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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;That&#8217;s Different; They&#8217;re White Guys,&#8221; Pt. Eleventy-Squillion [Updated]</title>
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		<title>By: QuietBear</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-294912</link>
		<dc:creator>QuietBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks this is all a wee too pat of a situation... No one in their right and thinking mind would ever be, &quot;pro war&quot;... It makes no sense...

Unless...

You work for or are somehow involved in, the military/industrial/info complex or, the government...

I believe the term is,
&quot;agent(s) provocateur&quot;...

And the police&#039;s response to this crime of assault and battery, of which there are several videos? Nada. Zip. Zilch. (And at least one of the attackers has blogged about committing the attack!)
In a place where peace activists are routinely arrested for standing in one place for too long? Gimme a freakin break...
Granted, they did stop the assault, but the attackers not only did not get arrested, they were honored at the white house by our benevolent dictator guy!

This all stinks to high heaven, people... It smells of a new tactic by the psyops folk, to begin the programming of the already mind numbed masses of, &quot;it&#039;s ok to attack peace activists!&quot;...
And it doesn&#039;t look as if it will be too difficult to implement, what with the total non-defense of Carlos&#039; attack... Watch the videos that are all over youtube... Don&#039;t watch the assault though, watch the people around the assault... Watch how many of them just raise their hands or shake their heads as they turn away from the assault! It&#039;s not just sad, it is sickening to watch...
It will be very interesting to see how many more peace activists will be attacked in the coming months... And what, if anything is done to the attackers...

And whether or not there are criminal charges placed against the attackers, there is always the path of the civil court system...
Anymore attacks on anyone, much less peace activists, should be handled with zero tolerance...

This is all getting curiouser and curiouser...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks this is all a wee too pat of a situation&#8230; No one in their right and thinking mind would ever be, &#8220;pro war&#8221;&#8230; It makes no sense&#8230;</p>
<p>Unless&#8230;</p>
<p>You work for or are somehow involved in, the military/industrial/info complex or, the government&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe the term is,<br />
&#8220;agent(s) provocateur&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>And the police&#8217;s response to this crime of assault and battery, of which there are several videos? Nada. Zip. Zilch. (And at least one of the attackers has blogged about committing the attack!)<br />
In a place where peace activists are routinely arrested for standing in one place for too long? Gimme a freakin break&#8230;<br />
Granted, they did stop the assault, but the attackers not only did not get arrested, they were honored at the white house by our benevolent dictator guy!</p>
<p>This all stinks to high heaven, people&#8230; It smells of a new tactic by the psyops folk, to begin the programming of the already mind numbed masses of, &#8220;it&#8217;s ok to attack peace activists!&#8221;&#8230;<br />
And it doesn&#8217;t look as if it will be too difficult to implement, what with the total non-defense of Carlos&#8217; attack&#8230; Watch the videos that are all over youtube&#8230; Don&#8217;t watch the assault though, watch the people around the assault&#8230; Watch how many of them just raise their hands or shake their heads as they turn away from the assault! It&#8217;s not just sad, it is sickening to watch&#8230;<br />
It will be very interesting to see how many more peace activists will be attacked in the coming months&#8230; And what, if anything is done to the attackers&#8230;</p>
<p>And whether or not there are criminal charges placed against the attackers, there is always the path of the civil court system&#8230;<br />
Anymore attacks on anyone, much less peace activists, should be handled with zero tolerance&#8230;</p>
<p>This is all getting curiouser and curiouser&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 5</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-286870</link>
		<dc:creator>5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only is there almost no coverage by the corporate media of black violent crimes against white people, in high profile cases they proffer the black criminals as &#039;real victims&#039;. 

To illustrate the bias of the corporate media, imagine if the facts were reversed - if a gang of six white kids led by someone with four previous convictions for violent-crime had attacked a lone black student, kicking and stomping him into unconsciousness. As far as the corporate media are concerned, they would be interviewing the black victim on every TV talk show across the land, discussing his fear, his pain, his suffering. They would be interviewing his crying relatives and friends. They would not be voicing any fear that the white attackers would be treated too harshly, or even that they would be treated at all.

No one knows who put up those nooses, but the people who lost out most from it were &#039;white racists&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only is there almost no coverage by the corporate media of black violent crimes against white people, in high profile cases they proffer the black criminals as &#8216;real victims&#8217;. </p>
<p>To illustrate the bias of the corporate media, imagine if the facts were reversed &#8211; if a gang of six white kids led by someone with four previous convictions for violent-crime had attacked a lone black student, kicking and stomping him into unconsciousness. As far as the corporate media are concerned, they would be interviewing the black victim on every TV talk show across the land, discussing his fear, his pain, his suffering. They would be interviewing his crying relatives and friends. They would not be voicing any fear that the white attackers would be treated too harshly, or even that they would be treated at all.</p>
<p>No one knows who put up those nooses, but the people who lost out most from it were &#8216;white racists&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Beyond Snark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Beyond Snark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that MoveOn.org thing: What sort of partisan thugs would condone a group that only days earlier had assaulted a Gold Star father um, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-283182</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, mikey, I&#039;m at least a smart-ass. And I&#039;ve lived in the belly of the beast, Los Angeles, CA, the city that pretty much invented &quot;pro-active,&quot; paramilitary policing, since 1973, in the &quot;police terror&quot; (as F. Zappa called it on the liner notes of the first Mothers album) centers of Hollywood, Silver Lake, &amp; West Hollywood (which is under the jurisdiction of the L. A. County Sheriff&#039;s Dep&#039;t., and just because they sport khaki rather than the Gestapo dark blue of the LAPD, they&#039;re no less strict). I&#039;ve been a hippie, or long-haired, anyway, or a punk, or at least dressed pretty funny (natural targets for the heat) for a lot of those 34 yrs. And while I don&#039;t get out like I used to, when I did I was drinking &amp; smoking in public, &lt;i&gt;etc.&lt;/i&gt;, as well as just looking like a weirdo. A year ago August, I threatened someone w/ a gun in the privacy of my own apartment, &amp; when the Sheriffs came to investigate I ran downstairs, still pissed &amp; raging, in T-shirt &amp; jeans, barefoot, &amp; found several of those little red beads of light on my shirt, as well as hearing &quot;Tase him.&quot; So (pissed &amp; raging or not) I had the good sense to go face down on the sidewalk, &amp; ended up in the loony bin for a couple of weeks. The sheriffs probably could have put me in the criminal loony bin, but they didn&#039;t. Not my only street level LE experience, just the most recent. And I&#039;m not being forgiving of the D. C. police just because the LASD gave me the mental health option.

Neither of us really know what went on there, but the excerpts I posted (Whatta pimp!) from a right-wing asswipe, &amp; from the wife of guy whose son, &amp; then his son&#039;s picture, were taken from him can be compared, &amp; it doesn&#039;t sound like the actual theft of the picture was violent. If the NR asshole is to be believed, Arredondo didn&#039;t even know Boo-boo had taken it until it was pointed out to him, &amp; while I do absolutely disbelieve Hemingway&#039;s &quot;liberal rage&quot; narrative of Arredondo: &quot;In a rage, Arredondo took off and tackled Peterson from behind at a full run,&quot; even Mrs. A. says Carlos &quot;leaped on the man to retrieve the picture.&quot; Since people don&#039;t usually &quot;leap&quot; on someone from the front, I think it&#039;s likely Mr. Arredondo did get him from behind (and since Psycho Fred was walking away, how else was he going to do it?) 

So that&#039;s not going to look good when pressing charges. Of course, the big brave Eagles were trying to pick a fight: &quot;A bystander named Ramesh witnessed the whole encounter and also retrieved the picture of Alex for Carlos. He was quite distressed at how he watched the men follow Carlos as he pulled the memorial, purposefully yelling epiphets and eventually taking Alex&#039;s photograph.&quot; And Arredondo gave them an excuse, flimsy as it is. My guess is that the cops were more interested in defusing the situation, especially at the end of a long, tiring day of people marching, emotions running high, angry Eagles spoiling for a fight, then honestly arbitrating the situation. And since the cops, not having witnessed the theft of the photo, couldn&#039;t arrest anyone for it, charges would have to be pressed. It&#039;s not like they took Arredondo away in cuffs, even though he was the victim here. Maybe some of those dirty commie pinkos who, according to the Eagles, are exploiting poor Carlos &amp; financing his every move (I see the Hand of Soros in this!!) will help him sue some of those pricks. He&#039;ll probably get more satisfaction from that than a day in criminal or misdemeanor court. Like I said, it&#039;s the kind of thing most DAs would dismiss anyway. The monetary value (unfortunately the criteria) of Alex&#039;s picture would make it petty theft at best, restitution &amp; a few hours of freeway pick-up would probably be the sentence, upon conviction. A nice lawsuit to get some serious money &amp; time wasted in court out of that Sg&#039;t. Slaughter looking fuck, &amp; maybe expose a little of the Eagles patriotism would be much more satisfying. I&#039;ve seen more than one demo where someone&#039;s poster is grabbed &amp; ripped up (usually by those level-headed Men of the Right, no &quot;rage&quot; there, of course) &amp; I doubt if any one&#039;s ever been arrested, let alone prosecuted for it.

I&#039;m not denying that the D.C. Police&#039;s sympathies are more w/ the Seagulls than those on our side, I just don&#039;t think the cops wanted to cart any one on either side off to jail in a confrontational situation like that, and probably convinced all parties that it just wasn&#039;t worth it to press charges, certainly not then &amp; there. 

Aw-reet, another Saturday evening spent polishing my writing skills. Law School here I come!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, mikey, I&#8217;m at least a smart-ass. And I&#8217;ve lived in the belly of the beast, Los Angeles, CA, the city that pretty much invented &#8220;pro-active,&#8221; paramilitary policing, since 1973, in the &#8220;police terror&#8221; (as F. Zappa called it on the liner notes of the first Mothers album) centers of Hollywood, Silver Lake, &amp; West Hollywood (which is under the jurisdiction of the L. A. County Sheriff&#8217;s Dep&#8217;t., and just because they sport khaki rather than the Gestapo dark blue of the LAPD, they&#8217;re no less strict). I&#8217;ve been a hippie, or long-haired, anyway, or a punk, or at least dressed pretty funny (natural targets for the heat) for a lot of those 34 yrs. And while I don&#8217;t get out like I used to, when I did I was drinking &amp; smoking in public, <i>etc.</i>, as well as just looking like a weirdo. A year ago August, I threatened someone w/ a gun in the privacy of my own apartment, &amp; when the Sheriffs came to investigate I ran downstairs, still pissed &amp; raging, in T-shirt &amp; jeans, barefoot, &amp; found several of those little red beads of light on my shirt, as well as hearing &#8220;Tase him.&#8221; So (pissed &amp; raging or not) I had the good sense to go face down on the sidewalk, &amp; ended up in the loony bin for a couple of weeks. The sheriffs probably could have put me in the criminal loony bin, but they didn&#8217;t. Not my only street level LE experience, just the most recent. And I&#8217;m not being forgiving of the D. C. police just because the LASD gave me the mental health option.</p>
<p>Neither of us really know what went on there, but the excerpts I posted (Whatta pimp!) from a right-wing asswipe, &amp; from the wife of guy whose son, &amp; then his son&#8217;s picture, were taken from him can be compared, &amp; it doesn&#8217;t sound like the actual theft of the picture was violent. If the NR asshole is to be believed, Arredondo didn&#8217;t even know Boo-boo had taken it until it was pointed out to him, &amp; while I do absolutely disbelieve Hemingway&#8217;s &#8220;liberal rage&#8221; narrative of Arredondo: &#8220;In a rage, Arredondo took off and tackled Peterson from behind at a full run,&#8221; even Mrs. A. says Carlos &#8220;leaped on the man to retrieve the picture.&#8221; Since people don&#8217;t usually &#8220;leap&#8221; on someone from the front, I think it&#8217;s likely Mr. Arredondo did get him from behind (and since Psycho Fred was walking away, how else was he going to do it?) </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s not going to look good when pressing charges. Of course, the big brave Eagles were trying to pick a fight: &#8220;A bystander named Ramesh witnessed the whole encounter and also retrieved the picture of Alex for Carlos. He was quite distressed at how he watched the men follow Carlos as he pulled the memorial, purposefully yelling epiphets and eventually taking Alex&#8217;s photograph.&#8221; And Arredondo gave them an excuse, flimsy as it is. My guess is that the cops were more interested in defusing the situation, especially at the end of a long, tiring day of people marching, emotions running high, angry Eagles spoiling for a fight, then honestly arbitrating the situation. And since the cops, not having witnessed the theft of the photo, couldn&#8217;t arrest anyone for it, charges would have to be pressed. It&#8217;s not like they took Arredondo away in cuffs, even though he was the victim here. Maybe some of those dirty commie pinkos who, according to the Eagles, are exploiting poor Carlos &amp; financing his every move (I see the Hand of Soros in this!!) will help him sue some of those pricks. He&#8217;ll probably get more satisfaction from that than a day in criminal or misdemeanor court. Like I said, it&#8217;s the kind of thing most DAs would dismiss anyway. The monetary value (unfortunately the criteria) of Alex&#8217;s picture would make it petty theft at best, restitution &amp; a few hours of freeway pick-up would probably be the sentence, upon conviction. A nice lawsuit to get some serious money &amp; time wasted in court out of that Sg&#8217;t. Slaughter looking fuck, &amp; maybe expose a little of the Eagles patriotism would be much more satisfying. I&#8217;ve seen more than one demo where someone&#8217;s poster is grabbed &amp; ripped up (usually by those level-headed Men of the Right, no &#8220;rage&#8221; there, of course) &amp; I doubt if any one&#8217;s ever been arrested, let alone prosecuted for it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not denying that the D.C. Police&#8217;s sympathies are more w/ the Seagulls than those on our side, I just don&#8217;t think the cops wanted to cart any one on either side off to jail in a confrontational situation like that, and probably convinced all parties that it just wasn&#8217;t worth it to press charges, certainly not then &amp; there. </p>
<p>Aw-reet, another Saturday evening spent polishing my writing skills. Law School here I come!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-283179</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a fairly scientific fighting style designed to inflict an amount of pain most people are unfamiliar with in quick order. It&#039;s not only very useful in submission wrestling, but also excellent for self-defense. While the more advanced techniques can do quite a bit of permanent damage, a basic working knowledge of Brazilian will not only enable most people to take on a person of any size, armed or no and formally trained (in most other disciplines) or no, but also to force them to the ground and keep them rolling around there in agony for a little while without any serious trouble.
The idea is to force someone to (wrestling) submission without their input in the matter, and it&#039;s pretty much custom-tailored to that. That&#039;s part of why the UFC was, for the first few years, largely the Brazilians kicking everyone else&#039;s ass.

In theory, if I knew it better, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d be so happy about doing nothing while a bunch of fascist fatheads ganged up and flailed at a frail old burn victim. In fact, if I had the formal training necessary - something that would only take a couple of devoted months, such as one might have in a vacation or a few hours a weekend for a year or two - I would probably feel compelled to make them knock it off. While these sorts of people do talk a big game when it comes to weapons, most of them are too enamored of their penis-substituting handguns to bother with a knife, and have no idea to actually use a gun to &lt;i&gt;defend&lt;/i&gt; themselves - not that a skilled BJJ ground-fighter is liable to get punched solidly before an untrained opponent goes down, let alone shot.

Of course, that&#039;s just me thinking hypothetically. I&#039;m not suggesting anything.

Heaven forbid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a fairly scientific fighting style designed to inflict an amount of pain most people are unfamiliar with in quick order. It&#8217;s not only very useful in submission wrestling, but also excellent for self-defense. While the more advanced techniques can do quite a bit of permanent damage, a basic working knowledge of Brazilian will not only enable most people to take on a person of any size, armed or no and formally trained (in most other disciplines) or no, but also to force them to the ground and keep them rolling around there in agony for a little while without any serious trouble.<br />
The idea is to force someone to (wrestling) submission without their input in the matter, and it&#8217;s pretty much custom-tailored to that. That&#8217;s part of why the UFC was, for the first few years, largely the Brazilians kicking everyone else&#8217;s ass.</p>
<p>In theory, if I knew it better, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d be so happy about doing nothing while a bunch of fascist fatheads ganged up and flailed at a frail old burn victim. In fact, if I had the formal training necessary &#8211; something that would only take a couple of devoted months, such as one might have in a vacation or a few hours a weekend for a year or two &#8211; I would probably feel compelled to make them knock it off. While these sorts of people do talk a big game when it comes to weapons, most of them are too enamored of their penis-substituting handguns to bother with a knife, and have no idea to actually use a gun to <i>defend</i> themselves &#8211; not that a skilled BJJ ground-fighter is liable to get punched solidly before an untrained opponent goes down, let alone shot.</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s just me thinking hypothetically. I&#8217;m not suggesting anything.</p>
<p>Heaven forbid.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-283133</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Seems like no one really wanted to press charges&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm.  I guess.  Maybe I come out of a weird, gray world where people don&#039;t actually get to &quot;press charges&quot;, but in all my experience with law enforcement, nobody ever actually cared who wanted or didn&#039;t want to &quot;press charges&quot;.

The cops were there.  A bunch of people commited violent theft against a guy who had every right to be there, doing what he was doing.  Somebody explain to me why LE can arrest people who ask uncomfortable questions at a political event, or wear contraversial tee shirts, but this is somehow ambiguous?  

Bouffant, you&#039;re a smart guy.  I don&#039;t know where you live.  But if you think that street level law enforcement is going to be even handed, or even honest, you need to get out on the street and look at it again.  Because it&#039;s pretty clear who committed the crime.  Making it muddy is just Rovian.  

Carlos is not a poster child, and we&#039;d really wish to have a much clearer, more perfect victim.  But it&#039;s never going to be that way.  But rights are vanishing before our very eyes, and if you think that street level uniformed law enforcement is going to honestly arbitrate these disagreements, you&#039;re going to be disappointed over and over again...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Seems like no one really wanted to press charges</i></p>
<p>Hmm.  I guess.  Maybe I come out of a weird, gray world where people don&#8217;t actually get to &#8220;press charges&#8221;, but in all my experience with law enforcement, nobody ever actually cared who wanted or didn&#8217;t want to &#8220;press charges&#8221;.</p>
<p>The cops were there.  A bunch of people commited violent theft against a guy who had every right to be there, doing what he was doing.  Somebody explain to me why LE can arrest people who ask uncomfortable questions at a political event, or wear contraversial tee shirts, but this is somehow ambiguous?  </p>
<p>Bouffant, you&#8217;re a smart guy.  I don&#8217;t know where you live.  But if you think that street level law enforcement is going to be even handed, or even honest, you need to get out on the street and look at it again.  Because it&#8217;s pretty clear who committed the crime.  Making it muddy is just Rovian.  </p>
<p>Carlos is not a poster child, and we&#8217;d really wish to have a much clearer, more perfect victim.  But it&#8217;s never going to be that way.  But rights are vanishing before our very eyes, and if you think that street level uniformed law enforcement is going to honestly arbitrate these disagreements, you&#8217;re going to be disappointed over and over again&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-283131</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;m out of that silly Fire a Very Nice Woman Who Knows Exactly What She&#039;s Talking About Blog as of several days ago. Now I know how all the RW pants-pissers feel when they&#039;re confronted by, well, anyone. 
Any further communication may be addressed to me at: undermybed@thesecretbunker.co.nz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;m out of that silly Fire a Very Nice Woman Who Knows Exactly What She&#8217;s Talking About Blog as of several days ago. Now I know how all the RW pants-pissers feel when they&#8217;re confronted by, well, anyone.<br />
Any further communication may be addressed to me at: <a href="mailto:undermybed@thesecretbunker.co.nz">undermybed@thesecretbunker.co.nz</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-283127</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikey: I think the police did pretty well all around (w/ the whole event, not just this part) &amp; at least were there fairly quickly to stop the beating, according to Mrs. Arredondo, though his actual property rights may not have been too well protected. Seems like no one really wanted to press charges, GofEs or Carlos. Probably more hassle than it would be worth, I&#039;d bet the DA would have dismissed all charges anyway.
And if you look at the photos, at least one of the Smegmas (the one w/ the flag on a stick) seems to be restraining the asshole who looks like Sg&#039;t. Slaughter. (Didn&#039;t someone upthread refer to baldo as the Chief Eagle?)

I&#039;m not sure we can believe anything Fred Boo-boo said, he seems to be in a fantasy world of his very own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikey: I think the police did pretty well all around (w/ the whole event, not just this part) &amp; at least were there fairly quickly to stop the beating, according to Mrs. Arredondo, though his actual property rights may not have been too well protected. Seems like no one really wanted to press charges, GofEs or Carlos. Probably more hassle than it would be worth, I&#8217;d bet the DA would have dismissed all charges anyway.<br />
And if you look at the photos, at least one of the Smegmas (the one w/ the flag on a stick) seems to be restraining the asshole who looks like Sg&#8217;t. Slaughter. (Didn&#8217;t someone upthread refer to baldo as the Chief Eagle?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure we can believe anything Fred Boo-boo said, he seems to be in a fantasy world of his very own.</p>
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		<title>By: Clem</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-283087</link>
		<dc:creator>Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I think we&#039;d all better think twice before picking on McArdle again.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/the_blogger_army_is_on_the_mar.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;She&#039;s packing heat.&lt;/a&gt;

Actually, what happened was, six black kids at the pharmacy were laughing at her for pitching a fit about being carded, so she went back to her car and retrieved her shotgun.  Upon her return to the pharmacy, the black kids fell out laughing and McArdle called Yglesias for backup.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/the_punisher.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yglesias was packing heat.&lt;/a&gt;

Details of what happened next are still trickling out, but I&#039;m sure Wikipedia&#039;s account will be authoritative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I think we&#8217;d all better think twice before picking on McArdle again.</p>
<p><a href="http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/the_blogger_army_is_on_the_mar.php" rel="nofollow">She&#8217;s packing heat.</a></p>
<p>Actually, what happened was, six black kids at the pharmacy were laughing at her for pitching a fit about being carded, so she went back to her car and retrieved her shotgun.  Upon her return to the pharmacy, the black kids fell out laughing and McArdle called Yglesias for backup.</p>
<p><a href="http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/the_punisher.php" rel="nofollow">Yglesias was packing heat.</a></p>
<p>Details of what happened next are still trickling out, but I&#8217;m sure Wikipedia&#8217;s account will be authoritative.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282920</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um.  And according to Peterson&#039;s account, local law enforcement had no interest in protecting Carlos or his rights.  I&#039;d really hope that&#039;s not the way it actually went....

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um.  And according to Peterson&#8217;s account, local law enforcement had no interest in protecting Carlos or his rights.  I&#8217;d really hope that&#8217;s not the way it actually went&#8230;.</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Principal Blackman</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282918</link>
		<dc:creator>Principal Blackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Wow, Fred Peterson is seriously disturbed. He’s describing how he’s openly stealing someone else’s personal property … but in his mind he’s liberating a kidnap victim.&lt;/I&gt;

It truly was a bizarre, disturbing read. I felt like I was reading some psychologist&#039;s case files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wow, Fred Peterson is seriously disturbed. He’s describing how he’s openly stealing someone else’s personal property … but in his mind he’s liberating a kidnap victim.</i></p>
<p>It truly was a bizarre, disturbing read. I felt like I was reading some psychologist&#8217;s case files.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How &#039;bout one of those purple heart bandaids for poor Peterson?

http://www.threetwoone.org/uggabugga/2004/bandage-purple-heart.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How &#8217;bout one of those purple heart bandaids for poor Peterson?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.threetwoone.org/uggabugga/2004/bandage-purple-heart.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.threetwoone.org/uggabugga/2004/bandage-purple-heart.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282856</link>
		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additional Jena-related program activities:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In Roanoke, Va., an especially virulent purveyor of race hate, neo-Nazi Bill White, this afternoon posted the home addresses and phone numbers of five of the six black youths who make up the Jena 6 under this headline: “Addresses of Jena 6 Niggers: In Case Anyone Wants to Deliver Justice.” White previously posted the home addresses of Southern Poverty Law Center president Richard Cohen and SPLC cooperating attorney James Boren.

White, the leader of the American National Socialist Workers Party, suggests that readers “get in touch and let them know justice is coming.” Another White posting on the matter doesn’t hold anything at all back: “Lynch the Jena 6.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
From the SPLC&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/09/20/jena-rally-sparks-white-supremacist-rage/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hatewatch&lt;/a&gt; blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additional Jena-related program activities:</p>
<blockquote><p>In Roanoke, Va., an especially virulent purveyor of race hate, neo-Nazi Bill White, this afternoon posted the home addresses and phone numbers of five of the six black youths who make up the Jena 6 under this headline: “Addresses of Jena 6 Niggers: In Case Anyone Wants to Deliver Justice.” White previously posted the home addresses of Southern Poverty Law Center president Richard Cohen and SPLC cooperating attorney James Boren.</p>
<p>White, the leader of the American National Socialist Workers Party, suggests that readers “get in touch and let them know justice is coming.” Another White posting on the matter doesn’t hold anything at all back: “Lynch the Jena 6.”</p></blockquote>
<p>From the SPLC&#8217;s <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/09/20/jena-rally-sparks-white-supremacist-rage/" rel="nofollow">Hatewatch</a> blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282840</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tigrismus -- &quot;enervate&quot;, right -- right-wing idiots&#039; stupid linguistic mistakes are always so telling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tigrismus &#8212; &#8220;enervate&#8221;, right &#8212; right-wing idiots&#8217; stupid linguistic mistakes are always so telling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pissed Off!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282835</link>
		<dc:creator>Pissed Off!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred Peterson and his ilk are the real traitors. hey Fred, if you REALLY wanted to serve you country you would have died in Vietnam, we&#039;d be better off without you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred Peterson and his ilk are the real traitors. hey Fred, if you REALLY wanted to serve you country you would have died in Vietnam, we&#8217;d be better off without you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jrod</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the comments from the guy who got bit, supposedly.  OMG THAT ANIMAL &lt;b&gt;BIT&lt;/b&gt; ME!!!

It&#039;s just so savage!  Certainly nothing like war, where the marines line up on opposite ends of the field and take turns shooting at each other, and when one side gives up they all go down to the pub and have a laff together.

Then of course there&#039;s Fred Peterson, who thinks that stealing a grieving father&#039;s picture of his son is some sort of heroic Rambo-esque rescue mission.  Of course, in his defensive screed he never mentions that the picture was owned by the dead marine&#039;s father, but eh, what&#039;s that matter?

After all, like the other Seagulls point out, Arredono was simply being used by the left, since it&#039;s entirely impossible for anyone to be anti-war simply because it&#039;s stolen away their loved ones.  No, some insidious mind control is at work!  And who&#039;s Arradono to say what his son might want?  All he did was raise his son up from birth.  The person who really knows what that dead marine would want is a man who never met him but happened to be in the corps, cuz all marines think alike, amirite?

This isn&#039;t even good snark... sorry, it&#039;s just too sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the comments from the guy who got bit, supposedly.  OMG THAT ANIMAL <b>BIT</b> ME!!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just so savage!  Certainly nothing like war, where the marines line up on opposite ends of the field and take turns shooting at each other, and when one side gives up they all go down to the pub and have a laff together.</p>
<p>Then of course there&#8217;s Fred Peterson, who thinks that stealing a grieving father&#8217;s picture of his son is some sort of heroic Rambo-esque rescue mission.  Of course, in his defensive screed he never mentions that the picture was owned by the dead marine&#8217;s father, but eh, what&#8217;s that matter?</p>
<p>After all, like the other Seagulls point out, Arredono was simply being used by the left, since it&#8217;s entirely impossible for anyone to be anti-war simply because it&#8217;s stolen away their loved ones.  No, some insidious mind control is at work!  And who&#8217;s Arradono to say what his son might want?  All he did was raise his son up from birth.  The person who really knows what that dead marine would want is a man who never met him but happened to be in the corps, cuz all marines think alike, amirite?</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t even good snark&#8230; sorry, it&#8217;s just too sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Auguste</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282823</link>
		<dc:creator>Auguste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;zooming like a sackful of hornets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Stealing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>zooming like a sackful of hornets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stealing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282818</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy god.  These people are certifiably insane.  The pseudo-tac language, the complete removal from reality, how he, oops!, left out that the bearer of the image was the SOLDEIR&#039;S FATHER, WHO HE ASSAULTED.

Ooooohhh, those poor Eagles, had to go the the Hospital and get shots.  Damn brownies, with their diseases.

This man is a psychotic liar, and the fact that his ass isn&#039;t in jail right now is shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy god.  These people are certifiably insane.  The pseudo-tac language, the complete removal from reality, how he, oops!, left out that the bearer of the image was the SOLDEIR&#8217;S FATHER, WHO HE ASSAULTED.</p>
<p>Ooooohhh, those poor Eagles, had to go the the Hospital and get shots.  Damn brownies, with their diseases.</p>
<p>This man is a psychotic liar, and the fact that his ass isn&#8217;t in jail right now is shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: zsa</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282812</link>
		<dc:creator>zsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, makes you nostalgic for the good ol&#039; days of the small family crank lab, when Mom and Dad would send the kids round to the local drugstore on the weekend.  The sweet, acrid scent of poisonous, explosive gases wafting through the air.   Having your tooth fall out while eating corn-on-the-cob on the back porch, but it didn&#039;t matter cause you were zooming like a sackful of hornets.   Good times ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, makes you nostalgic for the good ol&#8217; days of the small family crank lab, when Mom and Dad would send the kids round to the local drugstore on the weekend.  The sweet, acrid scent of poisonous, explosive gases wafting through the air.   Having your tooth fall out while eating corn-on-the-cob on the back porch, but it didn&#8217;t matter cause you were zooming like a sackful of hornets.   Good times &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7200.html#comment-282806</link>
		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enervate?  That&#039;s either the most Freudian word choice possible or the nauseating, thieving little Frank Burns wannabe should&#039;ve stolen a dictionary instead of a picture of a dead son from his father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enervate?  That&#8217;s either the most Freudian word choice possible or the nauseating, thieving little Frank Burns wannabe should&#8217;ve stolen a dictionary instead of a picture of a dead son from his father.</p>
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