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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: Spirula</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-337405</link>
		<dc:creator>Spirula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;there’s not much a penis can do to look good is there&lt;/i&gt;

But they will always try.  Always.


And, as a recipient of a vasectomy, it is the only way to go.  20 min. and $600 bucks (at least when I had mine) is no comparison to the cost and risks of tubal ligation (not that I am opposed to those, but the men whining about getting snipped really piss me off.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>there’s not much a penis can do to look good is there</i></p>
<p>But they will always try.  Always.</p>
<p>And, as a recipient of a vasectomy, it is the only way to go.  20 min. and $600 bucks (at least when I had mine) is no comparison to the cost and risks of tubal ligation (not that I am opposed to those, but the men whining about getting snipped really piss me off.)</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-337248</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the whining, the complaining, the claims that one’s masculinity is compromised!&lt;/i&gt;
Lesley, rest assured that I behaved in bed like that, even before the vasectomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the whining, the complaining, the claims that one’s masculinity is compromised!</i><br />
Lesley, rest assured that I behaved in bed like that, even before the vasectomy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-337225</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Circumcision seems to help with hygiene, but I&#039;d still rather teach my son how to clean himself than subject him to torture when he&#039;s a helpless infant (which is when most male circumcisions are done).  

Adult males at least receive a local anaesthetic don&#039;t they? 

There&#039;s an aesthetic factor too - the circumcised penis is thought to be more attractive. (But really, there&#039;s not much a penis can do to look good is there, short of donning an Armani condom. Genitals are just weird, period.  Women&#039;s too. Georgia O&#039;Keefe painted fantasies.)

There are men who claim that circumcision reduced their pleasure - those who were circumcised as adults, but how much frickin&#039; pleasure do you need? 

 (Now vasectomies are a whole other thing...the whining, the complaining, the claims that one&#039;s masculinity is compromised!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Circumcision seems to help with hygiene, but I&#8217;d still rather teach my son how to clean himself than subject him to torture when he&#8217;s a helpless infant (which is when most male circumcisions are done).  </p>
<p>Adult males at least receive a local anaesthetic don&#8217;t they? </p>
<p>There&#8217;s an aesthetic factor too &#8211; the circumcised penis is thought to be more attractive. (But really, there&#8217;s not much a penis can do to look good is there, short of donning an Armani condom. Genitals are just weird, period.  Women&#8217;s too. Georgia O&#8217;Keefe painted fantasies.)</p>
<p>There are men who claim that circumcision reduced their pleasure &#8211; those who were circumcised as adults, but how much frickin&#8217; pleasure do you need? </p>
<p> (Now vasectomies are a whole other thing&#8230;the whining, the complaining, the claims that one&#8217;s masculinity is compromised!)</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-337214</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t squawk about what circumcision has done for or to me - I think I&#039;m doing okay - but it&#039;s still unnecessary surgery and there are risks to weigh when chopping things off your infant.  A little poke at the Googlinator will reveal horrors.

Treat it as a religious ritual passed down from a tribe that went nuts in the desert and who knows?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishledger.com/articles/2006/02/23/news/news02.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maybe your kid dies.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t squawk about what circumcision has done for or to me &#8211; I think I&#8217;m doing okay &#8211; but it&#8217;s still unnecessary surgery and there are risks to weigh when chopping things off your infant.  A little poke at the Googlinator will reveal horrors.</p>
<p>Treat it as a religious ritual passed down from a tribe that went nuts in the desert and who knows?  <a href="http://www.jewishledger.com/articles/2006/02/23/news/news02.txt" rel="nofollow">Maybe your kid dies.</a></p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-337208</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to note, I was in a surgical recovery room once next to a guy in his twenties/early thirties who had just been circumsised because he kept getting infections. I don&#039;t know if he never cleaned in there or was a &quot;sleep-around Sammy&quot; or what (we were both pretty groggy, &amp; I was freezing) but if being desensitized &amp; not getting infections is the result of it, it seems just fine to me. Plus Randy Andy Sullivan has been on about it (anti, he is) so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to note, I was in a surgical recovery room once next to a guy in his twenties/early thirties who had just been circumsised because he kept getting infections. I don&#8217;t know if he never cleaned in there or was a &#8220;sleep-around Sammy&#8221; or what (we were both pretty groggy, &amp; I was freezing) but if being desensitized &amp; not getting infections is the result of it, it seems just fine to me. Plus Randy Andy Sullivan has been on about it (anti, he is) so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-337162</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Not to belabor the point, but male circumcision involves removal of foreskin. Female “circumcision” is cutting off most if not all external genitalia and perhaps sewing up the vagina besides. If there exists a good reason for this, I’d sure like to hear it.&lt;/i&gt;

Old thread, but MzNicky&#039;s right.  Female circumcision excises the female pleasure centre (the clitoris) and sets up the condition for hideous infections (sewing up the vagina, obstructing the menses,etc.)  It&#039;s designed to desexualize women.  The conditions under which it&#039;s performed are usually barbaric. The tools are unsterilized and the &quot;operation&quot; is excruciatingly painful.  

The practice of removing foreskin, though painful, does not compare. (Though if I had a son, a baby,  I probably not subject him to this and leave it to him to decide in his later years.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not to belabor the point, but male circumcision involves removal of foreskin. Female “circumcision” is cutting off most if not all external genitalia and perhaps sewing up the vagina besides. If there exists a good reason for this, I’d sure like to hear it.</i></p>
<p>Old thread, but MzNicky&#8217;s right.  Female circumcision excises the female pleasure centre (the clitoris) and sets up the condition for hideous infections (sewing up the vagina, obstructing the menses,etc.)  It&#8217;s designed to desexualize women.  The conditions under which it&#8217;s performed are usually barbaric. The tools are unsterilized and the &#8220;operation&#8221; is excruciatingly painful.  </p>
<p>The practice of removing foreskin, though painful, does not compare. (Though if I had a son, a baby,  I probably not subject him to this and leave it to him to decide in his later years.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And Lesley, unless you’re morbidly obese or hideously disfigured...

Well, unlike the Protein Wisdom people whose manhood is trounced by the Starbucks coffee menu, I&#039;m no snob when it comes to peppermint mocha frappuccinos - which run around 800 calories a pop give or take a few tablespoons of whipped cream. So um, I&#039;m packing 15 extra pounds this *holiday season* already and headed straight for sammich-ville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And Lesley, unless you’re morbidly obese or hideously disfigured&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, unlike the Protein Wisdom people whose manhood is trounced by the Starbucks coffee menu, I&#8217;m no snob when it comes to peppermint mocha frappuccinos &#8211; which run around 800 calories a pop give or take a few tablespoons of whipped cream. So um, I&#8217;m packing 15 extra pounds this *holiday season* already and headed straight for sammich-ville.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336959</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Leave Pam alone! She’s not getting very many comments lately. Leave the poor girl be.&lt;/i&gt;

Shorter Psycheout; booobiess, heheheheh.

blogs4conservatives, Psycheout? Really? That&#039;s the best you can come up with since Brownback pulled the ripcord?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Leave Pam alone! She’s not getting very many comments lately. Leave the poor girl be.</i></p>
<p>Shorter Psycheout; booobiess, heheheheh.</p>
<p>blogs4conservatives, Psycheout? Really? That&#8217;s the best you can come up with since Brownback pulled the ripcord?</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336943</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;i’m surprised Pam posted such a beguiling photo of Jolie. It must be unsettling the wingnuts who’d like to react vehemently but are somewhat distracted…&lt;/i&gt;

Anything to get the click rate up, right? Taking her cues from Fox News, clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>i’m surprised Pam posted such a beguiling photo of Jolie. It must be unsettling the wingnuts who’d like to react vehemently but are somewhat distracted…</i></p>
<p>Anything to get the click rate up, right? Taking her cues from Fox News, clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336939</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;she calls Jews the canary in the coal mine? So the canaries are being financed by eagles, with whom the canaries have an inordinate amount of political power, and this says what about the coal mine?&lt;/i&gt;

Excuse me a moment while I denounce this practice of taking canaries down into coal mines. They get loose, you know. They&#039;re breeding down there. Whenever you read about a coal-mine cave-in, it&#039;s a cover-up -- those &#039;trapped miners&#039; were pecked to death by flocks of satanic soot-covered canaries. We must act now before they escape to the surface!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>she calls Jews the canary in the coal mine? So the canaries are being financed by eagles, with whom the canaries have an inordinate amount of political power, and this says what about the coal mine?</i></p>
<p>Excuse me a moment while I denounce this practice of taking canaries down into coal mines. They get loose, you know. They&#8217;re breeding down there. Whenever you read about a coal-mine cave-in, it&#8217;s a cover-up &#8212; those &#8216;trapped miners&#8217; were pecked to death by flocks of satanic soot-covered canaries. We must act now before they escape to the surface!</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Pierce</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336878</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Could you, like, give me an example of one that is not?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Because Muslims do it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Could you, like, give me an example of one that is not?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Because Muslims do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336863</link>
		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are a million reasons to oppose female genital cutting, and most of them are good ones...&lt;/i&gt;

Mr. Pierce: I beg your pardon? &quot;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Most&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of them are good ones&quot;? Could you, like, give me an example of one that is not?

Not to belabor the point, but male circumcision involves removal of foreskin. Female &quot;circumcision&quot; is cutting off most if not all external genitalia and perhaps sewing up the vagina besides. If there exists a good reason for this, I&#039;d sure like to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are a million reasons to oppose female genital cutting, and most of them are good ones&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Mr. Pierce: I beg your pardon? &#8220;<b><i>Most</i></b> of them are good ones&#8221;? Could you, like, give me an example of one that is not?</p>
<p>Not to belabor the point, but male circumcision involves removal of foreskin. Female &#8220;circumcision&#8221; is cutting off most if not all external genitalia and perhaps sewing up the vagina besides. If there exists a good reason for this, I&#8217;d sure like to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336848</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marinfrenchcheese.com/Store/Cheese/CheeseProducts.aspx?CatID=3&amp;CatgroupId=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sometimes local is the right answer.&lt;/a&gt;

And so it is with cheese...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.marinfrenchcheese.com/Store/Cheese/CheeseProducts.aspx?CatID=3&amp;CatgroupId=1" rel="nofollow">Sometimes local is the right answer.</a></p>
<p>And so it is with cheese&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious P.A.T.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336846</link>
		<dc:creator>Notorious P.A.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The homey haunts of what Rep. Pete King once memorably called “Al Qaeda heartland”?&lt;/i&gt;

Huh.  I thought Saudi Arabia was al-Qaeda heartland.  And Pakistan.  Our friends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The homey haunts of what Rep. Pete King once memorably called “Al Qaeda heartland”?</i></p>
<p>Huh.  I thought Saudi Arabia was al-Qaeda heartland.  And Pakistan.  Our friends!</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336839</link>
		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing like opening up a can of Cougar Gold and displaying the entire wheel on a platter for a party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing like opening up a can of Cougar Gold and displaying the entire wheel on a platter for a party.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Pierce</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336828</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I am ashamed I have been delinquent in weighing in on the whole Cheddar debate.  Dubliner Irish Cheddar is so fucking good it almost makes me believe in God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I am ashamed I have been delinquent in weighing in on the whole Cheddar debate.  Dubliner Irish Cheddar is so fucking good it almost makes me believe in God.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Pierce</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336826</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MzNicky -- 

I agree that male and female genital cutting are very different, but the difference is in degree, not in kind.  There are a million reasons to oppose female genital cutting, and most of them are good ones, but the ones that the anti-jihadists tend to focus on (the fact that it&#039;s a non-consensual activity and that it&#039;s undertaken purely for religious reasons) apply equally to male genital cutting, about which they have boo to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MzNicky &#8212; </p>
<p>I agree that male and female genital cutting are very different, but the difference is in degree, not in kind.  There are a million reasons to oppose female genital cutting, and most of them are good ones, but the ones that the anti-jihadists tend to focus on (the fact that it&#8217;s a non-consensual activity and that it&#8217;s undertaken purely for religious reasons) apply equally to male genital cutting, about which they have boo to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336814</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blogs For Bush&quot; is now &quot;Blogs for Victory&quot;?

The course of action is clear: the only right and indeed noble thing to do now would be to call it &quot;Blogs for Bitchery&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blogs For Bush&#8221; is now &#8220;Blogs for Victory&#8221;?</p>
<p>The course of action is clear: the only right and indeed noble thing to do now would be to call it &#8220;Blogs for Bitchery&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: commie atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7849.html#comment-336810</link>
		<dc:creator>commie atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and:

&lt;i&gt;The reasons given by families for having FGM performed include:

psychosexual reasons: reduction or elimination of the sensitive tissue of the outer genitalia, particularly the clitoris, in order to attenuate sexual desire in the female, maintain chastity and virginity before marriage and fidelity during marriage, and increase male sexual pleasure; 

(snip)

religious reasons: Some Muslim communities, however, practise FGM in the belief that it is demanded by the Islamic faith. The practice, however, predates Islam. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and:</p>
<p><i>The reasons given by families for having FGM performed include:</p>
<p>psychosexual reasons: reduction or elimination of the sensitive tissue of the outer genitalia, particularly the clitoris, in order to attenuate sexual desire in the female, maintain chastity and virginity before marriage and fidelity during marriage, and increase male sexual pleasure; </p>
<p>(snip)</p>
<p>religious reasons: Some Muslim communities, however, practise FGM in the belief that it is demanded by the Islamic faith. The practice, however, predates Islam. </i></p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bush&quot; and &quot;victory&quot; are now officially antonyms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bush&#8221; and &#8220;victory&#8221; are now officially antonyms.</p>
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