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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Whoops! Goes The Malkin</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-610581</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Whoops! Goes The Malkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 05:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] only it were so. The political establishment never let Dan Quayle live down his fateful misspelling of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fumento&#8217;s nemesis: the rake [Deltoid] &#183; New York Articles</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-250662</link>
		<dc:creator>Fumento&#8217;s nemesis: the rake [Deltoid] &#183; New York Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fumento mockery has been outsourced to Gavin M at Sadly, No!. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The New Phone Books Are Here!!! The New Phone Books are Here!!!!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-246634</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The New Phone Books Are Here!!! The New Phone Books are Here!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 05:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fumento mockery has been outsourced to Gavin M at Sadly, No!. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sloppy reporting in the National Geographic on DDT</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-245296</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sloppy reporting in the National Geographic on DDT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fumento mockery has been outsourced to Gavin M at Sadly, No!. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fumento's nemesis: the rake [Deltoid] &#183; Articles</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-240787</link>
		<dc:creator>Fumento's nemesis: the rake [Deltoid] &#183; Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fumento mockery has been outsourced to Gavin M at Sadly, No!. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-238804</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get that Fumento freak some universal mental health coverage stat!</description>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-238801</link>
		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also speaks volumes that you chose to respond at the snark blog rather than at the one referenced.  Go tell Davies how wrong he is and maybe next time we&#039;ll comment on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigfatblog.com/images/fumento.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photos without moustaches&lt;/a&gt; just to make you happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also speaks volumes that you chose to respond at the snark blog rather than at the one referenced.  Go tell Davies how wrong he is and maybe next time we&#8217;ll comment on <a href="http://www.bigfatblog.com/images/fumento.jpg" rel="nofollow">photos without moustaches</a> just to make you happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-238800</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What are they hiding, geniuses?&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously they&#039;re hiding the fact that the Iraq war is going really really well in all areas and was a terrific idea in which all decisions were perfect.</description>
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<p>Obviously they&#8217;re hiding the fact that the Iraq war is going really really well in all areas and was a terrific idea in which all decisions were perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Simba B.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-238799</link>
		<dc:creator>Simba B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But seriously, here&#039;s a little education into the ways of Sadlynosians:

It speaks volumes for this blog and its readers (And I find that insipid bloggers tend to have insipid readers) that most of the comments about my article, which I will be revisiting using the new data, is about . . . my former mustache.

No, we just don&#039;t think you&#039;re worth engaging. You&#039;ll find that people here are quite intelligent (many much more than I). They simply don&#039;t take the likes of you &lt;i&gt;seriously&lt;/i&gt;, and they realize the futility of trying to engage wingnuts like you in serious debate. So, they (to my great mirth) find it more satisfying to mock you&#8212;and for the rest of us reality-based folk, laughing and the catastrofuck created by the right wing gets us through the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But seriously, here&#8217;s a little education into the ways of Sadlynosians:</p>
<p>It speaks volumes for this blog and its readers (And I find that insipid bloggers tend to have insipid readers) that most of the comments about my article, which I will be revisiting using the new data, is about . . . my former mustache.</p>
<p>No, we just don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re worth engaging. You&#8217;ll find that people here are quite intelligent (many much more than I). They simply don&#8217;t take the likes of you <i>seriously</i>, and they realize the futility of trying to engage wingnuts like you in serious debate. So, they (to my great mirth) find it more satisfying to mock you&mdash;and for the rest of us reality-based folk, laughing and the catastrofuck created by the right wing gets us through the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Simba B.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-238796</link>
		<dc:creator>Simba B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It speaks volumes about you that you don&#039;t know the difference between a web site and an e-mail address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It speaks volumes about you that you don&#8217;t know the difference between a web site and an e-mail address.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fumento</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-238795</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Fumento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It speaks volumes for this blog and its readers (And I find that insipid bloggers tend to have insipid readers) that most of the comments about my article, which I will be revisiting using the new data, is about . . . my former mustache. The Kane paper raised no bodies. It made two major salient point. First, once the Fallujah data are included the confidence interval drops to the point where the Lancet data is no longer statistically significant. Second, the Lancet authors refuse to release their dataset to outsiders. That&#039;s just not done. What are they hiding, geniuses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It speaks volumes for this blog and its readers (And I find that insipid bloggers tend to have insipid readers) that most of the comments about my article, which I will be revisiting using the new data, is about . . . my former mustache. The Kane paper raised no bodies. It made two major salient point. First, once the Fallujah data are included the confidence interval drops to the point where the Lancet data is no longer statistically significant. Second, the Lancet authors refuse to release their dataset to outsiders. That&#8217;s just not done. What are they hiding, geniuses?</p>
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		<title>By: Krankor &#187; Piece of crock!</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-237989</link>
		<dc:creator>Krankor &#187; Piece of crock!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been giggling about this for a couple of days. I intend to use each of these, frequently and with great gusto: Not to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lubos Motl vs the logarithm function</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-237557</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lubos Motl vs the logarithm function</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fumento mockery has been outsourced to Gavin M at Sadly, No!. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hoosier X</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-236911</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoosier X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; they’ll just give PhD’s out to anybody these days…&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re talking about Thomas Sowell, aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> they’ll just give PhD’s out to anybody these days…</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re talking about Thomas Sowell, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-236889</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There, y&#039;see?  This is why I love it here.  In my life, real highly educated people won&#039;t let me join in any of their reindeer games.  I get smarter just reading Sadly, No every day...

mikey</description>
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		<title>By: jenniebee</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-236885</link>
		<dc:creator>jenniebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Kane person is teaching at Harvard?  I&#039;m smart enough to see the red gaping hole in his argument.  So why am I not teaching at Harvard?

Geez, they&#039;ll just give PhD&#039;s out to anybody these days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Kane person is teaching at Harvard?  I&#8217;m smart enough to see the red gaping hole in his argument.  So why am I not teaching at Harvard?</p>
<p>Geez, they&#8217;ll just give PhD&#8217;s out to anybody these days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fishbone McGonigle</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-236703</link>
		<dc:creator>Fishbone McGonigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;this cranky comment doesn’t mean you’re compelled to keep silent on matters on which you have no PhD. Merely that if you write an academic paper on matters on which you have no PhD, I’ll be compelled to laugh immoderately at you.&lt;/i&gt;

I have to take issue with this, if only slightly.

It &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; possible, during the course of PhD studies into a given topic, to acquire a certain level of expertise in separate-but-related areas - certainly enough expertise to publish in that related area.

For example, I can totally see how one could acquire a high level of competence in statistics from studying economics, under certain circumstances (full disclosure: I myself have a master&#039;s in the subject, and while I know economists who could probably pull it off, I personally would never dare consider myself qualified to even being writing a pure statistics paper. My PhD work has been in another field entirely).

However, that certainly &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; mean such intellectual cross-training is automatic. From what I do understand about Kane&#039;s paper, it seems like this is an example of a far more common phenomenon - that of talking out of one&#039;s own ass.

So ultimately, your laughter seems justified regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>this cranky comment doesn’t mean you’re compelled to keep silent on matters on which you have no PhD. Merely that if you write an academic paper on matters on which you have no PhD, I’ll be compelled to laugh immoderately at you.</i></p>
<p>I have to take issue with this, if only slightly.</p>
<p>It <i>is</i> possible, during the course of PhD studies into a given topic, to acquire a certain level of expertise in separate-but-related areas &#8211; certainly enough expertise to publish in that related area.</p>
<p>For example, I can totally see how one could acquire a high level of competence in statistics from studying economics, under certain circumstances (full disclosure: I myself have a master&#8217;s in the subject, and while I know economists who could probably pull it off, I personally would never dare consider myself qualified to even being writing a pure statistics paper. My PhD work has been in another field entirely).</p>
<p>However, that certainly <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> mean such intellectual cross-training is automatic. From what I do understand about Kane&#8217;s paper, it seems like this is an example of a far more common phenomenon &#8211; that of talking out of one&#8217;s own ass.</p>
<p>So ultimately, your laughter seems justified regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-236593</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A plethora of assholes got you down? Try sendahole.com.</description>
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		<title>By: Qetesh the Abyssinian</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/6615.html#comment-236550</link>
		<dc:creator>Qetesh the Abyssinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve already mentioned this in the original Sadly thread, but wotthehell, I&#039;m gonna lay it on y&#039;all again. A good whinge is worth repeating.

This Kane did his PhD in political economy, and his degree in philosophy and sturph. Statistician he ain&#039;t.

Now despite being a mathematician, I am also not a statistician. However, &lt;b&gt;the prudent non-statistician bloody well refrains from writing academic bloody articles on topics they&#039;re only vaguely aquainted with&lt;/b&gt;.

I&#039;d imagine that Kane is just as qualified to challenge the original authors&#039; epidemiological qualifications as their statistical ones.

Hmph. 

Oh, and Herr Doktor: this cranky comment doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re compelled to keep silent on matters on which you have no PhD. Merely that if you write an academic paper on matters on which you have no PhD, I&#039;ll be compelled to laugh immoderately at you.

I&#039;m sure I just saw a rodent whizz by. Excuse me all, time for chasin&#039; things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already mentioned this in the original Sadly thread, but wotthehell, I&#8217;m gonna lay it on y&#8217;all again. A good whinge is worth repeating.</p>
<p>This Kane did his PhD in political economy, and his degree in philosophy and sturph. Statistician he ain&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Now despite being a mathematician, I am also not a statistician. However, <b>the prudent non-statistician bloody well refrains from writing academic bloody articles on topics they&#8217;re only vaguely aquainted with</b>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine that Kane is just as qualified to challenge the original authors&#8217; epidemiological qualifications as their statistical ones.</p>
<p>Hmph. </p>
<p>Oh, and Herr Doktor: this cranky comment doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re compelled to keep silent on matters on which you have no PhD. Merely that if you write an academic paper on matters on which you have no PhD, I&#8217;ll be compelled to laugh immoderately at you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I just saw a rodent whizz by. Excuse me all, time for chasin&#8217; things.</p>
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		<title>By: Marq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Fumento?! Hell--what&#039;s &lt;i&gt;he &lt;/i&gt;been smoking?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Fumento?! Hell&#8211;what&#8217;s <i>he </i>been smoking?<br />
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