Comments on: Kill Me

By: Paddy Mac

Paddy Mac — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:06:13 +0000

“And they wanyt to kick Ms. Clinton for her laugh? Are you fucking kidding me? Do they really think they want to go down that path with bush, giuliani and freddy of hollywood?”

Mikey, you live in an America where the media holds everyone to the same standards. I live in an America where a Rhodes Scholar, with many years of experience governing at the Federal level, was treated as fashionista airhead, whilst a drunken frat-house playboy became “a reformer with results.” I live in an America where your fellow soldier in Viet Nam was called a traitor, while the guy who refused combat duty became Mr. Manly Codpiece Fighter Jock, SIR!! I really, really, really want to live in your America, but I’m stuck in mine. Can you get me safe passage? Please?

By: Some Guy

Some Guy — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:38:40 +0000

Yeah, Jon tore Tweety a new one. And he’s really overly-nice to guests.

Sure, the current batch of Republican are authoritarian nutjobs who think that we should carpet nuke countries that don’t fall in lock step and arrest dissenters for having the gall to speak out, but the Democrats have expensive haircuts.
Would you like to know MORE?

By: Lame Man

Lame Man — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:49:05 +0000

Woopsie. Wrong thread.

By: Lame Man

Lame Man — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:41:53 +0000

Leaving aside the obvious rationale for using the word “lynching,” what exactly was “high-tech” about Anita Hill saying, “hey, this guy is a real asshole”?

By: Lesley

Lesley — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:36:45 +0000

Crooks and Liars has video of the Stewart-Mathews interview. Chris Mathews' laugh: pervy Jon Stewart's laugh: adorable

By: Dr Zen

Dr Zen — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:35:28 +0000

“But Chris, this is a recipe for sadness.”

It completely turned the guy into a blabbering mess. Brilliant.

By: Hillary Laughs « Beware The Man

Hillary Laughs « Beware The Man — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:03:46 +0000

[...] And Sadly, No! gets it right, AND funny! [...]

By: kuvasz

kuvasz — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:03:28 +0000

Oddly, i have used public shaming of right wingers for several years and it really pisses them off to have their opponents call them on it. for some reason starting a sentence with “you ought to be ashamed of yourself for…” sets them off like a defensive kid being caught in his aunt’s cookie jar.

maybe bill bennett was right.

By: Jillian

Jillian — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:33:18 +0000

From the Jon Stewart/Tweety piece:

Tweety: You’re afraid of something in my book.

Jon: There IS something in this book I fear. Like fascism.

………..

Oh, sweet clown gods, I love that man!

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:24:11 +0000

Oops. Wallace, I meant Chris Wallace.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:17:30 +0000

Hillary has been laughing at serious questions, and/or at odd times where there is no humor.

Oh come now. Chris Matthews asked her why she and her husband are so hyper-partisan. I’m sorry, but that’s funny.

By: Sadly, Cambridgeport

Sadly, Cambridgeport — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:03:56 +0000

Can’t WE laugh at her? I know I do.

Only until she becomes president. Then the black helicoptors come out and joke’s over bitches.

By: Chuckles the Clown

Chuckles the Clown — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:49:55 +0000

John Witherspoon: Hmmm. You seem to have spent quite a bit of time analyzing HRC’s laugh. Quite a bit of time indeed. No life, huh?

And I’m sure Jon Stewart’s life will now have meaning, now that you have opined that he is “actually pretty funny.” Guess what, pal — most of the world has known that for about, what, six, seven years now?

I almost believe that you are in fact a robot. Therefore, I laugh at you, sir! Ha ha!

By: John Witherspoon

John Witherspoon — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:39:01 +0000

The Matthews interview was funny, ut i dont see the defensive laugh angle. Matthews was laughing when I and everyone else in the audience was also laughing, probably because JS is actually pretty funny. Hillary has been laughing at serious questions, and/or at odd times where there is no humor. If you listen to her laugh it sounds exactly the same every time, there is no deviance or breaks for breath, out of sync with previous laughter. I almost believe tha she is in fact a robot. Can’t WE laugh at her? I know I do.

By: Dancing in outer space

Dancing in outer space — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:45:52 +0000

Bhutto? Meir? Thatcher?

Well…

By: g

Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:11:24 +0000

The Strom story. Oh, my. Gavin, you see what bad photoshoppery will lead to?

By: Ron

Ron — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:39:53 +0000

So her laugh is a bit canned. So what?

MzNicky, I thought it was a great tactic...at first.

"Perhaps then we’ll finally be down to the gist of it, which is, of course, that she’s teh WOMAN!!! OMG NO!!!11!!!!! Are we READY for THAT?!!!!11! No country in the whole history of the whole WORLD has ever had a WOMAN for a leader!!1!!!11!!!1!1!!!1!"

Isn't it amazing how many people toss this argument out for not having Hil? Angela Merkel, anyone? Bhutto? Meir? Thatcher? I've even had to remind my own damn mother that women have run countries. The brainwashing runs deep.

By: Non Nato

Non Nato — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:33:02 +0000

The whole “Bush-is-a-dumb-motherfucker-who-can’t-speak-right” is just the other side of this coin, anything to keep the focus of the public away from actual policies, plus it makes it seem as though the media is being critical towards a deeply unpopular president. In Saddam’s Iraq one of his sons ran the fake opposition.

By: Robert M.

Robert M. — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:32:30 +0000

I just watched the Matthews clip. My only disappointment is that the interview wasn’t longer; it would have been interesting to see if Jon could puncture Matthews’ arrogant cluelessness.

The encounter between Jon and Carlson Tucker on whichever ridiculous he-said/she-said cable show did cross my mind, when I was writing my earlier comment. The critical difference between the Daily Show and, say, Fox and Friends is that the mainstream news is attempting to make Hillary Clinton into a figure of levity for the electorate, whereas on TDS everyone is a figure of levity.

I get the difference, I really do, and I’m not mad at the Daily Show. But it got me thinking: at what point might the Daily Show’s license end? They don’t do “serious” journalism, but they’re now a primary source of news for my demographic (18-24), which means that they are now inextricably a part of the same media narrative they’re rebelling against.

In that light, I think it’s important to give it the same critical eye we use for the rest of the news. Rather than just accepting that making fun of Hillary is okay for Jon Stewart but not for Sean Hannity, I’d like to know why it’s okay–and because I generally like and respect the community here, I was wondering what other people thought about it.

By: Jean Arf

Jean Arf — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:31:56 +0000

“Bush is a bumbling illiterate idiot with a fake drawl and an inability to speak his native tongue. He’s literally unbearable to listen to.

And they want to kick Ms. Clinton for her laugh?”

Yes. It’s called being FAIR and BALANCED. If they don’t do it, Rush will call them mean things.