Comments on: Blame it on the Wookiee http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html Poise! Poise! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:17:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kobie http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-2#comment-134050 Kobie Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:34:54 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-134050 He did it all for the wookiee. He did it all for the wookiee.

]]> By: eRobin http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-2#comment-133828 eRobin Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:37:22 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-133828 There's too much crying in public in general these days. I blame it all on retiring sports figures, who initally made it okay to blubber in a public forum that should demand stoicism. We've got BushCo admitting to weeping with dead soldiers' families and his asshole father weeping in public over attacks on his idiot son. Next we'll have a president crying over the trade gap. Bah. There’s too much crying in public in general these days. I blame it all on retiring sports figures, who initally made it okay to blubber in a public forum that should demand stoicism. We’ve got BushCo admitting to weeping with dead soldiers’ families and his asshole father weeping in public over attacks on his idiot son. Next we’ll have a president crying over the trade gap. Bah.

]]> By: Dick Cheney http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-133151 Dick Cheney Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:53:28 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-133151 <i>I suppose it was more substantial than Wells' original idea: silently holding up a placard to the jury that reads "Cheney knows where you live‚ written in chicken blood.</i> Well, you're dead wrong there mister. If the defense team <i> had taken</i> my advice about taking our fight to our enemies in the jury box . . . well let me just say, it would have been a hell of a lot more effective than this 'women and children' pabulum. You're outta line!!11!. I suppose it was more substantial than Wells’ original idea: silently holding up a placard to the jury that reads “Cheney knows where you live‚ written in chicken blood.

Well, you’re dead wrong there mister. If the defense team had taken my advice about taking our fight to our enemies in the jury box . . . well let me just say, it would have been a hell of a lot more effective than this ‘women and children’ pabulum.

You’re outta line!!11!.

]]> By: billy pilgrim http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-133029 billy pilgrim Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:12:19 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-133029 Karl, I thought that was a weekly occurrence when he was working. You're a legend, man. Karl, I thought that was a weekly occurrence when he was working.

You’re a legend, man.

]]> By: Karl Rove II http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132992 Karl Rove II Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:43:11 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132992 I'll cry, but only if I get to sodomize him (Libby) with a three foot strap-on. I’ll cry, but only if I get to sodomize him (Libby) with a three foot strap-on.

]]> By: BigHank53 http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132988 BigHank53 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:30:28 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132988 The appeals process will be dragged out over the next year and a half. Even if they can't get a conviction overturned outright, the delays, continuations, appeals, and depositions will push things back so that Scooter doesn't have to sit in jail for more than a couple months before his January 20th, 2009 pardon. The appeals process will be dragged out over the next year and a half. Even if they can’t get a conviction overturned outright, the delays, continuations, appeals, and depositions will push things back so that Scooter doesn’t have to sit in jail for more than a couple months before his January 20th, 2009 pardon.

]]> By: billy pilgrim http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132954 billy pilgrim Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:02:51 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132954 Apparently it is Wells' shtick. Although in this case, he was put on the defensive by the Prosecution summation, and didn't have the time to work up his more typical froth of outrage, which puts the weeping more in context- rage at the injustice done to "this fine man' and weeping at the possibility that he may have to suffer for something that can't possibly be a crime. But his acting was rushed and forced, so it just seemed more of a farce. He also pissed off his co-counsel by taking some time away from him. And then Fitz opened, mocking him by shouting "Madness! Madness! Madness!" but otherwise going into a terse, controlled rebuttal, fueled by apparent, and real, anger at the way Libby and his team has been trying to game the justice system. The appearance of this very real anger after the trumped up version Wells played would certainly be very apparent to most of the jury. Apparently it is Wells’ shtick. Although in this case, he was put on the defensive by the Prosecution summation, and didn’t have the time to work up his more typical froth of outrage, which puts the weeping more in context- rage at the injustice done to “this fine man’ and weeping at the possibility that he may have to suffer for something that can’t possibly be a crime.

But his acting was rushed and forced, so it just seemed more of a farce. He also pissed off his co-counsel by taking some time away from him.

And then Fitz opened, mocking him by shouting “Madness! Madness! Madness!” but otherwise going into a terse, controlled rebuttal, fueled by apparent, and real, anger at the way Libby and his team has been trying to game the justice system. The appearance of this very real anger after the trumped up version Wells played would certainly be very apparent to most of the jury.

]]> By: merlallen http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132931 merlallen Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:05:41 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132931 If I had been in the courtroom when the wuss started crying I would have laughed so loud that a mistrial would have been declared. Do you think that was the plan? If I had been in the courtroom when the wuss started crying I would have laughed so loud that a mistrial would have been declared. Do you think that was the plan?

]]> By: Anne Laurie http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132897 Anne Laurie Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:56:16 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132897 <i>Serioulsy, how f-ed up does your case have to be to reduce your defense attorney to tears?</i> And when Scooter realizes what a fine calibre of legal work the eight million bucks he collected from his Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzer buddies has bought him... do we get to see <i>Irving</i> break down in tears, also? Serioulsy, how f-ed up does your case have to be to reduce your defense attorney to tears?

And when Scooter realizes what a fine calibre of legal work the eight million bucks he collected from his Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzer buddies has bought him… do we get to see Irving break down in tears, also?

]]> By: billy pilgrim http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132752 billy pilgrim Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:55:43 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132752 Yeah, I think you've got the basic dynamic mikey. I think Bush and Cheney are evil enough that they wouldn't particularly care if Libby went to jail for them; but they've gotta know that if he can count on a pardon, he might keep his trap shut. Makes you wonder what might happen to him after, if he did turn. Yeah, I think you’ve got the basic dynamic mikey.

I think Bush and Cheney are evil enough that they wouldn’t particularly care if Libby went to jail for them; but they’ve gotta know that if he can count on a pardon, he might keep his trap shut.

Makes you wonder what might happen to him after, if he did turn.

]]> By: mdhatter http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132744 mdhatter Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:29:44 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132744 700 an hour will buy a lot of Visene 700 an hour will buy a lot of Visene

]]> By: mikey http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132743 mikey Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:28:43 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132743 Dude just turned 56 in august. I submit you lose your idealogue "take one for the team" hormones in your thirties. He's got money, a family, an AWESOME book deal. Why, he'll be asked over and over, should he suffer when EVERY FUCKING BODY ELSE is walking out clean? He'll roll. If he doesn't, I think it means he's got a GOJF Card.... mikey Dude just turned 56 in august. I submit you lose your idealogue “take one for the team” hormones in your thirties. He’s got money, a family, an AWESOME book deal. Why, he’ll be asked over and over, should he suffer when EVERY FUCKING BODY ELSE is walking out clean? He’ll roll. If he doesn’t, I think it means he’s got a GOJF Card….

mikey

]]> By: billy pilgrim http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132741 billy pilgrim Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:19:22 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132741 <i>We’re going to get a full-on guilty-on-all-counts verdict. Then we’ll learn something very important. Scooter will give up Cheney and Rove to get a suspended or seriously reduced sentence, or he will absorb the sentence knowing a pardon is coming, maybe not right away, but at least after the ‘08 election. And the groovy thing is, we’ll know right away if the fix is in. I do NOT believe this cat will give ten years of his life at this point if he had an option. There are true believers, but that’s crazy….</i> That's how Fitz did the Gambinos. Flipped a couple of the lower thugs, and worked his way up. That's what I've been holding out for, since the original GJ indictments focused on Scooter. Libby can turn on Rove and/or Cheney. But I dunno, Cheney would make me freak the F out. If he told me he'd EAT my children, I wouldn't rule it out. We’re going to get a full-on guilty-on-all-counts verdict. Then we’ll learn something very important. Scooter will give up Cheney and Rove to get a suspended or seriously reduced sentence, or he will absorb the sentence knowing a pardon is coming, maybe not right away, but at least after the ‘08 election. And the groovy thing is, we’ll know right away if the fix is in. I do NOT believe this cat will give ten years of his life at this point if he had an option. There are true believers, but that’s crazy….

That’s how Fitz did the Gambinos. Flipped a couple of the lower thugs, and worked his way up.

That’s what I’ve been holding out for, since the original GJ indictments focused on Scooter. Libby can turn on Rove and/or Cheney.

But I dunno, Cheney would make me freak the F out. If he told me he’d EAT my children, I wouldn’t rule it out.

]]> By: billy pilgrim http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132740 billy pilgrim Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:15:17 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132740 I've been a juror- I'd like to think that the whole shtick would be transparent. After all, you're supposed to decide on the basis of the evidence, not the histrionics of the counsel. btw, I read at FDL that the WATB Wells bills at $700 an hour. I'd guess the weeping is an extra service. I’ve been a juror- I’d like to think that the whole shtick would be transparent.

After all, you’re supposed to decide on the basis of the evidence, not the histrionics of the counsel.

btw, I read at FDL that the WATB Wells bills at $700 an hour. I’d guess the weeping is an extra service.

]]> By: mikey http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132739 mikey Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:14:18 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132739 We're going to get a full-on guilty-on-all-counts verdict. Then we'll learn something very important. Scooter will give up Cheney and Rove to get a suspended or seriously reduced sentence, or he will absorb the sentence knowing a pardon is coming, maybe not right away, but at least after the '08 election. And the groovy thing is, we'll know right away if the fix is in. I do NOT believe this cat will give ten years of his life at this point if he had an option. There are true believers, but that's crazy.... mikey We’re going to get a full-on guilty-on-all-counts verdict. Then we’ll learn something very important. Scooter will give up Cheney and Rove to get a suspended or seriously reduced sentence, or he will absorb the sentence knowing a pardon is coming, maybe not right away, but at least after the ‘08 election. And the groovy thing is, we’ll know right away if the fix is in. I do NOT believe this cat will give ten years of his life at this point if he had an option. There are true believers, but that’s crazy….

mikey

]]> By: CaseyL http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132734 CaseyL Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:06:04 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132734 Yes, but they're generally procedural, not factual (i.e., no new evidence can be introduced at an appeal, though a claim that evidence was suppressed can be, and the court might then remand the case back to trial.) Procedural grounds do not, SFAIK, include "my attorney cried," unless they're going for an appeal on the grounds of incompetent defense by reason of mental disability. But with Wells' reputation, that's going to be a tough one. Not to mention that it would screw him over professionally for the rest of his life - I don't think he'll end his own career to save Scooter. What an embarrassing schtick. Yes, but they’re generally procedural, not factual (i.e., no new evidence can be introduced at an appeal, though a claim that evidence was suppressed can be, and the court might then remand the case back to trial.)

Procedural grounds do not, SFAIK, include “my attorney cried,” unless they’re going for an appeal on the grounds of incompetent defense by reason of mental disability. But with Wells’ reputation, that’s going to be a tough one. Not to mention that it would screw him over professionally for the rest of his life – I don’t think he’ll end his own career to save Scooter.

What an embarrassing schtick.

]]> By: Stogoe http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132733 Stogoe Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:52:22 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132733 Don't there have to be grounds for appeal in trials? Don’t there have to be grounds for appeal in trials?

]]> By: Lesley http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132727 Lesley Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:28:42 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132727 I wonder what his lawyer's going rate is per tear and sob? $600? $700? For that kind of cash, I'd strap raw onions around my neck and let her rip. I wonder what his lawyer’s going rate is per tear and sob? $600? $700? For that kind of cash, I’d strap raw onions around my neck and let her rip.

]]> By: Spokane Moderate http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132726 Spokane Moderate Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:26:29 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132726 Ladies and gentlemen, Ted Wells, in an act... of desparation. Ladies and gentlemen, Ted Wells, in an act… of desparation.

]]> By: ifthethunderdontgetya®© http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html/comment-page-1#comment-132724 ifthethunderdontgetya®© Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:24:23 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/5144.html#comment-132724 Poor widdle scooter...it's no fair! (lieberman whine) Poor widdle scooter…it’s no fair! (lieberman whine)

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