well, they’re fascists. Fascists fascists fascists. I’m surprised at you.

    I: So liberals are fascists?
    J: More or less, yes.
    I: But they haven’t carried out mass genocide or tried to take over the world.
    J: Of course not. That’s not the sort of fascism I’m

    I: So what’s so bad about it?
    J: Well, it’s fascism.

  167. Trilateral Chairman said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:56

    Argh. Scrap the stuff that begins with I: and J:. Forgive me; I share an editor with the Doughy Pantload.

  168. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:59

    My Nom du’Internet has been stolen by a troll! I feel so complimented!

  169. tigrismus said,

    December 17, 2007 at 21:59

    Well-known liberal leader Irving Berlin on Mussolini

  170. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:01

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott/2004/10/index.html

    Not Okay

    “John Kerry is a sphincter. Okay, that’s a bit juvenile.”
    –Jonah Goldberg, NRO.

    “I suppose in John Kerry’s world good diplomacy lets the boys in the bar finish raping the girl for fear of causing a fuss. Okay, that was unfair.”
    –Jonah Goldberg, NRO.

    This slimeball rhetorical device should become known as the Jonah Goldberg Limited Takeback, in which you assert something vulgar and provocative, then acknowledge you stepped over the line without withdrawing the original slur. Sort of like spitting at someone, then saying, “Gee, I guess my saliva went a little too far.”

  171. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:02

    Having the book open in front of me, I can say Matt Weiner is absolutely correct.

    Such detail and care!

  172. MzNicky said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:02

    gbear: Don’t you have some work to do, young lady?

  173. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:02

    “Slim Tyranny”: With all the fascism words popping, perhaps the book itself has pop-ups? This is getting better and better.

  174. El Cid said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:02

    Also, does Doughbob know that there already was a book about “Friendly Fascism”?

    Friendly Fascism
    Wikipedia

    In the book Friendly Fascism in 1980, Gross argues the rise of a form of fascistic thought and social politics in late 20th century America. Gross states…that the power elite that comprises the corporate, governmental and military superstructure of the country is increasingly inclined to employ every element in their formidable arsenal of ‘friendly persuasion’ to win the hearts and minds of ordinary Americans, through what Gross refers to as friendly fascism.

    Friendly fascism portrays two conflicting trends in the United States and other countries of the so-called “free world.”

    * The first is a slow and powerful drift toward greater concentration of power and wealth in a repressive Big Business-Big Government partnership. This drift leads down the road toward a new and subtly manipulative form of corporatist serfdom.

    * The other is a slower and less powerful tendency for individuals and groups to seek greater participation in decisions affecting themselves and others. This trend goes beyond mere reaction to authoritarianism.

    The phrase “friendly fascism” helps distinguish this possible future from the patently vicious corporatism of classic fascism in the past of Germany, Italy and Japan. It also contrasts with the friendly present of the dependent fascisms propped up by the U.S. government in El Salvador, Haiti, Argentina, Chile, South Korea, the Philippines and elsewhere.

    Gross offers faint hope of averting neofascism. He does prescribe raising aspirations: setting forth clear lofty goals, broad enough to embrace a great majority. But expectations? He calls for realism — to reduce frustration and apathetic withdrawal. Gross asserts that help from insiders is both essential and available.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertram_Myron_Gross

    But then, my billion dollar foundation affords me the luxury of Google, and few Uh-merkans have this luxury in the Rooseveltian fascism we suffered up until Ronald Reagan the First and Ronald Reagan The Lesser (Bush Jr.) slew the beast.

  175. gbear said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:04

    Oh mom! Work is boring! (sigh)

  176. Incontinentia Buttocks said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:06

    Any chance that the appearance of this book will awake The Editors from their slumber and get The Poorman back online?

  177. El Cid said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:06

    And of course Irving Berlin supported fascism — he was, after all, the capital city of Fascist Germany!!! What choice did he have?

  178. Matt Weiner said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:07

    Having the book open in front of me, I can say Matt Weiner is absolutely correct.

    w00t! Official Matt Weiner Certificate of Excellence for me!

  179. Kathleen said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:08

    “MzNicky said,
    Kathleen: Almost every comment on this thread is making me laugh out loud, “

    me too. that one was just particularly funny. :)

  180. kth said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:10

    Cue Ross Douthat to whine about the mean MSM not reviewing Jonah’s serious and important book (as he did with Ramesh Ponnuru’s equally vile and lunatic The Party Of Death).

  181. a certain Christmas elf said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:12

    kth-
    I’ve actually been sort of asked to review it for Teh Guardian Online, which is to say if I actually write it, it’ll likely go up.
    Heehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.

  182. Crooked Timber » » Fascism, Fascism, Fascism said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:17

    [...] Fascist Sadly, No!, a fascist look inside fascist Jonah Goldberg’s fascist forthcoming fascist book. [...]

  183. The Name Game said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:17

    Jonah Jonah bonobo
    Banana-panta loadio
    Fee-fi-mo-monah
    Jonah!

  184. Fozzetti said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:18

    Will the ‘Lib-Fascists’ author go on Colbert and/or Stewart to tout his book? More fun to look forward to. (I use Camino, and no strike-thrus)

  185. The Name Game said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:21

    Okay, that was really juvenile and stupid.

  186. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:21

    Hitler was the father of the Macintosh computer.

  187. MzNicky said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:22

    Fozzetti: Generalissimo Francisco Franco drove an El Camino.

  188. anon said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:23

    I loved the “cover by keenan” line on the book jacket. Nice way to say “FU Tibor!”

  189. Gary Ruppert said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:26

    The fact is, liberals are just like Hitler, but worse, because they hide it.

  190. julia said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:29

    Fascism didn’t take to the streets until twenty-something years after the rise of Hitler and Mussolini?

    Perhaps all that intensive research should have included an Indiana Jones movie.

  191. zsa said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:29

    It’s seems like a comprehensive effort to convince us that white is black. It’s the logical next step after letting these dingbats use a term like “Islamofascism” as if it actually means something.

    Anything that seriously describes Adolf Hitler as “Man of the Left” … sweet aborted baby Jesus, that’s rich and flavorful ignorance.

    I’d be very interested (not to the point of actually purchasing this dog-loaf, but still interested) in seeing how the Spanish Civil War is presented. A tiff between the Fascist Liberals and the Liberal Fascists? Perhaps it never really happened at all.

  192. a certain Christmas elf said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:32

    Actually, if bradrocket or Gavin could remove my last post I’d appreciate it. I should be a little more discrete, probably.

  193. MzNicky said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:33

    Name Game: Uh, I’d bet $$ there’s never been a load in Doughy’s pants that in any way resembled a banana.

  194. Who They Can’t Outthink, The Ridicule : The Sundries Shack said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:36

    [...] on the historical cuddling between the left and fascism isn’t even out yet and already the leftist are having themselves a few nervous yuks. Shame they can’t be bothered to actually address the book on an intellectual level. Say what [...]

  195. nashtbrutusandshort said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:42

    No. The best line is “These assertions may sound strange to modern ears, but that is only because we have forgotten what fascism is.” Tell me this is not the most desperate qualification you have ever read. “This is the ONLY reason they sound strange! Ignore any other reasons you can think of. Please? C’mon. Be a mensch.” It practically stands on a corner with a cup in its hand and begs, for God’s sake.

  196. Smut Clyde said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:42

    Francisco Franco drove an El Camino.
    He would come for a pint at the Stud Palomino.
    Francisco Franco never got called an asshole!

  197. America’s Least Wanted « The Opinion Mill said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:43

    [...] it’s Jonah Goldberg’s long-unawaited summa moronalogica, Liberal Fascism. Sadly No has screen captures of the book nobody has been waiting for, except maybe Jonah’s mom and liberal bloggers, who [...]

  198. JC said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:44

    This is a hoax, right? I mean, that’s not really the book.

    Surely that’s not really the book.

  199. Kraz said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:46

    Swarthmore, eh? I thought they’d forgotten about the “Kremlin on the Crum”. I’m glad to hear we’re still considered a dangerous foe.

  200. Boy Called Sue said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:54

    Yeh facsism is just like that scene at the start of Episode III, where Obi-Wan Kenobi’s Eta-2 starfighter is covored in buzzdroids adn Anakin trys to smush them with his starfighter, btu 1 of tehm cralws over to Anakin’s starfighter and R2-D2 zaps it.

    Taht’s LIEberal fasicms rite their, and Jonah Goldberg is R2-D2 wiht the zaper!

    [/snark]

  201. Balloon Juice said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:55

    [...] Jonah Goldberg’s new book is that this whole “liberals are fascist” argument is going to morph from something [...]

  202. kenga said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:58

    I should be a little more discrete

    I’d try to be more discreet, instead.

  203. Typical Republican said,

    December 17, 2007 at 22:58

    I got nothin’ today.

    If I ever bring it up at all, I’m going to pretend that this book is a liberal plot to make conservatives look stupid. Same as I do for Mallard Fillmore and Thomas Sowell.

  204. Insufferable Grammarian said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:03

    “I should be a little more discrete.”

    “I’d try to be more discreet, instead.”

    Yes, I agree. Much less painful that way.

  205. Clambone said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:03

    But… but…

    Jonah used to know that Wodehouse wrote the Mussolini line in “You’re the Top”! He wrote a friggin’ Corner post about it:

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTJjMjIxMGM3YTA2MDM0ODA4MmY1MDU3ZThkNDU1MDE=

    And this nonsense still made it onto the book jacket!

  206. The Hulk said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:06

    Insufferable Grammarian said,
    December 17, 2007 at 23:03
    [...]

    Much less painful that way.

    HULK SMASH SENTENCE INTO FRAGMENT.

  207. islmfaoscist said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:12

    The modern heirs of this “friendly fascist” tradition include the NYT, the Democratic Party, the Ivy League professoriate, and the liberals of Hollywood.

    And what’s so tragic is that these modern heirs’ friendly fascist family farms are threatened today by the inheritance tax from reaping another bumper crop of Bobo Brooks, Steny Hoyer, ivy-league ivy, and Mel Gibson jeebus pr0n.

  208. r4d20 said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:13

    Interviewer: So liberals are fascists?
    Pantload: Yeppers.
    Interviewer: But they haven’t tried to take over the world or exterminate the Jews.
    Pantload: They’re not THAT sort of fascist. Duh. I say that right from the beginning: they’re not going to try anything of the sort. But they are for health care, pensions for the elderly, and the like.
    Interviewer: So they’re fascists with the most murderous and tyrannical bits taken out?
    Jonah: Yes.
    Interviewer: Uh, then who cares?
    Jonah: Well, they’re fascists. Fascists fascists fascists. I’m surprised at you.

    I: So liberals are fascists?
    J: More or less, yes.
    I: But they haven’t carried out mass genocide or tried to take over the world.
    J: Of course not. That’s not the sort of fascism I’m

    I: So what’s so bad about it?
    J: Well, it’s fascism.

    You took the words out of my mouth Mr. Chairman.

    LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS …. provided we assume “fascist” means something quite different that it ever did before.

  209. Goseph Gerbils said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:18

    Here’s yer problem with strikethrough – two “del” tags and only one closing “/del” tag:

    with a straight face?<del datetime=”2007-12-17T16:00:58+00:00″><del datetime=”2007-12-17T16:08:31+00:00″></del>

    I tried putting a closing </del> at the start of this comment, but it looks like it ain’t allowed.

    Does Jonah realize that during the Spanish Civil War the Soviet Union backed the Republican faction?

  210. zsa said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:19

    I’d bet $$ there’s never been a load in Doughy’s pants that in any way resembled a banana.

    I’m sorry, MzN, but was that metaphor really necessary? I’m not even sure what it means (and I sure as hell don’t want to know) and yet it makes me feel vaguely … unclean … simply by virtue of it having passed through my eyes.

  211. ManOnBlog said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:20

    “Johna Goldberg turns our preconceptions inside out”

    No shit.

  212. jack moss said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:30

    Typical.

    When liberals are exposed they insult.

    Truth is a bitch ain’t it.

    PS: Skip the insult.

  213. Batocchio said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:31

    My favorite part so far, apart from the Brown grad, is pointing out that the Nazis had strict racial quotas for college.

  214. Smut Clyde said,

    December 17, 2007 at 23:40

    I hold post-modernism responsible for this book
    OK, that was going too far.

  215. Principal Blackman said,

    December 18, 2007 at 0:04

    Is it just me or do those chapter titles sound like items from the fake Fox News crawl in that episode of The Simpsons? You know, the one that said “JFK posthumously switches to Republican party…Oil slicks found to keep seals smooth, supple…Do Democrats cause cancer?”

  216. a certain Christmas elf said,

    December 18, 2007 at 0:12

    Nownow. I’m busy being a certain Christmas elf. I don’t have time to proofread my comments.

  217. Kathleen said,

    December 18, 2007 at 0:19

    sooooooo… where does the Politics of Meaning come in?….

    or did that not actually make it into the final subtitle?

  218. Jeff R. said,

    December 18, 2007 at 0:21


    …has also written for
    The New Yorker

    He wrote exactly one “Talk of the Town” piece (about the media circus around his mother’s apartment when the Lewinsky tape was revealed). It’s not like he actually wrote an real article or anything.

  219. yo said,

    December 18, 2007 at 0:27

    thanks for pointing this book out. I’m going to read it. If you really wonder who’d buy it, why don’t you write one with the “real” story and see how many buy it.
    Sadly, you won’t bother because you know the answer.

  220. Jillian said,

    December 18, 2007 at 0:49

    Oh.

    My.

    God.

  221. a certain Christmas elf said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:03

    Ummm, check your facebook inbox in a few moments, jillian.

  222. GumbyAnne said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:14

    Am I the only one seeing a “strike through” over every single line of every comment? I am using internet explorer, which is a piece of poo sometimes, but I have never had this problem before.

    Even this commont is showing crossed out in the preview below.

    Wierd.

  223. Babe Ruth said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:21

    Arrgh, I’ve been struck out!

  224. Tom Hilton said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:24

    Whose idea was it to give Jonah Goldberg strike-through power over Sadly, No! comments?

    Or is it the Sadly, No! liberal super-fascists who are silencing not just disagreement but agreement as well?

  225. D. Sidhe said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:31

    The Tick, animated, is available on DVD, in two parts so far. The Tick vs Season One includes twelve of the first thirteen, missing Tick vs the Mole Men for murky legal reasons (clearly the fascists were involved here). The Tick vs Season Two offers 12 episodes from season two, I think it’s missing Alone Together but am too lazy to go look.

  226. Smut Clyde said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:47

    Do these striking parallels mean
    Those parallels are leaping out and striking again. But not to worry… the resemblance to cobras is a bluff. I repeat, parallels are not venomous. No-one has ever died from parallel-bite.

  227. PG said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:47

    I’m kind of excited to see that he finished it. Never thought this day would come. Gives me hope for my own laziness and procrastination. Maybe I just need the fear of having to repay an advance in order to get my writing done… except no one pays me for mine, yet.

  228. Delivery Boy said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:52

    Parallelogram for Mr. Euclid!

  229. zsa said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:54

    jack moss,

    You want to defend Jonah? Go right ahead. We wait for your well-reasoned arguments.

    If you can’t be bothered, perhaps you should go fuck yourself.

  230. Doctorb Science said,

    December 18, 2007 at 1:55

    The PG Wodehouse/Cole Porter hilarity aside, Irving Berlin totally did write a song which included the lyric “Mussolini’s on our side”.

    In “Ve Don’t Like It,” Irving Berlin presents a complaining Joseph Goebbels: “In Japan our hands are tied; Ve don’t like it. Mussolini’s on our side; Ve don’t like it.”

    Given that we know Doughy isn’t going to fact-check anything, ever, I’m wondering if someone punked him with either that lyric or the “You’re the Top” story. More to the point, I’m wondering how much ridiculously stupid stuff we could get him to say his future books.

  231. beccar said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:02

    “…it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.”

    Women with an education and want to share the joy of intelligent reasoning with a new generation?! In MY America?!?! Why, next thing you know them coloreds will be gettin’ all uppity and want to attend college, too!

  232. Doctorb Science said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:04

    Er, yeah, saw that the “Ve Don’t Like It” thing was already linked. Still though, I’m excited about trolling Doughbob.

  233. Smut Clyde said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:08

    Parallax View for Delivery Boy!

  234. Illuminancer said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:13

    Francisco Franco drove an El Camino.
    He would come for a pint at the Stud Palomino.
    Francisco Franco never got called an asshole!

    He is, however, still dead.

  235. The Heretik : Round ‘Em Up said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:13

    [...] just in: I am shocked, truly shocked to discover there are those who doubt The Great Truth: “The modern heirs of this “friendlier fascist” tradition include [...]

  236. Qetesh the Qaveat Qat said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:18

    I soooo want to read the Afterword. I mean, The Temptation of Conservatives, how exciting does that sound? Lots of illicit nookie, I have no doubt, and all sorts of sordid sloppy stuff.

  237. Kathleen said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:20

    it has over 50 pages of notes!! It must be scholarly!

  238. D. Aristophanes said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:23

    More missing chapters:

    11. Hippy Whale Song Albums … or Sonar Training for Pre-K U-Boaters?

    12. Liberal Co-Eds Who Wanted Nothing to Do with Me and Other Eva Braun-Types

    13. Everything You Thought You Knew About Imperial Stormtroopers Was Wrong (and Other Jedi Lies)

    14. First They Came for the Industrial Polluters …

    15. Liberal Fascism and the Desire to Make Public Transportation Run On Time

  239. Daphne Chyprious said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:38

    Testing, testing. Yes, it’s being composed with that automatic cross-out. Still easy to read, though, so I fail to see the point. Unless this is an exercise in ironic self-sabotage. You know, some fellow liberal demonstrating what Goldberg would LIKE to do were he able, except he couldn’t without making the other side’s argument about who is and who is not really a fascist for it.

  240. PhysioProf said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:41

    16. The 1970s: Fascism Tears the Roof Off the Mother

  241. sagra said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:56

    I do believe that Mr. Goldberg and his conservative cohorts are, in fact, rubber.

    And we, my friends, are glue.

  242. Jim in Chicago said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:58

    Usually you expect scholarly tomes such as this from Regnery, a Respected Brown Shirt Parody Publishing House.

    I suspect I will be skimming the unintentional humor at my local corporate bookseller. I don’t want to encourage my library. There is way too much reichwing claptrap there as it is.

  243. Smut Clyde said,

    December 18, 2007 at 2:59

    “These assertions may sound strange to modern ears, but that is simply because we have forgotten what Fascism is.”
    Clue: It has nothing to do with dictionary definitions, or what Fascist Party ideologues intended when they coined the word, or how serious historians use it.
    They are all part of the conspiracy.

  244. Mussolini said,

    December 18, 2007 at 3:01

    Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism — born of a renunciation of the struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have courage to meet it.

    Like I was saying…um, what was I saying?

  245. Mussolini, super-extra-super-secret-duper liberal said,

    December 18, 2007 at 3:05

    For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of the nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a period of decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. …never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of direction and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there are a thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine of our time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by the fact that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have suffered and died for it.

  246. Lesley said,

    December 18, 2007 at 3:12

    I wonder if there’s a way to copy all 248 comments into Amazon as reviews of this splendid book?

  247. Gentlewoman said,

    December 18, 2007 at 3:30

    I’m wondering how much ridiculously stupid stuff we could get him to say his future books

    Somewhere between eleventy and infinity SUs (Stupid Units), I’m guessing. Let’s start now!

  248. Smut Clyde said,

    December 18, 2007 at 3:32

    The Frau Doktorin and I are planning a road trip soon, and among other things we’ll visit my old neighbours. Both are about 90, and staunch wielders of the Non-paisley Walking-Stick of Liberal Justice. I’m just imagining the reaction if I explained that 60-odd years ago they were not really fighting Fascism (Arthur flew bombers; Margaret was a Bletchley Park girl), because ‘Fascism’ apparently means things like ‘public health initiative’.

    If nothing else, I might learn some choice new words.

  249. MzNicky said,

    December 18, 2007 at 4:00

    zsa: Sorry. I was trying to imply that Jonah probably has a teeny wienie. As in, not a banana-type thing. Forget I even brought it up.

  250. Kathleen said,

    December 18, 2007 at 4:09

    silly person, quoting Mussolini.

    As if that is relevant AT ALL to a book about fascism. With Mussolini in the subtitle.

  251. Marco said,

    December 18, 2007 at 4:39

    Amazon.com Sales Rank: #11,552 in Books

    It’s doing better than I thought.

  252. Arky - Cthulhusexual said,

    December 18, 2007 at 4:39

    I wonder if Mr. Bucketpants got Dr. P. Coupland’s permission to use Liberal Fascism as the title of his book.

    Because it would be beer-out-the-nose funny if he got sued for plagiarism.

  253. Abraham said,

    December 18, 2007 at 4:58

    With a book like this, there have to be book signings right?

    So, what would be fun, is to get out our best Spanish Civil War outfits, our anarchist militia black and red scarves, and a good CNT/FAI flag. Then we stand behind the table Mr. Goldberg sits at chanting “No pasarán!” And, if anyone asks, we simply say that we are committed anti-Fascists and that we fully support the author. Even better, we could hand out socialist and anarcho-syndicalist literature and break into good leftist songs like the Internationale.

    Bonus points if we can get an Abraham Lincoln Brigade veteran to come.

  254. Oh my at Speedkill said,

    December 18, 2007 at 5:42

    [...] is rather impressive. The Nazi’s supported organic farming! Liberals support organic farming! Ergo, liberals are [...]

  255. jpe said,

    December 18, 2007 at 6:01

    Brown doesn’t have an education department. So the first sentence I read was bullshit. Impressive.

  256. joem said,

    December 18, 2007 at 6:03

    I think it likely the Jonah Goldberg is having some fun here. He definitely knows how to plant tongue firmly in cheek.

    “Liberal Fascism” is kind of silly, but here are some disturbing and perhaps inconvenient FACTS.

    1) Woodrow Wilson was an amazingly rabid racist. This is not controversial. Read any careful history of that period. He undid the modest racial progress under Roosevelt republicans. He forced blacks out of even low level government clerical jobs. His policies were opposed in 1920 by conservative candidate Warren Harding who proposed fairer treatment for negroes. Go read a decent history book! Its all there in black and white. (Sorry for the pun.)

    2) Franklin Roosevelt’s pride and joy was his 1934 NRA bill, a blantant example of economic fascism as well as economic illiteracy. Please do not rant. Go look at the actual law. Compare it to Benito M’s economic program or Hitler’s from 1933-35. The similarites are striking. Go read it!

    I have no general interpretation of this ugly stuff, but the truth is what it is.

  257. The NonSequitur » Blog Archive » Liberal Fascism said,

    December 18, 2007 at 6:37

    [...] DIGG_URL==’string’?DIGG_URL:window.location.href); document.write(“”); } )() This book refutes itself. But, while we're at it:  Image courtesy of Sadly, No! as well.  [...]

  258. Cyan said,

    December 18, 2007 at 6:37

    Perhaps all that intensive research should have included an Indiana Jones movie.

    Oh come now! Don’t you know that this is a very serious, thoughtful argument that has never been made in such detail or with such care?

  259. Jrod said,

    December 18, 2007 at 6:38

    1) joam, who gives a flying fuck about Woodrow Wilson? He was a shitty president, do you think you’re gonna hear a lot of argument from this site? Have you ever heard an actual leftist (note: not a figment of Doughbob’s imagination) pine for the days when Wilson was president? Has anyone other than Jonah ever claimed that Wilson was some sort of leftist hero?

    2) OMG the NRA that was struck down by the Supreme Court within a year? Damn he got us! Another defeat for the forces of lefto-fascism! :(

    Dumbfuck.

  260. FS said,

    December 18, 2007 at 6:44

    I admit it – I was a teenage brownshirt in the 60′s, fighting for fascism on the mean streets of Des Moines.

  261. MSUlly45 said,

    December 18, 2007 at 7:18

    Okay, Chapter One is called “Mussolini: The Father of Fascism” Then Chapter Three is “Woodrow Wilson and the Birth of Liberal Fascism.” Which came first? Fascism or Liberla Fascism? Who is the father (furher) of Liberal Fascism? Who’s the father of what?

  262. (Lex) Skink Tyree (Azagthoth) said,

    December 18, 2007 at 7:23

    Where’s the “islamofascism”? What, he’s leaving that to Michael Cabbage? Honestly, I thought this was a fucking joke until now. Real? No. Can’t be. No one can be this stupid and sell books. Can’t be. OK, I take that back. I’ve seen Coulter’s success and even the spastic epileptic chicken of a cheer-leader. But WTF?

    What’s a reputation anyway? Let’s just make up some new shit about Hitler and get someone to print it. Make money the old fashioned way, by selling idiocy to idiots. Works for NR, works for me.

  263. Chuck Adkins » Jonah Goldbergs New Book said,

    December 18, 2007 at 10:00

    [...] Goldbergs New Book A tantalizing peek at history’s greatest book (H/T Sadly No!) The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm trooper; it is a female [...]

  264. I’m a Prophet at a Loss « his vorpal sword said,

    December 18, 2007 at 10:17

    [...] an early copy of his sleazy tome that “proves” LIBERALS are the fascists was sent to Sadly, No! (bravo! Rev. Bradley S. Rocket, Esq, PhD, MD, if that IS your real name) with the following [...]

  265. bago said,

    December 18, 2007 at 10:34

    They already got sent to the corner. This is just the widely published dunce cap.

  266. bernarda said,

    December 18, 2007 at 10:50

    Jonah Goldberg’s claim to educational fame is that he graduated from something like Gonad’s college, an insubstantial lib arts school for people who couldn’t get into a better one. Like most wingnut blatherers, he has no real education, no particular knowledge, and no experience. That makes him an expert in the wingnut realm.

  267. Liberal Fascism « Blogs 4 Brownback said,

    December 18, 2007 at 13:55

    [...] the weirdos and hippies over at Sadly No obtained an advance copy and they have been leaking excerpts of this fascinating book a sentence or two at a time ever [...]

  268. Progressive Gold » Blog Archive » Comment of the Day: uberloony wingnut edition said,

    December 18, 2007 at 15:01

    [...] The Sadly-Nosians: The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school [...]

  269. joem said,

    December 18, 2007 at 17:37

    I was under the assumption the comment section is for intelligent dialog. Instead I see a lot of shallow pointless trash talking. I’ve been on many comment sections but never seen as many pointless entries as here.

  270. jgmurphy said,

    December 18, 2007 at 17:58

    Jonah Goldberg, poster child for affirmative action in the name of rich white boys with well connected moms, ought to be a true expert on fascism, but obviously not its origins.

    The whole “national socialist” canard has been exploded many times, and I am amazed that any publisher—even Regnery—would pay for this warmed over hash yet again. Hitler’s fascism and alliance with the political right is as obvious as the craters on the moon. Lessee, attacks on trade unions, destruction of freedom of speech, arbitrary seizure and imprisonment, attacks on racial minorities…….hmmmm, remind anybody of a ptluck dinner for “The Progressive”?

    Yeeesh!

  271. Balloon Juice said,

    December 18, 2007 at 18:17

    [...] second thought, given Jonah Goldberg’s revelations about who the real fascists are, maybe they do actually whisper that sort of thing about elementary [...]

  272. oblio said,

    December 18, 2007 at 18:23

    I’ve been on many comment sections but never seen as many pointless entries as here.

    So joem, what’s your point?

  273. nas said,

    December 18, 2007 at 18:46

    OMG, I looked this freak up on Amazon. You can buy an “I love Jonah Goldberg” t-shirt! F**k me! Here’s the link for your Xmas shopping pleasure:

    http://www.amazon.com/I-Love-Jonah-Goldberg-T-Shirt/dp/B0010IZ8GM/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1197996186&sr=8-13

  274. Marie said,

    December 18, 2007 at 19:06

    Aye! This Hitler thing is so annoying. Hitler was pro gun control AFTER he used an ARMED rebellion to take over the government. Sheesh. He just wasn’t an idiot and didn’t want the same happening to him. Also, he was rabidly ANTI-ABORTION for teutonic members of the population, so that is also a non-starter as it simply supported his eugenics program. Hesus on a pogostick, what a misleading moron Goldberg is.

  275. Principal Blackman said,

    December 18, 2007 at 19:54

    Okay, Chapter One is called “Mussolini: The Father of Fascism” Then Chapter Three is “Woodrow Wilson and the Birth of Liberal Fascism.” Which came first? Fascism or Liberla Fascism? Who is the father (furher) of Liberal Fascism? Who’s the father of what?

    You make a good point. Somebody get Maury Povich on the line!

  276. Abraham said,

    December 18, 2007 at 20:19

    Actually, the book fails in an even more fundamental way.

    As soon as I read the phrase, “Everything you know about Fascism is wrong,” my idiot detector went off.

    See, if you know something, in a logical or philosophical sense, it is an undeniable fact. Putting aside Cartesian doubt, I know that I am a human male sitting in front of a computer. I can prove this to you beyond reasonable doubt. You can argue all you want, but you won’t be able to convince me that these are not true.

    Now, I think that a good scholar of history should be very careful in using the word “know.” We do not “know” things about the past, but we have ideas and theories and allow us to make sense of them.

    If he had written, “Everything you thought you knew about Fascism is wrong,” it would have been OK, but the way it is, it comes across to me as a denial of some sort of broad truth that I am supposed to “know” about Fascism. If I “knew” things about Fascism, they would be true by definition, making this book pointless.

    Well, OK, it’s pointless anyway, nevermind.

  277. cervantes said,

    December 18, 2007 at 20:42

    My mother was a grade school teacher with a degree from Swarthmore. That explains why she made us spend our afternoons invading Poland.

  278. JZ said,

    December 18, 2007 at 20:52

    Here’s what amuses me the most. Jonah and his ilk ALREADY use the word “liberal” according to their own definition, meaning “freedom hater.” Now he’s taking it a step further and saying, “Liberals are Fascists,” or in his language, “freedom haters are freedom haters.” Brilliant! If that’s how you sell books, sign me up for a 3-book deal:

    Women are Arabs; Blacks are Environmentalists; Papists are Communists

    Can I collect my paycheck now?

  279. THE NEW REPUBLIC | Blogs said,

    December 18, 2007 at 21:14

    [...] Goldberg's set the blog world abuzz with this bit of jacket-copy text from his eagerly awaited Liberal Fascism:The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm [...]

  280. SemiConscious Dot Org » Blog Archive » Era Vulgaris said,

    December 18, 2007 at 21:38

    [...] party. Why? Because you cannot make up anything for parody purposes than sounds crazier than the things conservatives already say, every single day, in front of the entire world and in perfect [...]

  281. james said,

    December 18, 2007 at 22:27

    If this sort of stupidity is genetic, and it obviously is in this case, how can the wingnuts continue to insist that being gay can be corrected through behavior modification or prayer?

    What is their antidote for this sort of aberration?

  282. Joem? said,

    December 18, 2007 at 22:52

    Joem, do they let you have pointy things? ‘Cause I don’t think you have a point!

  283. r€nato said,

    December 18, 2007 at 23:56

    The quintessential liberal fascist isn’t an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade-school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

    Indeed, millions of Jews and other ‘undesirables’ were forced into the concentration camps by female grade-school teachers with education degrees.

    (‘female’? Why just the ‘female’ grade-school teachers? Is this another instance of a conservative scared of teh vagina?)

  284. joem said,

    December 19, 2007 at 1:02

    This whole site has no point that I can discern – other than people practicing witless obscenities.

    Well I suppose we could filter thru 100′s of comments to find one or 2 good jokes. Kinda like monkeys and typwriters :)

  285. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 19, 2007 at 1:06

    This whole site has no point that I can discern

    I agree that you can’t discern points.

  286. Righteous Bubba said,

    December 19, 2007 at 1:07

    Good lord! The hazard of namestealing Saul is that you keep linking to Free Republic.

  287. Jrod said,

    December 19, 2007 at 1:46

    The point of this site is to mock fuckwits like you, joem.

    So, do you have any examples of an actual honest-to-god leftist lionizing Wilson? Or did you just assume that we’re slavishly devoted to any jackass with a (D) behind his name?

  288. r€nato said,

    December 19, 2007 at 2:07

    if you find these comments so distasteful, you’re always free to leave and never come back, joem.

  289. Hart Williams said,

    December 19, 2007 at 2:15

    Two interesting issues. First, Reason magazine’s blog jumped on Goldberg back in June, and one poster suggested that the proper subtitle should be:

    Liberal Fascism: A Moron’s Take On An Oxymoron

    And, if you want to quote the book jacket copy, rather than re-typing it, it’s up at the AMAZON page, as the entire “review”/description for the book.

    http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

    Bonus: Bertelsmann, owner of Doubleday, was “outed” in 2002 for their highly profitable collaboration with the Nazis, after lying about it for decades. The CEO apologized for the “inaccuracies.”

    Maybe Goldman doesn’t know fascism as well as he thinks he does. His mom could probably explain it to him.

  290. master of logic said,

    December 19, 2007 at 7:45

    Nazis were vegetarian pagans, therefore vegetarian pagans are Nazis.

    Also, all squares are rectangles, therefore all rectangles are squares.

  291. Adam Riff™ in a box » Drilling Holes said,

    December 19, 2007 at 9:25

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  292. elisathon said,

    December 19, 2007 at 11:16

    “These assertions may sound strange to modern ears, but that is simply because we have forgotten what Fascism is.”
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    ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a
    scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean –
    neither more nor less.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make
    words mean so many different things.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to
    be master — that’s all.’

  293. Tori said,

    December 19, 2007 at 12:18

    He keeps using that word … I don not think it means what he thinks it means.

  294. Feministe » Come to think of it, she was pretty strict about the glue said,

    December 19, 2007 at 16:54

    [...] no doubt shake the very foundations of political thought. The good folks over at Sadly, No! have bravely delved into this weighty tome. If you think you know what a fascist is, Goldberg’s got news [...]

  295. Jamey said,

    December 19, 2007 at 19:29

    Shorter Jonah Lucienneberg:

    Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln. Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy. Kennedy was shot while driving in a Lincoln. Therefore Lincoln was a fascist.

  296. Adam Riff™ in a box » The Right Stuff said,

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  297. Goldberg’s “Fascism” and the Real Thing « sans everything said,

    December 20, 2007 at 19:21

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  298. anythings.org » Blog Archive » LOL of the Day said,

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  299. Ricardo said,

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  300. Edwize's Believe It Or Not | Edwize said,

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  301. liberal scaryotype said,

    January 2, 2008 at 23:05

    MSUlly45 said,

    December 18, 2007 at 7:18

    Okay, Chapter One is called “Mussolini: The Father of Fascism” Then Chapter Three is “Woodrow Wilson and the Birth of Liberal Fascism.” Which came first? Fascism or Liberla Fascism? Who is the father (furher) of Liberal Fascism? Who’s the father of what?

    Nobody knows who the father is! What with all the free love and all.

  302. “Heil Myself!” « Justin Nisly said,

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  303. Fascinating stuff . . . « Finance is Fun said,

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  304. jimfocus said,

    January 15, 2008 at 7:11

    Let’s see, FDR the fascist bankrolled and supplied most of the troops to fight fascism in Africa and W. Europe–was he confused, or just a sado-masochist? Another chapter: MLK and the Ameircan Black Facsists of the Fascist Civil Rights Blitzkrieg of the Sixties. Loadpants looks like he might be hypertensive.

  305. poppijohn said,

    February 27, 2008 at 3:40

    Love the way liberals argue.
    My comment is about the statement that Jonah is the first to say that fascism and communism are leftist ideologies, not rightist..
    Good Lord. Eric von Kuhnelt-Leddihn proposed the thesis decades ago.
    The farther away one gets from events, they get to be regarded more dispassionately – egad! a dispassionate liberal? – and historians see nuances never seen before. Eric von K-L just got there first.
    Why not google him and have a good read? From a first rate-mind. He does not just spout. He provides arguments, analyses and copious references.

  306. BoZo said,

    February 29, 2008 at 1:12

    The sadlyno liberal snobbery here is suffocating…so I want to make this quick before I puke. Let me help you out. Think of it this way: just as it doesn’t matter whether you travel east or west along the equator, you still reach the same place on the other side of the world, so it is if you follow either of the ideological extremes, both of them, liberalism (i.e., socialism) or fascism, obtain the same horrific consequence: persecution, fear, subjugation, death of free speech, a totalitarian police state, arbitrary justice, and total equality in the form of destitution for everyone, except, of course for the ruling party elite, who are naturally more equal than the others, and hence above any of their own laws. Ergo: Fascism = Liberalism = Fascism = Liberalism … Unfortunately, you leftist are so invested in liberalism that you cannot objectively grasp your hypocrisy each time you condemn your opponents as fascists and smugly laugh. Doubt, me? Just visit the political prisoners in the paradise of Cuba and hear their crimes that put them away for life. See how far you, yourself, can go in walking the streets of Cuba and denouncing the revolution, calling for impeachment of the Castro brothers, or even mildly asking for the freedom to emigrate. Likewise the mind-boggling scale of butchery under Mao, Stalin, Pol-Pot, or Che, is of the same hideous nature and magnitude as that wrought by Hitler or Mussolini. The results are all the same: nihilism. And what is really sickening is that presently, the hidden butchery unleashed within the United States through a liberal ideology of irresponsibility continues unabated. Since the detestable, 1973 Roe v. Wade decision was imposed on America by a cabal liberal (i.e., fascist) activist justices on the Supreme Court, more Americans have been slaughtered in their wombs (estimated above 40,000,000) than have died in battle (662,356) or out of battle (1,022,343) in all U.S. wars combined!

  307. Righteous Bubba said,

    February 29, 2008 at 1:22

    The sadlyno liberal snobbery here is suffocating…

    If only.

  308. El Cid said,

    February 29, 2008 at 1:27

    Who is this BoZo character using the wrong fork for his salad and not appreciating our finest caviar? Ruffian.

  309. BoZo said,

    February 29, 2008 at 2:24

    bubba and cid, your femmy diction is creepy…wishing you a million fart blossoms, I’m out’a here for good…so don’t reply

  310. Righteous Bubba said,

    February 29, 2008 at 2:42

    I’m out’a here for good…so don’t reply

    We lose the best and brightest so quickly here. Is our trolls learning?

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  312. Panel Reminder: SEK, Bitch Ph.D., Ezster Hargittai, and Ezra Klein to speak tomorrow « The Edge of the American West said,

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  314. Jeffrey Colvin said,

    November 19, 2008 at 19:42

    I am terrified that there are so many liberals in this once great nation and that with Obama as president-elect, you guys are taking over. Actually, Goldberg’s book is right on target, but most of you bloggers do not have Ph.Ds in Political Science with minors in Economics, so I suppose you wouldn’t know that. Liberalism will be the catalyst that destroys our capitalist society, and the economic breakdown and government bailout is just the beginning of the end.

  315. A “Gay & Secular Fascism” « Red Tory v.3.0 said,

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