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		<title>By: kb</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-119008</link>
		<dc:creator>kb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody. Does. This.

When conservatives freak out that a show is promoting a liberal point of view, liberals claim it&#039;s just a show, and if you don&#039;t like it don&#039;t watch it, and then pat themselves on the back for creating art with progressive themes to challenge and educate the public. All this teaches us is that conservatives are capable of using the exact same circular argument.

If you actually step back and look at things objectively, it&#039;s all true.

Is it just a show? Yes.

Does it have broader implications given the resonance with current events? Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody. Does. This.</p>
<p>When conservatives freak out that a show is promoting a liberal point of view, liberals claim it&#8217;s just a show, and if you don&#8217;t like it don&#8217;t watch it, and then pat themselves on the back for creating art with progressive themes to challenge and educate the public. All this teaches us is that conservatives are capable of using the exact same circular argument.</p>
<p>If you actually step back and look at things objectively, it&#8217;s all true.</p>
<p>Is it just a show? Yes.</p>
<p>Does it have broader implications given the resonance with current events? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Levinson</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118711</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 05:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree completely with the above - see also my http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/01/olbermanns-suspension-of-rationality.html

And I&#039;ll be talking about this in my weekly interview about the media on KNX 1070 this Sunday at 7:20am Pacific time - streaming live at http://www.knx1070.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree completely with the above &#8211; see also my <a href="http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/01/olbermanns-suspension-of-rationality.html" rel="nofollow">http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/01/olbermanns-suspension-of-rationality.html</a></p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll be talking about this in my weekly interview about the media on KNX 1070 this Sunday at 7:20am Pacific time &#8211; streaming live at <a href="http://www.knx1070.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.knx1070.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Locutus of Borg</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118281</link>
		<dc:creator>Locutus of Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Wolf 359!</description>
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		<title>By: NobodySpecial</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118205</link>
		<dc:creator>NobodySpecial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, one should always remember fictional bombings to draw inspiration to resist whatever.

Me? I remember Alderaan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, one should always remember fictional bombings to draw inspiration to resist whatever.</p>
<p>Me? I remember Alderaan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118169</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m pretty sure that that&#039;s what motivates crossing guards and bouncers.  

VALENCIIIIAAAAAA!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that that&#8217;s what motivates crossing guards and bouncers.  </p>
<p>VALENCIIIIAAAAAA!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: paul r</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118161</link>
		<dc:creator>paul r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe it was mary matalin who said that &#039;24&#039;&#039;s high ratings proved americans approve of bush&#039;s handling of the WOT. or something like that. or maybe laura ingrahm. hard to keep my idiots straight these days, what with there being so many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe it was mary matalin who said that &#8216;24&#8242;&#8217;s high ratings proved americans approve of bush&#8217;s handling of the WOT. or something like that. or maybe laura ingrahm. hard to keep my idiots straight these days, what with there being so many.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118134</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valencia?  Hmm.  Woulda thought the faux edumacated wingnuts would be all &quot;Remember Roncevaux Pass&quot;!!!  Dirty Muslims killed their d00d Hroudland, fer cryin out loud!

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valencia?  Hmm.  Woulda thought the faux edumacated wingnuts would be all &#8220;Remember Roncevaux Pass&#8221;!!!  Dirty Muslims killed their d00d Hroudland, fer cryin out loud!</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118128</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So I read this, and now Iâ€™m having one of those things where I donâ€™t know if the blinding pain is caused by wingut logic or a brain tumor.&lt;/i&gt;

Reichtard &#039;thinking&#039; is frequently indistinguishable from a brain tumor.  But as long as it still gives you a headache when you read it, the &lt;i&gt;virii wingnutti&lt;/i&gt; have yet to overcome your logic center&#039;s immune system, and you will recover to think sanely again.  That&#039;s why the Wingnut Wurlitzer was invented -- in the hope that forcing prolonged exposure to &lt;i&gt;virii wingnutti&lt;/i&gt; will destroy more Americans&#039; natural bias towards optimism and eventually lead them to the Repubs&#039; zombie army {g}.

Shorter Spruiell:  &lt;i&gt;We&#039;re in ur tv, suxxors, eating ur braaaains!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So I read this, and now Iâ€™m having one of those things where I donâ€™t know if the blinding pain is caused by wingut logic or a brain tumor.</i></p>
<p>Reichtard &#8216;thinking&#8217; is frequently indistinguishable from a brain tumor.  But as long as it still gives you a headache when you read it, the <i>virii wingnutti</i> have yet to overcome your logic center&#8217;s immune system, and you will recover to think sanely again.  That&#8217;s why the Wingnut Wurlitzer was invented &#8212; in the hope that forcing prolonged exposure to <i>virii wingnutti</i> will destroy more Americans&#8217; natural bias towards optimism and eventually lead them to the Repubs&#8217; zombie army {g}.</p>
<p>Shorter Spruiell:  <i>We&#8217;re in ur tv, suxxors, eating ur braaaains!</i></p>
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		<title>By: bobbo</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118125</link>
		<dc:creator>bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I know for sure about the future is that If there is ever another terrorist attack on the U.S., the right wing will be thrilled!  It will prove that they learned a lot from watching the teevee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I know for sure about the future is that If there is ever another terrorist attack on the U.S., the right wing will be thrilled!  It will prove that they learned a lot from watching the teevee!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Swordfish</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118121</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Swordfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NobodySpecial (did he ever get that one right!) said:  &quot;Well, he forgot about the truck full of fertilizer...&quot;

Which of course was the handiwork of a US citizen, a veteran in fact.  Which must be why the Bush Administration, in addition to an indiscriminate religious war against the world, is also waging war on US citizens and veterans.  Makes perfect sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NobodySpecial (did he ever get that one right!) said:  &#8220;Well, he forgot about the truck full of fertilizer&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Which of course was the handiwork of a US citizen, a veteran in fact.  Which must be why the Bush Administration, in addition to an indiscriminate religious war against the world, is also waging war on US citizens and veterans.  Makes perfect sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Socraticsilence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socraticsilence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, honestly how thick do right-wingers have to be to not see that the entirety of last season was basically a serial melo-drama of the Bush Admin. (exaggerated of course) I mean good god, it could have been written by Counterpunch it was so anti-Right Wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, honestly how thick do right-wingers have to be to not see that the entirety of last season was basically a serial melo-drama of the Bush Admin. (exaggerated of course) I mean good god, it could have been written by Counterpunch it was so anti-Right Wing.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Valencia, CA. I thought she meant Spain. Which of course would be Madrid, for terrorism, or Seville, for oranges. So she&#039;s wrong either way. 

Anyway, I can do that too. So, yo everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Osgiliath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Valencia, CA. I thought she meant Spain. Which of course would be Madrid, for terrorism, or Seville, for oranges. So she&#8217;s wrong either way. </p>
<p>Anyway, I can do that too. So, yo everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Osgiliath.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4852.html/comment-page-1#comment-118092</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cause if there&#039;s one thing the terrorists hate, it&#039;s the suburbs.

I also suspect somewhere around mid-season it will be revealed that the main Arab bad guys are being manipulated by someone else, who is also perhaps being manipulated by someone else, who may or may not have their motivations thought up, um, I mean, revealed, in the course of the show.  Both the 2nd and the 5th seasons involved terrorists being supported by the government in order to provoke a war.  I&#039;m a little surprised more wingnuts don&#039;t outwardly support this strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cause if there&#8217;s one thing the terrorists hate, it&#8217;s the suburbs.</p>
<p>I also suspect somewhere around mid-season it will be revealed that the main Arab bad guys are being manipulated by someone else, who is also perhaps being manipulated by someone else, who may or may not have their motivations thought up, um, I mean, revealed, in the course of the show.  Both the 2nd and the 5th seasons involved terrorists being supported by the government in order to provoke a war.  I&#8217;m a little surprised more wingnuts don&#8217;t outwardly support this strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: oudemia</title>
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		<dc:creator>oudemia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valencia, CA got nuked on 24.</description>
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		<title>By: Seanly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seanly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe that&#039;s some kinda code? Like in teh spy movies:

Fedora-wearing guy: &quot;Those oranges look mighy swell today.&quot;
Trenchcoat-wearing guy: &quot;I hear the rain in Spain falls mainly on the train.&quot;
Fedora-wearing guy: &quot;These Valencias make my nuts itch.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia</i></p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s some kinda code? Like in teh spy movies:</p>
<p>Fedora-wearing guy: &#8220;Those oranges look mighy swell today.&#8221;<br />
Trenchcoat-wearing guy: &#8220;I hear the rain in Spain falls mainly on the train.&#8221;<br />
Fedora-wearing guy: &#8220;These Valencias make my nuts itch.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valencia oranges are from Florida. The freeze was in California. What is she talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valencia oranges are from Florida. The freeze was in California. What is she talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody needs to do a show called &quot;10 days&quot;. Takes place about a week and a half after 24. Turns out Jack shot the wrong guy and the initial terror reports were a cover-up. Hilarity ensues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody needs to do a show called &#8220;10 days&#8221;. Takes place about a week and a half after 24. Turns out Jack shot the wrong guy and the initial terror reports were a cover-up. Hilarity ensues.</p>
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		<title>By: islmfaoscist</title>
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		<dc:creator>islmfaoscist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My eye was caught by NR&#039;s giant &quot;stopmelmartinez dot com&quot; banner.

Curious that the wingnutosphere and media aren&#039;t all over this controversial race to be Chief Gooper, isn&#039;t it? Where&#039;s the endless parroting of each side&#039;s indictments of the other candidate like they did with Dean?

This is the flipside of the pre-emptive smearing of all Democratic candidates  -- where Gooper internecine mudslinging gets quietly buried. I say it&#039;s our job to make sure these important voices get heard.

Typical of wingnut net savvy, the banner is a dead link when clicking through but typing it in we learn that Mel is anti-mandatory English, supports Bush on amnesty for illegals and loves him some Harriet Meiers. In other words, clearly too much of a Bush-toadying team player for the job. (Not to mention suspiciously surnamed and brownskinned!)

Also, the Hispanic vote is a myth, and Mel barely won his re-election with 48% voting for his opponent, unlike Bush&#039;s landslide where only 47% voted against him.

Makes me wonder who Mel&#039;s opponent is, and what dirty laundry Mel&#039;s smear team is digging up on him. And where are all the chattering pundits on  his choice of clothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My eye was caught by NR&#8217;s giant &#8220;stopmelmartinez dot com&#8221; banner.</p>
<p>Curious that the wingnutosphere and media aren&#8217;t all over this controversial race to be Chief Gooper, isn&#8217;t it? Where&#8217;s the endless parroting of each side&#8217;s indictments of the other candidate like they did with Dean?</p>
<p>This is the flipside of the pre-emptive smearing of all Democratic candidates  &#8212; where Gooper internecine mudslinging gets quietly buried. I say it&#8217;s our job to make sure these important voices get heard.</p>
<p>Typical of wingnut net savvy, the banner is a dead link when clicking through but typing it in we learn that Mel is anti-mandatory English, supports Bush on amnesty for illegals and loves him some Harriet Meiers. In other words, clearly too much of a Bush-toadying team player for the job. (Not to mention suspiciously surnamed and brownskinned!)</p>
<p>Also, the Hispanic vote is a myth, and Mel barely won his re-election with 48% voting for his opponent, unlike Bush&#8217;s landslide where only 47% voted against him.</p>
<p>Makes me wonder who Mel&#8217;s opponent is, and what dirty laundry Mel&#8217;s smear team is digging up on him. And where are all the chattering pundits on  his choice of clothing?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia.&lt;/i&gt;

Too bad those oranges froze earlier this week.</description>
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<p>Too bad those oranges froze earlier this week.</p>
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		<title>By: oudemia</title>
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		<dc:creator>oudemia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K Lo&#039;s comment really was precious, though:

&lt;blockquote&gt;To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nutter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K Lo&#8217;s comment really was precious, though:</p>
<blockquote><p>To everyone who goes to work today protecting you, me, our families, freedom: Remember Valencia.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nutter.</p>
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