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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Word</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-307780</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the ACLU on civil liberties matters than the Bushies are. But her instincts on executive power and an imperial foreign policy seem completely wrong to me. Here&#8217;s hoping Obama (or someone not named Biden) can rally an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the ACLU on civil liberties matters than the Bushies are. But her instincts on executive power and an imperial foreign policy seem completely wrong to me. Here&#8217;s hoping Obama (or someone not named Biden) can rally an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255939</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let&#039;s see if I have got this straight. You have this politician, whom for convenience I shall label as GWB, who had the opportunity a few decades ago to risk his life in the Great Patriotic War against Vietnam, but with the help of his family he preferred to go AWOL for the duration. And now he is explaining that the Great Patriotic War could have been won, if only a few more American lives had been risked. The fault for the loss of the war therefore rests in the laps of, umm, everyone except him.

Why is he not being pelted with rotten fruit? Do you not have a source of sufficiently rotten fruit in the US? Can&#039;t you import them from China or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let&#8217;s see if I have got this straight. You have this politician, whom for convenience I shall label as GWB, who had the opportunity a few decades ago to risk his life in the Great Patriotic War against Vietnam, but with the help of his family he preferred to go AWOL for the duration. And now he is explaining that the Great Patriotic War could have been won, if only a few more American lives had been risked. The fault for the loss of the war therefore rests in the laps of, umm, everyone except him.</p>
<p>Why is he not being pelted with rotten fruit? Do you not have a source of sufficiently rotten fruit in the US? Can&#8217;t you import them from China or something?</p>
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		<title>By: DEMIZE!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255772</link>
		<dc:creator>DEMIZE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hildog would approve of,oh I don&#039;t know,maybe Benjamin Netanyahu,yes,yes,Benjamin Netanyahu sounds about right.Right after partitioning goes ahead as planned.My head hurts....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hildog would approve of,oh I don&#8217;t know,maybe Benjamin Netanyahu,yes,yes,Benjamin Netanyahu sounds about right.Right after partitioning goes ahead as planned.My head hurts&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.BDH</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255740</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.BDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was always under the impression that we won when we left Viet Name.  &quot;We&quot; being us anti-war types.  The pro-war types lost, at least until Ronnie Raygun assumed power.  It&#039;s been all pro-war all the time since then.  Maybe this clusterfuck in Iraq will shift that back again.

Start holding breath.....now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always under the impression that we won when we left Viet Name.  &#8220;We&#8221; being us anti-war types.  The pro-war types lost, at least until Ronnie Raygun assumed power.  It&#8217;s been all pro-war all the time since then.  Maybe this clusterfuck in Iraq will shift that back again.</p>
<p>Start holding breath&#8230;..now!</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255731</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And who, exactly, is that gonna be, Hill? We’ve gone through Allawi, Jaafari and Maliki. None of them have worked.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What about Jhinga Karahi, or Mughlai Biryani, or Paneer Makhani?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And who, exactly, is that gonna be, Hill? We’ve gone through Allawi, Jaafari and Maliki. None of them have worked.</p></blockquote>
<p>What about Jhinga Karahi, or Mughlai Biryani, or Paneer Makhani?</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255705</link>
		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm,...&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Centripetal force&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm,&#8230;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force" rel="nofollow">Centripetal force</a></p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255671</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My my, at waterloo napoleon did surrender
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to fight you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn’t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - finally facing my waterloo

My my, I tried to hold you back but you were stronger
Oh yeah, and now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight
And how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to fight you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn’t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you

And how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to fight you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn’t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - finally facing my waterloo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My my, at waterloo napoleon did surrender<br />
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way<br />
The history book on the shelf<br />
Is always repeating itself</p>
<p>Waterloo &#8211; I was defeated, you won the war<br />
Waterloo &#8211; promise to fight you for ever more<br />
Waterloo &#8211; couldn’t escape if I wanted to<br />
Waterloo &#8211; knowing my fate is to be with you<br />
Waterloo &#8211; finally facing my waterloo</p>
<p>My my, I tried to hold you back but you were stronger<br />
Oh yeah, and now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight<br />
And how could I ever refuse<br />
I feel like I win when I lose</p>
<p>Waterloo &#8211; I was defeated, you won the war<br />
Waterloo &#8211; promise to fight you for ever more<br />
Waterloo &#8211; couldn’t escape if I wanted to<br />
Waterloo &#8211; knowing my fate is to be with you</p>
<p>And how could I ever refuse<br />
I feel like I win when I lose</p>
<p>Waterloo &#8211; I was defeated, you won the war<br />
Waterloo &#8211; promise to fight you for ever more<br />
Waterloo &#8211; couldn’t escape if I wanted to<br />
Waterloo &#8211; knowing my fate is to be with you<br />
Waterloo &#8211; finally facing my waterloo</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255668</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I forgot that the Vietnam analogy is now wingnut approved. It’s so hard keeping up.&lt;/i&gt;

Hey!  Just because we lost doesn&#039;t mean we didn&#039;t win!

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I forgot that the Vietnam analogy is now wingnut approved. It’s so hard keeping up.</i></p>
<p>Hey!  Just because we lost doesn&#8217;t mean we didn&#8217;t win!</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255663</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And who, exactly, is that gonna be, Hill?&quot;

Mickey Mouse, of course. Hamas loves him. Americo-philes love him. It&#039;s a win-win situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And who, exactly, is that gonna be, Hill?&#8221;</p>
<p>Mickey Mouse, of course. Hamas loves him. Americo-philes love him. It&#8217;s a win-win situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255623</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I forgot that the Vietnam analogy is now wingnut approved. It’s so hard keeping up.&lt;/i&gt;

First Iraq was so emphatically nothing like Vietnam. Now Iraq is indeed a second Vietnam -- and the US would have won the first one, if it weren&#039;t for all those &lt;strike&gt;draft-dodging rich kids who are now the government&lt;/strike&gt; meddling kids in the media.
All this flip-flopping is very confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I forgot that the Vietnam analogy is now wingnut approved. It’s so hard keeping up.</i></p>
<p>First Iraq was so emphatically nothing like Vietnam. Now Iraq is indeed a second Vietnam &#8212; and the US would have won the first one, if it weren&#8217;t for all those <strike>draft-dodging rich kids who are now the government</strike> meddling kids in the media.<br />
All this flip-flopping is very confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake H.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255611</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Grover Norquist’s dream for America?&lt;/i&gt;

Tee!  Zzzinga!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Grover Norquist’s dream for America?</i></p>
<p>Tee!  Zzzinga!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LA Confidential Pantload</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255604</link>
		<dc:creator>LA Confidential Pantload</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe she&#039;s looking for a job for Bill.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe she&#8217;s looking for a job for Bill&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: sagra</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255601</link>
		<dc:creator>sagra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What else do you call that?&quot;

Grover Norquist&#039;s dream for America?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What else do you call that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Grover Norquist&#8217;s dream for America?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake H.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The problem of Iraq is that four years of a botched bloody occupation have created a failed state...&lt;/i&gt;
I&#039;ve been waiting for this.  We had months of people getting used to the &quot;civil war&quot; idea, and I figured it would be only a matter of time before someone dropped the FS-bomb to refer to the current situation in Iraq, rather than about some horrible future scenario should the US pull out.

I&#039;m no expert, but it&#039;s looked like a failed state to me for a long time.  What we call the Iraqi government simply doesn&#039;t control vast portions of the country.  What else do you call that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The problem of Iraq is that four years of a botched bloody occupation have created a failed state&#8230;</i><br />
I&#8217;ve been waiting for this.  We had months of people getting used to the &#8220;civil war&#8221; idea, and I figured it would be only a matter of time before someone dropped the FS-bomb to refer to the current situation in Iraq, rather than about some horrible future scenario should the US pull out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert, but it&#8217;s looked like a failed state to me for a long time.  What we call the Iraqi government simply doesn&#8217;t control vast portions of the country.  What else do you call that?</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255588</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any body see the Carpetbagger?

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/12631.html

Mark Noonan is clearly on a roll, like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...those of us who live in the real world understand that in President Bush we have a nearly uniquely honest President - so honest that it has cost him dear in terms of political power and support. The common refrain of how we just need an honest man in the White House has been answered - and never, I think, has a man been more slandered than President Bush; honesty is hated in large areas of the world. The relentless campaign of lies and half-truths directed against President Bush has taken its toll….&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any body see the Carpetbagger?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/12631.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/12631.html</a></p>
<p>Mark Noonan is clearly on a roll, like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;those of us who live in the real world understand that in President Bush we have a nearly uniquely honest President &#8211; so honest that it has cost him dear in terms of political power and support. The common refrain of how we just need an honest man in the White House has been answered &#8211; and never, I think, has a man been more slandered than President Bush; honesty is hated in large areas of the world. The relentless campaign of lies and half-truths directed against President Bush has taken its toll….</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bistroist</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255570</link>
		<dc:creator>Bistroist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Who’s the “former military leadership” they can draw on to fill out this new government? Oh yeah, Saddam’s former Baath generals and colonels. That’s gonna go over great with the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council and the Badr brigades. I’m certain that’s a solution that will not only lead to peace and prosperity, but won’t we be proud of this new democracy…&lt;/em&gt;

How about a shah? I&#039;m pretty sure they&#039;d like to try one of those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who’s the “former military leadership” they can draw on to fill out this new government? Oh yeah, Saddam’s former Baath generals and colonels. That’s gonna go over great with the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council and the Badr brigades. I’m certain that’s a solution that will not only lead to peace and prosperity, but won’t we be proud of this new democracy…</em></p>
<p>How about a shah? I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;d like to try one of those.</p>
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		<title>By: billy pilgrim</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255563</link>
		<dc:creator>billy pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, if we HAD stayed in Vietnam, it would have junked our armed forces so totally that this little Middle Eastern Escapade would have been unthinkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, if we HAD stayed in Vietnam, it would have junked our armed forces so totally that this little Middle Eastern Escapade would have been unthinkable.</p>
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		<title>By: zsa</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255561</link>
		<dc:creator>zsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so disgusted with the Democrats that I don&#039;t consider myself to be one anymore, but ...

Why does Hillary, or anyone else, need to have an opinion here?   It&#039;s not like Bush and Cheney will pay any attention to anything a Democrat says ... unless &lt;i&gt;they need political cover for fostering a coup in Iraq, as a preface to attacking Iran&lt;/i&gt;.

After all, the surge has been advertised as a &quot;great success&quot;, and Iraq is still a massive clusterfuck.  How can that be?  By definition, that can&#039;t be Bush&#039;s fault, so it pretty much has to be Maliki&#039;s.  So they need to dump Maliki ... he&#039;s the fall guy for the failure of the glorious surge ... and the new government will be promised a nice juicy chuck of Iran (Shatt-al-Arab, anyone??) in order to play along.

But all the Dems should do is stand back.  They can&#039;t control events.  All their oh-so-reasonable statements do is provide a fig-leaf of bi-partisanship for whatever Bush&#039;s next horrible fuckup is going to be.  It&#039;s pretty clear that&#039;s going to be the installation of an anti-Iranian government in Baghdad (which means Baathists and Sunni insurgents).  Because then they can attack Iran and not worry as much about totally losing control of the ground situation in Iraq.  

All any Dem should say is &quot;This is George Bush and the Republican&#039;s war.  It&#039;s a utter disaster for our nation and it will continue to be an utter disaster until the people vote in different leadership&quot;.

This is Bush&#039;s war, and Bush is the Republican&#039;s guy.  This is their noose.  Let it hang them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so disgusted with the Democrats that I don&#8217;t consider myself to be one anymore, but &#8230;</p>
<p>Why does Hillary, or anyone else, need to have an opinion here?   It&#8217;s not like Bush and Cheney will pay any attention to anything a Democrat says &#8230; unless <i>they need political cover for fostering a coup in Iraq, as a preface to attacking Iran</i>.</p>
<p>After all, the surge has been advertised as a &#8220;great success&#8221;, and Iraq is still a massive clusterfuck.  How can that be?  By definition, that can&#8217;t be Bush&#8217;s fault, so it pretty much has to be Maliki&#8217;s.  So they need to dump Maliki &#8230; he&#8217;s the fall guy for the failure of the glorious surge &#8230; and the new government will be promised a nice juicy chuck of Iran (Shatt-al-Arab, anyone??) in order to play along.</p>
<p>But all the Dems should do is stand back.  They can&#8217;t control events.  All their oh-so-reasonable statements do is provide a fig-leaf of bi-partisanship for whatever Bush&#8217;s next horrible fuckup is going to be.  It&#8217;s pretty clear that&#8217;s going to be the installation of an anti-Iranian government in Baghdad (which means Baathists and Sunni insurgents).  Because then they can attack Iran and not worry as much about totally losing control of the ground situation in Iraq.  </p>
<p>All any Dem should say is &#8220;This is George Bush and the Republican&#8217;s war.  It&#8217;s a utter disaster for our nation and it will continue to be an utter disaster until the people vote in different leadership&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is Bush&#8217;s war, and Bush is the Republican&#8217;s guy.  This is their noose.  Let it hang them.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorghagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snorghagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush&#039;s comparison of Iraq to Vietnam was in preparation for a dramatic change in US policy. The administration is about to reanimate Nguyen Van Thieu and proclaim him President of Iraq.

Next week they&#039;ll be unveiling the zombified General Westmoreland, who will be taking command of the Surge. Or of Surge II. Or the Unsurge. Or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush&#8217;s comparison of Iraq to Vietnam was in preparation for a dramatic change in US policy. The administration is about to reanimate Nguyen Van Thieu and proclaim him President of Iraq.</p>
<p>Next week they&#8217;ll be unveiling the zombified General Westmoreland, who will be taking command of the Surge. Or of Surge II. Or the Unsurge. Or something.</p>
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		<title>By: kingubu</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6922.html#comment-255554</link>
		<dc:creator>kingubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bradrocket and mikey nail it: no matter &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; the PM is, they will have &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; legitimacy so long as US forces are needed to back their play.

Legitimacy-- the ability to make what you say stick-- is the basic currency of governance, and no government that has to use foreign troops to keep order  will ever be seen as legit. That&#039;s why Teh Surge&#8482; isn&#039;t working and could never work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradrocket and mikey nail it: no matter <i>who</i> the PM is, they will have <i>no</i> legitimacy so long as US forces are needed to back their play.</p>
<p>Legitimacy&#8211; the ability to make what you say stick&#8211; is the basic currency of governance, and no government that has to use foreign troops to keep order  will ever be seen as legit. That&#8217;s why Teh Surge&trade; isn&#8217;t working and could never work.</p>
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