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		<title>By: buy cannabis seeds</title>
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		<dc:creator>buy cannabis seeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Montreal University</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montreal University</p>
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		<title>By: Buy marijuana seeds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buy marijuana seeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was Jonah appearing in Montreal?</description>
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		<title>By: GotDaFeevah</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7564.html#comment-316552</link>
		<dc:creator>GotDaFeevah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 05:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To pro-choice voters, it’s surely offensive to watch someone sacrifice the individual liberty of women for political expediency. But, morally, it just doesn’t seem as bad to me.&quot;

Wow, it is hard to believe that someone could so un self-consciously barter away the individual liberty of others.  I knew this guy was soulless, but i thought he at least had some shame.  Fuck him.  Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To pro-choice voters, it’s surely offensive to watch someone sacrifice the individual liberty of women for political expediency. But, morally, it just doesn’t seem as bad to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, it is hard to believe that someone could so un self-consciously barter away the individual liberty of others.  I knew this guy was soulless, but i thought he at least had some shame.  Fuck him.  Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartakus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7564.html#comment-316291</link>
		<dc:creator>Spartakus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You need to read Roe’s companion case, Doe v. Bolton. Health of the mother is defined to include everything from psychological issues to socio-economic harm. Shortly after Roe several states attempted prosecutions of third trimester abortions, but none succeeded because per Roe/Bolton and their definition of “health of the mother,” it is virtually impossible for a licensed physician to perform an illegal abortion until the moment of full delivery.&lt;/i&gt;

Sadly, No.  Doe v. Bolton preceded Roe v. Wade and made no reference to trimesters, as did Roe.  Furthermore, the Court explicitly rejected the proposition that abortion on demand should be legal through out the full term of the pregnancy, citing &quot;compelling state interest&quot;.  From the majority opinion:

&quot;The Court&#039;s decisions recognizing a right of privacy also acknowledge that some state regulation in areas protected by that right is appropriate.  As noted above, a state may properly assert important interests in safeguarding health, in maintaining medical standards, and in protecting potential life.  At some point in pregnancy, these respective interests become sufficiently compelling to sustain regulation of the factors that govern the abortion decision.  The privacy right involved, therefore, cannot be said to be absolute.  In fact, it is not clear to us that the claim asserted by some *amici* that one has an unlimited right to do with one&#039;s body as one pleases bears a close relationship to the right of privacy previously articulated in the Court&#039;s decisions.  The Court has refused to recognize an unlimited right of this kind in the past.&quot;

Jonah could have saved himself a lot of embarrassment by actually &lt;i&gt;reading&lt;/i&gt; the decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You need to read Roe’s companion case, Doe v. Bolton. Health of the mother is defined to include everything from psychological issues to socio-economic harm. Shortly after Roe several states attempted prosecutions of third trimester abortions, but none succeeded because per Roe/Bolton and their definition of “health of the mother,” it is virtually impossible for a licensed physician to perform an illegal abortion until the moment of full delivery.</i></p>
<p>Sadly, No.  Doe v. Bolton preceded Roe v. Wade and made no reference to trimesters, as did Roe.  Furthermore, the Court explicitly rejected the proposition that abortion on demand should be legal through out the full term of the pregnancy, citing &#8220;compelling state interest&#8221;.  From the majority opinion:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Court&#8217;s decisions recognizing a right of privacy also acknowledge that some state regulation in areas protected by that right is appropriate.  As noted above, a state may properly assert important interests in safeguarding health, in maintaining medical standards, and in protecting potential life.  At some point in pregnancy, these respective interests become sufficiently compelling to sustain regulation of the factors that govern the abortion decision.  The privacy right involved, therefore, cannot be said to be absolute.  In fact, it is not clear to us that the claim asserted by some *amici* that one has an unlimited right to do with one&#8217;s body as one pleases bears a close relationship to the right of privacy previously articulated in the Court&#8217;s decisions.  The Court has refused to recognize an unlimited right of this kind in the past.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jonah could have saved himself a lot of embarrassment by actually <i>reading</i> the decision.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7564.html#comment-316261</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Shortly after Roe several states attempted prosecutions of third trimester abortions, but none succeeded because per Roe/Bolton and their definition of “health of the mother,” it is virtually impossible for a licensed physician to perform an illegal abortion until the moment of full delivery.&lt;/i&gt;

Goes to show you the judiciary gets the key issue here.  

We&#039;re not short on people.  We&#039;re short on compassion.

Sheesh, the thing that pisses me off is how hard this is for some people to grasp...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shortly after Roe several states attempted prosecutions of third trimester abortions, but none succeeded because per Roe/Bolton and their definition of “health of the mother,” it is virtually impossible for a licensed physician to perform an illegal abortion until the moment of full delivery.</i></p>
<p>Goes to show you the judiciary gets the key issue here.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re not short on people.  We&#8217;re short on compassion.</p>
<p>Sheesh, the thing that pisses me off is how hard this is for some people to grasp&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Mona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If the State is interested in protecting fetal life after viability, it may go so far as to proscribe abortion during that period, except when it is necessary to preserve the life or health of the mother. [Emphasis added]&lt;/i&gt;

You need to read Roe&#039;s companion case, Doe v. Bolton. Health of the mother is defined to include everything from psychological issues to socio-economic harm. Shortly after Roe several states attempted prosecutions of third trimester abortions, but none succeeded because per Roe/Bolton and their definition of &quot;health of the mother,&quot; it is virtually impossible for a licensed physician to perform an illegal abortion until the moment of full delivery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If the State is interested in protecting fetal life after viability, it may go so far as to proscribe abortion during that period, except when it is necessary to preserve the life or health of the mother. [Emphasis added]</i></p>
<p>You need to read Roe&#8217;s companion case, Doe v. Bolton. Health of the mother is defined to include everything from psychological issues to socio-economic harm. Shortly after Roe several states attempted prosecutions of third trimester abortions, but none succeeded because per Roe/Bolton and their definition of &#8220;health of the mother,&#8221; it is virtually impossible for a licensed physician to perform an illegal abortion until the moment of full delivery.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;marrying a Canuck doesn’t help you all that much&lt;/i&gt;

I disagree, at least as far as immigration goes.  Other helpfulness is yours to sort out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>marrying a Canuck doesn’t help you all that much</i></p>
<p>I disagree, at least as far as immigration goes.  Other helpfulness is yours to sort out.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Je parle un petite peu de Francais aussi (fill in the accents and cedilles yourself; I’m lazy).&lt;/i&gt;

I think if you go to Quebec you get free French classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Je parle un petite peu de Francais aussi (fill in the accents and cedilles yourself; I’m lazy).</i></p>
<p>I think if you go to Quebec you get free French classes.</p>
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		<title>By: rob in toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob in toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I look terrible in go-go boots but .....</description>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lobbey, I wouldn&#039;t necessarily mind a nice Canadian girl, either.  I&#039;m good that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lobbey, I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily mind a nice Canadian girl, either.  I&#8217;m good that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7564.html#comment-316225</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can already do it, Rob!  &quot;Shedyule&quot;.  See?  &quot;Oot&quot;.  I would gladly eat my breakfast at Tim Horton&#039;s.  Je parle un petite peu de Francais aussi (fill in the accents and cedilles yourself; I&#039;m lazy).  I think Stephen Harper is a lunatic!  I&#039;m totally ready to be Canadian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can already do it, Rob!  &#8220;Shedyule&#8221;.  See?  &#8220;Oot&#8221;.  I would gladly eat my breakfast at Tim Horton&#8217;s.  Je parle un petite peu de Francais aussi (fill in the accents and cedilles yourself; I&#8217;m lazy).  I think Stephen Harper is a lunatic!  I&#8217;m totally ready to be Canadian!</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillian, whom I have it on good authority is Teh Hawt can pretty much get whatever canadian she wants, with or without go-go boots.  If I was a canadian, I&#039;d be looking at a South Beach vacation and a whirlwind romance, but hey, that&#039;s just me...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillian, whom I have it on good authority is Teh Hawt can pretty much get whatever canadian she wants, with or without go-go boots.  If I was a canadian, I&#8217;d be looking at a South Beach vacation and a whirlwind romance, but hey, that&#8217;s just me&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: lobbey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7564.html#comment-316219</link>
		<dc:creator>lobbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I just realized that it was Jillian who wrote the &quot;I want to move to Canada&quot;, sorry, gender mix up, damn my short attention span.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I just realized that it was Jillian who wrote the &#8220;I want to move to Canada&#8221;, sorry, gender mix up, damn my short attention span&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: lobbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>lobbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Xenos, in a few years I’ll have enough points to qualify for Canadian immigrant status. I’ve checked into it a bit, and it’s just the money part that is the real hassle at this point, unless I have a job offer or a spouse.&lt;/i&gt;

despite what the Canadian immigration form say, marrying a Canuck doesn&#039;t help you all that much, so don&#039;t just go marrying to get the little ol&#039; Blue passport (however, it has to be said, there are lots and lots of other reasons for marrying a Canuck lady, #1 being that most of them are sexy &amp; pissheads).

Except for Cathy Shaidie, obviously, and that stupid bint at some bar in Calgary, who threw me out a poor bar for swearing! Apart from those two, Canadian women are all pretty hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Xenos, in a few years I’ll have enough points to qualify for Canadian immigrant status. I’ve checked into it a bit, and it’s just the money part that is the real hassle at this point, unless I have a job offer or a spouse.</i></p>
<p>despite what the Canadian immigration form say, marrying a Canuck doesn&#8217;t help you all that much, so don&#8217;t just go marrying to get the little ol&#8217; Blue passport (however, it has to be said, there are lots and lots of other reasons for marrying a Canuck lady, #1 being that most of them are sexy &amp; pissheads).</p>
<p>Except for Cathy Shaidie, obviously, and that stupid bint at some bar in Calgary, who threw me out a poor bar for swearing! Apart from those two, Canadian women are all pretty hot.</p>
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		<title>By: rob in toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob in toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;or find that Canadians have a funny accent. (And we don’t mean the English-speaking ones).&lt;/blockquote&gt;Speaking as an English-speaking Canadian (from Nova Scotia) living in the USA I have to say that I get kidded constantly about my accent and the weird way that I pronounce certain words--schedule for instance.  Of course this is completely off topic so I will STFU now except to say &quot;Hi Jillian&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>or find that Canadians have a funny accent. (And we don’t mean the English-speaking ones).</p></blockquote>
<p>Speaking as an English-speaking Canadian (from Nova Scotia) living in the USA I have to say that I get kidded constantly about my accent and the weird way that I pronounce certain words&#8211;schedule for instance.  Of course this is completely off topic so I will STFU now except to say &#8220;Hi Jillian&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xenos, in a few years I&#039;ll have enough points to qualify for Canadian immigrant status.  I&#039;ve checked into it a bit, and it&#039;s just the money part that is the real hassle at this point, unless I have a job offer or a spouse.

And yeah, I&#039;m not too far from Hollywood.  I suppose I&#039;ll have to break my go-go boots out of storage and see if I can wrassle me up a Canadian boyfriend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xenos, in a few years I&#8217;ll have enough points to qualify for Canadian immigrant status.  I&#8217;ve checked into it a bit, and it&#8217;s just the money part that is the real hassle at this point, unless I have a job offer or a spouse.</p>
<p>And yeah, I&#8217;m not too far from Hollywood.  I suppose I&#8217;ll have to break my go-go boots out of storage and see if I can wrassle me up a Canadian boyfriend!</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;where they had communist skinheads who went around ambushing and beating the crap out of the fag-bashing and paki-bashing skinheads.&lt;/i&gt;

See, this is cool.  We oughta have hippie skinheads (but count me out.  I like my hair).  We oughta have union skinheads.  We oughta have SO MANY different skinheads that they all just go critical and start bashing each other with megan&#039;s 2x4 and stomping everybody with their doc martins.  

Huh huh.  That&#039;d be cool...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>where they had communist skinheads who went around ambushing and beating the crap out of the fag-bashing and paki-bashing skinheads.</i></p>
<p>See, this is cool.  We oughta have hippie skinheads (but count me out.  I like my hair).  We oughta have union skinheads.  We oughta have SO MANY different skinheads that they all just go critical and start bashing each other with megan&#8217;s 2&#215;4 and stomping everybody with their doc martins.  </p>
<p>Huh huh.  That&#8217;d be cool&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Scruffy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7564.html#comment-316179</link>
		<dc:creator>Scruffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I take the position that puppies and kittens are cute, and I don’t care what anybody else says!&lt;/i&gt;

Second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I take the position that puppies and kittens are cute, and I don’t care what anybody else says!</i></p>
<p>Second.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillian -

Are you near Hollywood, FL?  Half of Quebec decamps there for the worst of the winter, it seems.   I understand you teach - the last time I checked the NAFTA portions of immigration laws post-secondary teacher could qualify for visas pretty easily with a job offer.  This was a few years ago, though, and I expect much has changed.

As for Me, Mum, and Morgantaler, I remember a great concert of theirs at Concordia back in the summer of &#039;92.  Montreal is fun - the only place I have ever lived where they had communist skinheads who went around ambushing and beating the crap out of the fag-bashing and paki-bashing skinheads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillian -</p>
<p>Are you near Hollywood, FL?  Half of Quebec decamps there for the worst of the winter, it seems.   I understand you teach &#8211; the last time I checked the NAFTA portions of immigration laws post-secondary teacher could qualify for visas pretty easily with a job offer.  This was a few years ago, though, and I expect much has changed.</p>
<p>As for Me, Mum, and Morgantaler, I remember a great concert of theirs at Concordia back in the summer of &#8217;92.  Montreal is fun &#8211; the only place I have ever lived where they had communist skinheads who went around ambushing and beating the crap out of the fag-bashing and paki-bashing skinheads.</p>
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		<title>By: Mehitabel the Abyssinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mehitabel the Abyssinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the slaking of Jonah&lt;/i&gt;
Good title for a horror movie. Rob Zombie for director.
kthnxbye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the slaking of Jonah</i><br />
Good title for a horror movie. Rob Zombie for director.<br />
kthnxbye</p>
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