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		<title>By: Klein Chai! Part 94 &#171; Bartholomew&#8217;s Notes on Religion</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-639835</link>
		<dc:creator>Klein Chai! Part 94 &#171; Bartholomew&#8217;s Notes on Religion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Meanwhile, Klein’s interviews with Islamists provide fodder for his debut book, Schmoozing With Terrorists: From Hollywood to the Holy Land, Jihadists Reveal Their Global Plans–to a Jew! Blog Sadly No! has some details. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Meanwhile, Klein’s interviews with Islamists provide fodder for his debut book, Schmoozing With Terrorists: From Hollywood to the Holy Land, Jihadists Reveal Their Global Plans–to a Jew! Blog Sadly No! has some details. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hattie</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279414</link>
		<dc:creator>Hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Step away from my cat!</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279340</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on, now!  I&#039;m talking about her cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on, now!  I&#8217;m talking about her cat.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279323</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean that&#039;s not what they mean when they talk about &quot;getting some pussy&quot;?

Shit.  I&#039;ve got some &#039;splainin&#039; to do....

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean that&#8217;s not what they mean when they talk about &#8220;getting some pussy&#8221;?</p>
<p>Shit.  I&#8217;ve got some &#8216;splainin&#8217; to do&#8230;.</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Djur</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279307</link>
		<dc:creator>Djur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, mikey, do you really want to knob a cat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, mikey, do you really want to knob a cat?</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279286</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Smart, funny, and politically aware push nearly all of my buttons (and a good voice does the rest).&lt;/i&gt;

DAMMIT!!

I was most of the way there!!

But I&#039;ve been told I sound like the voice of Charlie Brown in the christmas peanuts cartoon...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Smart, funny, and politically aware push nearly all of my buttons (and a good voice does the rest).</i></p>
<p>DAMMIT!!</p>
<p>I was most of the way there!!</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve been told I sound like the voice of Charlie Brown in the christmas peanuts cartoon&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Qetesh the Abyssinian</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279243</link>
		<dc:creator>Qetesh the Abyssinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Candy said. What makes a man doable, from my perspective, is what&#039;s in his head, and not in what carries it around. Smart, funny, and politically aware push nearly all of my buttons (and a good voice does the rest).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Candy said. What makes a man doable, from my perspective, is what&#8217;s in his head, and not in what carries it around. Smart, funny, and politically aware push nearly all of my buttons (and a good voice does the rest).</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279086</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hillary will effect a premature withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq &lt;/i&gt;

That castrating BITCH!

(I can&#039;t believe we got through a hundred comments and no one made that joke yet. What are you guys doing, working or something?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hillary will effect a premature withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq </i></p>
<p>That castrating BITCH!</p>
<p>(I can&#8217;t believe we got through a hundred comments and no one made that joke yet. What are you guys doing, working or something?)</p>
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		<title>By: Clem</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-279039</link>
		<dc:creator>Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fat &quot;Waahh!,&quot; this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat &#8220;Waahh!,&#8221; this.</p>
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		<title>By: FlipYrWhig</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278997</link>
		<dc:creator>FlipYrWhig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;deaf, dumb, and blind&lt;/i&gt;

Cinnamon will take any excuse to work in a Who reference.  Coming soon:  &quot;Acid Queen&quot; Hillary Clinton wants to &quot;fiddle about&quot; with your healthcare!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>deaf, dumb, and blind</i></p>
<p>Cinnamon will take any excuse to work in a Who reference.  Coming soon:  &#8220;Acid Queen&#8221; Hillary Clinton wants to &#8220;fiddle about&#8221; with your healthcare!</p>
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		<title>By: Ripley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278964</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Indeed, one would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to have detected the daily exhortations to surrender emanating from our nation’s capital,...&lt;/i&gt;

I meant to remark on that line, as well.  How exactly would an inability to speak, i.e. being &#039;dumb&#039;, affect one&#039;s ability to detect anything?

sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Indeed, one would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to have detected the daily exhortations to surrender emanating from our nation’s capital,&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I meant to remark on that line, as well.  How exactly would an inability to speak, i.e. being &#8216;dumb&#8217;, affect one&#8217;s ability to detect anything?</p>
<p>sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278873</link>
		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some hot wingnut men.  Gad, back in his day, Mel Gibson was the epitome of doable, if looks and a great smile are all it takes. But there are three things that make a man, &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; man, utterly undoable, at least for me:

1.  Lack of a sense of humor.  
2.  Lack of intelligence.  
3.  Political or religious views that are way to the right.  

I could never, ever play James Carville&#039;s role.  Maybe that makes me an idealogue, I don&#039;t know.  But I&#039;ll take a smart, funny sammich addicted Lefty any day over Mel Gibson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some hot wingnut men.  Gad, back in his day, Mel Gibson was the epitome of doable, if looks and a great smile are all it takes. But there are three things that make a man, <i>any</i> man, utterly undoable, at least for me:</p>
<p>1.  Lack of a sense of humor.<br />
2.  Lack of intelligence.<br />
3.  Political or religious views that are way to the right.  </p>
<p>I could never, ever play James Carville&#8217;s role.  Maybe that makes me an idealogue, I don&#8217;t know.  But I&#8217;ll take a smart, funny sammich addicted Lefty any day over Mel Gibson.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Coelacanth</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278866</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Coelacanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL Ripley</description>
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		<title>By: MrWonderful</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278863</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWonderful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Indeed, one would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to have detected the daily exhortations to surrender emanating from our nation’s capital, not to mention the streets and salons of cities such as my very own San Francisco.&quot;

Your assurance of only the very worst!  

&quot;detected&quot; and &quot;emanating&quot; = It Pays to Increase Your Word Power-esque vocab-flaunting.  Puh-leeze.  

She&#039;s a &quot;writer&quot; you&#039;ll never read anywhere except online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Indeed, one would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to have detected the daily exhortations to surrender emanating from our nation’s capital, not to mention the streets and salons of cities such as my very own San Francisco.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your assurance of only the very worst!  </p>
<p>&#8220;detected&#8221; and &#8220;emanating&#8221; = It Pays to Increase Your Word Power-esque vocab-flaunting.  Puh-leeze.  </p>
<p>She&#8217;s a &#8220;writer&#8221; you&#8217;ll never read anywhere except online.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278862</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met &#039;Jamil&#039; (not his real name) at a trendy, uptown coffee shop on a brisk Autumn morning.  His gray tweed slacks bespoke an understated elegance and gentle formality, while his Sex Pistols t-shirt and Abercrombie double-wide corduroy shirt-jac reminded me of Saturdays spent watching my father tinker with his beloved, yet undriveable, &#039;68 Mustang Fastback.  This was clearly a man with great ambition, yet happy to take some much needed time off from the Clinton Campaign trail.

He didn&#039;t sit in his chair so much as absorb it, his weary frame adopting the loose and somewhat angular construction of a young Mick Jagger or a Blue Heron.  And while his body silently recounted the long days and nights of a serious political campaign, his eyes seemed to barely contain the rambunctious &lt;i&gt;joi de vivre&lt;/i&gt; of Pee Wee Herman on a Sugar Smacks bender.

I asked &#039;Jamil&#039; if he had one message that people should hear.  He lazily shook a packet of NutraSweet and hummed a few bars of Al Green as he thought about his answer.  Then, he leaned back in his chair and said, &quot;If you do not vote for Hillary Clinton I will Kill you!  KILL YOU!!  You and all your family!!&quot;

&quot;Kill us?&quot;

&quot;Yes, kill you!!  Wait, is that going in the book?  I don&#039;t think I... no, never mind. .. go ahead and quote me on that.&quot;

He seemed to be in another place for a moment, his jaw working quietly as he picked up the Al Green song again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met &#8216;Jamil&#8217; (not his real name) at a trendy, uptown coffee shop on a brisk Autumn morning.  His gray tweed slacks bespoke an understated elegance and gentle formality, while his Sex Pistols t-shirt and Abercrombie double-wide corduroy shirt-jac reminded me of Saturdays spent watching my father tinker with his beloved, yet undriveable, &#8217;68 Mustang Fastback.  This was clearly a man with great ambition, yet happy to take some much needed time off from the Clinton Campaign trail.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t sit in his chair so much as absorb it, his weary frame adopting the loose and somewhat angular construction of a young Mick Jagger or a Blue Heron.  And while his body silently recounted the long days and nights of a serious political campaign, his eyes seemed to barely contain the rambunctious <i>joi de vivre</i> of Pee Wee Herman on a Sugar Smacks bender.</p>
<p>I asked &#8216;Jamil&#8217; if he had one message that people should hear.  He lazily shook a packet of NutraSweet and hummed a few bars of Al Green as he thought about his answer.  Then, he leaned back in his chair and said, &#8220;If you do not vote for Hillary Clinton I will Kill you!  KILL YOU!!  You and all your family!!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Kill us?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, kill you!!  Wait, is that going in the book?  I don&#8217;t think I&#8230; no, never mind. .. go ahead and quote me on that.&#8221;</p>
<p>He seemed to be in another place for a moment, his jaw working quietly as he picked up the Al Green song again.</p>
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		<title>By: Pere Ubu</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278861</link>
		<dc:creator>Pere Ubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sometimes there is just something about “sleeping with the enemy”, so to speak.&lt;/I&gt;

Jerry: Not conversion. You&#039;re thinking conversion?

Elaine: Well it did occur to me.

Jerry: You think you can get him to just change teams? He&#039;s not going to suddenly switch sides. Forget 

about it.

Elaine: Why? Is it irrevocable?

Jerry: Because when you join that team it&#039;s not a whim. He likes his team. He&#039;s set with that team.

Elaine: We&#039;ve got a good team.

Jerry: Yeah, we do. We do have a good team.

Elaine: Why can&#039;t he play for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sometimes there is just something about “sleeping with the enemy”, so to speak.</i></p>
<p>Jerry: Not conversion. You&#8217;re thinking conversion?</p>
<p>Elaine: Well it did occur to me.</p>
<p>Jerry: You think you can get him to just change teams? He&#8217;s not going to suddenly switch sides. Forget </p>
<p>about it.</p>
<p>Elaine: Why? Is it irrevocable?</p>
<p>Jerry: Because when you join that team it&#8217;s not a whim. He likes his team. He&#8217;s set with that team.</p>
<p>Elaine: We&#8217;ve got a good team.</p>
<p>Jerry: Yeah, we do. We do have a good team.</p>
<p>Elaine: Why can&#8217;t he play for us?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Green</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278852</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you can&#039;t find any examples in a sadly no thread where a pastor swank, say, has someone ask &quot;would you hit it&quot;?

frankly, i would hit it really hard, with my fist in its face.  but still, the double standard suggests that others are right, and this is just pointless sexism that isn&#039;t even as funny as other stuff on the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you can&#8217;t find any examples in a sadly no thread where a pastor swank, say, has someone ask &#8220;would you hit it&#8221;?</p>
<p>frankly, i would hit it really hard, with my fist in its face.  but still, the double standard suggests that others are right, and this is just pointless sexism that isn&#8217;t even as funny as other stuff on the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: MCH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the doability imbalance is partly due to male piggishness, and partly due to the inherent and utter undoability of most wingnut men.

One can easily imagine a universe in which reasonable people disagree about the attractiveness of Michelle Malkin. There is no such universe* in which the same can be said of Dafydd ab Hugh.


* &quot;No such universe&quot; unless said universe contains an excess of self-loathing and outre fetishes, to be specific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the doability imbalance is partly due to male piggishness, and partly due to the inherent and utter undoability of most wingnut men.</p>
<p>One can easily imagine a universe in which reasonable people disagree about the attractiveness of Michelle Malkin. There is no such universe* in which the same can be said of Dafydd ab Hugh.</p>
<p>* &#8220;No such universe&#8221; unless said universe contains an excess of self-loathing and outre fetishes, to be specific.</p>
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		<title>By: bl0ndej0n</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278846</link>
		<dc:creator>bl0ndej0n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m as guilty as the next person when it comes to applying sammiches and celery to the wingnuts but get bent out of shape by comments like “I would still do her.” It pisses me off that all women still have to contend with this bullshit. 

“I would still do her” (and all that implies) makes you who say it at least the equivalent of the wingnut you would do.
&lt;/i&gt;

I dunno, men are pigs.  If the point is that her worth as a person or the value of her ideas can be judged by her photo, then yeah, we may as well be wingnuts.

At least from my end, they are two almost totally unrelated conversations.  Maybe the &quot;would you do her?&quot; line of commentary shouldn&#039;t even be here at all, on a snarky blog about wingnut writers, since it has no bearing on her or her writing.  

But the thing is, her writing DOES have some bearing on her &quot;doability&quot;.  Sometimes there is just something about &quot;sleeping with the enemy&quot;, so to speak.  Evolutionary drive to cross-pollinate?  Misogynist fantasy of conquering through sex (as a ritual substitute for violent force?) Who knows? I&#039;m not dehumanizing her and all other women any more than sammich jokes dehumanize all fat people.  It is just this additional reaction, sort of on the side.

Should I, and the other meathead boys keep that to ourselves? Probably. Does it make us just as bad as the warmongering, racist, sexist, theocratic homophobes? C&#039;mon now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m as guilty as the next person when it comes to applying sammiches and celery to the wingnuts but get bent out of shape by comments like “I would still do her.” It pisses me off that all women still have to contend with this bullshit. </p>
<p>“I would still do her” (and all that implies) makes you who say it at least the equivalent of the wingnut you would do.<br />
</i></p>
<p>I dunno, men are pigs.  If the point is that her worth as a person or the value of her ideas can be judged by her photo, then yeah, we may as well be wingnuts.</p>
<p>At least from my end, they are two almost totally unrelated conversations.  Maybe the &#8220;would you do her?&#8221; line of commentary shouldn&#8217;t even be here at all, on a snarky blog about wingnut writers, since it has no bearing on her or her writing.  </p>
<p>But the thing is, her writing DOES have some bearing on her &#8220;doability&#8221;.  Sometimes there is just something about &#8220;sleeping with the enemy&#8221;, so to speak.  Evolutionary drive to cross-pollinate?  Misogynist fantasy of conquering through sex (as a ritual substitute for violent force?) Who knows? I&#8217;m not dehumanizing her and all other women any more than sammich jokes dehumanize all fat people.  It is just this additional reaction, sort of on the side.</p>
<p>Should I, and the other meathead boys keep that to ourselves? Probably. Does it make us just as bad as the warmongering, racist, sexist, theocratic homophobes? C&#8217;mon now.</p>
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		<title>By: zsa</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7158.html#comment-278836</link>
		<dc:creator>zsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;all conservative writers look like wackaloons.&lt;/i&gt;

Serious question here.  Can we name conservative writers who aren&#039;t wackaloons?   Wackaloonyism is one of the defining characteristics of the field, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>all conservative writers look like wackaloons.</i></p>
<p>Serious question here.  Can we name conservative writers who aren&#8217;t wackaloons?   Wackaloonyism is one of the defining characteristics of the field, after all.</p>
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