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		<title>By: Gentlewoman</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-258259</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentlewoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Time to start digging up all the wingnut denials from last year when Craig was first outed.&lt;/i&gt;

Glennzilla. On point, as usual:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/28/craig/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Time to start digging up all the wingnut denials from last year when Craig was first outed.</i></p>
<p>Glennzilla. On point, as usual:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/28/craig/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/28/craig/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: wordyeti</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-258248</link>
		<dc:creator>wordyeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; they are not sufficiently off-putting, as the intake of a running jet engine or the smokestack of an aluminum smelter might be.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m getting into the comments a little late here, but I had to throw down on this one. Dude - have you ever smelled the inside of some of the public restrooms of rural American?  I say this as a man who grew up mucking out the barn in spring, which is one of the truly awful tasks that inspired me to finish college. 

I&#039;ve driven across the country a couple of times; pounding down a 44-oz. Supertanker of Mountain Dew to try to make it to Tucumcari without falling into a sleep-deprivation coma leads to having to make some pretty desperate pee breaks in dodgy &quot;rest stops.&quot;  

Some of them would make the aforementioned aluminum smelter seem tolerable.  

You have to have a serious screw loose to find such an (ahem) atmosphere exciting in a sexual way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> they are not sufficiently off-putting, as the intake of a running jet engine or the smokestack of an aluminum smelter might be.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting into the comments a little late here, but I had to throw down on this one. Dude &#8211; have you ever smelled the inside of some of the public restrooms of rural American?  I say this as a man who grew up mucking out the barn in spring, which is one of the truly awful tasks that inspired me to finish college. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve driven across the country a couple of times; pounding down a 44-oz. Supertanker of Mountain Dew to try to make it to Tucumcari without falling into a sleep-deprivation coma leads to having to make some pretty desperate pee breaks in dodgy &#8220;rest stops.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Some of them would make the aforementioned aluminum smelter seem tolerable.  </p>
<p>You have to have a serious screw loose to find such an (ahem) atmosphere exciting in a sexual way.</p>
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		<title>By: dadanarchist</title>
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		<dc:creator>dadanarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to start digging up all the wingnut denials from last year when Craig was first outed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to start digging up all the wingnut denials from last year when Craig was first outed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-258077</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These stories make me tired.  

I travel a lot, and end up using airport toilets while waiting for flights.  So now, groggy from jet lag, I also have to worry about toe-tapping rightwing Republicans?  Can&#039;t they provide a special stall for these guys to do their thing and leave the rest alone?  

Their stalls could even have a universal sign--a stick figure with a cross in one hand and another man&#039;s cock in the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These stories make me tired.  </p>
<p>I travel a lot, and end up using airport toilets while waiting for flights.  So now, groggy from jet lag, I also have to worry about toe-tapping rightwing Republicans?  Can&#8217;t they provide a special stall for these guys to do their thing and leave the rest alone?  </p>
<p>Their stalls could even have a universal sign&#8211;a stick figure with a cross in one hand and another man&#8217;s cock in the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would explain why the Senate gavel keeps disappearing.

Why, and where ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would explain why the Senate gavel keeps disappearing.</p>
<p>Why, and where &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Screamin' Demon</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257989</link>
		<dc:creator>Screamin' Demon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo&amp;eurl=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Damn, Lisa Myers was actually teh hot back in the day.&lt;/a&gt;

Now she&#039;s just a fat ugly media whore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo&amp;eurl=" rel="nofollow">Damn, Lisa Myers was actually teh hot back in the day.</a></p>
<p>Now she&#8217;s just a fat ugly media whore.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Holland</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257968</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hey, Henry Holland: Do you know anything about “wearing green on Thursdays” to let the other gay folk know you were one of them? Or was that before your time? Or an urban myth?&lt;/i&gt;

I remember it from Maupin&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Tales of the City&lt;/i&gt;, though why on earth anyone in 1970&#039;s San Francisco had to resort to code to find other gay men is beyond me.   If you couldn&#039;t get laid in 1970&#039;s San Francisco, you simply weren&#039;t trying or looked like Daffyd ab Hugh and even he would have been a hit with the chubby chasers.

&lt;i&gt;I first heard it in the ’60s.I do remember all that stuff w/ the bandannas from the ’70s&lt;/i&gt;

Those fucking bandannas! There was never any conformity to what they meant and even the whole left = top, right = bottom thing was never clear to me or my friends.  A rather inept way to signal other people your intentions, I&#039;d say.

&lt;i&gt;Bigger question for restroom usage/stance (not just for Henry, or gay people in general): Do you just let your pants flop down to the floor, or do you keep the feet close together &amp; the knees wide apart to keep your pants from hitting the floor?&lt;/i&gt;

The latter.  Pants touch the floor? *SHUDDER*  You don&#039;t know what&#039;s on that floor, best be safe, picking up a stain in an awkward spot of your Dockers would be social death.  

Never did the bathroom stall thing --I much preferred soft sheets, candles and Debussy piano music on the CD player-- though, once, an allegedly straight co-worker suggested we go in to the bathroom stalls --separate ones-- and jack off, which we did.  I often wondered if he told some woman he married that he was gay when he was 42 and our little stall-a-thon was his first tentative step out of the closet.

It&#039;ll never get any better I suspect, but I wish there weren&#039;t so many damn hangups about sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hey, Henry Holland: Do you know anything about “wearing green on Thursdays” to let the other gay folk know you were one of them? Or was that before your time? Or an urban myth?</i></p>
<p>I remember it from Maupin&#8217;s <i>Tales of the City</i>, though why on earth anyone in 1970&#8242;s San Francisco had to resort to code to find other gay men is beyond me.   If you couldn&#8217;t get laid in 1970&#8242;s San Francisco, you simply weren&#8217;t trying or looked like Daffyd ab Hugh and even he would have been a hit with the chubby chasers.</p>
<p><i>I first heard it in the ’60s.I do remember all that stuff w/ the bandannas from the ’70s</i></p>
<p>Those fucking bandannas! There was never any conformity to what they meant and even the whole left = top, right = bottom thing was never clear to me or my friends.  A rather inept way to signal other people your intentions, I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p><i>Bigger question for restroom usage/stance (not just for Henry, or gay people in general): Do you just let your pants flop down to the floor, or do you keep the feet close together &amp; the knees wide apart to keep your pants from hitting the floor?</i></p>
<p>The latter.  Pants touch the floor? *SHUDDER*  You don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s on that floor, best be safe, picking up a stain in an awkward spot of your Dockers would be social death.  </p>
<p>Never did the bathroom stall thing &#8211;I much preferred soft sheets, candles and Debussy piano music on the CD player&#8211; though, once, an allegedly straight co-worker suggested we go in to the bathroom stalls &#8211;separate ones&#8211; and jack off, which we did.  I often wondered if he told some woman he married that he was gay when he was 42 and our little stall-a-thon was his first tentative step out of the closet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll never get any better I suspect, but I wish there weren&#8217;t so many damn hangups about sex.</p>
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		<title>By: TRex</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, this shit never happens to me.  I am a full-on, raging queer.  I have never been approached in a public restroom in my freaking life.  This is the first I&#039;ve heard about all this foot-tapping stuff.

The world these people inhabit is completely outside the realm of my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this shit never happens to me.  I am a full-on, raging queer.  I have never been approached in a public restroom in my freaking life.  This is the first I&#8217;ve heard about all this foot-tapping stuff.</p>
<p>The world these people inhabit is completely outside the realm of my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmosis</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep saying it people: Craig was doing recon for the Repug Convention next summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep saying it people: Craig was doing recon for the Repug Convention next summer.</p>
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		<title>By: noen - assumptress of ubiquitous representation</title>
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		<dc:creator>noen - assumptress of ubiquitous representation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you assume a &quot;wide stance&quot; with pants on? You would have to take them off wouldn&#039;t you? &#039;Cause otherwise you can&#039;t get your feet much more than 20 inches apart. Sure if they were around your ankles you could get your knees pretty far apart, but not your feet. I think he had his pants off or at least one leg out.

This ups the &#039;ick&#039; factor quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you assume a &#8220;wide stance&#8221; with pants on? You would have to take them off wouldn&#8217;t you? &#8216;Cause otherwise you can&#8217;t get your feet much more than 20 inches apart. Sure if they were around your ankles you could get your knees pretty far apart, but not your feet. I think he had his pants off or at least one leg out.</p>
<p>This ups the &#8216;ick&#8217; factor quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: GoatBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257901</link>
		<dc:creator>GoatBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Comments on RedState.org talk about those practices.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Comments on RedState.org talk about those practices.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Daily.</p>
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		<title>By: DEMIZE!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257891</link>
		<dc:creator>DEMIZE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Pacino,&quot;Cruising&quot;Remember the scene where he&#039;s getting kitted up to look like roughtrade.But your right,Bouffant,I&#039;d think the cops would have better ways of spending tax payer money.But what the hell did he think he was gonna get reaching his hand under the stall,a handshake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Pacino,&#8221;Cruising&#8221;Remember the scene where he&#8217;s getting kitted up to look like roughtrade.But your right,Bouffant,I&#8217;d think the cops would have better ways of spending tax payer money.But what the hell did he think he was gonna get reaching his hand under the stall,a handshake?</p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257880</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, on the other hand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, on the other hand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257879</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Henry Holland: Do you know anything about &quot;wearing green on Thursdays&quot; to let the other gay folk know you were one of them? Or was that before your time? Or an urban myth? I first heard it in the &#039;60s.I do remember all that stuff w/ the bandannas from the &#039;70s. 
Bigger question for restroom usage/stance (not just for Henry, or gay people in general): Do you just let your pants flop down to the floor, or do you keep the feet close together &amp; the knees wide apart to keep your pants from hitting the floor? 
Either way, no one in a public rest room who isn&#039;t looking to make new friends is going to take a &quot;wide stance&quot; when sitting on the seat made of stone. But the whole thing does smack of entrapment. No one&#039;s going to take a &quot;wide stance&quot; w/o some reason to do so, and I doubt the Denver airport is a prime spot for this sort of thing to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Henry Holland: Do you know anything about &#8220;wearing green on Thursdays&#8221; to let the other gay folk know you were one of them? Or was that before your time? Or an urban myth? I first heard it in the &#8217;60s.I do remember all that stuff w/ the bandannas from the &#8217;70s.<br />
Bigger question for restroom usage/stance (not just for Henry, or gay people in general): Do you just let your pants flop down to the floor, or do you keep the feet close together &amp; the knees wide apart to keep your pants from hitting the floor?<br />
Either way, no one in a public rest room who isn&#8217;t looking to make new friends is going to take a &#8220;wide stance&#8221; when sitting on the seat made of stone. But the whole thing does smack of entrapment. No one&#8217;s going to take a &#8220;wide stance&#8221; w/o some reason to do so, and I doubt the Denver airport is a prime spot for this sort of thing to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: EdsAppliance</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdsAppliance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states. Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that “I could … see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider.”

Karsnia then held his police identification down by the floor so that Craig could see it.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states. Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that “I could … see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider.”</p>
<p>Karsnia then held his police identification down by the floor so that Craig could see it.”</p>
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		<title>By: Heywood J.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257870</link>
		<dc:creator>Heywood J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a nice &lt;a href=&quot;http://hammeroftheblogs.blogspot.com/2007/08/craigslist.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LOLCraig&lt;/a&gt; to share with teh kidz. The hard hat is kind of a turn-on, in the &quot;World&#039;s Oldest Village Person&quot; sort of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a nice <a href="http://hammeroftheblogs.blogspot.com/2007/08/craigslist.html" rel="nofollow">LOLCraig</a> to share with teh kidz. The hard hat is kind of a turn-on, in the &#8220;World&#8217;s Oldest Village Person&#8221; sort of way.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy Metal Librarian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Douchebaggery</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257866</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavy Metal Librarian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Douchebaggery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another self-hating Republican closet case was caught soliciting sex in a public bathroom. This is going to make the &#8220;Teh Gay Agenda Is Seducing Ur [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] another self-hating Republican closet case was caught soliciting sex in a public bathroom. This is going to make the &#8220;Teh Gay Agenda Is Seducing Ur [...]</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6965.html#comment-257860</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I had a hunch about the guy when I saw him at the Bee Gees convention, humming songs from The Music Man while licking my heiny.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kevin, I think you&#039;re jumping to conclusions. Didn&#039;t you read the article, the Senator has an EXTREMELY wide stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>I had a hunch about the guy when I saw him at the Bee Gees convention, humming songs from The Music Man while licking my heiny.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Kevin, I think you&#8217;re jumping to conclusions. Didn&#8217;t you read the article, the Senator has an EXTREMELY wide stance.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/051710.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Craig, Listing&lt;/a&gt; Oven Mitt&#039;s leadership qualities and family values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/051710.php" rel="nofollow">Craig, Listing</a> Oven Mitt&#8217;s leadership qualities and family values.</p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
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		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459775&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Consider&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember the wide stance? Well, you must also force your knees out hard during the entire motion and push out on the sides of your shoes while you squat. This keeps the tension in the hips where it should be. This is also why most squat shoes, tennis shoes, and cross trainers suck for squatting. The best shoes for squatting are Converse Chuck Taylor All Stars. The soles are flat and the side construction is rugged enough to push out against without a blowout…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You know what Craig&#039;s problem was?  He just had the wrong shoes on that day.  None of this would&#039;ve happened if he had worn his Chuck Taylors.</description>
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<blockquote><p>Remember the wide stance? Well, you must also force your knees out hard during the entire motion and push out on the sides of your shoes while you squat. This keeps the tension in the hips where it should be. This is also why most squat shoes, tennis shoes, and cross trainers suck for squatting. The best shoes for squatting are Converse Chuck Taylor All Stars. The soles are flat and the side construction is rugged enough to push out against without a blowout…</p></blockquote>
<p>You know what Craig&#8217;s problem was?  He just had the wrong shoes on that day.  None of this would&#8217;ve happened if he had worn his Chuck Taylors.</p>
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