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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-333456</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.A.  - Wow - that is even worse than I thought.  You can buy one new for 23K and here they are spending $44K to convert one to a plug in.  If this is the same car - I guess that is about $60K on a car for doing homeless outreach.  

I might suggest that that money might be better spent elsewhere, consensus position among most posters hereabouts seems to be that the only thing you can do when mentioning the homeless is just bow your head reverently .  Any suggestion that the $60K might have been better spent on, oh, I don&#039;t know, soup or methadone, obviously springs from some hatred of the homeless so I won&#039;t say anything.

Oh, and the drummers on hippy hill hit the 420, not the crack pipe - you can smell it all the way over on the tennis courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.A.  &#8211; Wow &#8211; that is even worse than I thought.  You can buy one new for 23K and here they are spending $44K to convert one to a plug in.  If this is the same car &#8211; I guess that is about $60K on a car for doing homeless outreach.  </p>
<p>I might suggest that that money might be better spent elsewhere, consensus position among most posters hereabouts seems to be that the only thing you can do when mentioning the homeless is just bow your head reverently .  Any suggestion that the $60K might have been better spent on, oh, I don&#8217;t know, soup or methadone, obviously springs from some hatred of the homeless so I won&#8217;t say anything.</p>
<p>Oh, and the drummers on hippy hill hit the 420, not the crack pipe &#8211; you can smell it all the way over on the tennis courts.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Aristophanes</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-333097</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Aristophanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, tde, you should totally Confederate Yankee the SF Homeless Outreach Program on this matter of grave importance. You could be like, &quot;Where&#039;s the documentary evidence that shows that you &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; have a fleet of expensive electric hybrid cars delivering crack to the drum circle on Hippie Hill? Hmmm? I&#039;m a citizen journalist, dammit, and I demand answers!&quot;

Here is their publicly available contact information. Keep in mind, those shifty homeless lovers move shop mid-week to dodge John Doe-types such as yourself.

(415) 401-2660  Monday - Tuesday
(415) 554-8471  Wednesday - Friday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, tde, you should totally Confederate Yankee the SF Homeless Outreach Program on this matter of grave importance. You could be like, &#8220;Where&#8217;s the documentary evidence that shows that you <i>don&#8217;t</i> have a fleet of expensive electric hybrid cars delivering crack to the drum circle on Hippie Hill? Hmmm? I&#8217;m a citizen journalist, dammit, and I demand answers!&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is their publicly available contact information. Keep in mind, those shifty homeless lovers move shop mid-week to dodge John Doe-types such as yourself.</p>
<p>(415) 401-2660  Monday &#8211; Tuesday<br />
(415) 554-8471  Wednesday &#8211; Friday</p>
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		<title>By: D. Aristophanes</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-333096</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Aristophanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But, then again, when I was riding into work this morning, I was passed by a shiny new Prius hybrid with a blue sticker on the door for the City of SF, “Homeless Outreach Program”. I guess the thinking goes that you can’t really reach out to the homeless in an old Civic .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, tde, I did some poking around the Googlenets, searching for &#039;San Francisco Homeless Outreach Program Prius&#039; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgov.org/site/bdsupvrs_page.asp?id=65321&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this is all I could find&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;071145 [Accept and Expend Regional Grant - Department of the Environment]&lt;/b&gt;

Resolution authorizing the Department of the Environment (SF Environment) to accept and expend grant funds, in the amount of $44,000 from the Bay Area Air Quality Management District (BAAQMD) to convert one Prius hybrid vehicle into a Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle for the purpose of public outreach and demonstration. Mayor presented.RECEIVED AND ASSIGNED to City Operations and Neighborhood Services Committee.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s from the SF Board of Supes legislation calendar of July 31, 2007. So what it looks like to me is that the Supes greenlighted a Prius for &#039;public outreach and demonstration&#039;, then maybe somebody said, hey, let&#039;s give it to the Homeless Outreach people, that&#039;s a pretty visible program.

I don&#039;t know, I only Gazoogled for, like, 2.4 seconds. I could be wrong. Maybe it&#039;s like you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, then again, when I was riding into work this morning, I was passed by a shiny new Prius hybrid with a blue sticker on the door for the City of SF, “Homeless Outreach Program”. I guess the thinking goes that you can’t really reach out to the homeless in an old Civic .</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, tde, I did some poking around the Googlenets, searching for &#8216;San Francisco Homeless Outreach Program Prius&#8217; and <a href="http://www.sfgov.org/site/bdsupvrs_page.asp?id=65321" rel="nofollow">this is all I could find</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>071145 [Accept and Expend Regional Grant - Department of the Environment]</b></p>
<p>Resolution authorizing the Department of the Environment (SF Environment) to accept and expend grant funds, in the amount of $44,000 from the Bay Area Air Quality Management District (BAAQMD) to convert one Prius hybrid vehicle into a Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle for the purpose of public outreach and demonstration. Mayor presented.RECEIVED AND ASSIGNED to City Operations and Neighborhood Services Committee.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s from the SF Board of Supes legislation calendar of July 31, 2007. So what it looks like to me is that the Supes greenlighted a Prius for &#8216;public outreach and demonstration&#8217;, then maybe somebody said, hey, let&#8217;s give it to the Homeless Outreach people, that&#8217;s a pretty visible program.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I only Gazoogled for, like, 2.4 seconds. I could be wrong. Maybe it&#8217;s like you say.</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332921</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, meant to say that is what I would expect a biscuit to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, meant to say that is what I would expect a biscuit to say.</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332920</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MzNicky - that just I would expect a woman to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MzNicky &#8211; that just I would expect a woman to say.</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tde: Since I know it must mean a lot to you, I give you the last word on this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tde: Since I know it must mean a lot to you, I give you the last word on this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332913</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it makes sense now:

Okay, t-deous, quit lifting from my biscuits to rag on previous biscuits before you get to my biscuits to rag on me, no doubt with liftings from the biscuits of previous others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it makes sense now:</p>
<p>Okay, t-deous, quit lifting from my biscuits to rag on previous biscuits before you get to my biscuits to rag on me, no doubt with liftings from the biscuits of previous others.</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332911</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MzNicky - Oh now I remember you.  You were the one who - along with Doodle - was picking through my posts to decide if I was a man or a woman.

Very post-feminist of you there MzNicky - assuming you are a gal, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MzNicky &#8211; Oh now I remember you.  You were the one who &#8211; along with Doodle &#8211; was picking through my posts to decide if I was a man or a woman.</p>
<p>Very post-feminist of you there MzNicky &#8211; assuming you are a gal, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332901</link>
		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I hope you know what you are talking about, because I sure can’t make any sense of that.&lt;/i&gt;

Quelle surprise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hope you know what you are talking about, because I sure can’t make any sense of that.</i></p>
<p>Quelle surprise!</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332899</link>
		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. And if you&#039;re going to snidely do the &quot;[sic]&quot; and cute-quotes of others&#039; misspellings and grammatical gaffes, I&#039;ll totally enjoy going back through your comments on this thread (alone!) and do the same. Except it&#039;d be a monumentally lengthy comment, and I have more respect for the S,N! blog boys and girl than to inflict that on anyone. Even on an otherwise dead thread that&#039;s about to go on to its great reward in Archives heaven.

But, &#039;s up to U, dickwad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. And if you&#8217;re going to snidely do the &#8220;[sic]&#8221; and cute-quotes of others&#8217; misspellings and grammatical gaffes, I&#8217;ll totally enjoy going back through your comments on this thread (alone!) and do the same. Except it&#8217;d be a monumentally lengthy comment, and I have more respect for the S,N! blog boys and girl than to inflict that on anyone. Even on an otherwise dead thread that&#8217;s about to go on to its great reward in Archives heaven.</p>
<p>But, &#8216;s up to U, dickwad.</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332898</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Okay, t-deous, quit lifting from my comments to rag on previous commenters before you get to my comment to rag on me, no doubt with liftings from the comments of previous others.&lt;/i&gt;

I hope you know what you are talking about, because I sure can&#039;t make any sense of that . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Okay, t-deous, quit lifting from my comments to rag on previous commenters before you get to my comment to rag on me, no doubt with liftings from the comments of previous others.</i></p>
<p>I hope you know what you are talking about, because I sure can&#8217;t make any sense of that . . .</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
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		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MzNicky - I hope you feel better after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MzNicky &#8211; I hope you feel better after that.</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332895</link>
		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, t-deous, quit lifting from my comments to rag on previous commenters before you get to my comment to rag on me, no doubt with liftings from the comments of previous others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, t-deous, quit lifting from my comments to rag on previous commenters before you get to my comment to rag on me, no doubt with liftings from the comments of previous others.</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332894</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am not sure why you think that someone working for the city has a “hybid” car, but not a home. &lt;/i&gt;

You are the one talking about &quot;homeless case workers&quot;, not me.  I see that the lobotomy took out your sense of humor, tool

&lt;i&gt;Expressing support for the purchase of clean air vehicles by the government is hardly “preachin’ it loud from up there on you [sic]high horse”&lt;/i&gt;

The problem is you are preachy and insufferable that you think it is normal.  Reread your post where you talk about me not being able to &quot;udnerstand&quot; global warming and so forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am not sure why you think that someone working for the city has a “hybid” car, but not a home. </i></p>
<p>You are the one talking about &#8220;homeless case workers&#8221;, not me.  I see that the lobotomy took out your sense of humor, tool</p>
<p><i>Expressing support for the purchase of clean air vehicles by the government is hardly “preachin’ it loud from up there on you [sic]high horse”</i></p>
<p>The problem is you are preachy and insufferable that you think it is normal.  Reread your post where you talk about me not being able to &#8220;udnerstand&#8221; global warming and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Lord in Heaven! Is t-deous &lt;b&gt;still&lt;/b&gt; being a total dick on this poor beleaguered thread? WHAT a crashing bore. Hey, Mr. &quot;I don&#039;t need to give no steenkin&#039; link&quot; Guy: Give it up already. You are SO in over your head at this site. Or has that not dawned on you yet? Nah, probably not, given your track record for disingenuousness, your penchant for gratuitously insulting your intellectual superiors, and your total lack of a funny bone, all of which indicate you&#039;re exceedingly out of your element here and don&#039;t even realize it. It&#039;s sad, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord in Heaven! Is t-deous <b>still</b> being a total dick on this poor beleaguered thread? WHAT a crashing bore. Hey, Mr. &#8220;I don&#8217;t need to give no steenkin&#8217; link&#8221; Guy: Give it up already. You are SO in over your head at this site. Or has that not dawned on you yet? Nah, probably not, given your track record for disingenuousness, your penchant for gratuitously insulting your intellectual superiors, and your total lack of a funny bone, all of which indicate you&#8217;re exceedingly out of your element here and don&#8217;t even realize it. It&#8217;s sad, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure why you think that someone working for the city has a &quot;hybid&quot; car, but not a home.  Then again, you left all rationality long ago in this thread.

Expressing support for the purchase of clean air vehicles by the government is hardly &quot;preachin’ it loud from up there on you [sic]high horse&quot;, but then again, you left all rationality long ago in this thread.  but I repeat myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure why you think that someone working for the city has a &#8220;hybid&#8221; car, but not a home.  Then again, you left all rationality long ago in this thread.</p>
<p>Expressing support for the purchase of clean air vehicles by the government is hardly &#8220;preachin’ it loud from up there on you [sic]high horse&#8221;, but then again, you left all rationality long ago in this thread.  but I repeat myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how it comes back to you demanding proof of another&#039;s argument.</description>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
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		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yes, tde it is not only possible but likely that the feds would provide grant money for cities to buy Priuses as city cars. Perhaps you have heard of global warming/car emissions? (and so this responds to your “pricey little car” issue. Cities aren’t going to buy used cars. Outfitting government vehicles with clean air technology is actually pretty cool. I am not surprised however, that you do not udnerstand this.)&lt;/i&gt;

By, where to begin with this one.  Do you have any evidence - any at all - that there is some federal program handing out grants to cities to buy only Toyota Prius&#039;?  Any at all - or are you just making stuff up?  

And, even if there were such a program that would just mean that the federal government is involved in absurd spending programs.  (Imagine that.)

And you are probably right, that you &quot;udnerstand&quot; more about global warming that I do.  If you will re-read my post above, you will notice that I said I was riding to work.  That was on a bicycle.  Not in a car or even in some carbon spewing bus.  But you just keep preachin&#039; it loud from up there on you high horse, sister!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes, tde it is not only possible but likely that the feds would provide grant money for cities to buy Priuses as city cars. Perhaps you have heard of global warming/car emissions? (and so this responds to your “pricey little car” issue. Cities aren’t going to buy used cars. Outfitting government vehicles with clean air technology is actually pretty cool. I am not surprised however, that you do not udnerstand this.)</i></p>
<p>By, where to begin with this one.  Do you have any evidence &#8211; any at all &#8211; that there is some federal program handing out grants to cities to buy only Toyota Prius&#8217;?  Any at all &#8211; or are you just making stuff up?  </p>
<p>And, even if there were such a program that would just mean that the federal government is involved in absurd spending programs.  (Imagine that.)</p>
<p>And you are probably right, that you &#8220;udnerstand&#8221; more about global warming that I do.  If you will re-read my post above, you will notice that I said I was riding to work.  That was on a bicycle.  Not in a car or even in some carbon spewing bus.  But you just keep preachin&#8217; it loud from up there on you high horse, sister!</p>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7779.html#comment-332875</link>
		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeless case worker?  Should we get them a home before we get them a hybid car?</description>
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		<title>By: tde</title>
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		<dc:creator>tde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;this was before you clarified that you were refering to the outrage that a city car was a Prius, not a homeless case worker’s personal car&lt;/i&gt;

Here is what I originally posted:

&lt;i&gt;I was passed by a shiny new Prius hybrid with a blue sticker on the door for the City of SF, “Homeless Outreach Program”. &lt;/i&gt;

I am so sorry that you were confused by that.  

&lt;i&gt;I am sad to report that tde does not apparently understand how the governments work.&lt;/i&gt;

Well you sure got me there.  I was a budget analyst for the Senate finance committee for a small north-eastern state for 3 years and I was perpetually baffled by the programs.  Still am. 

&lt;i&gt;Yes, tde it is not only possible but likely that the feds would provide grant money for cities to buy Priuses as city cars.&lt;/i&gt;

Do you have a link for that or are you just making shit up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>this was before you clarified that you were refering to the outrage that a city car was a Prius, not a homeless case worker’s personal car</i></p>
<p>Here is what I originally posted:</p>
<p><i>I was passed by a shiny new Prius hybrid with a blue sticker on the door for the City of SF, “Homeless Outreach Program”. </i></p>
<p>I am so sorry that you were confused by that.  </p>
<p><i>I am sad to report that tde does not apparently understand how the governments work.</i></p>
<p>Well you sure got me there.  I was a budget analyst for the Senate finance committee for a small north-eastern state for 3 years and I was perpetually baffled by the programs.  Still am. </p>
<p><i>Yes, tde it is not only possible but likely that the feds would provide grant money for cities to buy Priuses as city cars.</i></p>
<p>Do you have a link for that or are you just making shit up?</p>
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