Comments on: New Innovations In WTF?ery http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html Poise! Poise! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:57:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steve T. http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-124119 Steve T. Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:12:39 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-124119 Let's set aside AP and the mosques for a moment and look at the economics point Ace was trying to make. His January 31 post claimed that "the Dow looks on its way to setting a new record" and tried to buttress his claim with a chart, showing one-day trading going from about 12630 to about 12670, with a brief peak above 12680. The trouble was that the chart was clearly labeled February 1, leading Gavin to ponder on whether Ace has a functioning time machine. Problem solved. If you follow Ace's link today, Sunday Feb. 4, you find that the chart has now changed to show trading data from February 2, last Friday. Incidentally, it shows the Dow dropping back to about 12655. Clearly, when inserting the graph he inadvertently embedded a link to a source which <i>automatically updates</i> at the end of each trading day. I'm sure that by tomorrow evening it will be showing February 5 data. And it must be inadvertent, as the graph now displayed directly contradicts the point he was trying to make. No, Ace doesn't have a time machine. What he does have is an inability to master Internet basics. Let’s set aside AP and the mosques for a moment and look at the economics point Ace was trying to make. His January 31 post claimed that “the Dow looks on its way to setting a new record” and tried to buttress his claim with a chart, showing one-day trading going from about 12630 to about 12670, with a brief peak above 12680.

The trouble was that the chart was clearly labeled February 1, leading Gavin to ponder on whether Ace has a functioning time machine. Problem solved. If you follow Ace’s link today, Sunday Feb. 4, you find that the chart has now changed to show trading data from February 2, last Friday. Incidentally, it shows the Dow dropping back to about 12655.

Clearly, when inserting the graph he inadvertently embedded a link to a source which automatically updates at the end of each trading day. I’m sure that by tomorrow evening it will be showing February 5 data. And it must be inadvertent, as the graph now displayed directly contradicts the point he was trying to make.

No, Ace doesn’t have a time machine. What he does have is an inability to master Internet basics.

]]> By: ahem http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123613 ahem Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:54:50 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123613 <i>When you lead off with “Sunni residents claim,� you really should go to the site to see if they’re telling you the truth. </i> "Light plane hits World Trade Center." -- and that was somewhere with a shitload of contemporaneous TV coverage. Patricia's paeons are rather dull, no? When you lead off with “Sunni residents claim,� you really should go to the site to see if they’re telling you the truth.

“Light plane hits World Trade Center.” — and that was somewhere with a shitload of contemporaneous TV coverage.

Patricia’s paeons are rather dull, no?

]]> By: GoatBoy http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123502 GoatBoy Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:14:57 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123502 I like my crow cooked in a pie! _____________ Gamera vs. Zigra I like my crow cooked in a pie!

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Gamera vs. Zigra

]]> By: MV http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123497 MV Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:05:10 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123497 Patterico has ripped this post apart. How do you like your crow cook Gavin? Patterico has ripped this post apart. How do you like your crow cook Gavin?

]]> By: Ernst Blofeld http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123489 Ernst Blofeld Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:43:23 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123489 So, Gavin, where's your retraction and apology to Patterico? He has in fact shown that the AP "destroyed" story ran in many newspapers around the world, contrary to your assertion. You'd think that common deceny and a regard for the facts would dictate that you, personally, acknowledge that you Got It Wrong. http://patterico.com/2007/02/03/5770/ap-and-now-sadly-no-owes-a-correction/ So, Gavin, where’s your retraction and apology to Patterico? He has in fact shown that the AP “destroyed” story ran in many newspapers around the world, contrary to your assertion. You’d think that common deceny and a regard for the facts would dictate that you, personally, acknowledge that you Got It Wrong.

http://patterico.com/2007/02/03/5770/ap-and-now-sadly-no-owes-a-correction/

]]> By: Mrs Panstreppon http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123475 Mrs Panstreppon Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:16:08 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123475 First time visitor. You guys here are a lot funnier than the folks at the TPM Cafe where I usually post. Plus you save me the trouble of having to actually visit a wingnut site to see what the head cases are up to. The last time I visited MS. Malkin's site, she had linked to a story about an Egyptian college student in Tennessee who had charged $2,000 worth of pilot related stuff on his credit card. That story never had "wings" as far as I could tell. Thanks for the laughs! First time visitor. You guys here are a lot funnier than the folks at the TPM Cafe where I usually post. Plus you save me the trouble of having to actually visit a wingnut site to see what the head cases are up to.

The last time I visited MS. Malkin’s site, she had linked to a story about an Egyptian college student in Tennessee who had charged $2,000 worth of pilot related stuff on his credit card. That story never had “wings” as far as I could tell.

Thanks for the laughs!

]]> By: Julie O. http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123474 Julie O. Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:15:17 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123474 <a href="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/julie_o/patterico_trip.jpg" rel="nofollow">BWAHA! U SADLY SUxXxORZ R PWNED 4 EVAR!11</a> BWAHA! U SADLY SUxXxORZ R PWNED 4 EVAR!11

]]> By: g http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123466 g Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:39:38 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123466 <i>But it turned out the information was wrong</i> Wrong? How so? "Shiite militiamen had DESTROYED four Sunni mosques, burned homes and killed many people," - wrong "Shiite militiamen had FIRE BOMBED AND BLOWN UP four Sunni mosques, burned homes and killed many people," - right hairsplitting? not me..... Seriously, folks. It would be different if our media issued corrections about other hearsay reports that turned out to not be true, such as "Tony Snow said....." But it turned out the information was wrong

Wrong? How so?

“Shiite militiamen had DESTROYED four Sunni mosques, burned homes and killed many people,” – wrong

“Shiite militiamen had FIRE BOMBED AND BLOWN UP four Sunni mosques, burned homes and killed many people,” – right

hairsplitting? not me…..

Seriously, folks. It would be different if our media issued corrections about other hearsay reports that turned out to not be true, such as “Tony Snow said…..”

]]> By: Jillian http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123464 Jillian Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:29:14 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123464 Shorter Patterico... <i>waves hands in your face</i> "I'm not touching you!! I'm not touching you!!! "What, I said I wasn't touching you!" Shorter Patterico…

waves hands in your face “I’m not touching you!! I’m not touching you!!!

“What, I said I wasn’t touching you!”

]]> By: g http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123462 g Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:25:27 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123462 Oops. They said 6 people were burned, but it was unconfirmed. Guess that means everything is OK in Iraq. Oops. They said 6 people were burned, but it was unconfirmed. Guess that means everything is OK in Iraq.

]]> By: owlbear1 http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123398 owlbear1 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:53:50 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123398 Or be Press Secretary for a bloodthirsty war-mongering demagogue of a President. Or be Press Secretary for a bloodthirsty war-mongering demagogue of a President.

]]> By: Bradley J. Fikes http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123395 Bradley J. Fikes Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:46:03 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123395 Quoting the residents without fact-checking may be okay when you don't have time to before filing the story. First rough draft of history and all that. But it turned out the information was wrong, which makes the story misleading. Any ethical news organization would not want to mislead readers. So a correction is called for, both to make sure readers who rely on AP are not misinformed, and for AP's own reputation of being factually scrupulous. Those who think that it's okay not to correct a statement that turned out to be untrue, just because they accurately quoted those who gave the misinformation, should look into a career at the Weekly World News. Quoting the residents without fact-checking may be okay when you don’t have time to before filing the story. First rough draft of history and all that. But it turned out the information was wrong, which makes the story misleading. Any ethical news organization would not want to mislead readers. So a correction is called for, both to make sure readers who rely on AP are not misinformed, and for AP’s own reputation of being factually scrupulous.

Those who think that it’s okay not to correct a statement that turned out to be untrue, just because they accurately quoted those who gave the misinformation, should look into a career at the Weekly World News.

]]> By: Sporty http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123394 Sporty Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:41:07 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123394 This post is a masterpiece! Thank you guys for brightening up an already sunny Saturday. Now, who is responsible for the "Not Sporty"?!? This post is a masterpiece! Thank you guys for brightening up an already sunny Saturday.

Now, who is responsible for the “Not Sporty”?!?

]]> By: PaulG http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123391 PaulG Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:38:10 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123391 OK and this is all fine, but you've screwed up the econ data chart. You've got Clinton president for nine years. If anybody on the right can count that is. OK and this is all fine, but you’ve screwed up the econ data chart. You’ve got Clinton president for nine years. If anybody on the right can count that is.

]]> By: Robin Grant http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123363 Robin Grant Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:35:31 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123363 Has everyone on the right learned English using 'Hooked on Phonics'? Sure they know how to read and write but there is zero comprehension. DRJ quotes an AP peice: "BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - <B>Sunni residents</B> in a volatile northwest Baghdad neighborhood <B>claimed Friday that revenge-seeking Shiite militiamen had destroyed four Sunni mosques</B>, burned homes and killed many people, while the Shiite-dominated police force stood by and did nothing." Does that paragraph say that AP is reporting on the destruction of these mosques. Obviously NOT! AP is reporting that Sunni Residents have claimed that these mosques were destroyed. There is nothing wrong with that story and there is no need for AP to issue a correction or apology or anything! Has everyone on the right learned English using ‘Hooked on Phonics’? Sure they know how to read and write but there is zero comprehension.

DRJ quotes an AP peice: “BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) – Sunni residents in a volatile northwest Baghdad neighborhood claimed Friday that revenge-seeking Shiite militiamen had destroyed four Sunni mosques, burned homes and killed many people, while the Shiite-dominated police force stood by and did nothing.”

Does that paragraph say that AP is reporting on the destruction of these mosques.

Obviously NOT!

AP is reporting that Sunni Residents have claimed that these mosques were destroyed. There is nothing wrong with that story and there is no need for AP to issue a correction or apology or anything!

]]> By: Non Nato http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123361 Non Nato Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:29:42 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123361 4 million Iraqi refugees and 600 000 Iraqis killed and all pro-war activists can come up with is quibbling about semantics? Take a look in the mirror, do you like what you see? You should try and preserve your own dignity while you still can. 4 million Iraqi refugees and 600 000 Iraqis killed and all pro-war activists can come up with is quibbling about semantics? Take a look in the mirror, do you like what you see? You should try and preserve your own dignity while you still can.

]]> By: dexter http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123354 dexter Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:56:12 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123354 ...and so, it was the associated press on the grassy knoll <em>all along!</em> …and so, it was the associated press on the grassy knoll all along!

]]> By: Sunni. Residents. http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123353 Sunni. Residents. Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:53:34 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123353 We Sunni residents very sorry we claimed Shiites destroy our houses and mosques and kill our neighbors and families. All big joke, see? Everything great over here. You come over see for yourself, Mister Puerto-Rico. Next week we officially re-naming all neighborhood streets! There's "Rumsfeld Street", "Cheney Street", "Bush Street" and even "No Civil War Street". Things very good here for investors, so you bring lotsa money with you when you come! We Sunni residents very sorry we claimed Shiites destroy our houses and mosques and kill our neighbors and families.

All big joke, see? Everything great over here.

You come over see for yourself, Mister Puerto-Rico.

Next week we officially re-naming all neighborhood streets!

There’s “Rumsfeld Street”, “Cheney Street”, “Bush Street” and even “No Civil War Street”.

Things very good here for investors, so you bring lotsa money with you when you come!

]]> By: Sadly, No! » The Correction to AP Should Give http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123351 Sadly, No! » The Correction to AP Should Give Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:49:17 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123351 [...] It's like a magic trick. Sometimes I think it would be easier to bend a spoon mentally than to make that transformation. « New Innovations In WTF?ery Feb3 [...] [...] It’s like a magic trick. Sometimes I think it would be easier to bend a spoon mentally than to make that transformation. « New Innovations In WTF?ery Feb3 [...]

]]> By: Shat the sheets oh no­™ http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123350 Shat the sheets oh no­™ Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:41:20 +0000 http://sadlyno.com/archives/4983.html#comment-123350 Shat the sheets oh no­™ (rhymes with Patterico) claims that <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/6450422/the_curse_of_dick_cheney/" rel="nofollow">Dick Cheney</a> is actually <a href="http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/books/necro_proj/n_yogsothoth.html" rel="nofollow">the spirit of Yog-Sothoth</a>, who returned to earth on January 30, 1941 and took <a href="http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=C000344" rel="nofollow">possession of a newborn infant</a>. Yog-Sothoth enjoys <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/02/us-torture-victim-demanding-justice/" rel="nofollow">torturing people</a>, <a href="http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/dick-cheney/" rel="nofollow">war</a>, and <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2097365" rel="nofollow">dodging the draft</a>. Shat the sheets oh no­™ (rhymes with Patterico) claims that Dick Cheney is actually the spirit of Yog-Sothoth, who returned to earth on January 30, 1941 and took possession of a newborn infant.

Yog-Sothoth enjoys torturing people, war, and dodging the draft.

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