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		<title>By: Doctorb Science</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-362865</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctorb Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, it gets confusing when people use &quot;cult&quot; and &quot;religion&quot; to mean different and mutually exclusive things.  They&#039;re both fine choices, whatever floats your boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, it gets confusing when people use &#8220;cult&#8221; and &#8220;religion&#8221; to mean different and mutually exclusive things.  They&#8217;re both fine choices, whatever floats your boat.</p>
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		<title>By: pluky</title>
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		<dc:creator>pluky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big chunk of Christian angeology and demonology derives from syncretic appropriation of Zoroastrian and Manichean traditions by the Essenes and Gnostics. I&#039;m sure Govenor Huckabee was just trying to start a conversation on comparative theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big chunk of Christian angeology and demonology derives from syncretic appropriation of Zoroastrian and Manichean traditions by the Essenes and Gnostics. I&#8217;m sure Govenor Huckabee was just trying to start a conversation on comparative theology.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360775</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, hek, let&#039;s all go nuke Christmas (on that other post) and get it over with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hek, let&#8217;s all go nuke Christmas (on that other post) and get it over with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360670</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netheranium?! 
I think there are some of those growing down at the end of my garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netheranium?!<br />
I think there are some of those growing down at the end of my garden.</p>
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		<title>By: The Visigoth</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360586</link>
		<dc:creator>The Visigoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one am in favor of any geneology tht includes Son of Satan, especially his trident made of that other-dimensional metal, Netheranium. 

And it&#039;s so hilarious to read about the godfuckers and their hairsplitting contests and lack of perspective. 

Mike Huckabee actually reminds me of Bush II when he was up for election in 2000: everything he says either makes me want to laugh or cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one am in favor of any geneology tht includes Son of Satan, especially his trident made of that other-dimensional metal, Netheranium. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s so hilarious to read about the godfuckers and their hairsplitting contests and lack of perspective. </p>
<p>Mike Huckabee actually reminds me of Bush II when he was up for election in 2000: everything he says either makes me want to laugh or cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctorb Science</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360501</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctorb Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Jimmy Carr asked, if we&#039;re all God&#039;s children, what&#039;s so special about Jesus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jimmy Carr asked, if we&#8217;re all God&#8217;s children, what&#8217;s so special about Jesus?</p>
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		<title>By: Doctorb Science</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360452</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctorb Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very partial to Dr. Venture&#039;s exclamation: 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uywgp-XXwgE
(around 37 seconds in)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very partial to Dr. Venture&#8217;s exclamation: </p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=uywgp-XXwgE" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=uywgp-XXwgE</a><br />
(around 37 seconds in)</p>
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		<title>By: Shell Goddamnit</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360428</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell Goddamnit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When he hurt himself or dropped something or whatnot, instead of yelling “Jesus Christ!” he’d yell “L Ron Hubbard!” It was funny to us every single time …&quot;

I think this would work really well if it was &quot;L Ron &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fucking&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Hubbard!&quot;  But not otherwise.

Thanks! New swears are a good thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When he hurt himself or dropped something or whatnot, instead of yelling “Jesus Christ!” he’d yell “L Ron Hubbard!” It was funny to us every single time …&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this would work really well if it was &#8220;L Ron <i><b>Fucking</b></i> Hubbard!&#8221;  But not otherwise.</p>
<p>Thanks! New swears are a good thing!</p>
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		<title>By: David in NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360403</link>
		<dc:creator>David in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the stupid/conservative overlap, John Stuart Mill made an enlightening observation a while ago (March 1866, to be exact):

&lt;i&gt;I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.&lt;/i&gt;

And of course Superman would beat the Hulk; he (Supe) is invincible, invulnerable, indestructible, etc.  Well, unless the Hulk was wearing a kryptonite suit.  Or knew magic.  Or they were under a red sun.  (Are those all of Supe&#039;s exceptions?  It&#039;s been a while since my comic book days.)

Now, OTOH, who&#039;s faster, Superman or the Flash, is a much more difficult question to answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the stupid/conservative overlap, John Stuart Mill made an enlightening observation a while ago (March 1866, to be exact):</p>
<p><i>I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.</i></p>
<p>And of course Superman would beat the Hulk; he (Supe) is invincible, invulnerable, indestructible, etc.  Well, unless the Hulk was wearing a kryptonite suit.  Or knew magic.  Or they were under a red sun.  (Are those all of Supe&#8217;s exceptions?  It&#8217;s been a while since my comic book days.)</p>
<p>Now, OTOH, who&#8217;s faster, Superman or the Flash, is a much more difficult question to answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And RobW types faster than I do.</description>
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		<title>By: Hysterical Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360393</link>
		<dc:creator>Hysterical Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God is Jesus. God is also the Father and the Holy Spirit. How exactly this works is the subject of a lot of seemingly pointless debates. I think the orthodox idea is that God is three separate and equal persons in one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God is Jesus. God is also the Father and the Holy Spirit. How exactly this works is the subject of a lot of seemingly pointless debates. I think the orthodox idea is that God is three separate and equal persons in one.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt T&#039;s gotten closest to the &quot;truth&quot; that all you other heathens missed.  In The Very Right Reverend Huckabee&#039;s world, a RELIGION is a wonderous community, a staff in times of trouble, a battalion of the Righteous in defense of America and all else that is good and pure.  All those other religion-looking-clubs that are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; about how America is the most Perfect &amp; Wonderful Country Evah! and St. Ronnie is Her prophet -- you know, like Islam or Scientology -- those are CULTS, false fake pretend religions.  And the only thing worse than a cult is an ATHEIST, only Reverend Huckabee finds it hard to believe in his Godly heart that there could be worse than cults, so he prefers to think of you people who claim you&#039;re &#039;not religious&#039; (as if!  That&#039;s like a fish pretending it&#039;s not aquatic!)  as cultists who belong to very &lt;i&gt;off-brand&lt;/i&gt; cults indeed.  

See, The VRR Huckabee is all about the Love.  And in demonstration of his God-given Spirit of Love, he&#039;s even willing to grant a low-rent travelling-show mock-up like Mormonism status as a &quot;real&quot; religion.  Is that not a graciousness surpassing even Romney&#039;s own explanation that all Americans are religious and therefore all truly religious are in some sense American?  That&#039;s why Michael &#039;Elmer Gantry&#039; Huckabee believes he&#039;s rising so swiftly in the popularity polls -- because His God is Love, for sufficiently meagre values of &quot;love&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt T&#8217;s gotten closest to the &#8220;truth&#8221; that all you other heathens missed.  In The Very Right Reverend Huckabee&#8217;s world, a RELIGION is a wonderous community, a staff in times of trouble, a battalion of the Righteous in defense of America and all else that is good and pure.  All those other religion-looking-clubs that are <i>not</i> about how America is the most Perfect &amp; Wonderful Country Evah! and St. Ronnie is Her prophet &#8212; you know, like Islam or Scientology &#8212; those are CULTS, false fake pretend religions.  And the only thing worse than a cult is an ATHEIST, only Reverend Huckabee finds it hard to believe in his Godly heart that there could be worse than cults, so he prefers to think of you people who claim you&#8217;re &#8216;not religious&#8217; (as if!  That&#8217;s like a fish pretending it&#8217;s not aquatic!)  as cultists who belong to very <i>off-brand</i> cults indeed.  </p>
<p>See, The VRR Huckabee is all about the Love.  And in demonstration of his God-given Spirit of Love, he&#8217;s even willing to grant a low-rent travelling-show mock-up like Mormonism status as a &#8220;real&#8221; religion.  Is that not a graciousness surpassing even Romney&#8217;s own explanation that all Americans are religious and therefore all truly religious are in some sense American?  That&#8217;s why Michael &#8216;Elmer Gantry&#8217; Huckabee believes he&#8217;s rising so swiftly in the popularity polls &#8212; because His God is Love, for sufficiently meagre values of &#8220;love&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RobW</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360385</link>
		<dc:creator>RobW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Atheist — I agree completely. When I say I’m amazed that Huckabee says he believes Mormonism is a religion, I don’t mean that I don’t — obviously, it is. I mean that it’s ridiculous he would say that as if there was some doubt, and he did a bunch of research and decided, yes, he believes it is actually a religion after all. Instead of, I dunno, a toaster.&lt;/i&gt;

The question among evangelicals is whether Mormonism is a religion or a cult.  By professing his belief that it is a religion, he is saying that his religious tolerance is so much greater than all those *other* Southern Baptist preachers.

Yeah, I know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Atheist — I agree completely. When I say I’m amazed that Huckabee says he believes Mormonism is a religion, I don’t mean that I don’t — obviously, it is. I mean that it’s ridiculous he would say that as if there was some doubt, and he did a bunch of research and decided, yes, he believes it is actually a religion after all. Instead of, I dunno, a toaster.</i></p>
<p>The question among evangelicals is whether Mormonism is a religion or a cult.  By professing his belief that it is a religion, he is saying that his religious tolerance is so much greater than all those *other* Southern Baptist preachers.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>owlbear1,
 Yeah, that&#039;s sorta the way I look at it to. What&#039;s funny to me is that I&#039;ve been told that not pretending to &quot;respect&quot; religious beliefs - i.e., not pray - is worse than treating the actual human being with respect while keeping my own council (for the there is a time and place for everything) and, thus, not acting like I think the whole thing isn&#039;t fucking laughable.

 Man, I look forward to the big family get-together every year for just this reason. Hey, during the 15-minute blessing my uncle gives before we get to eat someone has to keep an eye on the younger children, the mean little bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>owlbear1,<br />
 Yeah, that&#8217;s sorta the way I look at it to. What&#8217;s funny to me is that I&#8217;ve been told that not pretending to &#8220;respect&#8221; religious beliefs &#8211; i.e., not pray &#8211; is worse than treating the actual human being with respect while keeping my own council (for the there is a time and place for everything) and, thus, not acting like I think the whole thing isn&#8217;t fucking laughable.</p>
<p> Man, I look forward to the big family get-together every year for just this reason. Hey, during the 15-minute blessing my uncle gives before we get to eat someone has to keep an eye on the younger children, the mean little bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dorothy said,

December 12, 2007 at 23:10 
Well, the purported issue is that Satan is not God’s “son” the way Jesus is–with that logic, plants and animals would be Jesus’s siblings, also.&lt;/i&gt;

What? You mean man would have to have &lt;i&gt;stewardship&lt;/i&gt; over the planet and protect God&#039;s children?

What a concept! One might almost get nailed to a tree for such crazy talk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dorothy said,</p>
<p>December 12, 2007 at 23:10<br />
Well, the purported issue is that Satan is not God’s “son” the way Jesus is–with that logic, plants and animals would be Jesus’s siblings, also.</i></p>
<p>What? You mean man would have to have <i>stewardship</i> over the planet and protect God&#8217;s children?</p>
<p>What a concept! One might almost get nailed to a tree for such crazy talk!</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
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		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nope, sorry! That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard!&quot;

&quot;Your continued refusal to accept blindly what I say is God&#039;s will means I get to view your death would be justified however it might happen and how dare you be so hurtful by calling me an idiot.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nope, sorry! That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your continued refusal to accept blindly what I say is God&#8217;s will means I get to view your death would be justified however it might happen and how dare you be so hurtful by calling me an idiot.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, now, most Christians believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers, so I’m not sure what the problem is.

The liogic is very simple: When God created the universe, there were no angels. Ergo, any angels that appear MUST have been created by God, just as Jesus was created by God. &lt;/i&gt;

Well, the purported issue is that Satan is not God&#039;s &quot;son&quot; the way Jesus is--with that logic, plants and animals would be Jesus&#039;s siblings, also.

The actual issue is more of an existential than a theological one, to whit: &quot;B-b-but Satan&#039;s the BAD GUY and Jesus is the GOOD GUY and they can&#039;t be related because the BAD GUYS have to be THEM! If they&#039;re not, how can I be special and hate &#039;them&#039; in peace? Whaaaaaaaaaah!&quot;

I may not have the correct terminology there, but my wingnut/English dictionary is at home...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, now, most Christians believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers, so I’m not sure what the problem is.</p>
<p>The liogic is very simple: When God created the universe, there were no angels. Ergo, any angels that appear MUST have been created by God, just as Jesus was created by God. </i></p>
<p>Well, the purported issue is that Satan is not God&#8217;s &#8220;son&#8221; the way Jesus is&#8211;with that logic, plants and animals would be Jesus&#8217;s siblings, also.</p>
<p>The actual issue is more of an existential than a theological one, to whit: &#8220;B-b-but Satan&#8217;s the BAD GUY and Jesus is the GOOD GUY and they can&#8217;t be related because the BAD GUYS have to be THEM! If they&#8217;re not, how can I be special and hate &#8216;them&#8217; in peace? Whaaaaaaaaaah!&#8221;</p>
<p>I may not have the correct terminology there, but my wingnut/English dictionary is at home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SamFromUtah</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamFromUtah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...a Mormon guy who thought of his own swear to fit in with the guys...&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a common Mormon feature - it can be very amusing. I&#039;ve been steeped in it long enough that I&#039;m used to hearing people curse by saying &quot;Flip!&quot; or &quot;Fetch!&quot; because saying &quot;Fuck&quot; is a no-no. I do the same thing when I&#039;m in pious Mormon company (in accord with the When In Rome principle). I&#039;ve got one Mormon friend using the phrase &quot;Mole poblano!&quot; as a general-purpose exclamation of wonderment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;a Mormon guy who thought of his own swear to fit in with the guys&#8230;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a common Mormon feature &#8211; it can be very amusing. I&#8217;ve been steeped in it long enough that I&#8217;m used to hearing people curse by saying &#8220;Flip!&#8221; or &#8220;Fetch!&#8221; because saying &#8220;Fuck&#8221; is a no-no. I do the same thing when I&#8217;m in pious Mormon company (in accord with the When In Rome principle). I&#8217;ve got one Mormon friend using the phrase &#8220;Mole poblano!&#8221; as a general-purpose exclamation of wonderment.</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
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		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now that is stupid! I can&#039;t believe you actually believe that!&quot;

&quot;Your refusal to worship at my God&#039;s altar means I get to fantasize about you enduring an eternity of pain and suffering at the hands of the most vile demons I can conjure! So stop being &lt;b&gt;SO&lt;/b&gt; mean and calling me stupid!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now that is stupid! I can&#8217;t believe you actually believe that!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your refusal to worship at my God&#8217;s altar means I get to fantasize about you enduring an eternity of pain and suffering at the hands of the most vile demons I can conjure! So stop being <b>SO</b> mean and calling me stupid!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SamFromUtah</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8140.html#comment-360277</link>
		<dc:creator>SamFromUtah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“No God, what a moron!”&lt;/i&gt;

There was a good one of these in Monty Python&#039;s Flying Circus - &quot;My lack of God, it&#039;s Trotsky!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“No God, what a moron!”</i></p>
<p>There was a good one of these in Monty Python&#8217;s Flying Circus &#8211; &#8220;My lack of God, it&#8217;s Trotsky!&#8221;</p>
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