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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4525.html/comment-page-1#comment-105306</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an echo chamber at work here.  If you do a google search and put in the names kenneth stein and President Carter you get a ton of hits that seem to all be keying off the same talking points.  And they are completely dismissive and derogatory to Carter.  Not to be too tin foil hat about it, but  Israel closely follows what is being published in the media and has a large, well financed stable of journalists and writers it can call on to for attack those who are seen as not supportive of Israel&#039;s aims. Some are more overt than others, but what occurs is that the vast scale of writing and uncritical support of Israel creates an alternate reality which does not admit of anything less than sycophancy.  This is what is going on wrt the major part of the criticism of Carter&#039;s book right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an echo chamber at work here.  If you do a google search and put in the names kenneth stein and President Carter you get a ton of hits that seem to all be keying off the same talking points.  And they are completely dismissive and derogatory to Carter.  Not to be too tin foil hat about it, but  Israel closely follows what is being published in the media and has a large, well financed stable of journalists and writers it can call on to for attack those who are seen as not supportive of Israel&#8217;s aims. Some are more overt than others, but what occurs is that the vast scale of writing and uncritical support of Israel creates an alternate reality which does not admit of anything less than sycophancy.  This is what is going on wrt the major part of the criticism of Carter&#8217;s book right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gentlewoman</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4525.html/comment-page-1#comment-104874</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentlewoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, again, you know, the thing with the right-wing assholes, is they really, &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; hate people &lt;i&gt;who actually are what the RWAs pretend to be.&lt;/i&gt;

I mean, here&#039;s President Carter, former Naval Officer, actually &lt;i&gt;educated&lt;/i&gt;, understands important issues and even Science!, practices his Christianity, etc.

How could they not hate him? It&#039;s not what he says or thinks. It&#039;s what he &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;.

Also, and sorta OT, is there a single neocon in the WORLD who is not on wingnut welfare? Every one I know of either has a cushy government job (which s/he has no idea how to perform), sits on the Board of Directors of some crime family disguised as a corporation and does absolutely nothing, or else is &#039;working&#039; for a  conservative &#039;think tank.&#039;

Has any neocon in the recorded history of neconservatism &lt;b&gt;every held a real job?&lt;/b&gt; Anywere? Ever?

I&#039;m serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, again, you know, the thing with the right-wing assholes, is they really, <i>really</i> hate people <i>who actually are what the RWAs pretend to be.</i></p>
<p>I mean, here&#8217;s President Carter, former Naval Officer, actually <i>educated</i>, understands important issues and even Science!, practices his Christianity, etc.</p>
<p>How could they not hate him? It&#8217;s not what he says or thinks. It&#8217;s what he <i>is</i>.</p>
<p>Also, and sorta OT, is there a single neocon in the WORLD who is not on wingnut welfare? Every one I know of either has a cushy government job (which s/he has no idea how to perform), sits on the Board of Directors of some crime family disguised as a corporation and does absolutely nothing, or else is &#8216;working&#8217; for a  conservative &#8216;think tank.&#8217;</p>
<p>Has any neocon in the recorded history of neconservatism <b>every held a real job?</b> Anywere? Ever?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/4525.html/comment-page-1#comment-104753</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Nobel committe are a bunch of limp-wristed panty waists.

Don&#039;t they remember that Alfred Nobel invented dynamite??  They should give out awards in the spirit of his invention.  Like the Nobel &quot;Blowing shit up beyond all possibility of repair&quot; Prize.  Then George W. would finally get the acknowledgement he deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Nobel committe are a bunch of limp-wristed panty waists.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they remember that Alfred Nobel invented dynamite??  They should give out awards in the spirit of his invention.  Like the Nobel &#8220;Blowing shit up beyond all possibility of repair&#8221; Prize.  Then George W. would finally get the acknowledgement he deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: celticgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>celticgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Kristol?  You mean *churchlady voice* SATAN?

I hope that bastard slow roasts on a spit for eternity and then some. 

I don&#039;t stand up and go to bat for any politician, but Jimmy Carter is the closest thing we&#039;ve got to a respected elder statesman in this country.  Which is exactly why the right wing is so quick to throw him under the bus - he&#039;s a *B-horror pic scream* DEMOCRAT.  Nobel Prize anyone?

*crickets*

That&#039;s what I thought....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Kristol?  You mean *churchlady voice* SATAN?</p>
<p>I hope that bastard slow roasts on a spit for eternity and then some. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t stand up and go to bat for any politician, but Jimmy Carter is the closest thing we&#8217;ve got to a respected elder statesman in this country.  Which is exactly why the right wing is so quick to throw him under the bus &#8211; he&#8217;s a *B-horror pic scream* DEMOCRAT.  Nobel Prize anyone?</p>
<p>*crickets*</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I thought&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mdhatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdhatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now where did i leave that whole cloth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now where did i leave that whole cloth?</p>
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		<title>By: Smiling Mortician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smiling Mortician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if you squint just right you can read absolutely nothing in the Peeline piece except the names and still get the point: &lt;i&gt;Professor Kenneth Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Carter . . . Professor Stein . . . Carter . . . &lt;/i&gt;

Yup. Got it. So much for that whole conservative/authoritarian respect-the-office-of-the-presidency thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if you squint just right you can read absolutely nothing in the Peeline piece except the names and still get the point: <i>Professor Kenneth Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Professor Stein . . . Carter . . . Professor Stein . . . Carter . . . </i></p>
<p>Yup. Got it. So much for that whole conservative/authoritarian respect-the-office-of-the-presidency thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinko Punko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinko Punko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are like buttah!  ON A ROLL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are like buttah!  ON A ROLL!</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The funny thing is that approach seems to have rubbed off (heh) on their fervent supporters. Now it is de rigeur at the very least, and business as usualâ€¦&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s a helpful development really.  You can&#039;t advocate position X in the approved style without looking like a dick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The funny thing is that approach seems to have rubbed off (heh) on their fervent supporters. Now it is de rigeur at the very least, and business as usualâ€¦</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a helpful development really.  You can&#8217;t advocate position X in the approved style without looking like a dick.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, Gavin, you make a helluvan interesting point.  The right wing, not just the pundits and policy wonks, but the administration themselves, have not had a single position that they believed they could just come out and be honest about.  Going to war over WMDs, the Energy Bill (we can&#039;t tell you who formulated that policy), the medicare drug benefit, the tax cuts, literally &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; they&#039;ve done has had to be obfuscated, misdirected or downright lied about.  It&#039;s almost as if they KNOW their policies will be bad for all but a tiny percentage of their constituency, and they know exactly how the people would react if they knew the truth.  The funny thing is that approach seems to have rubbed off (heh) on their fervent supporters.  Now it is de rigeur at the very least, and business as usual...

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, Gavin, you make a helluvan interesting point.  The right wing, not just the pundits and policy wonks, but the administration themselves, have not had a single position that they believed they could just come out and be honest about.  Going to war over WMDs, the Energy Bill (we can&#8217;t tell you who formulated that policy), the medicare drug benefit, the tax cuts, literally <i>everything</i> they&#8217;ve done has had to be obfuscated, misdirected or downright lied about.  It&#8217;s almost as if they KNOW their policies will be bad for all but a tiny percentage of their constituency, and they know exactly how the people would react if they knew the truth.  The funny thing is that approach seems to have rubbed off (heh) on their fervent supporters.  Now it is de rigeur at the very least, and business as usual&#8230;</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Ms. Cleo&#039;s locked up, I hear they&#039;re looking for psychics to give people the quality advice they deserve, you know...

I actually looked into working for one of those psychic hotlines a few years back.  It was mostly a lark, but then I found out that by becoming one of Phillip Michael Thomas&#039;s Circle of Psychic Friends, I could make around $18/hr.  And this was about a decade ago.

Never actually did do it - my conscience got the better of me.  But it was pretty tempting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Ms. Cleo&#8217;s locked up, I hear they&#8217;re looking for psychics to give people the quality advice they deserve, you know&#8230;</p>
<p>I actually looked into working for one of those psychic hotlines a few years back.  It was mostly a lark, but then I found out that by becoming one of Phillip Michael Thomas&#8217;s Circle of Psychic Friends, I could make around $18/hr.  And this was about a decade ago.</p>
<p>Never actually did do it &#8211; my conscience got the better of me.  But it was pretty tempting</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pity the fooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pity the fooling.</p>
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