Damn you people and your hula hoops!

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You kids these days with your Pac-Man video games and your Dan Fogelberg!

I hear ya…. and if this kinda thing was anything more than a game for these fucks (a game with a sweet payday), if they really bought into the crap they spewed, they’d be primed for a full-blown psychotic break soon enough. A multiple personality implosion… like that Sally Field movie from the early 70′s.

But it is just a game to them. And they can churn out one-upsmanshit like that endlessly at the bidding of the biggest checkbook. All spin all the time.

Many of them do, sadly. But the phrasing is key–you’re not a bigot for not allowing them to get their hate on, you are bigoted against “conservative views,” “pro-family views,” etc.

Also, bear in mind that to sad little stooges like Noonan, The Left(tm) is responsible for slavery, racism, and sexism. Basically, he’s going through the little semantic dance he needs to do in order to blame the damn dirty liberals for homophobia as well.

Yes, teh gay is a fad. Like acid washed jeans.

Man-o-man! That’s the nut of Noonan’s rant, and the latest slick move in the perceived “culture war” rhetoric. That flip-flop of logic, had plenty of us scratching our heads. “Do they really mean that we’re the bigots for not allowing them to sufficiently HATE in a sufficiently public manner?,” we’ve often thought lately.

And then, like clockwork, from a TV set across the house we hear, I think, Cleavon Little implore, “can’t you see, it’s the last act of a desperate man?” And we chuckle.

And don’t get me started on the “Bigotry is Tolerance” nonsense.

Jesus, that’s terrible! I can’t imagine what that was like to go through.

I hope your son grows up tall and strong, despite his disadvantages.

And since when is Satan the one who punishes? It’s usually God.

Damn you people and your hula hoops!

One thing that made me leave religion in general and christianity in particular is the huge number of christian people who wall themselves off from everyone else and feel superior because everyone is going to hell but them. Even really nice people who do good things still have this little superiority thing when it comes to their faith. It’s like a high school clique with the promise of an eternal afterlife and ponies…and you can’t have none,so there.

Wonder what Mark would say about”good christian people”who threw their eldest kid out on the street when she was 17? For the crime of not being perfect and obedient to their abusive asshatness(like being the only one in the family not allowed to bathe every day,or being made to eat different food from everyone else,or being screamed at every day) .That 17 yr old kid then spent far to much time over the next 30 yrs trying everything she knew to get back into her family’s good graces only to have the proverbial football yanked away from her over and over again.

The last straw for that kid was growing up,getting married and having a child of her own who turned out to be autistic. A beautiful child,a smart child,who could use close grandparants now that he’s 13 and not quite fitting in among his mostly christian peers. Instead,these fine upstanding christian people told their daughter that her son was punishment from Satan for being who she was. That former 17 yr old kid hasn’t seen or heard from her parents(who live about 30 minutes away)in almost 4 yrs. Which,for the sake of the autistic child, is probably for the best. Oh,and my house is possessed by demons,Mom says if I get rid of all my books,artwork,and assorted “evil”doodads,the demons will leave. Since I won’t do that,she won’t set foot in my house,and neither will the rest of the loon,er I mean,family.

No divisiveness there,nope. And certainly no divisiveness sanctioned by god or this particular church,nah.

And the saddest thing here is that my mother was raised up Catholic and horrifically abused within that religion. So she knew how it felt to be on the recieving end of this madness. After I was born she left the church for good and then became part of this whole evangelical southern baptist megachurch craziness(in our case you can add in Amway to that mess too,whee!) which is such a nightmare I can’t even begin to describe it. She went into “christian therapy”which pretty much destroyed our family,telling her that her children(especially me)were the root of her problems and that unless she got right with God,she could expect not only to burn in hell but to have a miserable life on top of that. Sooo,the solution was to throw me out of the family,but dangle carrots out there for me in hopes I could have some ideal family,get my siblings in on the act and then keep kicking me to the curb and laughing at me behind my back.

Gee,I can’t imagine why I won’t let anyone get within 5 miles of my kid with a Bible….

Trying to speak reason to these people is like having a debate with a closed system.

He appears to believe that the notion that conservatives want to divide people is absurd on its face. And his example of this is… conservatives who want to break up–divide–gay families, and force currently married gay couples to stop being married. To, you know, divide them.

This is like the misdirectedly precious notion that the conservatives are pro-family and that’s why they’re, um, anti-gay-family.

At some point, the rotting corpse of irony reanimates and begins chewing on her own toes. Seriously, wtf? I mean, I know Mark is hard to listen to, but it seems like, if anyone, at least *Mark* should be doing so.

Or we could just forget all that and just hate on the gays…
Yeah…. lets just hate on the gays.

And if I’m not mistaken Reba (and it’s been quite some time since I was in a church to find out), don’t all forms of Christianity assume as a fact of doctrine that every other Christian not in their specific sect is going to Hell? The Catholics figure the Lutherans are in for it, the Lutherans figure the Calvinists are fucked, the Calvinists figure the Southern Baptists are screwed, the Southern Baptists think the Unitarians are up the creek, the Unitarians don’t give a crap one way or the other, and nobody likes the Mormons at all.

Frankly, with all the divisions, “you guys are losers, we’re the winners!” seems to be the only thing any Christian can agree on.