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	<title>Comments on: Morono-Fascism Awareness Week</title>
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		<title>By: piotr</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-293562</link>
		<dc:creator>piotr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beg to differ with &quot;Sock Elves, for fuck’s sake! Who the fuck ever heard of fucking namby pamby sock fairies? I SPIT! All your socks are belong to us FOREVER, you fucking unbelievers. Fairies don’t have the drive, the instinct, the fucking sheer, unsleeping dedication to separating you stupid humans from your fucking socks!!!1!!&quot;

So you think that if a sock fairy cannot separate you from your socks, nothing to worry about?  Ha, naive and foolish mortal!  Did you ever notice h_o_l_e_s in your socks? 

Just a thought: could we harness the energy of stupidity to alleviate global warming?  Perhaps the conversion to a usable form of energy could go like that: isn&#039;t using fossils blasphemous?  Aren&#039;t fossil fuels just a temptation to get used to them and thus subliminally accept the message that the World existed long enough for them to fossilize?  And, by the way, what did Jesus drive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ with &#8220;Sock Elves, for fuck’s sake! Who the fuck ever heard of fucking namby pamby sock fairies? I SPIT! All your socks are belong to us FOREVER, you fucking unbelievers. Fairies don’t have the drive, the instinct, the fucking sheer, unsleeping dedication to separating you stupid humans from your fucking socks!!!1!!&#8221;</p>
<p>So you think that if a sock fairy cannot separate you from your socks, nothing to worry about?  Ha, naive and foolish mortal!  Did you ever notice h_o_l_e_s in your socks? </p>
<p>Just a thought: could we harness the energy of stupidity to alleviate global warming?  Perhaps the conversion to a usable form of energy could go like that: isn&#8217;t using fossils blasphemous?  Aren&#8217;t fossil fuels just a temptation to get used to them and thus subliminally accept the message that the World existed long enough for them to fossilize?  And, by the way, what did Jesus drive?</p>
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		<title>By: Principal Blackman</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291837</link>
		<dc:creator>Principal Blackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;atheism is a religion, but only in the way that not jogging is a hobby.
&lt;/i&gt;

Also, if atheism is a religion, then I want all the breaks and perks churches get--everything from tax-exempt status all the way down to having reserved street parking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>atheism is a religion, but only in the way that not jogging is a hobby.<br />
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<p>Also, if atheism is a religion, then I want all the breaks and perks churches get&#8211;everything from tax-exempt status all the way down to having reserved street parking.</p>
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		<title>By: MCH</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291818</link>
		<dc:creator>MCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Atheism as &quot;faith&quot;:

As someone else once put it, atheism is a religion, but only in the way that not jogging is a hobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Atheism as &#8220;faith&#8221;:</p>
<p>As someone else once put it, atheism is a religion, but only in the way that not jogging is a hobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Singularity</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291779</link>
		<dc:creator>Singularity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to pick nits, but I think that he meant &quot;et al&quot; rather than &quot;e.g&quot;.

And I resent your mockery of my Sock Elf religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to pick nits, but I think that he meant &#8220;et al&#8221; rather than &#8220;e.g&#8221;.</p>
<p>And I resent your mockery of my Sock Elf religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...in fact, once a person starts to believe, he can look back and see how all through his life while he wasn’t believing, God was yet doing all manner of things for the unbeliever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In fact, once a person starts to observe, he can look up and see how all through the night while he wasn&#039;t observing, the Man in the Moon was yet looking down in a kindly fashion on the man with no telescope.

Also, if humans evolved from apes, why is there still Mark Noonan?  Gotcha, evilutionists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;in fact, once a person starts to believe, he can look back and see how all through his life while he wasn’t believing, God was yet doing all manner of things for the unbeliever.</p></blockquote>
<p>In fact, once a person starts to observe, he can look up and see how all through the night while he wasn&#8217;t observing, the Man in the Moon was yet looking down in a kindly fashion on the man with no telescope.</p>
<p>Also, if humans evolved from apes, why is there still Mark Noonan?  Gotcha, evilutionists!</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291504</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owlbear--in my far too close-up experience with &quot;Christian&quot; fundies in my late teens, I heard many times the argument that dinosaur bones were placed here by satan to test &quot;our Faith&quot;. A friend of mine who is a native Kansan (and you must remember, any teaching of evolution is still trying to be banned in public schools here) has also been hit up by this rather paranoid argument, and it never fails to make us laugh. Unless we actually run into someone still endorsing the idea. Not as funny then. But yep, Satan apparently has been setting up dig sites for at least 6,000 years now. Darn those gullible Paleontologists and Physical Anthropoligists! Oh, you little Devil, you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owlbear&#8211;in my far too close-up experience with &#8220;Christian&#8221; fundies in my late teens, I heard many times the argument that dinosaur bones were placed here by satan to test &#8220;our Faith&#8221;. A friend of mine who is a native Kansan (and you must remember, any teaching of evolution is still trying to be banned in public schools here) has also been hit up by this rather paranoid argument, and it never fails to make us laugh. Unless we actually run into someone still endorsing the idea. Not as funny then. But yep, Satan apparently has been setting up dig sites for at least 6,000 years now. Darn those gullible Paleontologists and Physical Anthropoligists! Oh, you little Devil, you!</p>
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		<title>By: Percyprune</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291388</link>
		<dc:creator>Percyprune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a new thing, Krassen. We&#039;ve been here before.

&quot;Okay, we&#039;ll admit the Earth goes around the Sun, but we go no further than that!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a new thing, Krassen. We&#8217;ve been here before.</p>
<p>&#8220;Okay, we&#8217;ll admit the Earth goes around the Sun, but we go no further than that!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Krassen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291377</link>
		<dc:creator>Krassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noonan sums up nicely the current position of the religuous establishment:

OK, we can give up on the &quot;six days&quot;, but no way we are giving you the six billions years thing. 

I think the compromise he is talking about is something of this sort &quot;you gotta give us some whiff of divinity in the primordial soup, and we are in no way taking this Humans-from-apes stuff, but we can probably accept a few billion years for plants, animals and other shit, you know as a good gesture... I wish we could give you more, but that&#039;s the best we can do at this point...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noonan sums up nicely the current position of the religuous establishment:</p>
<p>OK, we can give up on the &#8220;six days&#8221;, but no way we are giving you the six billions years thing. </p>
<p>I think the compromise he is talking about is something of this sort &#8220;you gotta give us some whiff of divinity in the primordial soup, and we are in no way taking this Humans-from-apes stuff, but we can probably accept a few billion years for plants, animals and other shit, you know as a good gesture&#8230; I wish we could give you more, but that&#8217;s the best we can do at this point&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Percyprune</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291368</link>
		<dc:creator>Percyprune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A perceived problem with science is that it does not lead to certainty, rather to new questions and challenges. This discomfits many people, who are then inclined to seek the comfort of divines and priests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A perceived problem with science is that it does not lead to certainty, rather to new questions and challenges. This discomfits many people, who are then inclined to seek the comfort of divines and priests.</p>
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		<title>By: RubDMC</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291357</link>
		<dc:creator>RubDMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;To me, the more important thing is that the world is, indeed, here and that I am on it...&lt;/i&gt;

Great. You proved your point. I&#039;m convinced. Now, get the fuck &lt;i&gt;off&lt;/i&gt; it. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;To me, the more important thing is that the world is, indeed, here and that I am on it&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Great. You proved your point. I&#8217;m convinced. Now, get the fuck <i>off</i> it. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: J. A. Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291308</link>
		<dc:creator>J. A. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I highlhy recommend it, especially, to anyone in with and interest in the debate between materialist/determinst Darwinism and Intelligent Design.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps the Nooner has been posting while sacued so much, he&#039;s devolved into &quot;All Your Base&quot; Engrish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I highlhy recommend it, especially, to anyone in with and interest in the debate between materialist/determinst Darwinism and Intelligent Design.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps the Nooner has been posting while sacued so much, he&#8217;s devolved into &#8220;All Your Base&#8221; Engrish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Creature Lee's Status</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291291</link>
		<dc:creator>Creature Lee's Status</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respect mah authoritah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect mah authoritah!</p>
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		<title>By: Gentlewoman, Priestess to the Sock Elves</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291276</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentlewoman, Priestess to the Sock Elves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also- I really freaked when I found the sock fairy nest in my attic rafters and realized that although there is no god, there really is a sock fairy.&lt;/i&gt;

Sock &lt;b&gt;Elves&lt;/b&gt;, for fuck&#039;s sake! Who the fuck ever heard of fucking namby pamby sock fairies? I SPIT! All your socks are belong to us FOREVER, you fucking unbelievers. Fairies don&#039;t have the drive, the instinct, the fucking sheer, unsleeping dedication to &lt;i&gt;separating you stupid humans from your fucking socks!!!1!!&lt;/i&gt; All fairies ever do is moon around and talk about the shit they &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; do if they wanted to--but they never fucking do it! Meanwhile, we&#039;re out there, every wash day, stealing the motherfucking socks, OK? So fuck the fairies, they&#039;re useless. Worse than useless, they&#039;re annoying, twinkly little fucks. Who don&#039;t do shit.

&lt;i&gt;To be fair, it would be real tricky to prove that flowers exist.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t be absurd. I ate one in my dinner salad tonight. An orange nasturtium. Quite nice. So there&#039;s at least one that existed, but it doesn&#039;t now, because I eated it. Find your own fucking flower to eat. And stay the fuck away from them socks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also- I really freaked when I found the sock fairy nest in my attic rafters and realized that although there is no god, there really is a sock fairy.</i></p>
<p>Sock <b>Elves</b>, for fuck&#8217;s sake! Who the fuck ever heard of fucking namby pamby sock fairies? I SPIT! All your socks are belong to us FOREVER, you fucking unbelievers. Fairies don&#8217;t have the drive, the instinct, the fucking sheer, unsleeping dedication to <i>separating you stupid humans from your fucking socks!!!1!!</i> All fairies ever do is moon around and talk about the shit they <i>could</i> do if they wanted to&#8211;but they never fucking do it! Meanwhile, we&#8217;re out there, every wash day, stealing the motherfucking socks, OK? So fuck the fairies, they&#8217;re useless. Worse than useless, they&#8217;re annoying, twinkly little fucks. Who don&#8217;t do shit.</p>
<p><i>To be fair, it would be real tricky to prove that flowers exist.</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be absurd. I ate one in my dinner salad tonight. An orange nasturtium. Quite nice. So there&#8217;s at least one that existed, but it doesn&#8217;t now, because I eated it. Find your own fucking flower to eat. And stay the fuck away from them socks!</p>
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		<title>By: KeithOk</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291256</link>
		<dc:creator>KeithOk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What’s the worst thing that can happen to people who don’t learn the lessons of history, huh?&quot;

So he&#039;s doomed to repeat evolution?

Sorry for the editing error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What’s the worst thing that can happen to people who don’t learn the lessons of history, huh?&#8221;</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s doomed to repeat evolution?</p>
<p>Sorry for the editing error.</p>
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		<title>By: KeithOk</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291255</link>
		<dc:creator>KeithOk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What’s the worst thing that can happen to people who don’t learn the lessons of history, huh?&quot;

So he&#039;s destined doomed to repeat evolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What’s the worst thing that can happen to people who don’t learn the lessons of history, huh?&#8221;</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s destined doomed to repeat evolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Someone</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noonan says: &lt;i&gt;&quot;there is no way to falsify the concept that the universe wasn’t created by God.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

In fact, he has it exactly backwards.  There is no way to falsify the concept that the universe WAS created by God, i.e., there is no way to devise an experiment that could prove that concept wrong.  This is because no matter what results you come up with, the God-believer can always say &quot;That&#039;s how God designed it/did it/wanted it.&quot;

On the other hand, you could devise an experiment to disprove the concept that the universe was NOT created by God.  Virtually any scientific experiment could produce results that could only be caused by God, if God exists.  For instance, the telescopic results of looking deeper and deeper into the universe (and hence back in time closer and closer to the Big Bang) could lead to an observation of a pulsar blasting out radiation in Morse code that translates to the statement &quot;I am the Lord thy God, and thou shalt have no other gods before me.&quot;

If the observation were controlled in such a way that hoax and fraud were eliminated as possibilities, and capable of being replicated (with the same results), then atheists would have little choice but to conclude that their hypothesis -- there is no God -- is wrong.  Hence, the concept that there is no God is tremendously falsifiable; all it would take is some direct and indisputable evidence of God&#039;s existence.

Noonan is correct about one thing, though: scientists and atheists (two groups that may overlap but are not 1-to-1 congruent) all have &quot;faith&quot; that observation and reason will produce logical and correct explanations and thus are the most appropriate ways of parsing the universe; whereas revelation and superstition produce irrational and unpredictable -- and often provably wrong -- explanations.  Atheism is not, as some desperate creationists and fundamentalists like to claim, a religion; but it does rely on the belief that humans are able to rationally analyze the world around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noonan says: <i>&#8220;there is no way to falsify the concept that the universe wasn’t created by God.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>In fact, he has it exactly backwards.  There is no way to falsify the concept that the universe WAS created by God, i.e., there is no way to devise an experiment that could prove that concept wrong.  This is because no matter what results you come up with, the God-believer can always say &#8220;That&#8217;s how God designed it/did it/wanted it.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other hand, you could devise an experiment to disprove the concept that the universe was NOT created by God.  Virtually any scientific experiment could produce results that could only be caused by God, if God exists.  For instance, the telescopic results of looking deeper and deeper into the universe (and hence back in time closer and closer to the Big Bang) could lead to an observation of a pulsar blasting out radiation in Morse code that translates to the statement &#8220;I am the Lord thy God, and thou shalt have no other gods before me.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the observation were controlled in such a way that hoax and fraud were eliminated as possibilities, and capable of being replicated (with the same results), then atheists would have little choice but to conclude that their hypothesis &#8212; there is no God &#8212; is wrong.  Hence, the concept that there is no God is tremendously falsifiable; all it would take is some direct and indisputable evidence of God&#8217;s existence.</p>
<p>Noonan is correct about one thing, though: scientists and atheists (two groups that may overlap but are not 1-to-1 congruent) all have &#8220;faith&#8221; that observation and reason will produce logical and correct explanations and thus are the most appropriate ways of parsing the universe; whereas revelation and superstition produce irrational and unpredictable &#8212; and often provably wrong &#8212; explanations.  Atheism is not, as some desperate creationists and fundamentalists like to claim, a religion; but it does rely on the belief that humans are able to rationally analyze the world around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious P.A.T.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291164</link>
		<dc:creator>Notorious P.A.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah!  Who cares whether we recognize Darwinism as true or not?  What possible difference could it make?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism#Repercussions_of_Lysenkoism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah!  Who cares whether we recognize Darwinism as true or not?  What possible difference could it make?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism#Repercussions_of_Lysenkoism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism#Repercussions_of_Lysenkoism</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291129</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God can easily disprove that he doesn&#039;t exist. But he can&#039;t. Because he doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God can easily disprove that he doesn&#8217;t exist. But he can&#8217;t. Because he doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7302.html#comment-291079</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s that thing on wheels in the cartoon? Did someone finally develop a computer w/ a built-in printer? It&#039;s about time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s that thing on wheels in the cartoon? Did someone finally develop a computer w/ a built-in printer? It&#8217;s about time!</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creaturly indeed isn&#039;t a word.  He means &quot;creaturely,&quot; or characteristic of a created being, the Hell-bound blasphemer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creaturly indeed isn&#8217;t a word.  He means &#8220;creaturely,&#8221; or characteristic of a created being, the Hell-bound blasphemer.</p>
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