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		<title>By: celticgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251194</link>
		<dc:creator>celticgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see J&#039;s comment at 1:02 perfectly fine.  WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see J&#8217;s comment at 1:02 perfectly fine.  WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: RandomObserver</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251154</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Thanks, RandomObserver. How about now?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It looks like your comment was so lame that the internet itself rejected it - that&#039;s really the most likely explanation.

Also blogwhore blah blah blah click my name blogwhore etc etc</description>
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Thanks, RandomObserver. How about now?
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<p>It looks like your comment was so lame that the internet itself rejected it &#8211; that&#8217;s really the most likely explanation.</p>
<p>Also blogwhore blah blah blah click my name blogwhore etc etc</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251147</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey: 

I wrote
&lt;i&gt;No J– at 1:02.&lt;/i&gt;

You wrote
&lt;i&gt;no J— at 1:02&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s no em-dash, it&#039;s an mmmm-dash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey: </p>
<p>I wrote<br />
<i>No J– at 1:02.</i></p>
<p>You wrote<br />
<i>no J— at 1:02</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s no em-dash, it&#8217;s an mmmm-dash.</p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251142</link>
		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Righteous Bubba.  This means no J— at 1:02 for you regardless of whether or not I&#039;m logged on (in case you were interested).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Righteous Bubba.  This means no J— at 1:02 for you regardless of whether or not I&#8217;m logged on (in case you were interested).</p>
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		<title>By: Hoosier X</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251139</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoosier X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charcoal broiled wingnuts.

Yummy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charcoal broiled wingnuts.</p>
<p>Yummy.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251138</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No J-- at 1:02.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No J&#8211; at 1:02.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.BDH</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251137</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.BDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon Stewart just charcoal broiled Stephen Hayes&#039;s nuts (author of &lt;i&gt;Cheney&lt;/i&gt;) by citing the Lord of Darkness&#039;s 1994 words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon Stewart just charcoal broiled Stephen Hayes&#8217;s nuts (author of <i>Cheney</i>) by citing the Lord of Darkness&#8217;s 1994 words.</p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251128</link>
		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, RandomObserver.  How about now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, RandomObserver.  How about now?</p>
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		<title>By: RandomObserver</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251126</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no other comments by &quot;J&quot; in this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no other comments by &#8220;J&#8221; in this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251119</link>
		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you all see my comment at 1:02?  I see it when I&#039;m logged in but it disappears once I log out.  I&#039;m wondering if the amount of code in it (two links, three blockquotes) has put it into some kind of moderation limbo.  I&#039;m asking not because I think my comment is a must read but because this has happened before and I&#039;m wondering how to remedy it.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you all see my comment at 1:02?  I see it when I&#8217;m logged in but it disappears once I log out.  I&#8217;m wondering if the amount of code in it (two links, three blockquotes) has put it into some kind of moderation limbo.  I&#8217;m asking not because I think my comment is a must read but because this has happened before and I&#8217;m wondering how to remedy it.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
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		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Haaave a Fantasy that someday the Iraqi people will see my halo and start behaving!</description>
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		<title>By: Non Nato</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251107</link>
		<dc:creator>Non Nato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq is unstable because the Iraqi government has no legitimacy which is because it has no sovereignty (can&#039;t order its own troops without US approval, no control over the economy as the oil industry has been given away to US corporations and so on). This means that even Iraqis that do not support the resistance have no reason to support the government, because it&#039;s a puppet (if a crappy one) in the hands of the occupying power (the United States of Jerkfaces). If it came down to a Shia government alone that wasn&#039;t caught in the US chokehold, things would be very different. There&#039;d be no Al Queda in Iraq for starters, since they&#039;d no US troops to rally against. There&#039;ll never be such a government in Iraq as long as the US controls things, because such a government would deny the US establishment the things they want - control of the oil fields (hand on the spiggot), military bases from which to terrorize the region and so on. 

As for empires benefiting from their conquests, the oil companies are raking in record profits last I heard; empires tend to benefit those at the top not the industrial workers at the bottom croaking from hideous working conditions as in 19th century Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq is unstable because the Iraqi government has no legitimacy which is because it has no sovereignty (can&#8217;t order its own troops without US approval, no control over the economy as the oil industry has been given away to US corporations and so on). This means that even Iraqis that do not support the resistance have no reason to support the government, because it&#8217;s a puppet (if a crappy one) in the hands of the occupying power (the United States of Jerkfaces). If it came down to a Shia government alone that wasn&#8217;t caught in the US chokehold, things would be very different. There&#8217;d be no Al Queda in Iraq for starters, since they&#8217;d no US troops to rally against. There&#8217;ll never be such a government in Iraq as long as the US controls things, because such a government would deny the US establishment the things they want &#8211; control of the oil fields (hand on the spiggot), military bases from which to terrorize the region and so on. </p>
<p>As for empires benefiting from their conquests, the oil companies are raking in record profits last I heard; empires tend to benefit those at the top not the industrial workers at the bottom croaking from hideous working conditions as in 19th century Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251085</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perhaps the establishment of some functional institutions before simply providing a previously oppressed majority access to the levers of power through a straight majority vote while the gun barrels were still warm would hve been a good idea in hindsight.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, many of the functional institutions were present in Iraq before Sadaam and before our invasion. We dismantled all of them as part of the &quot;de-Baathification&quot; required by the neo-con puppet masters and not recommended by anyone with a fucking clue. 

&lt;i&gt;But since Plan A was the establishment of a US controlled puppet “benign dictatorship” under Chalabi or similar, and THERE WAS NO PLAN B,&lt;/i&gt;

I guess &quot;Plan B&quot; could be &quot;treat Iraq like a sym game where we can totally try out all the rad things we learned at Neocon U last year&quot;. I don&#039;t know if they would have loosed the Inexperienced Horde of Yes-folk on Iraq if their good buddy Chalabi had taken over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps the establishment of some functional institutions before simply providing a previously oppressed majority access to the levers of power through a straight majority vote while the gun barrels were still warm would hve been a good idea in hindsight.</i></p>
<p>Well, many of the functional institutions were present in Iraq before Sadaam and before our invasion. We dismantled all of them as part of the &#8220;de-Baathification&#8221; required by the neo-con puppet masters and not recommended by anyone with a fucking clue. </p>
<p><i>But since Plan A was the establishment of a US controlled puppet “benign dictatorship” under Chalabi or similar, and THERE WAS NO PLAN B,</i></p>
<p>I guess &#8220;Plan B&#8221; could be &#8220;treat Iraq like a sym game where we can totally try out all the rad things we learned at Neocon U last year&#8221;. I don&#8217;t know if they would have loosed the Inexperienced Horde of Yes-folk on Iraq if their good buddy Chalabi had taken over.</p>
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		<title>By: SamFromUtah</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251051</link>
		<dc:creator>SamFromUtah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“We are officially the new British Empire.”
Actually looking more and more like the Roman Empire to me…&lt;/i&gt;

Didn&#039;t those empires turn a profit from their invasions? At least for a while?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“We are officially the new British Empire.”<br />
Actually looking more and more like the Roman Empire to me…</i></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t those empires turn a profit from their invasions? At least for a while?</p>
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		<title>By: Qetesh the Abyssinian</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251050</link>
		<dc:creator>Qetesh the Abyssinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, wankstain, let me introduce you to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Code of Hammurabi&lt;/a&gt;, the earliest written set of laws, committed to stone about 3800 years ago.

Where? &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mesopotamia&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, wankstain, let me introduce you to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi" rel="nofollow">Code of Hammurabi</a>, the earliest written set of laws, committed to stone about 3800 years ago.</p>
<p>Where? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia" rel="nofollow">Mesopotamia</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251042</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Is Rule of Law a Martian concept unsuitable to America?


Answering in the affirmative explicitly consigns a society to whatever is not the rule of law: arbitrary detention and punishment, state (and non-state) actors behaving with impunity, rule by personal or oligarchic caprice (or by war-lords), and constantly shifting &quot;rules of the game.&quot; 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When people write this sort of stuff does it just plain not occur to them to apply those same standards to ourselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Is Rule of Law a Martian concept unsuitable to America?</p>
<p>Answering in the affirmative explicitly consigns a society to whatever is not the rule of law: arbitrary detention and punishment, state (and non-state) actors behaving with impunity, rule by personal or oligarchic caprice (or by war-lords), and constantly shifting &#8220;rules of the game.&#8221;
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<p>When people write this sort of stuff does it just plain not occur to them to apply those same standards to ourselves?</p>
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		<title>By: newone</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251041</link>
		<dc:creator>newone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you&#039;re staying for dinner, watching an idiot attempting to make chicken salad out of chicken shit can be ...interesting? Excuse me, I&#039;ve got to find some mouthwash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you&#8217;re staying for dinner, watching an idiot attempting to make chicken salad out of chicken shit can be &#8230;interesting? Excuse me, I&#8217;ve got to find some mouthwash.</p>
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		<title>By: King George III</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251039</link>
		<dc:creator>King George III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;could make things better by just running the country and letting a sense of law and order take root in the body politic by osmosis over many years&lt;/i&gt;
It was working so well, too, until the Houses of Common turned down my 1775 &quot;Surge&quot; plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>could make things better by just running the country and letting a sense of law and order take root in the body politic by osmosis over many years</i><br />
It was working so well, too, until the Houses of Common turned down my 1775 &#8220;Surge&#8221; plan.</p>
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		<title>By: newone</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251036</link>
		<dc:creator>newone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are officially the new British Empire.&quot;

Actually looking more and more like the Roman Empire to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are officially the new British Empire.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually looking more and more like the Roman Empire to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6790.html#comment-251034</link>
		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Shapiro&#039;s &quot;Is Rule of Law Possible in Iraq?&quot; (8/14/07):
&lt;blockquote&gt;We are assisting the &quot;development&quot; (as in advancement) of their legal system. In doing so, we must be aware that the system must be perceived as locally run and not an extension of American &quot;imperialism.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
From Shapiro&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dispatchesfrompurpleamerica.blogspot.com/2007/08/americas-empire-deficit.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;America&#039;s Empire Deficit&lt;/a&gt;&quot; (8/15/07), a review of Niall Ferguson&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Colossus&lt;/i&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The point is that when America gets involved in overseas adventures -- for whatever reason, from the most realist to the most humanitarian -- it inevitably acts like an empire. The sooner it admits this and takes on the role unapologetically, the greater its success can be.

The question, then, is how to organize the &quot;nation-building&quot; -- or, to avoid using the somewhat loaded word &quot;nation,&quot; the reconstruction/development work.

[…]

The British India Civil Service (ICS) is a good model for what we need, I think -- a civilian body ready to be mobilized as needed, a Peace Corps with teeth that would work in conjunction with the military.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Finally, from Shapiro&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pattonboggs.com/ishapiro/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patton Boggs bio page&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;He also worked on the policy staff of the Bush-Cheney ’04 campaign, where he focused on homeland security, legal affairs, and foreign policy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Shapiro&#8217;s &#8220;Is Rule of Law Possible in Iraq?&#8221; (8/14/07):</p>
<blockquote><p>We are assisting the &#8220;development&#8221; (as in advancement) of their legal system. In doing so, we must be aware that the system must be perceived as locally run and not an extension of American &#8220;imperialism.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>From Shapiro&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://dispatchesfrompurpleamerica.blogspot.com/2007/08/americas-empire-deficit.html" rel="nofollow">America&#8217;s Empire Deficit</a>&#8221; (8/15/07), a review of Niall Ferguson&#8217;s <i>Colossus</i>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The point is that when America gets involved in overseas adventures &#8212; for whatever reason, from the most realist to the most humanitarian &#8212; it inevitably acts like an empire. The sooner it admits this and takes on the role unapologetically, the greater its success can be.</p>
<p>The question, then, is how to organize the &#8220;nation-building&#8221; &#8212; or, to avoid using the somewhat loaded word &#8220;nation,&#8221; the reconstruction/development work.</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>The British India Civil Service (ICS) is a good model for what we need, I think &#8212; a civilian body ready to be mobilized as needed, a Peace Corps with teeth that would work in conjunction with the military.</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, from Shapiro&#8217;s <a href="http://www.pattonboggs.com/ishapiro/" rel="nofollow">Patton Boggs bio page</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>He also worked on the policy staff of the Bush-Cheney ’04 campaign, where he focused on homeland security, legal affairs, and foreign policy.</p></blockquote>
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