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		<title>By: HorsesAss.Org&#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Bullshit</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-335143</link>
		<dc:creator>HorsesAss.Org&#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Bullshit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The wingnut welfare squad sure are upset that their publishers cheated them to the New York Times best seller [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Regnery &#171; Petunias</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-333164</link>
		<dc:creator>Regnery &#171; Petunias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some of the writers published by Regnery are suing them (it&#8217;s also looked at here, here, here, here (Jane also talks a bit about another conservative operation Pajama Media), and I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some of the writers published by Regnery are suing them (it&#8217;s also looked at here, here, here, here (Jane also talks a bit about another conservative operation Pajama Media), and I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doodle Bean</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-332059</link>
		<dc:creator>Doodle Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patkin,

I agree!

And Herr Doktor,

Nope.  That&#039;s a whole &#039;nother bag o&#039; crazy here at PII!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patkin,</p>
<p>I agree!</p>
<p>And Herr Doktor,</p>
<p>Nope.  That&#8217;s a whole &#8216;nother bag o&#8217; crazy here at PII!</p>
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		<title>By: zen54 Blog Archive &#187; Shorter Wingnut Welfare Queens</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331955</link>
		<dc:creator>zen54 Blog Archive &#187; Shorter Wingnut Welfare Queens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] check the full story here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331913</link>
		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I imagine we&#039;ll the Regenery gang out on the picket lines with the WGA any day now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I imagine we&#8217;ll the Regenery gang out on the picket lines with the WGA any day now?</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331812</link>
		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; it’s not about money, otherwise they wouldn’t be eventually dumping hundreds of thousands of copies onto the fevered masses at below cost. Eagle/Regnery may well be operating at a net loss. They’re a privately-held company, so who the hell really knows? Scaife?&lt;/i&gt;

Example: the WSJ. The paper of the free market uber alles, even when it pisses off the LouDobbsian xenophobes. An organisation that, one would assume, knows the price of everything (and the value of nothing).

Its online enterprises? Curiously divided.

The news bit of the WSJ. Paywalled, by subscription only.

The batshit wingnut opinion section? Available gratis.

There is a value, beyond money, of getting that shit circulating. The reference to the coming wave of Murderous Dyke Hillary books is apposite, since the WSJ ran hard with the Vince Foster story.

If Regnery could generate wingnut propaganda with robots, they&#039;d do it. (Right now, the tech is stuck at the level of &#039;internet troll&#039;.) The authors are just penny-liners, jobbing shitspewers. Tough titty if they don&#039;t feel adequately compensated. It won&#039;t be long before the job is outsourced to Bangalore and a team of ghostwriters, with some failed Faux News blonde playing the part of &#039;author&#039; for the promotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> it’s not about money, otherwise they wouldn’t be eventually dumping hundreds of thousands of copies onto the fevered masses at below cost. Eagle/Regnery may well be operating at a net loss. They’re a privately-held company, so who the hell really knows? Scaife?</i></p>
<p>Example: the WSJ. The paper of the free market uber alles, even when it pisses off the LouDobbsian xenophobes. An organisation that, one would assume, knows the price of everything (and the value of nothing).</p>
<p>Its online enterprises? Curiously divided.</p>
<p>The news bit of the WSJ. Paywalled, by subscription only.</p>
<p>The batshit wingnut opinion section? Available gratis.</p>
<p>There is a value, beyond money, of getting that shit circulating. The reference to the coming wave of Murderous Dyke Hillary books is apposite, since the WSJ ran hard with the Vince Foster story.</p>
<p>If Regnery could generate wingnut propaganda with robots, they&#8217;d do it. (Right now, the tech is stuck at the level of &#8216;internet troll&#8217;.) The authors are just penny-liners, jobbing shitspewers. Tough titty if they don&#8217;t feel adequately compensated. It won&#8217;t be long before the job is outsourced to Bangalore and a team of ghostwriters, with some failed Faux News blonde playing the part of &#8216;author&#8217; for the promotions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthie</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;But, from what I can piece together from the news reports summarizing their complaint, the publisher sold the books at a discounted price to a sister-corporation that then resold or donated the books - somehow making more money than they paid the publisher. Since the author’s cut was determined by the first sale, they did not get any benefits from the later sales/donations, even though the parent company did.

If the publisher had just dumped slow-moving books off to an unrelated third party, the authors wouldn’t have any claim - IMHO. But if the books were shifted around to various subsidiaries as part of a plan to limit royalties paid to the authors, they might have a claim.&lt;/I&gt;

Actually, it will depend on the terms of the contract. If the contract stated that the publisher could discount up to a certain percentage of the hardbacks, the contract will be upheld--particularly if these &quot;hot-shot authors&quot; were represented by their own attorneys or agents--as opposed to Regnery&#039;s attorneys. Corporations are free to use their best business judgment in such situations. Arguably, giving away or deep-discounting books is a cheaper marketing ploy than taking out several successive ads in the NYTimes or LATimes Book Review. And after the first sale, the purchaser is free to transfer the book according to his terms. 

I&#039;m just hoping it is appealed in the 2nd Circuit, where a majority of the appointees are the sort of hard-core conservatives who favor business. Attorneys should never have this much fun....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But, from what I can piece together from the news reports summarizing their complaint, the publisher sold the books at a discounted price to a sister-corporation that then resold or donated the books &#8211; somehow making more money than they paid the publisher. Since the author’s cut was determined by the first sale, they did not get any benefits from the later sales/donations, even though the parent company did.</p>
<p>If the publisher had just dumped slow-moving books off to an unrelated third party, the authors wouldn’t have any claim &#8211; IMHO. But if the books were shifted around to various subsidiaries as part of a plan to limit royalties paid to the authors, they might have a claim.</i></p>
<p>Actually, it will depend on the terms of the contract. If the contract stated that the publisher could discount up to a certain percentage of the hardbacks, the contract will be upheld&#8211;particularly if these &#8220;hot-shot authors&#8221; were represented by their own attorneys or agents&#8211;as opposed to Regnery&#8217;s attorneys. Corporations are free to use their best business judgment in such situations. Arguably, giving away or deep-discounting books is a cheaper marketing ploy than taking out several successive ads in the NYTimes or LATimes Book Review. And after the first sale, the purchaser is free to transfer the book according to his terms. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just hoping it is appealed in the 2nd Circuit, where a majority of the appointees are the sort of hard-core conservatives who favor business. Attorneys should never have this much fun&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;But we can’t discount the possibility that they’re just short-sighted, greedy, and stupid.&lt;/I&gt;

My money&#039;s on short-sighted, greedy and stupid enough to raid the gravy train for provisions BEFORE the wheels fall off, so at least they&#039;re sure they &quot;get theirs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But we can’t discount the possibility that they’re just short-sighted, greedy, and stupid.</i></p>
<p>My money&#8217;s on short-sighted, greedy and stupid enough to raid the gravy train for provisions BEFORE the wheels fall off, so at least they&#8217;re sure they &#8220;get theirs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331776</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;math question: how much is “jillions” minus “a pittance?” please show your work. thank you.&lt;/i&gt;

jillion - pittance = one shitload 

remember to carry the fuck of a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>math question: how much is “jillions” minus “a pittance?” please show your work. thank you.</i></p>
<p>jillion &#8211; pittance = one shitload </p>
<p>remember to carry the fuck of a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious P.A.T.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331753</link>
		<dc:creator>Notorious P.A.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Joel Mowbray, author of “Dangerous Diplomacy: How the State Department Threatens America’s Security,” said he was particularly disappointed in Regnery and Eagle because they had so championed conservative authors. “These guys created the conservative book market,” Mr. Mowbray said. “Before them, conservatives were having to fight, generally unsuccessfully, to get books published.”&lt;/i&gt;

What, you mean there&lt;b&gt; isn&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; a large market for books about why shipping middle class jobs to other countries is a good thing, or about what a good president W is, or about Bill Clinton murdering people with his bare hands????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Joel Mowbray, author of “Dangerous Diplomacy: How the State Department Threatens America’s Security,” said he was particularly disappointed in Regnery and Eagle because they had so championed conservative authors. “These guys created the conservative book market,” Mr. Mowbray said. “Before them, conservatives were having to fight, generally unsuccessfully, to get books published.”</i></p>
<p>What, you mean there<b> isn&#8217;t</b> a large market for books about why shipping middle class jobs to other countries is a good thing, or about what a good president W is, or about Bill Clinton murdering people with his bare hands????</p>
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		<title>By: Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; The Great Gravy Train Robbery</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331743</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; The Great Gravy Train Robbery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it looks like everyone&#8217;s making popcorn for the big Regnery suit, looking forward eagerly to the discovery phase in which we may finally [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SamFromUtah</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331722</link>
		<dc:creator>SamFromUtah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;No one could have predicted that wingnut greed would triumph over wingnut ideology.&lt;/i&gt;

I certainly couldn&#039;t have - they&#039;re very nearly indistinguishable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No one could have predicted that wingnut greed would triumph over wingnut ideology.</i></p>
<p>I certainly couldn&#8217;t have &#8211; they&#8217;re very nearly indistinguishable.</p>
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		<title>By: blogenfreude</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331700</link>
		<dc:creator>blogenfreude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one could have predicted that wingnut greed would triumph over wingnut ideology.</description>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331664</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I work with hundreds of average Americans and at least 75% of them feel they have a personal relationship with someone... who they have never met.&lt;/i&gt;

Is that counting religion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I work with hundreds of average Americans and at least 75% of them feel they have a personal relationship with someone&#8230; who they have never met.</i></p>
<p>Is that counting religion?</p>
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		<title>By: Patkin</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331658</link>
		<dc:creator>Patkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doodle Bean,

I suppose. But to me, it just seems like the beginnings of that lady who thought David Letterman loved her and was communicating his affections by blinking on camera during his monologues.

Y&#039;know, insane stalking justifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doodle Bean,</p>
<p>I suppose. But to me, it just seems like the beginnings of that lady who thought David Letterman loved her and was communicating his affections by blinking on camera during his monologues.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, insane stalking justifications.</p>
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		<title>By: Doodle Bean</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331637</link>
		<dc:creator>Doodle Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patkin,

I work with hundreds of average Americans and at least 75% of them feel they have a personal relationship with someone - a politician, a celebrity, a criminal even - who they have never met.

I don&#039;t get it either, but the operational word is &#039;feel&#039;.  They just &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt; a connection, ergo that connection exists. 

From the co-worker who is convinced The Rock is going to marry her now that he is getting divorced to the manager who is &#039;personally let down by George W. Bush&#039;s failure in leadership&#039;, they all feel some emotional connection.  No amount of logic budges it.

I still haven&#039;t figured out how to work with it.  All I can do is not step on their fantasies because then... oh mama!  Do they ever get mad!

That&#039;s why I pick on wingnuts on-line; I can&#039;t do it at work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patkin,</p>
<p>I work with hundreds of average Americans and at least 75% of them feel they have a personal relationship with someone &#8211; a politician, a celebrity, a criminal even &#8211; who they have never met.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it either, but the operational word is &#8216;feel&#8217;.  They just <i>feel</i> a connection, ergo that connection exists. </p>
<p>From the co-worker who is convinced The Rock is going to marry her now that he is getting divorced to the manager who is &#8216;personally let down by George W. Bush&#8217;s failure in leadership&#8217;, they all feel some emotional connection.  No amount of logic budges it.</p>
<p>I still haven&#8217;t figured out how to work with it.  All I can do is not step on their fantasies because then&#8230; oh mama!  Do they ever get mad!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I pick on wingnuts on-line; I can&#8217;t do it at work!</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331598</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Call me lookist, but I’d be mad at the world if I had to face that visage in the mirror everyday, too.&lt;/i&gt;

Can you say sammich?

I knew y&#039;could...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Call me lookist, but I’d be mad at the world if I had to face that visage in the mirror everyday, too.</i></p>
<p>Can you say sammich?</p>
<p>I knew y&#8217;could&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Fishbone McGonigle</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331596</link>
		<dc:creator>Fishbone McGonigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finkle is Einhorn….Einhorn is Finkle!!!&lt;/i&gt;

Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finkle is Einhorn….Einhorn is Finkle!!!</i></p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331578</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met Joel Mobray once. He&#039;s an asshole. (and still unenlisted)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met Joel Mobray once. He&#8217;s an asshole. (and still unenlisted)</p>
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		<title>By: t4toby</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7789.html#comment-331574</link>
		<dc:creator>t4toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravyboarding. 

LOLOLOLzerZ!!!!1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravyboarding. </p>
<p>LOLOLOLzerZ!!!!1!</p>
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