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Hey everybody, I got a question!
There will never be a comprehensive explanation for the reasons behind the wingnuts’ hate of Hillary Clinton. In this corner, Henry Mark Holzer:
Hillary Clinton: Immoral or Amoral?
Come back in the next few weeks as Holzer poses the following questions:
- Paris Hilton: Whore or Slut?
- Barack Obama: al Qaida Lover or al Qaida Sympathizer?
- Bill Clinton: Rapist or Sexual Predator?
- David Broder: Senile or Out to Lunch?
- Seb of Sadly, No!: Sarcastic French-Canadian Smart Ass or Mr. Funny Pants?
- Pam Atlas: Lunatic or Ann Althouse Without a Law Degree?
Those who have been here before won’t be surprised to know the time has come for you to ask your version of a Holzer question.






Snowwy said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:19
H.M. Holzer: Stupid or Lying?
Bistroist said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:24
Teh Clenis: Great Taste or Less Filling?
Tender Mercenaries said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:24
His most recent book ‘The Supreme Court Opinions of Clarence Thomas (1991-2006)’ has just been published.
Is that one of those fake books where the joke is that the pages are blank? Someone bought me one entitled “Erotic Irish Fiction”.
billy pilgrim said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:26
Dick Cheney: The Source of All Evil, or DarthVader with a shotgun?
billy pilgrim said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:27
Any Random Republican: Tax-cheating sexual predator, or sexually repressed swindler?
RobW said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:30
Ann Althouse: Lunatic, or Pam Atlas with a law degree?
El Cid said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:34
Ronald Reagan: Moral leader of the Free World or Creator of All That Is Holy?
Rufus said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:38
David Horowitz: Mendacious Cock or Pricktacious Liar?
Rufus said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:39
S-CHIP: socialized medicine, or wealth re-distribution?
Kathleen said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:40
Jonah Goldberg: Moron or Moran?
t4toby said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:40
Michelle Malkin: Mendacious Anchor Baby or Bat Boy, all growed up?
southern quebec said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:41
Seb of Sadly, No!: Sarcastic French-Canadian Smart Ass or Mr. Funny Pants?
Should be: Seb: Sarcastic French-Canadian Smart Ass ou M. Poutine?
arky said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:41
Kevin Bristow: Closet Case or Bi-Curious?
Ann Coulter: Pre-op or Post-op?
t4toby said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:41
Dammit Rufus! That’s my adjective!
Righteous Bubba said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:41
David Vitter: Potty-Trained or Whoremonger?
t4toby said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:43
Debra Cagan: Greasy Raelian or Trans-sexual Borg?
t4toby said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:43
Bob Allen: Blower, or Blowee?
sophie brown said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:44
Holzer’s wife Erika had a mentor-protegee relationship with Ayn Rand. http://www.erikaholzer.com/
Kathleen said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:44
Entire Wingnut Blogosphere: Tools or Fools?
MrWonderful said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:49
Dinesh D’Souza: Vile Propagandist or Insufferable Twerp?
t4toby said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:50
Islamo-fascism Week: Like school on Saturday, or Sunday school on Friday?
MrWonderful said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:52
Sean Hannity: Feisty But Lovable Dauphin of the Potato People, or Rabid Dog-Boy Mascot of the Psycho-Patriotic Front?
mellowjohn said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:54
greater wingnuttia: stupid fuckers or just fucking stupid?
Seanly said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:55
Pat Robertson: two wetsuits or one? With a follow up of lubed or dry…
Pam Atlas: Crazy or insane?
Herr Doktor Bimler said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:55
Malt whisky: all-purpose pain-killer, or a doorway to the happy place?
t4toby said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:57
Malt Liquor: all purpose brain killer, or a doorway to a scrappy place?
Herr Doktor Bimler said,
October 30, 2007 at 0:58
a mentor-protegee relationship
I read that first as “proto-manatee relationship”.
GumbyAnne said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:02
A fundie co-worker of mine once told me “You are on Immoral, you’re just AMORAL.”
I guess he meant it as some sort of consolation prize. Like he wanted to reassure me that just because I did not hate teh gays to the level that he did, it did not make me el diablo or anything. No, just a morally retarded idiot.
These people are capable of a level of condescending that boggles my mind.
Nimrod Gently said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:02
In character:
Hillary Clinton: Devil or Satan?
Bush: Just or Wise?
Out:
Michael Savage: piece of shit or lump of crap?
(I was going to say “gay” but that’s not an “or” question)
leo durocher said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:03
Tucker Carlson: Turdlington Q. Pussbucket, or Pukington J. Pissalot?
(: Tom :) said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:08
Kaye Grogan: blind to fashion or dresses funny?
Bill Oh!Really?: overbearing bully or aggressively intimidating?
Smiling Mortician said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:09
George W. Bush: Dangerously uninspired minimally-educated faux-stoic stubbornly fascist child of absolute privilege or . . . I’m sorry, what was the question?
Dr Zen said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:10
K-Lo: Virgin or never had sex
Mark Noonan: straitjacket or padded cell
proto-manatee said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:14
Um, I’d really prefer it if you kept discussions of my relationships private.
Thank yew…
AkaDad said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:15
Debbie Schlussel: Hate monger or just intolerant?
HumboldtBlue said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:19
NRO: Brown shirts versus skins; or skinheads versus the looming Caliphate?
Rufus said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:19
t4toby: awesome adjective creator, or God incarnate?
Philly Boy said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:26
Atlas’ jugs: Surgically enhanced or enhanced surgically?
Jonah Goldberg: The Doughy Pantload or Doughbob Loadpants?
AkaDad said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:26
George Bush: Horrible President or worst President ever?
HumboldtBlue said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:27
Hugh Hewitt: Shemale or just a guy with big boobs; Ann Coulter: Shemale or just a man with small boobs?
Pam Atlas said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:27
Adolph Hitler: Ubermensch, or run of the mill mensch?
HumboldtBlue said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:30
Scott Beauchamp: Soldier, or Islamic-loving-jihad-enabling-America-hating liberal?
HumboldtBlue said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:33
Pabst Blue Ribbon: Favorite beer of hard-working, salt-of-the-earth type folks, or, manna from heaven?
J— said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:39
Hillary hatred: focused masculine anxiety or transposed Bill animosity?
MzNicky said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:40
Polythene PamAtlas: Drunk or hung over?
MzNicky said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:42
Ass o’ Spades: Stupid virulent misogynst or self-loathing closeted gay?
Whee! This could go on all night.
Leonard Pierce said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:42
Al Gore: ineffectual liar, or demonic neo-Marxist?
Foehammer: useful tool, or useful tool?
Muslims: demons, or devils?
Ace of Spades: Ben Shapiro all grown up, or Confederate Yankee without a grill?
Moral relativism: collegiate brainwashing technique, or handy way to justify your support of torture?
James Lileks: fusspot, or milksop?
Liberals: living joke or undying threat?
AkaDad said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:43
Beer: Tasty beverage or what makes me palatable to women?
MzNicky said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:43
All of the Rethuglican candidates for president:
Fucking stupid or stupid fuckers?
OneMan said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:44
Kyle Bristow: Pusillanimous asshat or bloviating military service dodger?
Pere Ubu said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:47
Prussian Blue: Creepy white supremacist pedo-jerkoff material or… or…
…
dammit, I got nuthin.
Pere Ubu said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:50
BTW, from The Debraining Machine sunday-before-last:
Hillary Clinton: Threat, Or Menace?
King Quaker said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:51
Megan McArdle: Stupid twit or Ivy League grad?
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:53
Yep.
HumboldtBlue said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:54
Rudy Giuliani: Serial adulterer and cohort of organized crime, or, another slimy East Coast politician who is a serial adulterer and also a cohort of organized crime?
Fozetti said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:55
Jeff Goldstein: Illiterate or Aliterate?
Ben said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:55
I came over to SN! to see if there was a take on the right’s jackassery over Greenwald’s post. Balloon Juice has brought out the big guns, but alas, all is quiet here. Too bad, because no one is better at mocking Right Blogoland.
JK47 said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:56
Kyle Bristow: Pitcher or catcher?
HumboldtBlue said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:56
As C&L states: write your own caption ….http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/capta0f4192f8874490ea5975283c73a6d76giuliani_2008_nhjc107.jpg
Fozetti said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:57
Er- I meant J. goldberg
Fozetti said,
October 30, 2007 at 1:58
I apologize to anyone named Jeff Goldstein.
sophie brown said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:01
caliphate: islamic theocracy or fine brand of cookware?
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:05
Smith and Wesson shot down in after hours: Global Warming Victims, or Masters of Business Administration?
P.S. I guess I’m going to have to explain this for all you sane people not interested in reading press releases:
a) Among these factors were softness in the market for hunting rifles and shotguns, driven by lower than expected consumer demand, a buildup of pre-season retail inventories, and unseasonably warm autumn weather, which decreased retail traffic and compressed the fall hunting season.
b) Smith & Wesson says lower demand may affect results
fish said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:10
David Horowitz: panties or underoos?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:15
WTF? There is ABSOLUTELY a comprehensive explanation of why “we all hate Hillary Clinton.”
The Corporate Media told us to! Jesus, have you watched Matthews lately, like, the last 8 years?
Frontrunners: Power whores, or sluts for power?
DEMIZE! said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:17
dIneSh d’SoUza or d’SoUza dIneSh…
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:21
Charles Krauthammer: War porn fetishist or bloodied tampon masturbator?
Bill Kristol: Blood-thirsty vampire or death/violence-loving fuck?
M. Malkin: Stone-crazy, or mirror-less minority?
Charles Johnson: Stupid, or retarded?
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:21
Mickey Kaus: Goat fucker, or fucking goat?
tb said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:23
Rudolf Giuliani: out of his mind on crazy pills or wacked out on the screamers?
John Edwards: mincing sissypants or anally-receptive anti-male?
Ace Of Spades: vaginaphobe or cockophile?
And, not that I’ve thought of him since 2004 but somebody mentioned him, Jeff Goldstein: incontinent from the meds or impotent from the meds?
MrWonderful said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:23
Fred Barnes: Horse’s ass or equine hindquarters?
tb said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:27
Oh, and Glen Beck: gesticulating moron or pig-ignorant sack of clownshit?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:28
DICK Cheney: Bedwetting chickenhawk of epic proportions, or paranoid schizophrenic?
Ah, the list is truly endless.
George Bush the Lesser: Messianic overlord or dumber than my cousin the psychopath?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:31
Condi Rice: Lesbian dominatrix, or Bush piece of ass?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:33
Laura Bush: Prescription-stoned hippie, or orally challenged?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:35
Michael Chertoff: Pussy-whipped asshole, or power-blowing slutwhore?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:36
Mickey Kaus: Goat-fucker.
tb said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:40
George W. Bush: Jesus Christ returned to Earth or Yahweh himself, sheathed in mortal guise?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:44
Rudy Giuliani: Fascist authoritarian, or fascist authoritarian?
Arky said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:46
(Shit, I meant Kyle)
Focus on the Family: Ass sucking shit wads or Shit sucking ass wads?
AkaDad said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:48
D.A.: Most awesome person in the world or a God in mortals clothing?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:52
Atlas Juggs: Fake tits, or bad songs?
Pam Oshry: Love my tits, or love my politics? OK, my tits are artificially sweet. My politics are realistically insane.
Choose, or die to the Muslim hordes.
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:54
Yo, Pam! I’ll take the tits to the hordes, if I have a vote!
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 2:58
Sorry, Pam.
Shoulda gone with, “My fake tits, AND the Muslim hordes! You don’t have to choose, you get both!”
Sincere apologies.
Doodle-Bean said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:09
Politicians: corporate whores or mendacious money-grubbers?
billy pilgrim said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:12
J-Pod: Bear in the water, or proto-manatee?
MrWonderful said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:21
Dennis Prager: Big, Baggy Cobra for God’s Sake, or Big-Bra Godforsaken Cobag?
montag said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:21
Cheney: a bad shot or just a drunk?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:23
Ann Coulter: Dick carrying cunt, or cunt carrying dick?
AkaDad said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:27
Rudy Giuliani: Serial adulterer or just incredibly horny?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:30
Damn. We’ve all been there.
Shoulda used, “wielding.”
trilateral chairman said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:35
Jonah Goldberg: Lazy wingnut welfare queen, or incompetent legacy hire?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:39
Boy, this is fun!
Dan Reihl: IQ of 80, or IQ of less than 80?
Mr. Malkin: Disabled loser, or wingnut welfare King Of All Wingnuttians?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:41
Jonah Goldberg: Wingut welfare King, Cheetoh eating champion, or longest…book…publisher…ever.
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:42
Sorry, trilateral. Had the same name in mind, obviously.
I’m running out. Suggestions welcome.
Arky said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:44
After reading the next post:
Uncle Jimbo: Cowering weasel who goes through more Depends(TM) that David Vitter, or psychotic apeshit freak of nature who goes through more prescription meds than Rush Limbaugh?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:54
Chris Matthews: Hillary-hating misogynist, or total envious whoremonger?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:55
Tucker Carlson: Fake libertarian GOP slut, or plain ol’ slut?
Arky said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:59
Condisleeza Rice: Lying piss off sack of shit, or slut trashcan scummish dirt bag bitch?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:00
Fred Hiatt: Godwin’s Law wet dream, or just plain fascist?
Prolefeed said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:01
Hillary: Lenin or Trotsky?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:05
Hillary: Bill C. or George the Lesser?
Michelle Malkin's Left Testicle said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:08
Mickey Kaus: Goat sucker, or fresh cream enthusiast?
Prolefeed said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:09
Fred Thompson: bucket of lard drippings, or old tire?
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:15
Charles Kruathammer (read: German Hammer): Bitter cripple, insane pyschiatrist, or blood-loving war cheerleader?
All of the above is also a valid choice.
Forgive me, for I hate him most of all. In his defense, it’s hard to escape one’s own paradigm, Charles’ being that he’ll never actually have to fight a war, even though he loves him some blood and death and maiming to the extent he’s aroused by it.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:16
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 3:42
Sorry, trilateral. Had the same name in mind, obviously.
I’m running out. Suggestions welcome.
Take a deep breath there, cowboy!
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:18
Cheap and perfunctory build-on:
Fred Thompson: Lazy candidate, or young-hot-slut-loving rich and comfortable dude who could give a shit, and has the polls to prove it works?
Fred Thompson: Worked with too many gay people to trust, or will not be at his “event?”
John O said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:22
I have been fairly accused of not being able to let go, ifthethunderdontgetya.
I plead guilty. I’m very pitbullish when I get the bit between my teeth. You do NOT want to try to wear me out in that situation. :-)
But it still is funny, as is this entire blog and most all of its commenters.
Sorry. Need to go to bed, anyway, as it is a school night.
Keep up the good work.
Candy said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:38
Charles Johnson: A idiot or an idiot?
Ignobility said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:56
Bill O’Reilly: Racist or mother fucking iced-tea lover.
George Johnston said,
October 30, 2007 at 4:58
George Bush - miserable failure or abject failure?
Tara the anti-social social worker said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:09
NOBODY’S said “George W. Bush: Great President or The Greatest President”?
Colbert will wag his finger at you all, and possibly even put you on notice.
Tara the anti-social social worker said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:11
Coulter: psychopath or sociopath?
Actually that works for pretty much any wingnut.
Atlas Bugs said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:19
Adolf Hitler: Uberman or Superman?
stringonastick said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:26
Dinesh D Sousa: a small kitchen table or a whiney little prick with undescended testicles?
J. A. Baker said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:36
Jeff Goldstein: Cock-slapper, or cold-cocked?
Stephen Colbert: Man of the Year, or Man of the Year?
Chris Matthews: right-wing tool, or Clinton-hating right-wing tool?
tb said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:43
Michael Savage: scum of the Earth or wart on the ass of society?
Albatross said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:47
So many of these are false choices. For example Paris Hilton can be BOTH. Or “George Bush: drunken moron or feckless pawn?” Answer, again, BOTH.
a different brad said,
October 30, 2007 at 5:53
Every right winger’s momma: cheap or just easy?
calling all toasters said,
October 30, 2007 at 6:03
Ann Althouse: wasted out of her gourd or, like, completely trashed?
lobbey said,
October 30, 2007 at 6:12
Mark Steyn: Racist Asshole or Homophobic Fuckhead
Sprezzatura said,
October 30, 2007 at 6:15
Amusing pseudonym or transparent sock-puppet?
tb said,
October 30, 2007 at 6:22
Albatross: nitpicking geek or fun-killing pedant?
Righteous Bubba said,
October 30, 2007 at 6:37
Albatross: broomstick up butt so big nothing else can get in there, or something else up butt that would similarly exclude any broomsticks?
Ruthie said,
October 30, 2007 at 7:12
Bobby Jindal: “Tough on corruption” or domestic outsourcing of graft?
Powerline’s Hindraker: Delusional or merely in denial?
kallikantzaroi said,
October 30, 2007 at 7:35
Feathers or lead?
Pinko Punko said,
October 30, 2007 at 9:44
Mr. Wonderful, that was awesome.
Hoosier X said,
October 30, 2007 at 11:07
George W. Bush: Great president, or greatest president?
atheist said,
October 30, 2007 at 11:50
Major US Media: Tools or Sycophants?
Eric (An Halibut) said,
October 30, 2007 at 12:14
Michael Fumento: sophisticated corporate shill or garden-variety douchebag?
Christopher Hitchens: principled enemy of islamofascism or hallucinating victim of delirium tremens?
Mitt Romney: hologram or android?
Dhalgren said,
October 30, 2007 at 15:38
Jeff Goldstein: Cock lover, or cock enthusiast?
Dan Someone said,
October 30, 2007 at 16:48
Southern California: flammable or inflammable?
atheist said,
October 30, 2007 at 17:53
Charles Johnson: A idiot or an idiot?
LOL
Duros62 said,
October 30, 2007 at 18:35
Rudy Guiliani: Glen or Glenda?
Duros62 said,
October 30, 2007 at 18:38
Condi Rice: Lesbian dominatrix, or Bush piece of ass?
Cn haz both? kthxbai.
jackd said,
October 30, 2007 at 20:00
From a classified ad in the back pages of Utney Reader around 1990, referring to C-plus Augustus’ Daddy:
Bush: Harmless Shrub or Noxious Weed?
Albatross said,
October 30, 2007 at 21:54
Duros, If you say “both” you’ll be called a nitpicking pedant with a stick up your butt!
Righteous Bubba said,
October 30, 2007 at 22:08
I’m gonna find me an insufferable grammarian and…
tb said,
October 30, 2007 at 22:37
Albatross: self-incriminatingly defensive or giant 300 lb. crybaby?
One of these days I want to get into a flame war using just “shorters”. Like “shorter you: ‘I’m history’s greatest douche’” and “oh yeah, well shorter me: you suck!”.
KUQ said,
October 31, 2007 at 0:12
Ann Coulter: shrill cadaver or shrieking corpse?
Zuzu said,
October 31, 2007 at 10:10
Kee-rist on a broomstick, Henry Mark Holzer??!!
This is the same self-described military awards expert, along with his wife, made complete idiots of themselves in 2004 when they proved that they don’t even know how to read a simple document.
For instance, the frenzy they whipped themselves into over a TYPO on Kerry’s DD214:
http://www.erikaholzer.com/article-kerry-mysterious-v.php
Not to mention that they didn’t seem to know how Silver Star citations are written or copies provided:
http://www.erikaholzer.com/article-kerry-puzzling-citations.php
You’d think they would have read the inspector general’s report before blathering away. You know, where it explained why there was more than one Silver Star citation?
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2004/jknavydocs.pdf
Even the Washington Times took the trouble to find that one out:
http://redleg07.blogspot.com/2004/10/fair-and-balanced-on-kerry.html
Normally you’d write these two off as doddering old fools, but given the intentional lies and slander they perpetrate, well, they’re just scum.
Duros62 said,
October 31, 2007 at 21:33
Que es mas macho?
Lightbulb or Schoolbus?