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		<title>By: elendil</title>
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		<dc:creator>elendil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noy jitat! That should read 
mplayer &quot;mms://...&quot; etc. And sorry about messing up the comments-section aesthetics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noy jitat! That should read<br />
mplayer &#8220;mms://&#8230;&#8221; etc. And sorry about messing up the comments-section aesthetics.</p>
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		<title>By: elendil</title>
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		<dc:creator>elendil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrr, C&amp;L don&#039;t have the whole thing, matey! Torrent link: http://www.chomskytorrents.org/DownloadTorrent.php?TorrentID=4315
(Currently has 1 seed.)

If you&#039;ve got mplayer, you can dump it to your hd with the following:
&quot;mms://wm.z1.mii-streaming.net/media/pbs/windows/general/windows/wnet/moyers/journal/btw/BTW_part1_480.wmv?v1st=5A54C435CFC5C593&quot; -dumpstream -dumpfile moyers1.wmv
(change &quot;part1&quot; to &quot;part2&quot;, &quot;part3&quot;, etc to get all 5 chapters)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrr, C&amp;L don&#8217;t have the whole thing, matey! Torrent link: <a href="http://www.chomskytorrents.org/DownloadTorrent.php?TorrentID=4315" rel="nofollow">http://www.chomskytorrents.org/DownloadTorrent.php?TorrentID=4315</a><br />
(Currently has 1 seed.)</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got mplayer, you can dump it to your hd with the following:<br />
&#8220;mms://wm.z1.mii-streaming.net/media/pbs/windows/general/windows/wnet/moyers/journal/btw/BTW_part1_480.wmv?v1st=5A54C435CFC5C593&#8243; -dumpstream -dumpfile moyers1.wmv<br />
(change &#8220;part1&#8243; to &#8220;part2&#8243;, &#8220;part3&#8243;, etc to get all 5 chapters)</p>
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		<title>By: D. Aristophanes</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188838</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Aristophanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy to pass on the links. Moyers rox. Weird to see so much of what we&#039;ve monitored in drips and drabs, presented historically and big-picturishly as in this documentary. Viva la epic!

And it was history, the way the Beinarts lubed the way for the Cheneys and Chalabis to market such a monumentally evil adventure that has caused so much harm to the thems and uses and y&#039;alls and future thems and uses and y&#039;alls of the world.

If you&#039;re old, hang your head ... if you&#039;re young, never fear, it&#039;ll all happen againin 20 years time.

We fucking suck. Our only saving grace is that occasionally we recognize that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to pass on the links. Moyers rox. Weird to see so much of what we&#8217;ve monitored in drips and drabs, presented historically and big-picturishly as in this documentary. Viva la epic!</p>
<p>And it was history, the way the Beinarts lubed the way for the Cheneys and Chalabis to market such a monumentally evil adventure that has caused so much harm to the thems and uses and y&#8217;alls and future thems and uses and y&#8217;alls of the world.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re old, hang your head &#8230; if you&#8217;re young, never fear, it&#8217;ll all happen againin 20 years time.</p>
<p>We fucking suck. Our only saving grace is that occasionally we recognize that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: WeikuBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188830</link>
		<dc:creator>WeikuBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 05:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETER BEINART: But can one really say that life for Iraqis is better today?

WeikuBoy: When one refers to Iraqis today, is one referring only to the survivors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETER BEINART: But can one really say that life for Iraqis is better today?</p>
<p>WeikuBoy: When one refers to Iraqis today, is one referring only to the survivors?</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188786</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;DA, thank you ever so much for the links. &lt;/i&gt;

Yes indeed.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve pestered my friends with an e-mailed link for a couple of years now, but this was pretty amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>DA, thank you ever so much for the links. </i></p>
<p>Yes indeed.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve pestered my friends with an e-mailed link for a couple of years now, but this was pretty amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: CauseDisturbance</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188747</link>
		<dc:creator>CauseDisturbance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I&#039;d like to see Beinart come back from patrol in Fallujah only to get fragged by the other guys in his platoon.  Then, unrecognizably disfigured from the grenade blast, be mistakenly imprisoned in Abu Ghraib where he gets waterboarded and then assraped by an Iraqi guard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I&#8217;d like to see Beinart come back from patrol in Fallujah only to get fragged by the other guys in his platoon.  Then, unrecognizably disfigured from the grenade blast, be mistakenly imprisoned in Abu Ghraib where he gets waterboarded and then assraped by an Iraqi guard.</p>
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		<title>By: Smiling Mortician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smiling Mortician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DA, thank you ever so much for the links. The Moyers program is the first time I&#039;ve watched a solid hour of TV in more than 15 years. It was well worth it. The man is a national treasure -- if only I had any reason to believe that his work would be seen by anywhere near enough people to have a real effect . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DA, thank you ever so much for the links. The Moyers program is the first time I&#8217;ve watched a solid hour of TV in more than 15 years. It was well worth it. The man is a national treasure &#8212; if only I had any reason to believe that his work would be seen by anywhere near enough people to have a real effect . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Neo-Con casualty estimates: Three skinned knees, twelve booboos on elbows,&lt;/i&gt;
There are bonobos in Iraq?!
-- Feck, I need new glasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Neo-Con casualty estimates: Three skinned knees, twelve booboos on elbows,</i><br />
There are bonobos in Iraq?!<br />
&#8211; Feck, I need new glasses.</p>
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		<title>By: Jâ€”</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jâ€”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a novel idea:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;JOHN WALCOTT&lt;/b&gt; [Knight Ridder DC bureau chief]: Our readers aren&#039;t here in Washington. They aren&#039;t up in New York. They aren&#039;t the people who send other people&#039;s kids to war. They&#039;re the people who get sent to war.

And we felt an obligation to them, to explain why that might happen. We were determined to scrutinize the administration&#039;s case for war as closely as we possibly could. And that&#039;s what we set out to do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
One might call this supporting the troops.

Here&#039;s an odd one:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;WARREN STROBEL&lt;/b&gt; [Knight Ridder DC reporter]: The first rule of being an intelligence agent, or a journalist, and they&#039;re really not that different, is you&#039;re skeptical of defectors, because they have a reason to exaggerate. They want to increase their value to you. They probably want something from you. Doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re lying, but you should be -- journalists are supposed to be skeptical, right? And I&#039;m-afraid the NEW YORK TIMES reporter in that case and a lot of other reporters were just not skeptical of what these defectors were saying. Nor was the administration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Journalistic skepticism?  That&#039;s so old school!

The Crooks &amp; Liars video shows the first exchange between Moyers and Beinart.  There&#039;s a second near the end of the program:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;PETER BEINART&lt;/b&gt;: Where I think I was tragically wrong was not to see in February, March 2003 after we got the inspectors back in on the ground and we began to learn much more about what had been going on in Iraq than we had known in 2002 when we had no one on the ground that that assumption was being proven wrong.

&lt;b&gt;BILL MOYERS&lt;/b&gt;: You say tragically wrong.

&lt;b&gt;PETER BEINART&lt;/b&gt;: Because I think the war has been a tragic disaster. I mean-- the Americans killed, the Iraqis killed. It&#039;s true, life under Saddam was hell. But can one really say that life for Iraqis is better today?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
All three quotes from the PBS &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/transcript1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;transcript&lt;/a&gt; of &quot;Buying the War.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a novel idea:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>JOHN WALCOTT</b> [Knight Ridder DC bureau chief]: Our readers aren&#8217;t here in Washington. They aren&#8217;t up in New York. They aren&#8217;t the people who send other people&#8217;s kids to war. They&#8217;re the people who get sent to war.</p>
<p>And we felt an obligation to them, to explain why that might happen. We were determined to scrutinize the administration&#8217;s case for war as closely as we possibly could. And that&#8217;s what we set out to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>One might call this supporting the troops.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an odd one:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>WARREN STROBEL</b> [Knight Ridder DC reporter]: The first rule of being an intelligence agent, or a journalist, and they&#8217;re really not that different, is you&#8217;re skeptical of defectors, because they have a reason to exaggerate. They want to increase their value to you. They probably want something from you. Doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re lying, but you should be &#8212; journalists are supposed to be skeptical, right? And I&#8217;m-afraid the NEW YORK TIMES reporter in that case and a lot of other reporters were just not skeptical of what these defectors were saying. Nor was the administration.</p></blockquote>
<p>Journalistic skepticism?  That&#8217;s so old school!</p>
<p>The Crooks &amp; Liars video shows the first exchange between Moyers and Beinart.  There&#8217;s a second near the end of the program:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>PETER BEINART</b>: Where I think I was tragically wrong was not to see in February, March 2003 after we got the inspectors back in on the ground and we began to learn much more about what had been going on in Iraq than we had known in 2002 when we had no one on the ground that that assumption was being proven wrong.</p>
<p><b>BILL MOYERS</b>: You say tragically wrong.</p>
<p><b>PETER BEINART</b>: Because I think the war has been a tragic disaster. I mean&#8211; the Americans killed, the Iraqis killed. It&#8217;s true, life under Saddam was hell. But can one really say that life for Iraqis is better today?</p></blockquote>
<p>All three quotes from the PBS <a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/transcript1.html" rel="nofollow">transcript</a> of &#8220;Buying the War.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188719</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;One question: Does he get to use a bucket for the ball-sweat collection, or does he have to use his mouth?&lt;/i&gt;

A swab and a bucket.  Part of the penance is that Beinhart will never, never, ever be permitted to open his mouth again.  I&#039;d suggest he cut off his typing fingers as well, but future generations would be negatively impacted if B. were to need an alternative to playing with himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One question: Does he get to use a bucket for the ball-sweat collection, or does he have to use his mouth?</i></p>
<p>A swab and a bucket.  Part of the penance is that Beinhart will never, never, ever be permitted to open his mouth again.  I&#8217;d suggest he cut off his typing fingers as well, but future generations would be negatively impacted if B. were to need an alternative to playing with himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Brando</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188707</link>
		<dc:creator>Brando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question: Does he get to use a bucket for the ball-sweat collection, or does he have to use his mouth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question: Does he get to use a bucket for the ball-sweat collection, or does he have to use his mouth?</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188690</link>
		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh nurtz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh nurtz</p>
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		<title>By: Hand Stocking</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188688</link>
		<dc:creator>Hand Stocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You are giving this Beinhart guy way too much serious analysis. Canâ€™t we just put his picture up and say whether we would do him or not? I think heâ€™s kind of cute.&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s not bad looking if he keeps his mouth shut, otherwise it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Big Book of British Smiles&lt;/i&gt;, &quot;Mind the Gap&quot; chapter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You are giving this Beinhart guy way too much serious analysis. Canâ€™t we just put his picture up and say whether we would do him or not? I think heâ€™s kind of cute.</i></p>
<p>He&#8217;s not bad looking if he keeps his mouth shut, otherwise it&#8217;s <i>The Big Book of British Smiles</i>, &#8220;Mind the Gap&#8221; chapter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Althouse's Right Breast</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188684</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Althouse's Right Breast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Charlieâ€™s angels?&lt;/i&gt;

Now that you mention it, he does bear a striking (dare I say, &lt;i&gt;eerie&lt;/i&gt;?) resemblance to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Jackson&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bri&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;i&gt;smart one!&lt;/i&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Charlieâ€™s angels?</i></p>
<p>Now that you mention it, he does bear a striking (dare I say, <i>eerie</i>?) resemblance to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Jackson" rel="nofollow">Bri</a>, the <i>smart one!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Karl Rove II</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188683</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Rove II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen said,
April 27, 2007 at 19:50 

Oh don&#039;t worry, that&#039;s just Mr Hyde peeking out from behind the freezer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen said,<br />
April 27, 2007 at 19:50 </p>
<p>Oh don&#8217;t worry, that&#8217;s just Mr Hyde peeking out from behind the freezer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Althouse's Right Breast</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188682</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Althouse's Right Breast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear robert green,

My &lt;i&gt;Left Breast&lt;/i&gt; is for loading &amp; unloading only!

Sincerely,

AA&#039;sRB
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear robert green,</p>
<p>My <i>Left Breast</i> is for loading &amp; unloading only!</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>AA&#8217;sRB</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188673</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm. at the risk of being a &quot;funny arbiter&quot;: kicked in the balls - funny; suicide - not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm. at the risk of being a &#8220;funny arbiter&#8221;: kicked in the balls &#8211; funny; suicide &#8211; not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Rove II</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188669</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Rove II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One comment, there should be a (sound of Beinhart being kicked repeatedly in the balls) after &#039;The End&#039;.

...that or the sound of him swinging at the end of his suicide noose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One comment, there should be a (sound of Beinhart being kicked repeatedly in the balls) after &#8216;The End&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8230;that or the sound of him swinging at the end of his suicide noose.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188668</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your suggestion ITTDGY.  I was thinking one of Ace&#039;s crossed swords should be a strip of bacon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your suggestion ITTDGY.  I was thinking one of Ace&#8217;s crossed swords should be a strip of bacon.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthethunderdontgetyaâ„¢Â³Â²Â®Â©</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5715.html#comment-188661</link>
		<dc:creator>ifthethunderdontgetyaâ„¢Â³Â²Â®Â©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of impartial arbiters, isn&#039;t it time to update Ace&#039;s totally awesome logo (that would be the one Sadly, No! made for him)?

I&#039;m thinking of something along the lines of

&lt;b&gt;Ace of Spades HQ: Now 50% Less Ghey!1one!!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of impartial arbiters, isn&#8217;t it time to update Ace&#8217;s totally awesome logo (that would be the one Sadly, No! made for him)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of something along the lines of</p>
<p><b>Ace of Spades HQ: Now 50% Less Ghey!1one!!</b></p>
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