Comments on: Intellectual Depravity

By: Larry

Larry — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:19:18 +0000

Probably not enough to revive this thread, but related anyway.

Quote:

Students wrested a gun away from a University of Southern California student who had been asked to leave an off-campus party after threatening a young woman, police said Tuesday. Zao Xing Yang, 19, was arrested early Sunday and is being held without bail, Chief William Bratton said at a news conference.

Some students at the party, held at a student’s home, overheard Yang making intimidating statements to the woman and threatening her with violence about 3 a.m. Sunday, Bratton said.

Yang began arguing with the host, who noticed Yang was holding a gun, he said.

“Several students wrestled the gun away from Yang and held him until campus security and then LAPD officers arrived,” Bratton said.

By: Moxie

Moxie — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 03:49:09 +0000

No, he’s veddy English, and a lover of all things Brit. Most especially the British Empire.

By: cucaracha

cucaracha — Sun, 22 Apr 2007 00:39:16 +0000

Is that prick Derbyshire an Australian? I’m so sorry.

By: Batocchio

Batocchio — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:55:26 +0000

Thanks for a valuable (and disturbing) round-up.

What depresses me about this isnâ€™t that these people have such terrible opinions. What depresses me is that they are paid money to express them.

Yeah… As I commented on another blog, the conservative movement benefits from promoting stupid and disingenuous people. The country does not. Funny, that.

By: g

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:43:48 +0000

I hope at least a few were rising and in the act of trying to fight back or shielding their neighbors. If so, thank god for their humanity.

Larry, what a prime fucking asshole you are to bestow “humanity” selectively to those you think deserve it.

All the victims embodied humanity, even the ones who were dozing with their IPod earbuds in their ears. Even the ones who didn’t have a clue what was happening. Even the ones who might have gotten shot while running for cover. Even the ones who died frightened.

By: Ron

Ron — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:39:25 +0000

Those weenies should have used their bibles to protect them.

By: Moxie

Moxie — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:51:46 +0000

You know, you liberal pansies have John Derbyshire all wrong. I'll have you know that the Derb is a man of the world. A real man. Just like Larry, he's been places that would fill your pants (and shoes, probably). Here he is mixing it up with the late, great Bruce Lee [he's hard to miss, even though a lot younger and with long, dirty hippy hair. Check out the (rather unforgettable) expression on his face]: Enter the Dragon 1 So, how many of you tofu eaters have faced down somebody like Bruce? I mean, yeah, sure, four or five of his buddies got his back, but I'm sure Big John could have handled the situation just fine all by his lonesome. What about you? Yeah, you, I'm talkin' to you! Come get some, wimp! Here's more of the Derb in action: Enter the Dragon II Oh. Well, he didn't do so well there, getting kicked over the chair like that. But I'm sure you lib wusses could have done better, right? I'm sure he got right back up and gave 'ol Brucie what for. He's just too modest to put that particular clip up on the web, and all. So don't tell me my man Derb would have wimped out in the face of a crazed gunman. No effing way. And don't make me come back here again to straighten your asses out. Remember, I'm a tough guy, just like Larry and my man Derb. And us real men don't take shit from nobody. Except Mark Steyn, of course. *Snark field generator deactivated* Yeah, it really is him. He writes about it here, in the inimitable (that is to say, interminable) Derb prose style. After his little dissertation on bravery the other day, I thought that those clips would be flying all over the web by now, but they weren't even on YouTube. By the way, if I screwed up the links to the clips (PREVIEW BUTTON!), go here

By: secularhuman

secularhuman — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:42:20 +0000

Larry’s allusions to United 93 not only are odious in that they insult the hundreds of students and faculty for the wholly understandable desire to save their own lives, they are insipid and fallacious as well.
1) The passengers aboard United 93 had full cognizance of their attackers from the moment the attack began and thus had time to observe their attackers’ behavior and respond to it coherently. Cho went from room to room and only when he was at a particular room did anyone have an idea what they were up against. We already know of a number of acts of individual heroism which in themselves render Larry’s slanders ridiculous. We will doubtless hear of more as time goes by and a full reconstruction of the events is accomplished.
2) United 93 passengers were in a confined space with the attackers, which gave them tactical options once their counterattack began. This was patently not the case at Virginia Tech.
3) They were not facing a fusillade of fire, as the death of individuals was not on the minds of the 9/11 attackers. Damage to the plane was also not an option for the hijackers. Their relationship to the passengers was subsidiary to their desire to use the plane itself to inflict a great deal more pain and suffering through an attack on, most likely, the White House. Cho’s intent was to kill as many students and faculty as quickly as he could. He had no subsidiary intent.
3) Watch the excellent movie “United 93,” reread the literature and reports about United 93 passengers and you will see they had time to conspire, to work up a plan, to assign roles in the plan and to execute the plan. Only a simple-minded ass could imagine that Virginia Tech students and faculty had more than seconds to react to Cho’s roving assault, let alone find the time to conspire to make a plan, assign roles and execute a plan.
4) In all probability, United 93 passengers were able to deduce that the chief imminent threat against them as a whole — detonation of a bomb attached to one of the hijackers — was itself a hollow threat, a fake. Therefore, their counterattack — a hugely heroic act by any measure — could be seen to have an honest chance and no doubt buoyed their courage enough to give it a try. The only thing hollow in Cho’s attack was the hollow-point bullets he used.

By: ara

ara — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:33:09 +0000

Cal Thomas said in an op-ed that if just one student had brought a gun to class…. I thought, “Well, one student did. Purchased legally even.”

I mean, really, Cal, do you want your 20-year-old daughter going to a college where students are encouraged to carry guns????

And I guess it never occurs to these guys that if a bunch of students were actually carrying guns, there would have probably been plenty of shootings earlier– the kid who gets p-o’ed about something at the bursar’s office decides to shoot the clerk… and just imagine how many of those pistol-packing students would be driven crazy by registration.

What’s clear is none of these people calling for students to be armed actually teach or work at a university. Trust me, professors do not want to face a room full of students and hand back their failing exams and wonder which are carrying a gun “for self-defense”.

By: r@d@r

r@d@r — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:22:38 +0000

How could you possibly miss Alex Jones?

He thinks its a government black-op:

sadly, so does the frequently readable kurt nimmo.

By: r@d@r

r@d@r — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:18:38 +0000

Yes, but supposedly on our side, Feministe, Broadsheet, and NTodd are saying it happened because men hate women.

mmmmm…..not so much, spanky.

By: Mona

Mona — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:27:00 +0000

Everything The Hon. Dr. St. Rev. Bradley S. Rocket, Esq, PhD, MD said, in his post and in comments.

By: mikey

mikey — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:09:47 +0000

One night in June of 1970 they asked (asked. Hah) my understrength company to hold a perimeter against an NVA regiment. They hit up and down the line all night. We held against three different attacks, doing hand-to-hand in the dark under Illum rounds with arty falling danger close. We had all kinds of fucking guns. That was close to 40 years ago, and it still wakes me up in sweat. All I wanted, all I ever fucking wanted, was to run. But my friends, hell, people I didn’t even like but were in my unit were in holes on both sides. And those little brown fuckers kept coming. I shot them, I stabbed them, I blew them up, hell, I strangled one with my hands and shot two with my pistol.

One night. One clear night in asia. I’ve never been the same. My world changed. I sat in the red dirt and cried that morning. Let’s not go into any details, but they gave me some bling for that night. Fuckers. They can shove it up their ass.

Larry. You can take your ROE bullshit and shove it up your ass. People aren’t built for this shit. I don’t know what you’d do, or what I’d do. I do know this. In combat, I had lots of chances to sacrifice my life for my fellows. I chose not to. Oh, I risked it a few times, but I wouldn’t spend it for my brothers. No hopping on a ChiCom for this grunt.

I killed some people and I still see their faces. I lost some friends and, yep, I still see their faces. You don’t sound like somebody who has learned a great deal. You say you’ve seen combat, but you seem oddly enamored of warfare. Maybe you’re just a better man than I am. But let me say this to you, youngster. Fuck You…

mikey

By: Doodle Bean

Doodle Bean — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:18:38 +0000

St. Brad*,

You have an Invisible Man guy? You’re lucky! On the Orange Line out of Sullivan Square most evenings I get Smoker-With-Invisible-Cell-Phone Guy.

He even ‘hangs up’ on the people at whom he’s yelling into his hand. Tonight, he was quite considerate and had pinched the end of his cigarette to extinguish it — and save the remaining tobacco — instead of actually smoking it inside the car. Nice.

* I guess you didn’t get your sainthood for patience, eh?

By: firstandlast

firstandlast — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:59:43 +0000

Here’s what I can’t figure out about these “tough guy conservatives.” They run their mouths about how people should react with violence, but I have many first hand experiences where physically confronting them will cause them to sic the cops on you.

Also, when people of color use physical force to get their points across, these tough guy conservatives start howling and whining about us being thugs and animals.

By: QrazyQat

QrazyQat — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:48:39 +0000

Meanwhile in Japan, two passersby disarmed a pistol-armed gangster after he shot the Nagasaki mayor

It was two police officers.

And at VT, there were at least two people who tried to stop the shooter, or hold him back until others could get away — they were shot for their courage.

By: anon

anon — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:41:05 +0000

So, I do think it is a natural human activity to seek out reasons why some other person’s actions were wrong and not “what you would have done”tm.

I also think that depending on the circumstances it’s really takes an asshole to do that anywhere else than in a bar, or around a water cooler.

If the people in the classrooms had known ahead of time there was just one shooter and had time for a vote I think they would have taken other actions.

However what they knew was there was gunfire and that was about it.

I can’t fault their actions.

I will say I do believe the Holocaust survivor’s death saved other lives, apparently he gave other people time to jump out a window and supposedly his fallen body blocked the door.

In light of Kurt Vonnegut’s death, I think what happened at VT was bad chemicals. I don’t think it was atheism or grade inflation or lack of guns and unlike ntodd and many feminists, I don’t think it was because men hate women.

By: getalife

getalife — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:05:03 +0000

Well, John Amato called that wanker Derbyshit a coward.

He is a much better man than I am because I would call them much worse.

These pussies are scared of their own shadow.

Just dress like a Muslim and cover your face like the thugs that hung Saddam and watch those pussies run for their ignorant ,hate filled, pathetic lives.

By: Doug H.

Doug H. — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:32:25 +0000

What the hell.

The hell, Rev, is that they’re no longer trying to talk to the public at large anymore. Nope, that bus up and left after George Bush shredded Reagan’s legacy like John Major shredded Iron Maggie’s. Americans just aren’t buying the bull#### anymore.

So, no, they’re not talking to us, or Joe Average anymore, they’re marketing towards readers like REMF Larry the Internet Tough Guy. The debased base is all they’ve got left, and that’s all who they’ll talk to these days.

By: D. Aristophanes

D. Aristophanes — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:11:47 +0000

Jay B., tigrismus, et.al. – you are wrong and Larry is right.

As a parent concerned for the health and security of my two boys, I will no longer be wasting my time with things like balanced meals and taking them to the park. Instead, we will spend several hours a day in simulated shooting spree dramas to prepare them for heroic martyrdom should they ever find ourselves in such a situation.

Also, we are stocking up on several tons of sunblock to help us survive a freak supernova in our solar system.